2009-2010 University of Arizona Application Thread

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MadeInReydn said:
I think 12 is right. This is some info I found tonight, it's going to be a massive post, here goes:

Entering Fall 2007:

Took 53 or 54 off WL

Tucson took off:
Around 4/28: 10
Around 5/15: 38
By matriculation day: 53-54

Entering Fall 2008:

WL Notifications sent 3/12 for both campuses (odd – hopefully that’s a sign we’ll reach 65 or more, like 2008)

Tucson: 106 positions on WL
PHX tiers: About 51 (may be more - recall error) total applicants in 3 tiers, around 19 in each; someone was told by Tara that 40 came off; apparently there is some fluidity in the tiers, and a student from 3rd can get pulled before someone on the 2nd, which happened.

Numbers off Tucson:
3/24 (12 days): 3
3/25 (13 days): 5
4/04 (3 ½ weeks): 12
4/07 (4 weeks): 13
4/22 (6 weeks): 18
4/28 (6 ½ weeks): 20
5/01 (7 weeks): 25
5/08 (8 weeks): 32
5/12 (8 ½ weeks): 33
5/15 (9 weeks): 39
5/19 (9 ½ weeks): 42
5/23 (10 ½ weeks): 48
5/27 (11 weeks): 49
6/03 (12 weeks): 52
6/05 (12 weeks): 57
6/11 (13 weeks): 59
7/28 (19 ½ weeks): 63
Matriculation day: 65

Entering Fall 2009:

WL Notifications sent 3/11 for Tucson, 3/23 for PHX
No idea of WL size?

3/18 (7 days): 6
3/25 (2 weeks): 10
3/30 (2 ½ weeks): 11
4/01 (3 weeks): 13
4/08 (4 weeks): 15
4/15 (5 weeks): 17
4/27 (6 ½ weeks): 19
5/04 (7 ½ weeks): 23
5/11 (8 ½ weeks): 25
5/15 (9 weeks): 32
5/18 (9 ½ weeks): 37
5/21 (10 weeks): 40
5/29 (11 weeks): 44
6/05 (12 ½ weeks): 47
7/08 (17 weeks): 49
7/28 (19 ½ weeks): 51
Matriculation day: 55

Don’t know if this is consoling at all, but we had less rejections among SDNers than 2009.

nonlocality from last year had some mad math skills, and created the following graphs. I think it would be good to use them to at least plot our position in comparison to last year. Does anyone here have some skills in tracking trends?

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=12971&d=1244079518

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=12984&d=1244304782
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That took a little work. Looking at nonlocality's graphs, 2009 was above 2008's trend until 25 days before May 15th, when it flattened. I think that is an important period to watch close.

Thoughts from anyone else?
 
Let's not forget to keep this puppy updated:

14) SmokeyGray - IS; 1 other acceptance, 2 other waitlists, waiting on 3 more
16) Ilovewater - IS;
34) Indiana06 - OOS; Accepted @ Phx
42) ACE28 - IS
46) ehandber - IS; WLed @ PHX; 0 other acceptances/applications.
61) MadeInReydn - IS; WLed @ PHX; 1 other acceptance (not my top choice)
62) paiger - IS; 0 other acceptances (2 other waitlists)
85) sweetlife - IS ; 0 other acceptances
89) aztri - IS
93) countryboydoc - IS
121) sunny1
123) BearDownAZ - IS; 0 other acceptances (1 waitlist, 1 in TBD)
 
Some other quick observations:

- The difference between the two years was double what it was on May 15th (39 for 2008 - 32 for 2009 =5, 5x2=10 more for 2008).

- The May 15th numbers: 39=60% of final 65; 32=58% of final 55. If that holds true, for paiger and I, we need a May 15th number of 36-37, assuming it represents 59% of those who will be pulled from the WL. sweetlife and aztri need 49+ on May 15th; ehandber and ACE28 need around 27 (got it easy).

- For 2008 and 2009, as of 6/05 the list ended up 8 higher (47 to 55, 57 to 65). The 47 of 55 for 2009 represented 85% of the numbers pulled, and the 57 of 65 represented 88% pulled. paiger and I need a June 5th number of 53, assuming the lower 85%. sweetlife and aztri need 70+ on June 5th; ehandber and ACE28 need around 39 (again, easy).

- Of course, everything will vary from year to year, and it can get thrown off b/c of the OOS applicants. Regardless, I think the May 15th number will give us a good clue as to the final number pulled.

Shall we take turns calling in different weeks to check on movement (starting in 2-3 of weeks)?

PS I can't help but feel I'm trying to relieve some of the hellish unknowns for myself (well, I know I am), and for you guys. 🙂 I REALLY hate being on the edge - I feel your pain ehandber.
 
