2009-2010 University of Chicago (Pritzker) Application Thread

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PritzkerGuy,

About what time do students get out of class ever day? The online schedule for the fall semester makes it look like everyone is done pretty late (http://pritzker.uchicago.edu/md/curriculum/schedules/Summer_MS1_Schedule.pdf).

PritzkerGuy can probably comment more accurately since he's done it more recently, but that's the summer schedule, which encompasses anatomy and histology and is, I think, understandably heavy on lab time in the afternoons. That lasts for 10 weeks and leads into the autumn schedule (http://pritzker.bsd.uchicago.edu/md/curriculum/schedules/Autumn_MS1_Schedule.pdf), which you'll find is much more manageable. During the first year, it only gets better from there.

Keep in mind that a few years ago, anatomy and histology used to be taught in parallel with other classes like biochemistry and physiology. To be able to take anatomy and histology without any other responsibilities is better, to say the least. Yes, the days can be long, but it's anatomy; it's not going to learn itself.
 
Hey All-
So I was placed on hold in august when I applied. I know my chances are relatively grim, but just wanted any advice on what to do next. I sent a long update email, about 4 paragraphs (1 long paragraph about why I still wanted to go to Pritzker, and 3 shorter paragraphs about volunteer work, research updates, and general life updates since August). I'm out of school, so no additional grades to send. I was thinking about sending a "Top 10 Reasons I Want to Go to Pritzker" email or something psuedo-creative like that. Good idea? Bad idea? Or should I just wait it out and leave it at that one email. Also....any current Pritzker students have any idea of when hold applicants will hear about decisions?

All I sent was a list of my activities. Maybe I should send a gushing email about why I love Pritzker...though I have no idea what I could write in such an email that would sway them to invite me.

Do you think that the simple act of sending them an update is sufficient enough to demonstrate your interest in the school, or should I bombard them with long essays on why I want an interview?

I have already gotten acceptances, and although I would have chosen U of C over those places I am not in desperate need of an acceptance from them.
 
PritzkerGuy can probably comment more accurately since he's done it more recently, but that's the summer schedule, which encompasses anatomy and histology and is, I think, understandably heavy on lab time in the afternoons. That lasts for 10 weeks and leads into the autumn schedule (http://pritzker.bsd.uchicago.edu/md/curriculum/schedules/Autumn_MS1_Schedule.pdf), which you'll find is much more manageable. During the first year, it only gets better from there.

Keep in mind that a few years ago, anatomy and histology used to be taught in parallel with other classes like biochemistry and physiology. To be able to take anatomy and histology without any other responsibilities is better, to say the least. Yes, the days can be long, but it's anatomy; it's not going to learn itself.

Actually, not the best person here to answer that b/c I was the transition year. I got some of the old and some of the new.

First, Anatomy was moved to the summer. It's 10 weeks of just anatomy (well you have Health Care Disparities but that's a "fluf" class that's there for your own enjoyment) -- honestly those first 10 weeks were intense but were amazing!!! You are just concentrating on anatomy so you can really really focus your efforts. Second, you are spending a lot of time in lab with your class which is great in the beginning because it really bonds the class. Finally, anatomy is said and done and you're ready to start the real classes. I loved it. Also, lab is not mandatory. While many people went the full time, many would go for an hour and leave etc.

The new curicculum has more class time in it spread throughout the year. That's not necessarily a bad thing. My winter quarter consisted of 2 hours three days a week with two days a week having 4 hours. It was pretty light. What they've done now is more small groups - which you have to decide if that's how you're going to learn.

But honestly let me put it this way ... if you didn't go to class in undergrad, you prolly wont change that much. Usually attendance in a class is about 80%. I'd say 50% of my class ALWAYS goes to everything. Then there's another 30% that go most of the time, but if something else comes up they don't mind missing. Then there's another 10% who come maybe half of the times, but really don't mind missing for anything. And then there are the famous 10% of the our class ... that will never set foot inside a classroom unless it's exam day.
 
LOL the famous 10%!

Actually, not the best person here to answer that b/c I was the transition year. I got some of the old and some of the new.

First, Anatomy was moved to the summer. It's 10 weeks of just anatomy (well you have Health Care Disparities but that's a "fluf" class that's there for your own enjoyment) -- honestly those first 10 weeks were intense but were amazing!!! You are just concentrating on anatomy so you can really really focus your efforts. Second, you are spending a lot of time in lab with your class which is great in the beginning because it really bonds the class. Finally, anatomy is said and done and you're ready to start the real classes. I loved it. Also, lab is not mandatory. While many people went the full time, many would go for an hour and leave etc.

