2009-2010 University of Arizona Application Thread

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I'm gonna be going up to the bars in Phoenix tonight if any of you happen to be out and about that direction, please feel free to give me a call/text. We can have a UAMed Bar outting for everyone, even us scrublets!

Erik Handberg
480.776.7812

And don't be giving that number out to everyone, I want it to be a secret. The internet is good at keeping secrets, right? 😎

OK, you already know I will be down there....and I will be disappointed if you do not go where I am going 🙂)
 
Just found the link and thought I would send all those wait listers some good luck! All I can say is that its a hell of a ride, feels like my class barely started and now its time to pick clerkships. Good Luck!
 
So does your friend have other offers? Is she pretty set on one of them then?

Yeah, she got multiple acceptances all around the country and she was pretty dead set on not attending UA. SO lucky to have so many options!!!
 
So here's some more theory 😎

If the 'first' WL at Phx has 29 AND it includes OOS applicants, do you think they split it 50% OOS, 50% IS (15/14 or vice versa)? Or do they make it similar to the ultimate proportions of the class size - 25% OOS and 75% IS (7/22)? By the numbers we have just on SDN, there are 7 IS and 6 OOS in the first WL group. :idea: I imagine that that is actually representative of how the WL is split b/c they expect more OOS applicants to decline and they don't want to run out of OOS WLers to pull - I also think it unlikely that our SDN thread has 6 of the 7 OOS WLed applicants (if it were split 7/22).

Some comforting thoughts: For OOS WLers, my OOS friend is on the Phx WL but he said he's just keeping the spot to keep his options open. He has another acceptance that is a higher priority and doesn't expect to go to Phx - so that's at least one spot you can X off. For all us PHX WLers, there is hope if chagramama and Dr. Rawls are right about moving through the first and into the second tier. If PHX is like Tucson, they move through at least half as many WL spots as there are class seats - so 24. Combined with the fact that many WLers are OOS, and they ought to make it into the second tier.

All SPECULATION of course 😀 Maybe I should have been a philosophy major or something . . . :laugh:
 
Yeah, she got multiple acceptances all around the country and she was pretty dead set on not attending UA. SO lucky to have so many options!!!

Sorry MedHopeful, I should have gathered my questions so you could answer them in one post! Is your friend IS or OOS?

With you being #49 on the WL, I would wager my right arm that you'll be getting a call/email around the end of May 😀
 
Sorry MedHopeful, I should have gathered my questions so you could answer them in one post! Is your friend IS or OOS?

With you being #49 on the WL, I would wager my right arm that you'll be getting a call/email around the end of May 😀

Ha ha It's absolutely no problem at all. The least I can do is give multiple posts to answer your questions. You have no idea how much all your speculation has calmed my nerves! I sure hope I get called at the end of May! That would be awesome!

So to answer your question, she is in state 🙂
 
So here's some more theory 😎

If the 'first' WL at Phx has 29 AND it includes OOS applicants, do you think they split it 50% OOS, 50% IS (15/14 or vice versa)? Or do they make it similar to the ultimate proportions of the class size - 25% OOS and 75% IS (7/22)? By the numbers we have just on SDN, there are 7 IS and 6 OOS in the first WL group. :idea: I imagine that that is actually representative of how the WL is split b/c they expect more OOS applicants to decline and they don't want to run out of OOS WLers to pull - I also think it unlikely that our SDN thread has 6 of the 7 OOS WLed applicants (if it were split 7/22).

Some comforting thoughts: For OOS WLers, my OOS friend is on the Phx WL but he said he's just keeping the spot to keep his options open. He has another acceptance that is a higher priority and doesn't expect to go to Phx - so that's at least one spot you can X off. For all us PHX WLers, there is hope if chagramama and Dr. Rawls are right about moving through the first and into the second tier. If PHX is like Tucson, they move through at least half as many WL spots as there are class seats - so 24. Combined with the fact that many WLers are OOS, and they ought to make it into the second tier.