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14) SmokeyGray - IS; 1 other acceptance, 2 other waitlists, waiting on 3 more
16) Ilovewater - IS; 3 other acceptances, waiting on 5
34) Indiana06 - OOS; Accepted @ Phx
42) ACE28 - IS
46) ehandber - IS; WLed @ PHX; 0 other acceptances/applications.
61) MadeInReydn - IS; WLed @ PHX; 1 other acceptance (not my top choice)
62) paiger - IS; 0 other acceptances (2 other waitlists)
85) sweetlife - IS ; 0 other acceptances
89) aztri - IS
93) countryboydoc - IS
121) sunny1
123) BearDownAZ - IS; 0 other acceptances (1 waitlist, 1 in TBD)
 
MadeInReydn said:
Let's not forget to keep this puppy updated:

14) SmokeyGray - IS; 1 other acceptance, 2 other waitlists, waiting on 3 more
16) Ilovewater - IS;
34) Indiana06 - OOS; Accepted @ Phx
42) ACE28 - IS
46) ehandber - IS; WLed @ PHX; 0 other acceptances/applications.
61) MadeInReydn - IS; WLed @ PHX; 1 other acceptance (not my top choice)
62) paiger - IS; 0 other acceptances (2 other waitlists)
85) sweetlife - IS ; 0 other acceptances
89) aztri - IS
93) countryboydoc - IS
121) sunny1
123) BearDownAZ - IS; 0 other acceptances (1 waitlist, 1 in TBD)
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These sort of lists are great to keep everything organized for this year AND next year, so let's try to keep it going for every one's sake.

MadeInReydn said:
Some other quick observations:

- The difference between the two years was double what it was on May 15th (39 for 2008 - 32 for 2009 =5, 5x2=10 more for 2008).

- The May 15th numbers: 39=60% of final 65; 32=58% of final 55. If that holds true, for paiger and I, we need a May 15th number of 36-37, assuming it represents 59% of those who will be pulled from the WL. sweetlife and aztri need 49+ on May 15th; ehandber and ACE28 need around 27 (got it easy).

- For 2008 and 2009, as of 6/05 the list ended up 8 higher (47 to 55, 57 to 65). The 47 of 55 for 2009 represented 85% of the numbers pulled, and the 57 of 65 represented 88% pulled. paiger and I need a June 5th number of 53, assuming the lower 85%. sweetlife and aztri need 70+ on June 5th; ehandber and ACE28 need around 39 (again, easy).

- Of course, everything will vary from year to year, and it can get thrown off b/c of the OOS applicants. Regardless, I think the May 15th number will give us a good clue as to the final number pulled.

Shall we take turns calling in different weeks to check on movement (starting in 2-3 of weeks)?

PS I can't help but feel I'm trying to relieve some of the hellish unknowns for myself (well, I know I am), and for you guys. 🙂 I REALLY hate being on the edge - I feel your pain ehandber.
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I think you're being a big help to everyone, plus if it helps you too theneven better. Where your at on the WL I think you have a good shot at getting in. Your helpfulness thus far already makes me want you as a classmate...
 
Well, it looks like Phoenix has decided to put us all on ice indefinitely. I can't imagine they'd be working over the weekend or on Spring Break.

You know it's been a long day when a root canal was the LEAST painful part of it. At least there's drugs for that. And to make it worse, Phoenix is refusing to flip the switch and take my hope off life support.

It's looking like my wife may get a job with Lockheed in Texas. So for now my plan is to take a year off, retake the MCAT, retake a few classes to raise my GPA, possibly find some more clinical experiences, and establish residency in Texas so I can get in to one of their 9 essentially exclusively in-state medical schools.

I'm really proud so many of us have gotten accepted or good WL spots. For whatever strange cosmic reason, it seems my lot in life has been to struggle to get in to medical school. But when I do get in, and I will, I am gonna kick some major @**. Then I am gonna come back and practice in Arizona and find some way to make UofA wish they hadn't screwed me over year after year.
 
I feel just like ehandber (hope I spelled that correctly!)...I am right in the same area of the Tucson waitlist as you and feel the same amount of uncertainty haha!
 
MedHopeful777 said:
I feel just like ehandber (hope I spelled that correctly!)...I am right in the same area of the Tucson waitlist as you and feel the same amount of uncertainty haha!
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Where are you exactly? Could you jot yourself in below? Thanks! Plus, I'd bet money that you'll get in.

