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I've been searching around both the pre-vet and vet forums trying to find info on illinois. Any thread that deals with this either has one or two uninformative posts or ones that involve more schools seem to skip over illinois.

In personal experience I have heard one vet say something negative about UIUC, but otherwise people seem to know nothing about it and noone who went/goes there. I was kind of curious what its known for, what are its strengths, weaknesses, etc, anything anyone could tell me. I was impressed by it when I went for my interview, but its the only school I have visited so I can't really compare.

What are your feelings and thoughts? Thanks!

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I'm an undergrad at Illinois, you can PM me if you have questions about the area or the University in general. I've worked with scientists and students pretty regularly over my years here, everyone is always very kind and motivated and very happy to volunteer their time. I can't really speak to what life is like for veterinary students down on the vet campus but hopefully someone else will step up to that.
 
I'm not exactly sure what you're looking for in strengths and weaknesses. You were probably at the information sessions during interview day.

The uiuc cvm website itself has tons of information. I can tell you about the theriogenology and toxicology programs.
Envirovet is run there. That's the program where vet students go on trips to other countries. The ASPCA Animal Poison Control Center started out as a program at UIUC CVM. Lot's of wild animals get their teeth done there.

There is a lot of interdisciplinary work being done. I would recommend that you look at the research section of the site (even if you're not interested in that sort of thing) and the faculty biosketches to see what the professors are doing.

You could call and ask, PM one of the people that went to Illinois undergrad, or you could wait for an actual vet student at Illinois to answer your post.
 
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I am currently a first year at UIUC so I should hopefully be able to answer most questions you may have, or I will at least do my best!!

I could ramble on for pages on information about the school so feel free to PM me with any specific questions or even general inquiries you have and I will see if I can help!
 
I am currently a first year at UIUC so I should hopefully be able to answer most questions you may have, or I will at least do my best!!

I could ramble on for pages on information about the school so feel free to PM me with any specific questions or even general inquiries you have and I will see if I can help!

I would actually be interested in anything you guys have to say, so if it's not too personal perhaps you could post your questions/answers on the board here and not PM. I'm sure there are others too.

Just for my own $0.02, I actually was expected very little on UI based mainly what I read on this forum, but was actually surprised by what I saw there and was impressed.
 
Just for my own $0.02, I actually was expected very little on UI based mainly what I read on this forum, but was actually surprised by what I saw there and was impressed.

This is exactly how I feel which is why I started this thread. Based on reactions from people I spoke to and comments on here, I either heard very little and just was prepared to be dissappointed by the school. However, it seems very technologically advanced and I was impressed by the planned changes in curriculum.

I appreciate you guys offering for PM, and Truth some of what you said was helpful, but since clearly Im not the only one I'll start it off with some general questions and people can add their own as hopefully those get answered (and I'll take you guys up on the pms if i need it).

ok so here goes.
- Is the school strong in LA? Wildlife? Oncology? (we say every school has a strength but I've never heard what UIUC's is?
- I know the school does not have an in-house cardiologist or neurologist, is this a detriment to the curriculum, rotations? Would this make UIUC a bad choice for someone who might want to pursue SA specialty?
- What is its reputation or how do you see the school in comparison to other schools?
- What is the school community like? Professors approachable, students friendly, competitive?

ok as this post is getting long ill stop there. Hopefully this will foster some answers and further discussion!
 
- Is the school strong in LA? Wildlife? Oncology? (we say every school has a strength but I've never heard what UIUC's is?

The Dean's emphasis is on research. That is why you don't hear whether we are LA or SA.

The history of the deans of the college might also answer the questions you have, it shows the progression of the college over the course of time.

I think you heard about the tracks in the information session.
Here's the link to the curriculum.

