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Now do you see why not lynching one of the two lynch candidates from yesterday is a detriment to village? Getting people to actually talk and analyze the next day is like pulling teeth.
Yeah, but I think the bigger detriment is all the people who aren't contributing to discussion. That says more about the players who aren't looking/willing to look at others than it does about the three of us. I'm not going to vote for someone I don't think should die just because the majority want them to die, that's stupid. If it bothers you that much just start going AM on everyone
 
For the love of....

People, I brought up YK so that we could discuss her and reasons for lynching her or not lynching her, not so that you could place a lazy vote

What is this "some stuff" about YK that you don't like? or Paws?
and yes I'm very tempted to lynch you for this because now it looks like you are a wolf that got in too deep pushing a genny lynch yesterday, were forced to double down today, and just took the first out that you could find.


If you're not feeling the genny lynch because you think we'd lynch a villager, you're okay voting for no reason and potentially lynching another villager?

@bryndiana.jones @MixedAnimals77 @dolphin106258
Now do you see why not lynching one of the two lynch candidates from yesterday is a detriment to village? Getting people to actually talk and analyze the next day is like pulling teeth.
Putting pressure on people isn't "no reason" to vote for someone. I'd like to see more thoughts from YK today and if I like what she says and I'm around, I'll unlynch her. I feel like she pops in and either echoes others' sentiments or doesn't really give many thoughts on what's going on. I wanted to get a vote in and hopefully I'll have time to ISO YK and see if I'm still feeling the same.

Fwiw, I think people are doing an ok job at discussion today- we're all just tired of discussing genny/moose/coop and the bouncer. So why not put some more pressure on someone else while it looks like genny is going down? I feel like you're usually the one doing this and I find it weird that you're questioning me for doing it.
 
We keep blaming genny and moose for where the bandwagon went yesterday, what about BJ and other late voters/switchers??

Although at this point that could be academic. The runaway train mislynch of yet another villager in a village like ours (I don't just mean this game) is hardly unusual for this bunch.

I'm a fan of bandwagon voting as both villager and wolf, and even I've been just plain shocked at the trains lately. It's frankly more disgusting than most porn I watch and that's really saying something.
 
Now do you see why not lynching one of the two lynch candidates from yesterday is a detriment to village? Getting people to actually talk and analyze the next day is like pulling teeth.
I get what you’re saying, but I’m saying since my first game you guys scream at people to think for themselves don’t join a lynch you don’t agree with. If you all feel so strongly about lynching genny then freaking convince us...I’ve already said how I read genny. But if you’re going to act like we can’t discuss others I don’t know what to tell you, I agree that I have feelings about YK but I’m not lynching there today unless she comes on and drops some weird bomb. I don’t know why everyone can’t understand that to me and others the bouncer argument was kind of lost after awhile and the fact that there could be other reasons behind a no kill night besides genny being blocked doesn’t concern anyone? Anyways, my WHOLE reason for not voting genny has been her play, as in posts and the way she has questioned thus far. If I’m wrong, I’m wrong. But that’s how I’m feeling about genny. Sorry that I don’t feel the same as others.
 
For now until I can get back on the thread, it may be an hour or two. It’s cool that coffee had an ability to be able to see results and all, but I’m not seeing unless I scrolled right past it, where they revealed some of it. Except the words of the possible blocking. I don’t know why you’d want to get all that information(it sounded like a one time thing if I’m remembering correctly) except to tell the village unless you have some kind of role restriction. @CoffeeQuestionMark if you can provide any insight for me that I can read when I return that’d be awesome. Or if you’ve already said it just let me know and I can go back and find it.

Lynch coffee
 
For now until I can get back on the thread, it may be an hour or two. It’s cool that coffee had an ability to be able to see results and all, but I’m not seeing unless I scrolled right past it, where they revealed some of it. Except the words of the possible blocking. I don’t know why you’d want to get all that information(it sounded like a one time thing if I’m remembering correctly) except to tell the village unless you have some kind of role restriction. @CoffeeQuestionMark if you can provide any insight for me that I can read when I return that’d be awesome. Or if you’ve already said it just let me know and I can go back and find it.