All SPECULATION of course 😀 Maybe I should have been a philosophy major or something . . . :laugh:

Time out... How do you know there are only 29 PHX WLers? I was gone all week interviewing in crrrreighton, so i feel misinformed 😛 (I'm an OOS and I know the pools are separated.. so who knows)
 
So here's some more theory 😎

If the 'first' WL at Phx has 29 AND it includes OOS applicants, do you think they split it 50% OOS, 50% IS (15/14 or vice versa)? Or do they make it similar to the ultimate proportions of the class size - 25% OOS and 75% IS (7/22)? By the numbers we have just on SDN, there are 7 IS and 6 OOS in the first WL group. :idea: I imagine that that is actually representative of how the WL is split b/c they expect more OOS applicants to decline and they don't want to run out of OOS WLers to pull - I also think it unlikely that our SDN thread has 6 of the 7 OOS WLed applicants (if it were split 7/22).

Some comforting thoughts: For OOS WLers, my OOS friend is on the Phx WL but he said he's just keeping the spot to keep his options open. He has another acceptance that is a higher priority and doesn't expect to go to Phx - so that's at least one spot you can X off. For all us PHX WLers, there is hope if chagramama and Dr. Rawls are right about moving through the first and into the second tier. If PHX is like Tucson, they move through at least half as many WL spots as there are class seats - so 24. Combined with the fact that many WLers are OOS, and they ought to make it into the second tier.

All SPECULATION of course 😀 Maybe I should have been a philosophy major or something . . . :laugh:
First of all, MadeInReydn I think you are awesome 😎. I like the craziness we have going on here...

Some thoughts:
(1) It has to be highly doubtful that there are only 29 people on the "first" WL. Unless us scrublets are that awesome it is unlikely that we represent such a large proportion of the WL. On SDN, the are nearly equal people who have included their names on the Phx and Tucson WLs, but the list at Tucson includes around 125 WLers. So either Phoenix WLers are much more likely to be on SDN or the Phoenix WL is much larger than we think.

(2) As far as the IS/OOS ratio is concerned, my first inclination was that the OOS WL would be larger just because they will more than likely need to go through more OOS WLers to get near to their 25%. Just a hunch.

(3) With our "second" WL we only have 2 WLers, there is obviously a much greater number than that. Or they (aztri & paiger) were offered spots AFTER "first" tier WLers declined to retain their WL spot. So they may actually be on the first so-called "tier".

Some Questions:
(1) Do we know if an IS is replaced with another IS and vice versa?

(2) Do we know if a female is replaced with another female and vice versa?

(3) In Tara's email she explained that this year was different from past years (no rolling admissions)...leading me to think that since they back-filled their spots right away there will be a lot less WL movement than in the past?

(4) How many acceptances do we think have already been offered to the 550 people interviewed? At Tucson, roughly I believe that their acceptances and WL groups comprise half of the interview pool. Same or different at Phoenix?

Philosophize away...

-MCH
 
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MCH, you make some good points. 🙂 If you haven't guessed it yet, I actually just realized I like doing all that theorizing, not totally sure why though :laugh:

The 29 number (ShameFame, this answers your question) was given by chagramama as the number Dr. Rawls said was on the first WL, and the same source said at least the Thursday, March 4th emails were in the first tier. We're kind of assuming the 3/5 emails are also in it. All my theory counts on those assumptions being correct, and I'll say I'd expect my theory to be flawed sooner than what I just mentioned above.

Good questions (and someone else with more insight can help me out):

(1) I'm not sure if we know, but I would bet they replace an IS applicant with and IS applicant - not ranking their WL gives them the power to control the exact makeup of their class, and I bet they want to keep the 25/75 ratio.

(2) I don't think we know about this one and I'm not sure what to think. I would say they at least try to replace applicants with another who has similar interests/background etc. If they can ultimately get sex/race demographics the way they want, it's a plus. But I definitely could be wrong.

(3) Yeah, there will be less movement b/c of the backfilling, but some more b/c of OOSers. It'll probably ultimately be less, but who knows by how much . . . Does anyone know if Tucson backfills?

(4) Hey, that's a good point! :idea: Haha, I think you're right on that one (110 invitations + 125 WLers + any Tucson backfills? = at least 235 of 550). Do we know how many people Phoenix interviewed? If there were 2 'tiers' of 29 each, it'd make a total of 48 invitations + 60 WLers + # of backfilled spots = around half of those they interviewed; though they could interview many more, but their small class size only accommodates that much. Anyone know how many they interview?
 