UIUC CVM research areas
This is what the school is focusing on.(Taken directly from the website with a few observations from me):
Infectious Diseases - They are focusing more on Public health and zoonotic diseases. Dr. Johnson ( she can be found in the faculty biosketches here)is doing a major project on bird flu, right now.
Ecosystem health - multidisciplinary (multiple departments all over campus collaborate) Envirovet is considered to be in this area along with the zoologic pathology program.
orthopedic biology - I mentioned the horse sized MRI and I'm sure it was mentioned on the tours. I honetly don't know much about orthopedics, but there are links on the research area page and
Reproductive Biology - also multidisciplinary. If you go to the department of veterinary boisciences section, you will see a picture of Dr. Yao. He's interested sexual differentiation and what triggers it. He found a gene that regulates epididymal growth. or Dr. Hofmann. She's doing stem cell research on spermatagonium.
Toxicology - The school is very invested in toxicology. It has to do with the close relationship with the poison control center and the cross over research in reproduction. You can find more information in the department of veterinary biosciences site.
Oncology - There are award winners in neoplasm investigation as well. There was a news release about osteosarcoma somewhere in the news section of the home page.
Also starting research in:
stem cell and regenerative biology - see Dr. Hofmann above.
host-microbe interaction
and environmental sustainability

As far as large or small animal: There are more instructors in the SA side, but the associate dean for academic and student affairs is an equine guy. Which doesn't answer the question. I know. I can only speak of my experience. I was in the LA track (with a decided reproduction slant:)) for undergrad, and we were constantly getting new, cutting edge information. We had classes where we went out to the various facilities. I have personally been to the dairy, the standardbred stud, the beef cattle/sheep facility (Shout out to Mr. Cobb.), the poultry farm, and the swine farm.

- I know the school does not have an in-house cardiologist or neurologist, is this a detriment to the curriculum, rotations? Would this make UIUC a bad choice for someone who might want to pursue SA specialty?

As far as cardiology is concerned. Illinois does not have an internship or residency in cardiology. There are 3 courses in both cardiology and neurology with one rotation for each( cardiology rotation is off of campus).

I think it depends on the specialty of interest. We are strong in oncology, opthamology,and dermatology. Reproduction and toxicology have their foothold in several departments. Please, see the internships and residencies page for more.
- What is its reputation or how do you see the school in comparison to other schools?
I have been to four symposia, and the UIUC contingent is usually one of the largest ones. We're talking top three every year. I haven't heard anything good or bad about the school, but I was from Illinois, and everyone knew it. I have noticed that there seemed to be a more intense atmosphere at other places I have visited. I go by awards, honors, and papers I can find on pubmed, and I don't have any complaints. However, I am interested in toxicology and reproductive biology.
- What is the school community like? Professors approachable, students friendly, competitive?
I have never heard anything about competitiveness inside CVM. I've only heard about teamwork and helping each other through exams, and this has been year after year of talking to people. I can't speak on the professors at CVM, though all of the dealings I've had with them ( looking for work, asking about their research, and the like) has been positive.

It's the midwest. We're a nice, polite, easy going lot. We'll help you out if you look like you need help. We'll talk to you on the street. If you look hungry, we'll feed you. We will wave at you as you pass by, even if we don't know you. However, we're the type of people that will not tell you if you have something in your teeth, unless we know you for a while. That's how we were raised.:D

We have theatre troupes, concerts, movie theatres. If we're not, we should be the eat out capitol of the united states, because we have all sorts of sit down, carry out, and fast food places. We have Strawberry Fields (They have really good vegan sandwiches at the cafe) for whole and organic foods. We have a dog park in the east( working on another one in the west). There is an active running community here. A lot of people ride their bikes to work and class all year round.
Are there aspects of the community that you want to know about? I've been here for over 14 years, but I'm not a townie yet.:rolleyes:
 
Does anyone know what the story is with the new curriculum? The afternoon presentation started really early, so I missed a big chunk of what they had to say. Did they give any indication of what direction they were heading / what types of changes they wanted to make? Thanks!
 
I might be mistaken, but I think Dr. Foreman said something about starting the tracking earlier. That would be awesome! :)
 
Truth - thank you so much! That information is so helpful and exactly along the lines of what I was looking for. Its great to hear someones perspective from the almost inside (hahaha!)! I could search on the pages forever (and in fact I have reviewed the biosketches) but I don't always feel you get the best impression from a webpage - so its nice to have a personal review.