14) SmokeyGray - IS; 1 other acceptance, 2 other waitlists, waiting on 3 more
16) Ilovewater - IS; 3 other acceptances, waiting on 5
34) Indiana06 - OOS; Accepted @ Phx
42) ACE28 - IS
46) ehandber - IS; WLed @ PHX; 0 other acceptances/applications.
61) MadeInReydn - IS; WLed @ PHX; 1 other acceptance (not my top choice)
62) paiger - IS; 0 other acceptances (2 other waitlists)
85) sweetlife - IS ; 0 other acceptances
89) aztri - IS
93) countryboydoc - IS
121) sunny1
123) BearDownAZ - IS; 0 other acceptances (1 waitlist, 1 in TBD)
 
mathlink said:
It's looking like my wife may get a job with Lockheed in Texas. So for now my plan is to take a year off, retake the MCAT, retake a few classes to raise my GPA, possibly find some more clinical experiences, and establish residency in Texas so I can get in to one of their 9 essentially exclusively in-state medical schools.
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I honestly wish I was from Texas for that reason! I almost applied there, but didn't. With 90% of the spots in 8 or 9 schools going to residents, you'll be in for sure.
 
lrkoehle said:
I think you're being a big help to everyone, plus if it helps you too theneven better. Where your at on the WL I think you have a good shot at getting in. Your helpfulness thus far already makes me want you as a classmate...
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So I forget, where are you accepted?
 
Wow!! MadeInReydn is a badass. Thanks so much for compiling all those numbers man. That really did help me. It is nice to see all the stats laid out like that. I looked at them all and I think you did a great job, I don't have anything that I need to add to that. It is disheartening to see that there is such a good chance I will be waiting until the end of May, but on the plus side at least I am on the lower end of the "should be nervous" zone.

If anyone is curious, while I was thinking about it last night I decided that I think Tucson is my new mental front-runner for if it comes to an inter-campus decision. I think I would learn more in the classes because of the environment (library, many other students, etc).

And, for those of you who are accepted to multiple schools I can only imagine how great that must feel. If I end up re-applying I guess I have learned my lesson and know that I should apply to more schools than just UA! :laugh:

Thanks again MIR, you did an awesome job. And, I will probably continue checking/posting here throughout break. Especially as I go through the emotional rollercoaster that is waiting for admission.
 
ehandber said:
Wow!! MadeInReydn is a badass. Thanks so much for compiling all those numbers man. That really did help me. It is nice to see all the stats laid out like that. I looked at them all and I think you did a great job, I don't have anything that I need to add to that. It is disheartening to see that there is such a good chance I will be waiting until the end of May, but on the plus side at least I am on the lower end of the "should be nervous" zone.

If anyone is curious, while I was thinking about it last night I decided that I think Tucson is my new mental front-runner for if it comes to an inter-campus decision. I think I would learn more in the classes because of the environment (library, many other students, etc).
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Hey, thanks for the info - I'll gladly take your PHX spot! I appreciate the compliment too, and I will add that maybe "nervous nut" also applies :laugh:

Did we ever find out for sure if PHX's WL was split into IS/OOS, or all the same? If not, could chagrama or someone else find out? Thanks! Hopefully in a about a week we get posts about acceptances =)
 
MadeInReydn said:
Hey, thanks for the info - I'll gladly take your PHX spot! I appreciate the compliment too, and I will add that maybe "nervous nut" also applies :laugh:

Did we ever find out for sure if PHX's WL was split into IS/OOS, or all the same? If not, could chagrama or someone else find out? Thanks! Hopefully in a about a week we get posts about acceptances =)
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I'm pretty sure its all the same.
Speaking of, I'm an OOS on the waitlist as well. I can't open the zip file with the graph 🙁 I wanna know my odds! 😎
 
MadeInReydn said:
So I forget, where are you accepted?
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Well I was for some reason blessed with a few different acceptances, but I am currently only holding on to my Tucson acceptance after withdrawing from the others (you can check out my MDapps for more details if you want). I am hoping to be like MadEvans but for Tucson next year.

ehandber said:
If anyone is curious, while I was thinking about it last night I decided that I think Tucson is my new mental front-runner for if it comes to an inter-campus decision.
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👍 Good decision, very good decision (take THAT MadEvans! :meanie:).

ehandber said:
And, for those of you who are accepted to multiple schools I can only imagine how great that must feel. If I end up re-applying I guess I have learned my lesson and know that I should apply to more schools than just UA! :laugh:
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That a big risk, big reward scenario only applying to one school, but if it works out man I'll be jealous of you. All the money wasted on going to interviews you saved. In the end each of us can only attend one school, so if you end up where you want to be, then no reason to waste time with other schools. If you do end up reapplying might I suggest you try Mayo? If I remember correctly, you were an actor, right? Mayo eats that **** up. I'd do it, even though winters would be cold as hell.
 
lrkoehle said:
If you do end up reapplying might I suggest you try Mayo? If I remember correctly, you were an actor, right? Mayo eats that **** up. I'd do it, even though winters would be cold as hell.
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I hope that I don't have to re-apply. But, going to Mayo would be an amazing opportunity so you bet your ass I will be applying there! You're right, I was an actor, and a stand-up comedian. When I was applying I actually thought that someone would care about that, but nobody even asked about it. Neither of the interviewers had any curiosity about what Hollywood is like apparently.