The new curicculum has more class time in it spread throughout the year. That's not necessarily a bad thing. My winter quarter consisted of 2 hours three days a week with two days a week having 4 hours. It was pretty light. What they've done now is more small groups - which you have to decide if that's how you're going to learn.

But honestly let me put it this way ... if you didn't go to class in undergrad, you prolly wont change that much. Usually attendance in a class is about 80%. I'd say 50% of my class ALWAYS goes to everything. Then there's another 30% that go most of the time, but if something else comes up they don't mind missing. Then there's another 10% who come maybe half of the times, but really don't mind missing for anything. And then there are the famous 10% of the our class ... that will never set foot inside a classroom unless it's exam day.
 
Hey All-
So I was placed on hold in august when I applied. I know my chances are relatively grim, but just wanted any advice on what to do next. I sent a long update email, about 4 paragraphs (1 long paragraph about why I still wanted to go to Pritzker, and 3 shorter paragraphs about volunteer work, research updates, and general life updates since August). I'm out of school, so no additional grades to send. I was thinking about sending a "Top 10 Reasons I Want to Go to Pritzker" email or something psuedo-creative like that. Good idea? Bad idea? Or should I just wait it out and leave it at that one email. Also....any current Pritzker students have any idea of when hold applicants will hear about decisions?
I'd be careful about letters dealing with many specifics on why you go to Pritzker at this point. I read all the podcasts transcripts, and admissions basically says they like to know that you're still interested, but really don't value letters of interest much from pre-interview applicants because they feel that the things that are really worth loving about Pritzker are things you have to experience on interview day.

So update letter with interest thrown in the letter = good. Standalone, long letter of interest = not as good. I think the most important thing is showing your continued interest in Pritzker. I've sent an update letter 3 weeks ago, called in a week ago, sent in some extra materials this week, etc.

According to last year's thread, someone heard back by December 7th, but in the podcasts they kept referring to January even though our status says "hold" 😕
 
Actually, not the best person here to answer that b/c I was the transition year. I got some of the old and some of the new.

First, Anatomy was moved to the summer. It's 10 weeks of just anatomy (well you have Health Care Disparities but that's a "fluf" class that's there for your own enjoyment) -- honestly those first 10 weeks were intense but were amazing!!! You are just concentrating on anatomy so you can really really focus your efforts. Second, you are spending a lot of time in lab with your class which is great in the beginning because it really bonds the class. Finally, anatomy is said and done and you're ready to start the real classes. I loved it. Also, lab is not mandatory. While many people went the full time, many would go for an hour and leave etc.

The new curicculum has more class time in it spread throughout the year. That's not necessarily a bad thing. My winter quarter consisted of 2 hours three days a week with two days a week having 4 hours. It was pretty light. What they've done now is more small groups - which you have to decide if that's how you're going to learn.

But honestly let me put it this way ... if you didn't go to class in undergrad, you prolly wont change that much. Usually attendance in a class is about 80%. I'd say 50% of my class ALWAYS goes to everything. Then there's another 30% that go most of the time, but if something else comes up they don't mind missing. Then there's another 10% who come maybe half of the times, but really don't mind missing for anything. And then there are the famous 10% of the our class ... that will never set foot inside a classroom unless it's exam day.

I see. The reason I asked is because I recently interviewed at a school that is out by noon on most days. Pritzker and this other school have or are near campuses that have good philosophy programs (Chicago has a BOMB DIGGITY PHILOSOPHY CORPS), and I wanted to study philosophy in my leisure time. I was verry worried Pritzker's schedule might hedge out my free time for exploration.
 
Hey guys, quick question. I don't remember what they said during the interview date, but are classes at Pritzker recorded and put up online?
 
You have plenty of time to take classes in other fields (ie buisness, law, Chinese, whatever you want. They really encourage you to take classes in anything that you're interested in. And if you want to take a year to study music, religion, anything you want, you can do it. Bottom line is Pritzker loves students who want to explore the world outside of medicine - and being on the UChicago campus you will have amazing opportunities to do so.