Lynch coffee

Sure I can provide the rest. All you had to do is ask 🙂
  • Someone tried to kill you
  • You strain to hear something but hear only the crackle of electricity
  • You try to look for someone in the dark, but can't see them
  • You feel paralyzed for a minute before moving
  • You are very tired from your ordeal and consider going home
  • You suddenly remember that you love interpretive dance ((except I actually love the Macarena))
  • You want to help your friends by giving them a little boost
  • You wish you could speak with your dead friends
  • You don't feel much like talking to people, but someone wants to talk to you
  • You no longer feel as daring after taking a risk with that shoddy outlet
 
Sure I can provide the rest. All you had to do is ask 🙂
  • Someone tried to kill you
  • You strain to hear something but hear only the crackle of electricity
  • You try to look for someone in the dark, but can't see them
  • You feel paralyzed for a minute before moving
  • You are very tired from your ordeal and consider going home
  • You suddenly remember that you love interpretive dance ((except I actually love the Macarena))
  • You want to help your friends by giving them a little boost
  • You wish you could speak with your dead friends
  • You don't feel much like talking to people, but someone wants to talk to you
  • You no longer feel as daring after taking a risk with that shoddy outlet
Coffee? did your results say what statement came from where?
 
For now until I can get back on the thread, it may be an hour or two. It’s cool that coffee had an ability to be able to see results and all, but I’m not seeing unless I scrolled right past it, where they revealed some of it. Except the words of the possible blocking. I don’t know why you’d want to get all that information(it sounded like a one time thing if I’m remembering correctly) except to tell the village unless you have some kind of role restriction. @CoffeeQuestionMark if you can provide any insight for me that I can read when I return that’d be awesome. Or if you’ve already said it just let me know and I can go back and find it.

Lynch coffee
If she truly is chaos like some people are speculating, I won't be surprised if she purposely withholds a lot of the information she gained from the village.
 
For the love of....

People, I brought up YK so that we could discuss her and reasons for lynching her or not lynching her, not so that you could place a lazy vote

What is this "some stuff" about YK that you don't like? or Paws?
and yes I'm very tempted to lynch you for this because now it looks like you are a wolf that got in too deep pushing a genny lynch yesterday, were forced to double down today, and just took the first out that you could find.


If you're not feeling the genny lynch because you think we'd lynch a villager, you're okay voting for no reason and potentially lynching another villager?

@bryndiana.jones @MixedAnimals77 @dolphin106258
Now do you see why not lynching one of the two lynch candidates from yesterday is a detriment to village? Getting people to actually talk and analyze the next day is like pulling teeth.
I quoted one but I'm at work and rather busy with moving so I won't be going back more than that. Feel all your feels that's fine 🙂
 
I get what you’re saying, but I’m saying since my first game you guys scream at people to think for themselves don’t join a lynch you don’t agree with. If you all feel so strongly about lynching genny then freaking convince us...I’ve already said how I read genny. But if you’re going to act like we can’t discuss others I don’t know what to tell you, I agree that I have feelings about YK but I’m not lynching there today unless she comes on and drops some weird bomb. I don’t know why everyone can’t understand that to me and others the bouncer argument was kind of lost after awhile and the fact that there could be other reasons behind a no kill night besides genny being blocked doesn’t concern anyone? Anyways, my WHOLE reason for not voting genny has been her play, as in posts and the way she has questioned thus far. If I’m wrong, I’m wrong. But that’s how I’m feeling about genny. Sorry that I don’t feel the same as others.

I really think you and probably most of us missed the point of Mel's post.

He's not trying to get you to vote genny or YK. He's trying to encourage discussion and analysis about more than just the same like 5 players. There's still like 20 of us, for crying out loud.

To be fair I don't really do mechanics either (besides pontificating about what is possible, which is more confusing than anything, but at least is useful as I won't as likely mistakenly clear people based on mechanics (but will indict them for non-existent wolf metas)), and even my post analysis skills are in doubt. Actually, all my skills are in doubt. Point is, I don't really have much to add at this point, but it's because I need more days and posts to have more than feelz like I do.

You don't have to post a reads box or anything silly like that. I do recommend that if there is anything besides reading, dropping your votes and actions that you do, look at the WHOLE list of players at least once a day and ask yourself what you think about each one. If nothing else you won't forget the lurkers.

Skimble is right, just going for inactives nets a lot of villagers. But it also sucks to lose to a pack of all-lurkers.

It's not just a question of inactivity. You want to know why some people are standing out and others aren't, and just don't forget anyone.
 