Oh well! Hoooopefully I will get to go to school anyway.
 
MadeInReydn said:
Where are you exactly? Could you jot yourself in below? Thanks! Plus, I'd bet money that you'll get in.

14) SmokeyGray - IS; 1 other acceptance, 2 other waitlists, waiting on 3 more
16) Ilovewater - IS; 3 other acceptances, waiting on 5
34) Indiana06 - OOS; Accepted @ Phx
42) ACE28 - IS
46) ehandber - IS; WLed @ PHX; 0 other acceptances/applications.
61) MadeInReydn - IS; WLed @ PHX; 1 other acceptance (not my top choice)
62) paiger - IS; 0 other acceptances (2 other waitlists)
85) sweetlife - IS ; 0 other acceptances
89) aztri - IS
93) countryboydoc - IS
121) sunny1
123) BearDownAZ - IS; 0 other acceptances (1 waitlist, 1 in TBD)
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I'm 49) MedHopeful777 - IS, 0 other waitlists, 0 other acceptances, small pooled at Rosalind Franklin, still waiting on whatever Phoenix has to say
 
I'm guessing you're in at Tucson, MedHopeful777 - you'll probably get a call early June, unless things are looking good this year (OH PLEASE OH PLEASE!) and you'll get a call second half of May.

14) SmokeyGray - IS; 1 other acceptance, 2 other waitlists, waiting on 3 more
16) Ilovewater - IS; 3 other acceptances, waiting on 5
34) Indiana06 - OOS; Accepted @ Phx
42) ACE28 - IS
46) ehandber - IS; WLed @ PHX; 0 other acceptances/applications
49) MedHopeful777 - IS, 0 other waitlists, 0 other acceptances, small pooled at Rosalind Franklin, still waiting on whatever Phoenix has to say
61) MadeInReydn - IS; WLed @ PHX; 1 other acceptance (not my top choice)
62) paiger - IS; 0 other acceptances (2 other waitlists)
85) sweetlife - IS ; 0 other acceptances
89) aztri - IS
93) countryboydoc - IS
121) sunny1
123) BearDownAZ - IS; 0 other acceptances (1 waitlist, 1 in TBD)
 
How many more times do you think OOSers are likely to not accept UACOM invitations? Does anyone know if the rolling admissions numbers were different this year from last?

In past years I think they pulled about 55-60% of the total WL size (for 2008, 65 of 106ish). 62 is 50% of 125, 75 is 60% of 125 . . .
 
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Congrat to all the WL's, I know how it feels to be on the brink of getting it but not in yet.

I would be glad to setup a 2010 UofA Tucson plot for you folks and do the first 5-6 points.

Then I can turn it over to someone who has some Excel skills.

Any volunteers?

nonlocality
 
nonlocality said:
Congrat to all the WL's, I know how it feels to be on the brink of getting it but not in yet.

I would be glad to setup a 2010 UofA Tucson plot for you folks and do the first 5-6 points.

Then I can turn it over to someone who has some Excel skills.

Any volunteers?

nonlocality
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nonlocality! You are the math MAN! I'll volunteer, unless there's someone else who'd like to do it. Thanks!

Curious, what are your thoughts on proportions of: IS/OOS students already accepted who turn down UACOM offers, IS/OOS students on WL who turn down offers?
 
When considering "OOS", how do you guys have data from previous years? I thought this was the first year that UACOM is considering OOS for up to 25% of the incoming class.

Although I understand in the past, UACOM did consider applicants from certain states for admittance, like Montana and Alaska etc (WICHE I think it was called). If those were the sole "OOS" applicants from previous cycles, then I don't think it has much validity when considering probabilities for this year.
 
DancinSarah said:
When considering "OOS", how do you guys have data from previous years? I thought this was the first year that UACOM is considering OOS for up to 25% of the incoming class.

Although I understand in the past, UACOM did consider applicants from certain states for admittance, like Montana and Alaska etc (WICHE I think it was called). If those were the sole "OOS" applicants from previous cycles, then I don't think it has much validity when considering probabilities for this year.
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We don't have data unfortunately - I was just assuming they would be twice as likely to turn down offers. Do you have any thoughts or estimates? I guess I could try different ranges, like 1.25, 1.5 and 1.75 times more likely to turn down.
 