In response to the last question, my first year nothing was recorded and it was a point that we brought to the administration. Now, as part of the Pritzker Initiative, we have a program called Time/Space which is supposedly one of the most advanced programs at any medical school. All lectures are recorded. All powerpoints/guides anything is uploaded to the site and linked. But what's really 'special' about it is you can do a search at any point in your time at pritzker or after you graduate (it's open for alumni) and let's say you type in myocardial infarction - it will locate all relevant lectures recorded at pritzker and give you similar topics such as athersclerosis, ischemia, etc. and you have all the lecs and everything at your disposal.

Bottom line. Yes lecture is recorded, but it goes far beyond that.

Oh yea, happy thanksgiving ... go eat some turkey!
 
You have plenty of time to take classes in other fields (ie buisness, law, Chinese, whatever you want. They really encourage you to take classes in anything that you're interested in. And if you want to take a year to study music, religion, anything you want, you can do it. Bottom line is Pritzker loves students who want to explore the world outside of medicine - and being on the UChicago campus you will have amazing opportunities to do so.



In response to the last question, my first year nothing was recorded and it was a point that we brought to the administration. Now, as part of the Pritzker Initiative, we have a program called Time/Space which is supposedly one of the most advanced programs at any medical school. All lectures are recorded. All powerpoints/guides anything is uploaded to the site and linked. But what's really 'special' about it is you can do a search at any point in your time at pritzker or after you graduate (it's open for alumni) and let's say you type in myocardial infarction - it will locate all relevant lectures recorded at pritzker and give you similar topics such as athersclerosis, ischemia, etc. and you have all the lecs and everything at your disposal.

Bottom line. Yes lecture is recorded, but it goes far beyond that.

Oh yea, happy thanksgiving ... go eat some turkey!

That's incredible. This is going to be a very difficult decision! Happy Thanksgiving and thanks for all your insights PritzkerGuy! 👍
 
anyone else interviewing Monday, November 30th?
 
SteinUmStein if you have questions about how I personally made the decision you can ask on here or PM me. You've got some awesome schools on your list that you've been accepted to. Congrats.

And that goes for anyone ... if you want some advice on picking school's PM and I will give you my honest opinion ... yes I am biased bc I love Pritzker, but there's def some schools that I have strong negative feelings about and def some schools that I have very positive feelings about ... I was in your shoes a few years ago so I know how tough of a decision it can be.
 
just got my acceptance letter. no phone call. interview was 10/16

are all the scholarships the same?
 
well if anyone is going to be on campus on Monday, I will be interviewing then. see you there! 🙂
 
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No ... the scholarships are def not the same ...

they can range from around 1/2 tuition to tution + some living expenses
 
No ... the scholarships are def not the same ...

they can range from around 1/2 tuition to tution + some living expenses

Does pretty much every student get at least a 1/2 tuition scholarship, or is there a significant portion of the class who go without a scholarship?
 
I don't know of anyone that got accepted w/o a scholarship ...

if you get into Pritzker you will be getting a scholarship. if another school offers you more money or if you are considering going to another school for other reasons let the admissions office know and you have a good chance that they might up your scholarship for you ... no guarantees but once you hold the acceptance you are the one in power.

Honestly, Pritzker wants students who are excited to go to Pritzker, who love Pritzker because of the opportunities and enviornment that the school provides ... they don't want you to choose another school because of money ... they don't want you not to be able to pursue other opportunities (ie second degrees, years off, etc.) because of financial restrictions. Pritzker wants you to decide to come to Pritkzer because you love it!
 
I got accepted without a scholarship. I don't qualify for need-based scholarships, but I was hoping (to no avail, it seems) that Pritzker would be generous with me. I sent in my tuition deposit and asked about scholarships on the phone and was told that I should look for outside sources for merit scholarships.
 
Any word on accpetances lately? It's been 7 weeks since the interview for me 😕

Any one else ready for week 8 of waiting?? I swear to god I'm going to have a heart attack from this. I think I'm gonna call this week, but I'm worried I'll sound like an impatient jerk even while asking as nicely as possible. Please just let me in.....
 
I got accepted without a scholarship. I don't qualify for need-based scholarships, but I was hoping (to no avail, it seems) that Pritzker would be generous with me. I sent in my tuition deposit and asked about scholarships on the phone and was told that I should look for outside sources for merit scholarships.