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Do we know if Phx has notified all of the applicants of their status
(i.e. accepted, WLed, or rejected)? I thought there were still some people who hadn't heard anything from Phx....not sure. I'm just wondering how many applicants they have or intend to have on the WL. Paiger and I received notice of WL after the first batch went out - are we just backfilling the WL for those that declined their WL spots initially? Or are we part of the second less preferred list? From what we heard before though, they can pull anyone from the WL they want.

I also thought that both Phx and Tucson interviewed approx. 550-600 applicants, where the majority were IS (probably 75%) and remainder were OS. Seems like a lot for Phx...
 
I also thought that both Phx and Tucson interviewed approx. 550-600 applicants, where the majority were IS (probably 75%) and remainder were OS. Seems like a lot for Phx...

For some reason I thought the interview numbers were a little higher than that. It'd be interesting to know for sure.
 
Do we know if Phx has notified all of the applicants of their status
(i.e. accepted, WLed, or rejected)? I thought there were still some people who hadn't heard anything from Phx....not sure. I'm just wondering how many applicants they have or intend to have on the WL. Paiger and I received notice of WL after the first batch went out - are we just backfilling the WL for those that declined their WL spots initially? Or are we part of the second less preferred list? From what we heard before though, they can pull anyone from the WL they want.

I also thought that both Phx and Tucson interviewed approx. 550-600 applicants, where the majority were IS (probably 75%) and remainder were OS. Seems like a lot for Phx...

I was under the same assumption that Phoenix interviewed 550. Also, I don't know if everyone who has interviewed knows their status. As far as the your backfill question, I know that those waitlisted on 3/4 and 3/5 had until 3/11 to retain their position...guessing you took someone's spot. But, I don't think it matters because everything appears to be so "fluid". Take it for what is worth...all theory. :xf:

Thoughts my fellow philosophizer MIR?

-MCH
 
Just found my house with my roommate to live in next year!!! One less thing to worry about FINALLY!...Now if only that darn waitlist would move!
 
Some Questions:
(1) Do we know if an IS is replaced with another IS and vice versa?

(2) Do we know if a female is replaced with another female and vice versa?

This is all speculation of course.
1) Probably. They are accepting a MAXIMUM of 12 OOS applicants.

2) My guess is, the reason PHX has an unranked WL whereas Tuscon doesn't is because they don't want to get a class of 48 caucasian male dolphin trainers looking to enter primary care, which is far more likely with a small class than a large one.

Yes that's an exaggeration but you get the point. So I think the way they do it is, they have, say, 12 spots for primary care folks, 12 spots for research people, 12 spots for really interesting people, and 12 spots for gunners. When a gunner is offered a spot but rejects it because he was accepted to Harvard, PHX offers that spot to another gunner, but not to a primarycare/interesting/researcher.

Yes I'm obviously making up categories and numbers (they probably also have variables like male/female, white/non-white, tall/short etc), but it seems that if you have an unranked waitlist, small class size, that would be the way to ensure a diverse class.
 
Hmm, for aztri and Legit, I'm not sure. The first thing I'll say, before anything else, is that my thoughts might be biased - in my own benefit! 😛 I thought that the 3/4 and 3/5 emails comprised the 1st 'tier' and anything after that was the 2nd - but if that's the case it is odd that so many SDNers were placed in the 1st with so few in the 2nd. It is very possible that either the 3/12 emails backfilled the 1st WL and the 2nd has yet to be formed, OR - I don't know though.

Like Legit said, it is fairly fluid, and I'll bet your background/interests are more important than what tier you're on (meaning, if you're a better match for someone that just declined, you'll probably get pulled even if you're on the 2nd tier).

Have a good Sunday! 😀
 
Yes... I'd *love* to see some movement today. Could use some encouragement from the school side! Come on UA, start sending more accepts!
 
I think this board is dying because we're all so bummed that there hasn't been any movement for a while.

The way I see it, yea its frustrating now- but that just means we're all gonna be elated when it jumps 20 spots here in a few weeks!:xf:
 
I think this board is dying because we're all so bummed that there hasn't been any movement for a while.