I will be the first to say we should always lynch chaos, I'm just convinced cof? is chaos at this point. It's possible I missed something prior to officially joining the game today, so feel free to point anything out that I may have missed (I didn't read most of the day when wz was lynched).

Has YK posted much at all? Are people concerned about her because of that? Often lynching people for inactivity results in lynching a villager. Are their other reasons people are concerned about YK?
She said she got a bonus from lynching a wolf and the night cancel / everything redirected to coffee last night screams chaos
 
If she truly is chaos like some people are speculating, I won't be surprised if she purposely withholds a lot of the information she gained from the village.
Ugh oops, guess I should refresh the page before posting lol
 
I will be the first to say we should always lynch chaos, I'm just NOT convinced cof? is chaos at this point. It's possible I missed something prior to officially joining the game today, so feel free to point anything out that I may have missed (I didn't read most of the day when wz was lynched).

Has YK posted much at all? Are people concerned about her because of that? Often lynching people for inactivity results in lynching a villager. Are their other reasons people are concerned about YK?
Sorry, original post should say I'm NOT convinced coffee is chaos
We keep blaming genny and moose for where the bandwagon went yesterday, what about BJ and other late voters/switchers??

Although at this point that could be academic. The runaway train mislynch of yet another villager in a village like ours (I don't just mean this game) is hardly unusual for this bunch.

I'm a fan of bandwagon voting as both villager and wolf, and even I've been just plain shocked at the trains lately. It's frankly more disgusting than most porn I watch and that's really saying something.
Please clarify, are you shocked by bandwagons THIS game, or just recently in other games?

I get what you’re saying, but I’m saying since my first game you guys scream at people to think for themselves don’t join a lynch you don’t agree with. If you all feel so strongly about lynching genny then freaking convince us...I’ve already said how I read genny. But if you’re going to act like we can’t discuss others I don’t know what to tell you, I agree that I have feelings about YK but I’m not lynching there today unless she comes on and drops some weird bomb. I don’t know why everyone can’t understand that to me and others the bouncer argument was kind of lost after awhile and the fact that there could be other reasons behind a no kill night besides genny being blocked doesn’t concern anyone? Anyways, my WHOLE reason for not voting genny has been her play, as in posts and the way she has questioned thus far. If I’m wrong, I’m wrong. But that’s how I’m feeling about genny. Sorry that I don’t feel the same as others.
There doesn't seem to be any evidence for any other reason for the no kill night when genny was blocked. That kind of info can't really be ignored. I agree that you should vote how you feel is most appropriate, no matter what other people think.
 
Also ditto to what Kara said about post analysis over mechanics. Mechanics can sometimes make it 100% a certainty that who you finger as a wolf is a wolf, and a catch like that always feels good. But it almost never wins games.

Also, no, taking up the mantle of AM is not a good move if you don't have an idea of what you're doing.

There is no one way to catch wolves, you have to work on what you're good at while trying to cultivate more than one strategy for identifying them beyond that.
 
Sure I can provide the rest. All you had to do is ask 🙂
  • Someone tried to kill you
  • You strain to hear something but hear only the crackle of electricity
  • You try to look for someone in the dark, but can't see them
  • You feel paralyzed for a minute before moving
  • You are very tired from your ordeal and consider going home
  • You suddenly remember that you love interpretive dance ((except I actually love the Macarena))
  • You want to help your friends by giving them a little boost
  • You wish you could speak with your dead friends
  • You don't feel much like talking to people, but someone wants to talk to you
  • You no longer feel as daring after taking a risk with that shoddy outlet
So literally all actions got redirected to you and you didn't die? Or were all actions canceled and so saw them? Because one is way more sketchy. So you have any idea?
 
Sorry, original post should say I'm NOT convinced coffee is chaos

Please clarify, are you shocked by bandwagons THIS game, or just recently in other games?


There doesn't seem to be any evidence for any other reason for the no kill night when genny was blocked. That kind of info can't really be ignored. I agree that you should vote how you feel is most appropriate, no matter what other people think.

Recently in all games.
 
So literally all actions got redirected to you and you didn't die? Or were all actions canceled and so saw them? Because one is way more sketchy. So you have any idea?
I had a mega lightning rod ability. Was told I would be bullet-proof using it, would not know who did what action but would know every action done
 
Lastly, here's one way to make numbers work for you. If you take the number of players there are and divide by 4, you likely don't have a game that has more than 25% wolves. So this game, I think we started with 25, so like 6 wolves? Nvm WZ. Nvm chaos et etc etc. The point of this exercise, especially early on, is that you should have at least that many wolf suspects, if not more like twice that number.