I also received an acceptance this cycle (in October) without a notification of a scholarship. I was under the impression, though, that scholarships were awarded later, perhaps after the FAFSA was sent in (even merit scholarships). Maybe Pritzker guy can elaborate on this...
 
scholarship is independent of FASFA. sometimes they tell you your scholarship over the phone when they accept you ... sometimes you have to wait a few weeks. In any matter you will know before the May 15th deadline what Pritzker is offering you. If you've been accepted but and haven't heard in a while about a scholarship it might be a good idea to call David Owen, and ask him if there's a chance you could be getting aid from Pritzker (don't assume .... that'd be in bad taste haha)
 
interviewed today. everything went great and loved it here! hoping for good things to come from them in the future 🙂

i was told by the dean in my interview that the average score on their boards is around 236ish, with 50% or more scoring above a 250.
 
interviewed today. everything went great and loved it here! hoping for good things to come from them in the future 🙂

i was told by the dean in my interview that the average score on their boards is around 236ish, with 50% or more scoring above a 250.


:wow::bow:
 
Continuing my quest here as a "continued candidate". I submitted my letter of interest to Pritzker last week by email and sent them a hard copy too. My continued brethren, we cannot give up! I like Pritzker too much.

Can somebody confirm if the Admissions Committee meets once or twice every week? I know that my continued application will be reviewed each time the AdCom meets, but wanted to check the frequency.
 
Good luck friendlybear! :xf:

Continuing my quest here as a "continued candidate". I submitted my letter of interest to Pritzker last week by email and sent them a hard copy too. My continued brethren, we cannot give up! I like Pritzker too much.

Can somebody confirm if the Admissions Committee meets once or twice every week? I know that my continued application will be reviewed each time the AdCom meets, but wanted to check the frequency.
 
Continuing my quest here as a "continued candidate". I submitted my letter of interest to Pritzker last week by email and sent them a hard copy too. My continued brethren, we cannot give up! I like Pritzker too much.

Can somebody confirm if the Admissions Committee meets once or twice every week? I know that my continued application will be reviewed each time the AdCom meets, but wanted to check the frequency.


Good luck! They start possibly re-reviewing our apps today at the earliest. So hopefully some holds (like myself as well) will get invites (or at least some decision) before Christmas.
 
Good luck! They start possibly re-reviewing our apps today at the earliest. So hopefully some holds (like myself as well) will get invites (or at least some decision) before Christmas.
Mdeast, I heard there are only gonna be two off the hold list... and they're US! 😎

lol
 
interviewed today. everything went great and loved it here! hoping for good things to come from them in the future 🙂

i was told by the dean in my interview that the average score on their boards is around 236ish, with 50% or more scoring above a 250.

That's interesting. I wonder how the rumor that Pritzker students don't do well on step 1 got started, or what the deal is with the avg 217 in the step 1 compilation thread (ie is it just old or was it never accurate).

Either way we all know it's a great school, but it's still interesting.
 
Mdeast, I heard there are only gonna be two off the hold list... and they're US! 😎

lol


Woot! Yay!....

To anyone interested I found the original podcast where they talk about this. I think it's from a year or two ago, so the time frame (January re-review) may be slightly different this year.