The way I see it, yea its frustrating now- but that just means we're all gonna be elated when it jumps 20 spots here in a few weeks!:xf:

That's the spirit! It's so hard not to get bummed, but I sure hope you are right about a big jump 🙂

Did anyone call Tucson yesterday? I tried calling twice, but it went to voice mail each time. I can try again today around noonish.
 
Sounds good! I think you should call and let us know that they are now on number 45 and that I'm up next! 😀

Actually, it'd be nice to just know that we have broken that 14 wall we've been on for a while.
 
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!

CONGRATS!

So, now its decision time for you!
 
Tucson

Waitlist position:

14) SmokeyGray - IS; ACCEPTED 03/22/10. 1 other acceptance, 2 other waitlists, waiting on 3 more
16) Ilovewater - IS; ACCEPTED 03/30/10. 3 other acceptances, waiting on 5
17) tmm808 - IS; 3 other acceptances
20)SurfdudeJD - IS; waiting on 3 others
34) Indiana06 - OOS; Accepted @ Phx
39) Nasappah - OOS; 2 other acceptances, couple waitlists
42) ACE28 - IS
46) ehandber - IS; 0 other acceptances/applications.
49) MedHopeful777 - IS, 0 other waitlists, 0 other acceptances, small pooled at Rosalind Franklin
61) MadeInReydn - IS; 1 other acceptance (not my top choice)
62) paiger - IS; 0 other acceptances (2 other waitlists)
81) Happyglucky - IS; 2 other acceptances, waiting on 1
85) sweetlife - IS ; 0 other acceptances
89) aztri - IS; 0 other acceptances
93) countryboydoc - IS; Accepted @ Phx, 2 other acceptances, 3 waitlists, waiting on 3 more
121) sunny1
123) BearDownAZ - IS; 0 other acceptances (1 waitlist, 1 in TBD)

Phoenix

Waitlist date:

03/04
Ehandber - IS
MadeInReydn - IS
chagramama- IS
happyglucky - IS--ACCEPTED 03/24/10
7franks - IS
Opt79- IS
nodnarber - IS

03/05
Phosphorus Ylide - OOS; 1 other acceptance
Meducated - OOS
DancinSarah- OOS
JMJ777- OOS; 1 other waitlist, 1 interview to go
MIR's Friend - OOS; 1 acceptance, a few other WL's, Phx not his top choice
Nasappah-OOS

03/12
aztri- IS
paiger- IS
 
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WOOOOO HOOOOO!!!! Congrats Ilovewater! ...I'm with Eric though. The next time I call it better be at #45 because that would mean Eric is next and that I am four calls away!
 
Thanks guys. It'll definitely be a hard decision to make now, but I'm grateful to be in that position.
 
Thanks guys. It'll definitely be a hard decision to make now, but I'm grateful to be in that position.

Congrats Ilovewater! Trust me, as tough a decision as it will be to choose which school to go to, you should be ECSTATIC you have such great options! I'm jealous... 😉

Would love it if more of us on SDN got called off the waitlist today as well!
 
Entering Fall 2008:

3/24 (12 days): 3
3/25 (13 days): 5
4/04 (3 ½ weeks): 12
4/07 (4 weeks): 13
4/22 (6 weeks): 18

Entering Fall 2009:

3/18 (7 days): 6
3/25 (2 weeks): 10
3/30 (2 ½ weeks): 11
4/01 (3 weeks): 13
4/08 (4 weeks): 15
4/15 (5 weeks): 17

Entering Tucson Fall 2010:

3/15 (3 days): 13
3/22 (10 days): 14
3/30 (2 1/2 weeks): 16

We are still way ahead previous years at this same time! Hopefully that's a good sign we will get far down the WL this year!
 
CONGRATS Ilovewater!!!! Did you hear today?

Eric, you're right about the bummed out thing, but maybe some people are like me, and just doing all they can to keep their blood pressure low :laugh: JK

Things <<<<<<<<should>>>>>>>>>> start picking up in a few weeks - I mean, some students wont wait till the May 15 deadline to decide, and will probably decide or get other, more appealing invites in the next few weeks. :xf::xf::xf::xf::luck::luck::luck::luck: Knock on wood, etc, etc.
 