If OOS ___ more likely to turn down = ___ WLers off

2x = 76
1.75x = 71
1.5x = 64-65
1.25x = 60
1x = 55

Again, that's following several assumptions from above, and those are estimates (rate of IS students turning down equaling .33, across the WL and already accepted, etc)
 
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OK great madein, you have the job.

Last year we typically called in on Mon and Wed to get a WL update but you folks can play it anyway you want.

As to your estimates madein, you need to consider that last year tucson went to 115 students. I would assume that this year would be the same. Another interesting thing from 09 was, because of the time separation between the last round of formal offers and the WL, that by the time the WL came out they had already pulled four names off of the WL. That was a fast start.

I would also assume that to keep themselves under the 25% OOS and not knowing how these OOS will fall-off that the percentage of OOS on the WL is probably pretty low. But since there is only one WL, then numbers are numbers and it really does not matter. As to how the decline rate for OOS is different from IS that would be hard to gauge.

Secondly, I believe that the decline rate for formal offers is likely higher than those off of the WL. For formal offers they reach aggressively, and for WL they accept passively – if you understand what that means.

But I think your first guess at the mid-70s is probably pretty good.

nonlocality
 
You bring up some good points, nonlocality. I hope you're ultimately right! I know each of your range estimates last year included the final number - you seem to know your stuff. Thanks a ton for your help! 😀 We look forward to hearing your thoughts in the future.
 
Not that my guess would be any better than anyone elses.

But to be clear, my first guess would be 50 + the number already accepted off of the WL. That is if you call monday and they say they have already taken 5 off then my guess would be 55.

Even with this years new OOS twist, at the end of the day I do not expect the WL to behave much differently than prior years.

For those in the 60's and 70's it will be a long, hard wait.


Oh yeah and my very best to sunny1, I hope everything works out for you in DO school.

nonlocality
 
Boooooo....rejected from Tucson.

Very happy to be on the Phoenix waitlist though and I think I am a better fit there anyway. I would personally be very likely to accept an offer from the WL (I'm OOS), but in general I think it will be very hard to predict at what rate OOSers would accept offers.

Definitely agree with nonlocality that decline rates for formal offers will be much higher than for WL offers...probably even more so with OOS formal offers (b/c of tuition costs, very competitive apps, rather go instate, etc).
 
Last year I received my rejection letter from UofA-Tucson on 3/11/09, and UofA-Phx on 3/23/09... So maybe we will hear final word from UofA-Phx on 3/22/10.
 
nonlocality said:
Not that my guess would be any better than anyone elses.

But to be clear, my first guess would be 50 + the number already accepted off of the WL. That is if you call monday and they say they have already taken 5 off then my guess would be 55.

Even with this years new OOS twist, at the end of the day I do not expect the WL to behave much differently than prior years.

For those in the 60's and 70's it will be a long, hard wait.
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Ok, that helps clarify, and the higher decline rate for accepted makes sense. Thanks 🙂 I'm interested in seeing your projections in the coming weeks.
 
MadeInReydn said:
Made a quick blog, just for you! Graph and all 😎 What's your rank on the WL?

http://blogforshamefame.blogspot.com/
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Ah Thank you so much Made! However I should have informed you, I was denied by Tucson and I'm on the wait list for PHX, which apparently isn't going to give any hints as to what the movement looks like.

Is there any news on phx?
 
No news that I know of, except what's been mentioned in previous posts: tier system with about 20 applicants in each; generally pull from first tier, then move to the next and so on; unsure if there are separate IS/OOS WL's; there may be a lot of OOS movement on the PHX WL b/c admissions can ensure 25% is OOS.
 
So, I thought I would put forth my thoughts on how Phoenix's WL seems to be structured. These are all just guesses, made from what I have been reading on this site.

From what I can piece together it seems like they have a 3-tier structure. Within each tier are ~20 students, but those students are unranked compared to each other. Each tier is ranked between them, i.e. - tier 1 goes before tier 2.

From what I have heard this is done to ensure that they end up with a diverse class. Given that they have such a small class size, it is reasonable that admissions-drift could give them a class that is all male, all white, all biochem majors, all something, and they don't want that. So, when someone drops out they will look into tier 1 to find someone who would be a suitable replacement when considering diversity. You wouldn't want to replace a music major with a heavy interest in rural medicine and a background in epidemiology with a biochem major who wants to be an anesthesiologist and a background in drug research. Unless, of course, somehow you don't already have any students like that.