§ “How many get off the hold list, and when?”
BF: Okay. So, for this Episode 8 we’ll be talking about listener questions, specifically. We’ll be discussing questions that have been submitted by pre-med students and applicants to the Pritzker School of Medicine, so let’s get started. We’ve got about eight or so questions to go over, and Mary and I will just switch off reading questions to Joni and David. So, the first one for Joni is from a person on studentdoctor.net named Phoenix, and she asks, “I remember reading that there are about 250 applicants on pre-interview hold from year to year, and that about 10% of these may receive interview invites,” and Joni can you confirm that?
JH: I think that’s a pretty good approximation. We don’t have a set number that we intentionally put on hold every year so it can fluctuate a little bit, but 250 is a pretty good round number, and those that they may receive interview invites, again, that can be an approximation that can be anywhere from about 15 to 30. So, I think it’s a pretty good round number and we seem to be, at least for those that we currently have on pre-interview hold right now, that 250 approximation is about where we are so I think that’s a good accurate representation right now.
BF: Okay. And my understanding is just that that number doesn’t depend on a quota or anything. It just depends on how many people are selecting other schools or withdrawing their applications and so forth. Is that correct?
JH: Right. So, what we will do, the students who have been told that they’re on hold are also notified that we will re-review their application in January. And so, at that time, we have a better sense of how many interview slots we still have available. As you mentioned, there maybe people starting to withdraw from Pritzker who are already scheduled to interview in January but who may have gotten accepted at a school that is a top choice for them and so they’re starting to withdraw their interview confirmations at other medical schools, so we’ll have a better sense of how many places we still have available that we can give out to those who are still on hold. I do think it’s really important, because spirits can change as you keep going through this process–maybe somebody was really excited about Pritzker back in August; now they’re on hold and they don’t really care a lot about Pritzker. They’ve been going to other schools. I think those that are on hold that are still really interested in Pritzker–it would be a great idea to just send us a quick email and say, “I realized I’m on hold but I’m still really interested in Pritzker and would love the opportunity to interview.” That can help us in understanding that if we make them an interview offer, they’re likely to come and interview and that Pritzker is still a top choice for them. So, it doesn’t have to be anything long and elaborate but just a quick email that let’s us know that they’re still interested even though they maybe already interviewing at other schools, that’s something that’s really helpful to us and that can just get sent to the general of Pritzker Admissions email address.
BF: Okay. And then the final part of that question was that apparently there have been some sort of anecdotal rumors flying around the boards about people coming off the hold list early and getting invited for interviews; is that something that’s possible or are all held applicants reviewed in January en masse?
JH: I would say that most of the applicants that are put on hold are reviewed all together in January. There have been a couple of exceptions to that–and honestly what typically happens with that is if for example there was a person who was on hold and I happen to visit their campus on one of my recruiting trips. The applicant came up to me, said they were on hold, we had a really long conversation, and I thought it would be a great person for Pritzker so I sent their application back to the committee early to try to see if the committee would want to bring them in to interview. But I would say the number of times that that’s happened this year is about a total of three. So it’s certainly is not a phenomenal trend that’s been going on.
 
Woot! Yay!....

To anyone interested I found the original podcast where they talk about this. I think it's from a year or two ago, so the time frame (January re-review) may be slightly different this year.
:xf:
 
When I interviewed a few years back, 217 or national average was the number. Also, big fat scholarships are a more recent phenomenon. Neither of these two factors had swayed my decision of coming here. After all, it's the University of Chicago, dude! 😍

That's interesting. I wonder how the rumor that Pritzker students don't do well on step 1 got started, or what the deal is with the avg 217 in the step 1 compilation thread (ie is it just old or was it never accurate).

Either way we all know it's a great school, but it's still interesting.
 
That's interesting. I wonder how the rumor that Pritzker students don't do well on step 1 got started, or what the deal is with the avg 217 in the step 1 compilation thread (ie is it just old or was it never accurate).

Either way we all know it's a great school, but it's still interesting.

one of my three interviews was with the dean of admissions. i actually mentioned that compilation thread when asking him about their scores and he was taken aback by it. in fact, he asked me to forward him the link so he can correct it. that is why i asked.

he reassured me that the average lies about 15 points above the national average with over half scoring above 250.
 
one of my three interviews was with the dean of admissions. i actually mentioned that compilation thread when asking him about their scores and he was taken aback by it. in fact, he asked me to forward him the link so he can correct it. that is why i asked.

he reassured me that the average lies about 15 points above the national average with over half scoring above 250.
Sweet jesus. That is one heck of a stat.
 
one of my three interviews was with the dean of admissions. i actually mentioned that compilation thread when asking him about their scores and he was taken aback by it. in fact, he asked me to forward him the link so he can correct it. that is why i asked.

he reassured me that the average lies about 15 points above the national average with over half scoring above 250.

Very interesting. Thanks for doing the detective work. Not that it's the most important thing to consider, but it is reassuring to hear.
 
Very interesting. Thanks for doing the detective work. Not that it's the most important thing to consider, but it is reassuring to hear.

i know. when i read the stat it concerned me. at the end of my interview after asking other questions, i was basically seeking clarification. while an important statistic, it is obviously not the sole determining factor in making a decision about a medical school.
 
Chicago is sending me e-mails to submit my secondary... I wonder if it's still worth doing? I would love to attend, and considering its program and generous scholarship, it would be one of my top choices... but if spots are already full then I would just be throwing money away.
 
In terms of board scores:

Dr. Halena Brukner, one of our deans, just did a presentation on taking the boards.