Its helpful to hear about the programs strengths and that they are strong in certain SA specialites even though they might not have internships or residencies in others. I just couldnt get/find an answer like that anywhere else! Also, the unique aspects such as envirovet and some of their research! Thanks again!

As for the curriculum change. I was under the impression from talking to Mary Kelm that it was getting into the clinic a semester earlier (i.e. spring junior year?). Idk if that would correlate specifically with tracking earlier.

I also know she said at some point they want to get first years in to the clinic right away, then send them back into the classroom. But thats not us...:(
 
Let's see what I can add to what was said above...

As for the strengths you were curious about - the school does tend to focus more on the SA side but our LA clinical faculty are excellent and they have a caseload of roughly 5,000/year. I think oncology was mentioned already and as for wildlife we have a Wildlife Medical Clinic on site that is operated by student volunteers. Students enter a working 'team' and rotate shifts and on call time where you keep a pager and get called in for emergencies or new patients who are brought in. They get to do everything from x-rays and bandaging to blood draws and even blood transfusions on birds (thanks to generous donations from our resident raptors :) ) and attend weekly rounds where students are asked to present cases they worked on.
As far as strengths, Illinois is a very research-oriented school which is probably one reason it doesn't get talked about as frequently as some others.

As for the question on cardio and neuro - very good question. There are no true in house cardio specialists but we do have two doctors from Purdue who see appointments in the SAC and work with out internal medicine staff for care when they are not around. There is also a lot of referral to Purdue for more serious cases so I am sure any externship/clinical time at Purdue could be arranged. I personally don't think the curriculum suffers from this. Our cardio professor has been teaching the subject for a very long time (let's just say he taught cardio to a vet I worked for and she graduated in 1981!) and our neuro professor is one of those guys who very obviously loves what he teaches (maybe a bit too much!) and it doesn't hurt that he was mentored by the guy who wrote a couple of the textbooks :)

As for the community it is a very strong, close-knit place. Professors and clinical staff are very easily approached and easy to get to know. They make it clear from day one that if they did not want you here they would not have offered you a position. They will do whatever they need to do to help you succeed. Obviously the dynamic between every class is going to be a little different just because every group has different personalities - but I can tell you a little bit about my class in particular. I may not necessarily know every individual in the class (we are 117 after all!) but I would not hesitate to ask any one of them for help if I needed it. It is not unusual at all for one person or a group of people to throw a party or plan an outing and invite the entire class. As far as competitiveness - at least in my class it really doesn't exist. For example: we have an anatomy palpation quiz this Friday and an exam/practical on Monday. When I woke up Sunday morning I had 6 different e-mails from people in my class offering everyone study guides they had made to study from and helpful websites they had found.

Wow, this is getting really long...hope you are getting at least something helpful out of this...

I'll end this one on what I know about the new curriculum, which is very little but I will tell you what I got from Mary. She said they are going to start integrating students into the clinics almost immediately, getting hands dirty and getting to know how things are run from the get go so it is less of a shock come 3rd year. I think they are also wanting to extend clinical rotations but I am not sure by how much. Currently 3rd years end their last semester in April and start clinical rotation immediately - getting no summer break but I think they are trying somehow to get even longer in clinics.
 
Thank you! I feel like I am starting to sound like a broken record but I really appreciate you guys giving more information.

Mavtwi it was great to hear a students perspective and some of that information is exactly the kind of info I was looking for! I don't know why Illinois flys under the radar, but I just ran into walls trying to find information!

One more question that I can think of now. I may have to call Illinois itself to ask this but maybe someone can tell me. Any idea what most kids do and what the internship matching percentages look like? With so much research and that being a factor for getting an internship, I would be curious to see how many people go on to pursue an internship.

Right now I think i want to pursue an internship and then either some SA specialty or Wildlife/Zoo - thought that could change 100 times in the next 4+ years!. While you really can go from any school to do anything, its always great to know more about how a school looks for an area you are interested in!

Thanks again guys for all your insight!
 
Can anybody comment on the small animal hospital? When I was there we didn't get to tour it.
 
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