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We are still way ahead previous years at this same time! Hopefully that's a good sign we will get far down the WL this year!

Yeah! The May 1st number has represented around 38-40% of the total number pulled, and the May 15ht number represented about 58-60% of the total number pulled.

With that, multiplying our May 1st number by 2.5 should give a ROUGH, hopefully conservative estimate of the total number. We've got about 9 spots to go in a month to give paiger and me a good shot. PLEASE oh PLEASE! :xf:

YEAH BABY! Way to go Ilovewater! 😀
 
So, I just calculated what my final undergrad GPA is likely to be-

If I get a B in this class I will end up graduating Summa Cum Laude, and if I get a B- in this class I will end up graduating Magna Cum Laude. My current score in this class is an 83%. So, I have literally no slipping room or I am gonna change that stupid word (which I care about for some reason).

I don't think I could be more frustrated with this semester! PLEASE ADCOMS---make me a happier dude ASAP!

BLAH BLAH BLAH turtle snout permits air breathing in trionychidae blahblah

AHHHHHHHHHHHHH!😡
 
So, I just calculated what my final undergrad GPA is likely to be-

If I get a B in this class I will end up graduating Summa Cum Laude, and if I get a B- in this class I will end up graduating Magna Cum Laude. My current score in this class is an 83%. So, I have literally no slipping room or I am gonna change that stupid word (which I care about for some reason).

I'm going to be graduating "Super Duper Summa Cum Laude Extraordinaire Pretty Much The Best Ever Hire Or Accept Me Now" 😎 To do it, you have to get an exact GPA, 3.7634082389, or something like that. Only one person has ever done it - I will be the 2nd 😀 Ha ha

Don't get too worried Erik. Pretty soon you'll be accepted to Tucson and you might actually forget what your undergrad GPA was 😎 I'll trade you for mine if you really, REALLY want to, but it'll cost ya for my "Super Summa" title 🙂
 
I am having such a great day today! Not ONLY did the waitlist move a little bit, but I also found a BEN's BELL ON CAMPUS TODAY!!!

For those of you who are going to be new to Tucson, there is an organization called Ben's Bells here. The short story for the background is that a little boy named Ben passed away tragically a few years ago. His mom was so sad that she wondered if other people around her felt the same and she just couldn't see it from the outside. So she created this organization called Ben's Bells. They have a studio right by campus where the whole community can come to help make wind chimes. Twice a year (spring and fall) they are hung all around Tucson (supposedly 10 per square mile) in secret hiding places. If you find one it is supposed to symbolize spreading kindness and love. I have lived here three years and had never found one and just found one today! It was an awesome feeling!

For any of us that get into med school here in Tucson I definitely think we need to make a trip to the Ben's Bells workshop because it is super relaxing and really rewarding when you help make the wind chimes.

I know this is a little off the waitlist topic, but I figured maybe we needed something different to think about even for just a second ha ha!
 
I like that. Ben's Bells. Very cool. That's on my to-see list now.
 
So, I just calculated what my final undergrad GPA is likely to be-

If I get a B in this class I will end up graduating Summa Cum Laude, and if I get a B- in this class I will end up graduating Magna Cum Laude. My current score in this class is an 83%. So, I have literally no slipping room or I am gonna change that stupid word (which I care about for some reason).

I don't think I could be more frustrated with this semester! PLEASE ADCOMS---make me a happier dude ASAP!

BLAH BLAH BLAH turtle snout permits air breathing in trionychidae blahblah

AHHHHHHHHHHHHH!😡

Good luck, ehandber! Reminds me of how bummed out I was in undergrad - finished a music degree before deciding to go to med school, but pulled my grad papers so I could keep my senior status to sign up for med school prereqs/get my second degree. Had I posted the music degree, I would have been Magna for music and Summa for biology later, but instead, they changed the damn requirements (and my music gpa brought down my science/gpa), so I ended up being freaking cum laude when I posted both in the end. Grrr. I care about those words, too, and I'm still bitter!
 
Sorry Brrroo. That sounds crappy! Also, is your name supposed to be read in Hulk Hogan's voice, because that's how it is goin' down!