She presented the average board score as 236 for the class of 2011. While Pritzker is known to rock step 1 we are more famous for our stellar Step 2's. Now, everyone says that step 1 is way way more important than step 2. That's true, and we do very, very well (236 average while the national average is 220) but the reason that Pritzker's step 2 average is so important is becasue residency programs know that Pritzker's gold gem of medical education preparation for the wards. When we go to residency interviews the hospitals know that Pritzker students do very, very well on the wards (correlated with Step 2 scores) which can help tremendously. Since you may interview w/o step 2 scores, it's more of the average of a school's step 2 that can give you a boost in an interview.

So in summary ... we rock step 1 and we murder step 2 .... and we're Pritzker .... residency = you choose ... have you seen this year's match list .... 9 ORTHO!!! 10 Radiology!!
7 matched to Harvard
6 to Standford
5 to UWashington
4 to UPENN
3 to Hopkins
3 to UCSF
and the list goes on and on and on

Look and compare school's match lists ... it's hard to beat a list like Pritzkers .... while a school is much, much, MUCH more than a match list, it's still nice to know that your school is kicking butt when it comes to the match 🙂
 
interviewed today. everything went great and loved it here! hoping for good things to come from them in the future 🙂

i was told by the dean in my interview that the average score on their boards is around 236ish, with 50% or more scoring above a 250.

Was this for Step I or Step II? 236 seems awfully high, and if in fact more than half the class did better than 250, it'd be unlikely for the average to be only 236.

But, I'll look more into it. Everything I've ever heard is more in the 220 range for Step I. I wouldn't be surprised, though, if the average Step II score here were much higher.
 
In terms of board scores:

Dr. Halena Brukner, one of our deans, just did a presentation on taking the boards.

She presented the average board score as 236 for the class of 2011. While Pritzker is known to rock step 1 we are more famous for our stellar Step 2's. Now, everyone says that step 1 is way way more important than step 2. That's true, and we do very, very well (236 average while the national average is 220) but the reason that Pritzker's step 2 average is so important is becasue residency programs know that Pritzker's gold gem of medical education preparation for the wards. When we go to residency interviews the hospitals know that Pritzker students do very, very well on the wards (correlated with Step 2 scores) which can help tremendously. Since you may interview w/o step 2 scores, it's more of the average of a school's step 2 that can give you a boost in an interview.

So in summary ... we rock step 1 and we murder step 2 .... and we're Pritzker .... residency = you choose ... have you seen this year's match list .... 9 ORTHO!!! 10 Radiology!!
7 matched to Harvard
6 to Standford
5 to UWashington
4 to UPENN
3 to Hopkins
3 to UCSF
and the list goes on and on and on

Look and compare school's match lists ... it's hard to beat a list like Pritzkers .... while a school is much, much, MUCH more than a match list, it's still nice to know that your school is kicking butt when it comes to the match 🙂


This sounds awesome. Please tell the admissions office to let me off hold and give me an interview.
 
Dr. Brukner, our dean, informed us the average was 236 for class of 2011. She mentioned that many received scores 250+ but no where did I hear that it was half the class ... statistically I don't think that would work out to be right ... espeically since everyone passes (pass is 180) ...

But again ... I can only verify that our average for 2011 is 236 ... actually it was something like 236.2
 
Dr. Brukner, our dean, informed us the average was 236 for class of 2011. She mentioned that many received scores 250+ but no where did I hear that it was half the class ... statistically I don't think that would work out to be right ... espeically since everyone passes (pass is 180) ...

But again ... I can only verify that our average for 2011 is 236 ... actually it was something like 236.2

Dean Abelson told me in the interview that over 50% score over 250. It was off the top of his head, so i'm gonna go with him on this one, though i suppose everyone COULD make mistakes. It IS very very possible mathematically though for everyone to pass and have that class average.

so in a hypothetical situation, half the class of 88 scores a 250. and the other half can score the national average of 222. those two get you an average score of 236. everyone passes and at or above the national average.
 
If you study hard and do the best you can in preparing for step 1, you'll be fine...regardless of what your school's average is.
 
shout out to everyone else from the hold list who is on the edge of their seats!
 
shout out to everyone else from the hold list who is on the edge of their seats!

I think we still have a bit of waiting to do. At least it'll definitely be over by January 5th. According to last year's thread, one applicant got off the hold list this week last December, so there's definitely hope it could be sooner rather than later (although, I'm not holding my breath).
 
Saw that as well and really hoping the same happens here. :xf:
 
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