So, if they don't find a suitable replacement in tier 1 they will go to tier 2. That means that if there happens to be another music/rural/epidemiology person in tier 2 then they might get pulled before tier 1 has been emptied. This could explain how it is that you ended up getting those stats you mentioned in one of your earlier posts, about how someone from tier 1 never got in while there were some from tier 2.

So, if what we have pieced together is true then I would be in tier 1 (which we have assumed was the first tier released) and I am hoping that they decide they are running low on white/male/biology/neuro research/comedians. 😀

And, I think I have finally started to cope with that number 46 WL spot. All those stats that you put together MIR really helped me, and I really appreciate it. If you're interested, I owe you a beer.

I decided that I am going to plan on getting in to Tucson (which is a dangerous move, but I think the statistics are on my side) and just leave PHX up in the air until I hear something. And, unfortunately, that roommate that I was raving about the other week has decided that he wants to move in with his long-time girlfriend so I need to figure out my living situation for next year. That puts me in a bind! Tough to find roommates when I am not even sure which part of the state I will end up moving to!
 
Let's get two separate lists going, one for each campus, to see how the WL is going to move this year:

1. Add your name, resident status, and position to the Tucson waitlist, if applicable.
2. If you previously added your name the the Tucson waitlist, remove "WL at Phoenix" from this area, and put your name under the date you were waitlisted in the newly created Phoenix section (so as to see if the waitlist released was segregated into IS and OOS, as previously hypothesized).
3. If neither of the above apply and you were just notified of WL status, add your name, including date WL'd (if Phoenix) or position (if Tucson).
4. Update any acceptances or withdrawals from the WL next to your name.


Tucson

Waitlist position:
14) SmokeyGray - IS; 1 other acceptance, 2 other waitlists, waiting on 3 more
16) Ilovewater - IS; 3 other acceptances, waiting on 5
34) Indiana06 - OOS; Accepted @ Phx
42) ACE28 - IS
46) ehandber - IS; 0 other acceptances/applications.
49) MedHopeful777 - IS, 0 other waitlists, 0 other acceptances, small pooled at Rosalind Franklin
61) MadeInReydn - IS; WLed @ PHX; 1 other acceptance (not my top choice)
62) paiger - IS; 0 other acceptances (2 other waitlists)
85) sweetlife - IS ; 0 other acceptances
89) aztri - IS
93) countryboydoc - IS
121) sunny1
123) BearDownAZ - IS; 0 other acceptances (1 waitlist, 1 in TBD)


Phoenix

Waitlist date:
03/04
Ehandber - IS
MadeInReydn - IS
chagramama- IS
happyglucky - ?
7franks - IS

03/05
Phosphorus Ylide - OOS; Accepted at RFU.
Meducated - ?
DancinSarah- OOS
JMJ777- OOS?

03/12
aztri- IS
 
Tucson

Waitlist position:
14) SmokeyGray - IS; 1 other acceptance, 2 other waitlists, waiting on 3 more
16) Ilovewater - IS; 3 other acceptances, waiting on 5
34) Indiana06 - OOS; Accepted @ Phx
42) ACE28 - IS
46) ehandber - IS; 0 other acceptances/applications.
49) MedHopeful777 - IS, 0 other waitlists, 0 other acceptances, small pooled at Rosalind Franklin
61) MadeInReydn - IS; 1 other acceptance (not my top choice)
62) paiger - IS; 0 other acceptances (2 other waitlists)
85) sweetlife - IS ; 0 other acceptances
89) aztri - IS
93) countryboydoc - IS
121) sunny1
123) BearDownAZ - IS; 0 other acceptances (1 waitlist, 1 in TBD)


Phoenix

Waitlist date:
03/04
Ehandber - IS
MadeInReydn - IS
chagramama- IS
happyglucky - ?
7franks - IS

03/05
Phosphorus Ylide - OOS; Accepted at RFU.
Meducated - ?
DancinSarah- OOS
JMJ777- OOS?

03/12
aztri- IS
 
Tucson

Waitlist position:
14) SmokeyGray - IS; 1 other acceptance, 2 other waitlists, waiting on 3 more
16) Ilovewater - IS; 3 other acceptances, waiting on 5
34) Indiana06 - OOS; Accepted @ Phx
42) ACE28 - IS
46) ehandber - IS; 0 other acceptances/applications.
49) MedHopeful777 - IS, 0 other waitlists, 0 other acceptances, small pooled at Rosalind Franklin
61) MadeInReydn - IS; 1 other acceptance (not my top choice)
62) paiger - IS; 0 other acceptances (2 other waitlists)
85) sweetlife - IS ; 0 other acceptances
89) aztri - IS
93) countryboydoc - IS
121) sunny1
123) BearDownAZ - IS; 0 other acceptances (1 waitlist, 1 in TBD)


Phoenix

Waitlist date:
03/04
Ehandber - IS
MadeInReydn - IS
chagramama- IS
happyglucky - ?
7franks - IS

03/05
Phosphorus Ylide - OOS; Accepted at RFU.
Meducated - ?
DancinSarah- OOS
JMJ777- OOS?