No, that is not overly paranoid or crazy. Suspicion must be high, just not insanely so. Keep in mind that your list is just a list, and the top 5 might not be anywhere the bottom 5 for wolfiness.

Just as importantly you need to start to trust people or put them in your village pile *but always willing to reassess them.* You might not want to shout to the rooftops about the people on your village list that you keep reassessing. This last bit about villager trust is more subtle but I'll leave it there for now.

TLDR:
Your list of wolf suspects must be [(N)x0.25]x2 long or you're not hunting hard enough.
 
I had a mega lightning rod ability. Was told I would be bullet-proof using it, would not know who did what action but would know every action done
were you also told this would lead to a no kill night? or would cancel lynch? or save a villager?

sorry, it's just starting to feel like there's nothing this one time bonus can't do....
 
I had a mega lightning rod ability. Was told I would be bullet-proof using it, would not know who did what action but would know every action done
this part about bullet proofing.... does this make anyone else think of our daytime vig friend?

I'm not big on mechanics in being affiliation indicative, however, it is worth noting that abilities do tend to have some symmetry and sometimes that is useful.
 
Lightening rods are usually roles that are village. Everyone still think Coffee is chaos?
 
@Animal Midwife what are your thoughts on YK? I was sketched out D1, then when she participates, her points seem ok, but when I iso they seem more "hit and run."

YK's lurky nature is difficult for me to evaluate. The last few games, my village read came from her abilities being visible. May pressure there in the future if nothing changes.
 
DAY 4 Official ~ Lightning Strikes Every Time She Moves ~ Lynch Tally

Coop (2) - AM, Paws
genny (8) - lawper, coffee, mixy, skimble/dvmd, LoTF, mel, tarty, yk
Paws (1) - Kara
Tarty (1) - bryndi
Moose (1) - cray
Yk (2) - coop, allie
Coffee (1) - dolphin

16/19 voting
@genny you are winning the popularity contest

~and everybody's watching her~

Lynch close 10pm EST (3 hours)

~but she's looking at you~
 
Well. Don’t know what to think about Coop and genny today. Hate Coop’s play today, which makes me less interested in lynching genny right now. I was inclined to lynch her yesterday because Coop seemed certain enough to be convincing.

However, if I’m understanding things correctly, Coop claimed that genny was blocked and that resulted in the no-kill? And now coffee is saying the no-kill is the result of her ability? Meh. Even if they happened something simultaneously, something doesn’t add up. Don’t think lynching coffee is the best move today, and I’m null on YK.

Bryndi has sketched me out the most today, besides Coop.... but I’m having a hard time believing that ANY wolf would be as outright sketchy and weird as Coop has been the last few days.
Lynch bryndi
 
Well. Don’t know what to think about Coop and genny today. Hate Coop’s play today, which makes me less interested in lynching genny right now. I was inclined to lynch her yesterday because Coop seemed certain enough to be convincing.

However, if I’m understanding things correctly, Coop claimed that genny was blocked and that resulted in the no-kill? And now coffee is saying the no-kill is the result of her ability? Meh. Even if they happened something simultaneously, something doesn’t add up. Don’t think lynching coffee is the best move today, and I’m null on YK.

Bryndi has sketched me out the most today, besides Coop.... but I’m having a hard time believing that ANY wolf would be as outright sketchy and weird as Coop has been the last few days.
Lynch bryndi
Coop/Genny no kill night is n2, coffee no kill night is n3

This post reads very village to me. Bryndi has also seemed very village to me today, can you point out some post that you think she seemed wolfy?
 
Lightening rods are usually roles that are village. Everyone still think Coffee is chaos?
I like that you're hitting up mafia wiki, but not to make these sorts of assertions to defend/shade a player.

The only way you have a group of super smart people playing this game together week by week for years on end, is for these sorts of ridiculous mechanics to evolve and then for the group here to subvert them.

Some roles by virtue of balance in the game lend themselves to village vs wolf. HOWEVER IF there is a way to take a role and go the other way with it, these mods will do it so many times that you'll mostly stop bothering to think any ability is affiliation indicative.