Hey, do me a favor and tell PHX that they should LEMME IN LEMME IN LEMME IN LEMME IN LEMME IN!
 
Sorry Brrroo. That sounds crappy! Also, is your name supposed to be read in Hulk Hogan's voice, because that's how it is goin' down!

Hey, do me a favor and tell PHX that they should LEMME IN LEMME IN LEMME IN LEMME IN LEMME IN!

Ha, nice - well now I'll hear Hogan's voice every time someone says "Brrroooo", so thanks for that!

And yeah, Erik, I'm rootin for ya! If I had any pull, I'd talk to them for you, but I'm pretty sure they don't care about my opinion! I was speaking to someone from Admin just yesterday, and it sounds like they're just kind of at a stand-still now, you know, waiting for people to finalize their plans for next year.
 
Accepted. 🙂

Yay! Congrats! I'm really happy to see the WL moving again!

And jturkel, Congrats on getting into BU! You have a tough decision ahead of you! Im still in this tortuous waiting game.
 
Hey I was wondering... Would people with acceptances to both campuses be more apt to choose Tuscon or PHX? With all this movement in Tuscon would more of those people accepted both be dropping their PHX spots? or visa versa?
 
Can you confirm this ShameFame??

Tucson

Waitlist position:

14) SmokeyGray - IS; ACCEPTED 03/22/10. 1 other acceptance, 2 other waitlists, waiting on 3 more
16) Ilovewater - IS; ACCEPTED 03/30/10. 3 other acceptances, waiting on 5
17) tmm808 - IS; 3 other acceptances
20)SurfdudeJD - IS; waiting on 3 others
34) Indiana06 - OOS; Accepted @ Phx
39) Nasappah - OOS; 2 other acceptances, couple waitlists
42) ACE28 - IS
46) ehandber - IS; 0 other acceptances/applications.
49) MedHopeful777 - IS, 0 other waitlists, 0 other acceptances, small pooled at Rosalind Franklin
61) MadeInReydn - IS; 1 other acceptance (not my top choice)
62) paiger - IS; 0 other acceptances (2 other waitlists)
81) Happyglucky - IS; 2 other acceptances, waiting on 1
85) sweetlife - IS ; 0 other acceptances
89) aztri - IS; 0 other acceptances
93) countryboydoc - IS; Accepted @ Phx, 2 other acceptances, 3 waitlists, waiting on 3 more
121) sunny1
123) BearDownAZ - IS; 0 other acceptances (1 waitlist, 1 in TBD)

Phoenix

Waitlist date:

03/04
Ehandber - IS
MadeInReydn - IS
chagramama- IS
happyglucky - IS--ACCEPTED 03/24/10
7franks - IS
Opt79- IS
nodnarber - IS

03/05
Phosphorus Ylide - OOS; 1 other acceptance
Meducated - OOS
DancinSarah- OOS
JMJ777- OOS; 1 other waitlist, 1 interview to go
MIR's Friend - OOS; 1 acceptance, a few other WL's, Phx not his top choice
Nasappah-OOS
ShameFame- OOS

03/12
aztri- IS
paiger- IS
 
Yay! Congrats! I'm really happy to see the WL moving again!

And jturkel, Congrats on getting into BU! You have a tough decision ahead of you! Im still in this tortuous waiting game.

thanks! it will be indeed tough. we'll see what happens. i still have a couple more schools to hear from and financial aid.....it will likely come down to the latter
 
So would anyone like to call or email Tara at Phoenix today to see where the WL is at? Also, I'm not sure how often tmm808 visits the thread, so we may want to call Tucson tomorrow if we haven't heard anything.
 
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Looks good JMJ. Someone took my name off it along the way, and i didn't bother to add it again. 😛

Bump on my question earlier? What's the overall preference to those with double acceptances? tuscon or phx?
 
Bump on my question earlier? What's the overall preference to those with double acceptances? tuscon or phx?

i chose tucson over phoenix, though it was a rather difficult decision
 
Bump on my question earlier? What's the overall preference to those with double acceptances? tuscon or phx?

It seems like almost everyone that I know personally picked Phoenix over Tucson that have applied in the last 3 cycles. It is too small of a sample size though to take much from it.
 
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