03/12
aztri- IS
paiger- IS
 
Hey guys, I was waitlisted at Tucson last year but luckily they got to my number! Just wanted to wish all of you good luck and know that there will be good days with lots of movement and weeks where it seems hopeless. If you are in the top 50 it is VERY likely that you will get in so keep that in mind when making plans for the summer. Look forward to meeting many of you at second look 🙂
 
ehandber said:
So, I thought I would put forth my thoughts on how Phoenix's WL seems to be structured. These are all just guesses, made from what I have been reading on this site.

From what I can piece together it seems like they have a 3-tier structure. Within each tier are ~20 students, but those students are unranked compared to each other. Each tier is ranked between them, i.e. - tier 1 goes before tier 2.

From what I have heard this is done to ensure that they end up with a diverse class. Given that they have such a small class size, it is reasonable that admissions-drift could give them a class that is all male, all white, all biochem majors, all something, and they don't want that. So, when someone drops out they will look into tier 1 to find someone who would be a suitable replacement when considering diversity. You wouldn't want to replace a music major with a heavy interest in rural medicine and a background in epidemiology with a biochem major who wants to be an anesthesiologist and a background in drug research. Unless, of course, somehow you don't already have any students like that.

So, if they don't find a suitable replacement in tier 1 they will go to tier 2. That means that if there happens to be another music/rural/epidemiology person in tier 2 then they might get pulled before tier 1 has been emptied. This could explain how it is that you ended up getting those stats you mentioned in one of your earlier posts, about how someone from tier 1 never got in while there were some from tier 2.

So, if what we have pieced together is true then I would be in tier 1 (which we have assumed was the first tier released) and I am hoping that they decide they are running low on white/male/biology/neuro research/comedians. 😀

And, I think I have finally started to cope with that number 46 WL spot. All those stats that you put together MIR really helped me, and I really appreciate it. If you're interested, I owe you a beer.

I decided that I am going to plan on getting in to Tucson (which is a dangerous move, but I think the statistics are on my side) and just leave PHX up in the air until I hear something. And, unfortunately, that roommate that I was raving about the other week has decided that he wants to move in with his long-time girlfriend so I need to figure out my living situation for next year. That puts me in a bind! Tough to find roommates when I am not even sure which part of the state I will end up moving to!
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Now tell me. Since I was WLed last week, but my other OOS friend has heard no news, that simply means I'm in the first tier? While he is just still waiting... Well does that increase my odds? Or is it just too random to assume that?
 
I haven't posted too much on the forum over this year's application cycle, and over the last three months I've even tried to not pay attention to the release dates for the two campuses. I want to go to med school more than anything, but I'm not willing to give myself an anxiety disorder in the process! After being rejected from 20 schools last year, I realized that no matter how long it takes I will end up in medical school, and I refuse to lose hope. On a positive note, I have an interview coming up at Midwestern, which seems like a very realistic possibility, and even more exciting is that I'm on the Phx waitlist (my #1 choice both years). I've loved reading everyone's contributions, and I always root for us SDNers...looking forward to hearing about some more acceptances rolling in soon!

-Scott


Tucson

Waitlist position:
14) SmokeyGray - IS; 1 other acceptance, 2 other waitlists, waiting on 3 more
16) Ilovewater - IS; 3 other acceptances, waiting on 5
34) Indiana06 - OOS; Accepted @ Phx
42) ACE28 - IS
46) ehandber - IS; 0 other acceptances/applications.
49) MedHopeful777 - IS, 0 other waitlists, 0 other acceptances, small pooled at Rosalind Franklin
61) MadeInReydn - IS; 1 other acceptance (not my top choice)
62) paiger - IS; 0 other acceptances (2 other waitlists)
85) sweetlife - IS ; 0 other acceptances
89) aztri - IS
93) countryboydoc - IS
121) sunny1
123) BearDownAZ - IS; 0 other acceptances (1 waitlist, 1 in TBD)


Phoenix

Waitlist date:
03/04
Ehandber - IS
MadeInReydn - IS
chagramama- IS
happyglucky - ?
7franks - IS
Opt79- IS

03/05
Phosphorus Ylide - OOS; Accepted at RFU.
Meducated - ?
DancinSarah- OOS
JMJ777- OOS?

03/12
aztri- IS
paiger- IS
 
I'm OOS as well and extremely excited that I've got a chance to get in and move to Phoenix! Looks overwhelmingly like the guess is right on about Thursday 3/4 being IS and Friday 3/5 OOS.