That's not the same thing saying there's nothing to learn or that WW itself isn't one big game of WIFOM and you shouldn't ask if any one thing is more or less likely.

Just that these sorts of assumptions about abilities is exactly what mods and wolves use to trip up villagers.
 
I like that you're hitting up mafia wiki, but not to make these sorts of assertions to defend/shade a player.

The only way you have a group of super smart people playing this game together week by week for years on end, is for these sorts of ridiculous mechanics to evolve and then for the group here to subvert them.

Some roles by virtue of balance in the game lend themselves to village vs wolf. HOWEVER IF there is a way to take a role and go the other way with it, these mods will do it so many times that you'll mostly stop bothering to think any ability is affiliation indicative.

That's not the same thing saying there's nothing to learn or that WW itself isn't one big game of WIFOM and you shouldn't ask if any one thing is more or less likely.

Just that these sorts of assumptions about abilities is exactly what mods and wolves use to trip up villagers.
Okay well that's why I asked, I have not defended Coffee in the slightest, but wanted feedback from others.
 
Just a personal thing. I always appreciate learning about WW abilities and it's pretty cool you dug up the actual name and confirmed it is a recognizable WW entity and not likely something Coffee made up all the rules about on the fly.

I've just sat through so many chats that went beyond "this is what it's called and how it works" into endless discussions about village vs wolf jailers (omg, deja vu didn't something just like this happen during the noob game?) or some such.

This sorta goes with how it's minimally useful to decide if Coffee is chaos. The only real question that matters, is she village? If you think that makes her a unicorn/wolf/Lucky Charm, that's well and good but she'll have to die regardless.
 
Well. Don’t know what to think about Coop and genny today. Hate Coop’s play today, which makes me less interested in lynching genny right now. I was inclined to lynch her yesterday because Coop seemed certain enough to be convincing
I think Coop still wants me lynched.

Hey @Coopah what do you think of skimble/DVMD?
 
I think Coop still wants me lynched.

Hey @Coopah what do you think of skimble/DVMD?
Eh I honestly don't know. There's not much to go on. And this is the last post I made today because I have to go lift things but basically I want coffee to die. It's unfortunate but you should probably be lynched because I just don't know wtf I'm doing without that info. Sorry.

I know you think skimble/dvmd is sketching so I won't fault that logic but I'd also be ok with lawper or yk. Lots of unknowns.
 
As of right now, I'm still not feeling totally comfortable with the Genny lynch. She may very well be pocketing me but her posts seem like her normal villagery self (and yes, I'm well aware genny is an excellent wolf).

Lynch YK

because I do agree that she's been acting weird especially with the quote Coop acknowledged (soft saying we shouldn't vote for WZ in case it doesn't work).
 
This especially feels wolfy to me

Not wolfy. The vig shot had just failed. There was some anonymous information being used that could not be discussed. I felt weird going off such information we weren’t even sure if the lynch would be successful. I dislike joining in on votes until I find information on my own. Paws was giving me weird feels so I went there... it was D1.

Paging @youngkal cuz she's probably at work and not paying attention. I don't want this turning into a runaway lynch without her getting a chance to see it.

Thank you Mel!

Sure I can provide the rest. All you had to do is ask 🙂
  • Someone tried to kill you
  • You strain to hear something but hear only the crackle of electricity
  • You try to look for someone in the dark, but can't see them
  • You feel paralyzed for a minute before moving
  • You are very tired from your ordeal and consider going home
  • You suddenly remember that you love interpretive dance ((except I actually love the Macarena))
  • You want to help your friends by giving them a little boost
  • You wish you could speak with your dead friends
  • You don't feel much like talking to people, but someone wants to talk to you
  • You no longer feel as daring after taking a risk with that shoddy outlet

Can’t tell if mine are here or not? May have been written differently. Do others see their results here? Trying to feel if we are getting the whole picture here or not

@Animal Midwife what are your thoughts on YK? I was sketched out D1, then when she participates, her points seem ok, but when I iso they seem more "hit and run."

@youngkal I'd love to know who you think you'll be looking into tomorrow, and who you're feeling good about today

I think WZ may have tired to clear someone in her D1 post but I do want to look there a little bit (AM, Coop, Kara, LotF, Mixy, dolphin, Moose and Mel). I know some of these have been somewhat cleared or the others.

I’m skeptical of Tarty as well mainly for just following the crowd but that generally rubs me the wrong way.

I’m skeptical of moose (yes i known i already listed her) but I’m almost always skeptical of her so that makes me feel kind of bad. Idk if I’m ready to push here or not.

As of right now, I'm still not feeling totally comfortable with the Genny lynch. She may very well be pocketing me
Genny pockets well. Also your vote for me use others ideas doesn’t sit well...

I’m currently on Genny based on her votes for SAR 2 days. I’ve seen her push votes multiple times as a wolf.
 
But you can all admit if the WZ lynch didn’t work that would have sucked... js
 
As of right now, I'm still not feeling totally comfortable with the Genny lynch. She may very well be pocketing me but her posts seem like her normal villagery self (and yes, I'm well aware genny is an excellent wolf).

Lynch YK

because I do agree that she's been acting weird especially with the quote Coop acknowledged (soft saying we shouldn't vote for WZ in case it doesn't work).

One post makes me your top lynch choice?
 
Not wolfy. The vig shot had just failed. There was some anonymous information being used that could not be discussed. I felt weird going off such information we weren’t even sure if the lynch would be successful. I dislike joining in on votes until I find information on my own. Paws was giving me weird feels so I went there... it was D1.



Thank you Mel!



Can’t tell if mine are here or not? May have been written differently. Do others see their results here? Trying to feel if we are getting the whole picture here or not



I think WZ may have tired to clear someone in her D1 post but I do want to look there a little bit (AM, Coop, Kara, LotF, Mixy, dolphin, Moose and Mel). I know some of these have been somewhat cleared or the others.

I’m skeptical of Tarty as well mainly for just following the crowd but that generally rubs me the wrong way.

I’m skeptical of moose (yes i known i already listed her) but I’m almost always skeptical of her so that makes me feel kind of bad. Idk if I’m ready to push here or not.


Genny pockets well. Also your vote for me use others ideas doesn’t sit well...

I’m currently on Genny based on her votes for SAR 2 days. I’ve seen her push votes multiple times as a wolf.

Side eye for what could be subtle PR hunting. I'm not sure that saying whose results are whose is going to help village find wolves better than it helps wolves find PRs. Maybe you weren't thinking of that.
 
Side eye for what could be subtle PR hunting. I'm not sure that saying whose results are whose is going to help village find wolves better than it helps wolves find PRs. Maybe you weren't thinking of that.


Not asking to say yeah mine are this... just like look to see if yours are there. Yeah i guess someone could try to use it but there’s already a lot out there so.
 
Also my posts all come at once because I’m at the SO events and he hates when i play this game. Idk if that’s what Paws means by “hit and run” but if it is that’s why.
 
Not wolfy. The vig shot had just failed. There was some anonymous information being used that could not be discussed. I felt weird going off such information we weren’t even sure if the lynch would be successful. I dislike joining in on votes until I find information on my own. Paws was giving me weird feels so I went there... it was D1.



Thank you Mel!



Can’t tell if mine are here or not? May have been written differently. Do others see their results here? Trying to feel if we are getting the whole picture here or not



I think WZ may have tired to clear someone in her D1 post but I do want to look there a little bit (AM, Coop, Kara, LotF, Mixy, dolphin, Moose and Mel). I know some of these have been somewhat cleared or the others.

I’m skeptical of Tarty as well mainly for just following the crowd but that generally rubs me the wrong way.

I’m skeptical of moose (yes i known i already listed her) but I’m almost always skeptical of her so that makes me feel kind of bad. Idk if I’m ready to push here or not.


Genny pockets well. Also your vote for me use others ideas doesn’t sit well...

I’m currently on Genny based on her votes for SAR 2 days. I’ve seen her push votes multiple times as a wolf.

That might be your interpretation of wolf genny's behavior, not quite on point. Wolf pushing a vote is different than just sorta putting the same one out there for consistency's sake. Wolf genny doesn't lead or jump on wagons as a rule. Well, or I should say that so far genny's voting the same person twice is completely null tell for her as far as I'm concerned.

Also, why is the most important homework to do, to go look at who the *wolf* incriminated and cleared? I'm all for studying w vs ? interactions once narrowed down that way, still.
 
Also my posts all come at once because I’m at the SO events and he hates when i play this game. Idk if that’s what Paws means by “hit and run” but if it is that’s why.
sounds like you need to tell him where the anonymous internet strangers like myself think the priorities really lie
 
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