I also added ShameFame based on previous posts.

Tucson

Waitlist position:
14) SmokeyGray - IS; 1 other acceptance, 2 other waitlists, waiting on 3 more
16) Ilovewater - IS; 3 other acceptances, waiting on 5
34) Indiana06 - OOS; Accepted @ Phx
42) ACE28 - IS
46) ehandber - IS; 0 other acceptances/applications.
49) MedHopeful777 - IS, 0 other waitlists, 0 other acceptances, small pooled at Rosalind Franklin
61) MadeInReydn - IS; 1 other acceptance (not my top choice)
62) paiger - IS; 0 other acceptances (2 other waitlists)
85) sweetlife - IS ; 0 other acceptances
89) aztri - IS
93) countryboydoc - IS
121) sunny1
123) BearDownAZ - IS; 0 other acceptances (1 waitlist, 1 in TBD)


Phoenix

Waitlist date:
03/04
Ehandber - IS
MadeInReydn - IS
chagramama- IS
happyglucky - ?
7franks - IS
Opt79- IS

03/05
Phosphorus Ylide - OOS; Accepted at RFU.
Meducated - OOS
DancinSarah- OOS
JMJ777- OOS?
ShameFame - OOS

03/12
aztri- IS
paiger- IS
 
I appreciate it Meducated! I wish you the best of luck!

I think I may make a friendly phone call to ask if there is a difference between OOS/IS wait lists. After all, I don't think they even know what OOS tuition is yet... do they?
 
I don't know exactly how many people are on the PHX waitlist, but I would guess something around 50- basically the same size as the class. That seems to be about what they have at Tucson as well (1 WL spot for each seat).

As far as how many are in each Tier, I would assume roughly 1/3 of the total list. So, probably 18-20.

I think the PHX list might not move slower, but it just depends on how long it takes them to figure out who would be the ideal replacement for whichever student drops. Tucson just has to call the next number on the list. Phoenix is gonna have to look at each applicant and figure out if they would be a good fit in the class.

And I don't really know what a reasonable estimate is for PHX. The numbers that we have seen from various sources are very confusing. I would say that all in all there will probably be about 20 students that are currently waitlisted that will eventually get the acceptance. But, the numbers seem to point to more WL's getting in...
 
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So, here's my dilemma today-

I think I have a good shot at getting in to Tucson (#46) thanks to the wonderful stats that MIR put together for us. But, I have no idea what my shot is at PHX- all I know is that I was in the first release of the WL.

Since I will need a roommate regardless of which campus I end up going to, I probably should start looking now. I don't want to get stuck without a roommate, but I also don't know where I will be headed. Do you think it's too early to be thinking about this, and I should just wait until june/july? Or are people already pairing up for housing?

And, I would be curious how many people that are on our list of WL are actually intending on GOING if they get offered a spot. I don't know if everyone is too nervous to say, but I will say that I (obviously, due to no other applications) would go to UA if offered a spot on either campus. If offered a spot on both, my current standing is that I would end up in Tucson.
 
Thx ehandber. From what we know then is there may clearly may exist several other IS/OOS WLers out there from 3/4 and 3/5. It could quite possibly have been all the tiers not just the 1st. Too many unknowns to know anything at this point regarding Phoenix. To answer your question, I would attend Phoenix if offered a spot, it's my top choice. BTW, I can be your backup roommate in Phoenix should we both get in and you decide to attend. All the best.
 
ehandber said:
So, here's my dilemma today-

I think I have a good shot at getting in to Tucson (#46) thanks to the wonderful stats that MIR put together for us. But, I have no idea what my shot is at PHX- all I know is that I was in the first release of the WL.

Since I will need a roommate regardless of which campus I end up going to, I probably should start looking now. I don't want to get stuck without a roommate, but I also don't know where I will be headed. Do you think it's too early to be thinking about this, and I should just wait until june/july? Or are people already pairing up for housing?

And, I would be curious how many people that are on our list of WL are actually intending on GOING if they get offered a spot. I don't know if everyone is too nervous to say, but I will say that I (obviously, due to no other applications) would go to UA if offered a spot on either campus. If offered a spot on both, my current standing is that I would end up in Tucson.
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I am already looking for housing with my one roommate. I am pretty certain I will remain in Tucson this coming year though, so I don't have quite the same situation as you. There are a lot of options available right now for pre-leasing in Tucson if that interests you. Additionally, my roommate and I got a late start last year (we wanted to move mid-May and didn't secure our new place until late April) and everything worked out just fine. So I don't think you have to be overly concerned with either path you choose, there are always places to live 🙂
 
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