2011-2012 Harvard Application Thread

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A few questions:

First, what exactly is the deal with sending in additional materials after you've been interviewed at Harvard?

Second, when people send in additional materials, what sort of stuff is customary? I have two things I'd like to send in. One is a letter from a professor I've been working for that I think would be pretty strong and would show a side of me that my other recommendations probably didn't capture. The other is an update on a project that I've been working on, which I described in my secondary, but is now further along. Is that sort of stuff typical?
 
I am in the same boat. App Complete August 5th. This Friday will be 15 weeks. No word yet. Hopefully a rejection letter isn't in the mail, but at least the wait would be over!
 
Interview Invite today NP

I submitted Sept 26, not too sure when I became complete

This is like a dream come true =)😳😳😳
 
I'm interviewing on Dec 15th, but they gave me a range from Dec 1-16th
 
At all the other schools I interviewed, the school gives you a sense of the timeline from there-on-out (ie. when they will get in touch with you, the chances of acceptance, etc.). However, they didn't do that.

So most schools I have gone to say something like: "of all the X people we interview, we will accept Y people- that is a Y/X shot"

Does anyone know that statistic for Harvard? The MSAR only gives info on matriculated not accepted, so it is not an exact measure.
 
At all the other schools I interviewed, the school gives you a sense of the timeline from there-on-out (ie. when they will get in touch with you, the chances of acceptance, etc.). However, they didn't do that.

So most schools I have gone to say something like: "of all the X people we interview, we will accept Y people- that is a Y/X shot"

Does anyone know that statistic for Harvard? The MSAR only gives info on matriculated not accepted, so it is not an exact measure.

That's cuz Harvard doesn't need to exhaust a WL...
 
Oh so 25% is not bad at all. I thought it was much lower.
Can I ask were you got the accepted number from?

Either way thanks.
 
Oh so 25% is not bad at all. I thought it was much lower.
Can I ask were you got the accepted number from?

Either way thanks.

US News has the number accepted for almost all schools, you have to pay for this feature, though.
 
Hey, you got it! Go you! 🙂


Heya Heya I got the date now, I had to choose 3. It will be Dec. 16 a Friday. I'm coming from New York that day and will leave sometime on Saturday! If you're free we should meet up again!🙂🙂
 
So I confirmed my interview about a week ago; should i be getting information on student hosts soon?
 
When I went to my interview, all the interviewees were talking about how they received an information packet from Harvard around a week before they were asked to interview. They even claimed that is how they knew they were going to get an invite

What does it mean if you haven't received this packet? I guess my real question is has anyone else interviewed and didn't get a mailing from them.

When I write it out- it does sound silly. But in the moment I felt kinda insecure that everyone was contacted by the school except me.
 
When I went to my interview, all the interviewees were talking about how they received an information packet from Harvard around a week before they were asked to interview. They even claimed that is how they knew they were going to get an invite

What does it mean if you haven't received this packet? I guess my real question is has anyone else interviewed and didn't get a mailing from them.

When I write it out- it does sound silly. But in the moment I felt kinda insecure that everyone was contacted by the school except me.

I'm not sure of the correlation between getting the packet and receiving your II, but I do know that you only get the packet if you checked the box to receive a hard copy of their newsletter on the secondary. So, I would guess no correlation - because if you checked the box, you'll get the pack regardless of II or not, and if you didn't check the box, you don't get any packet.
 
When I went to my interview, all the interviewees were talking about how they received an information packet from Harvard around a week before they were asked to interview. They even claimed that is how they knew they were going to get an invite

What does it mean if you haven't received this packet? I guess my real question is has anyone else interviewed and didn't get a mailing from them.

When I write it out- it does sound silly. But in the moment I felt kinda insecure that everyone was contacted by the school except me.

🙄

I received a packet about a month and a half ago, and I am still complete with no interview. I knew the packet was coming because.....I requested for it.
 
The packet you guys are discussing was by request. When filling out the secondary, there was a question: "Do you want to receive an info packet?" If you did, then you checked the box.

I doubt there is any connection between info packets and II. I don't think you should worry if you have not received one. 🙂
 
When does the interview day usually end? Could there be interviews scheduled that won't be done by 4pm? Thanks!
 
When does the interview day usually end? Could there be interviews scheduled that won't be done by 4pm? Thanks!

Yes, my second interview was 5-6pm. Some people were finished by 3pm, but you won't know until the morning of.
 
Hi everyone, I hope the application cycle is going well for everyone! I normally do not browse the MD forums, but I have a question that I would like to ask for a friend, and it seem like this place is where I should ask.

Does anyone know any background on the school's application process to New Pathways in regard to international students? Any input from US applications are welcome too.

I have been told by an individual that they offer telephone interviews and do not require a face to face interview at the school for acceptance. As well, it was told to me that they offer acceptances before january? From what I understand all MD acceptances are around March, and they do not offer any information prior to that. Anyone may be able to give any information? It would be nice to clear things up.

Thanks ahead of time.
 
Hi everyone, I hope the application cycle is going well for everyone! I normally do not browse the MD forums, but I have a question that I would like to ask for a friend, and it seem like this place is where I should ask.

Does anyone know any background on the school's application process to New Pathways in regard to international students? Any input from US applications are welcome too.

I have been told by an individual that they offer telephone interviews and do not require a face to face interview at the school for acceptance. As well, it was told to me that they offer acceptances before january? From what I understand all MD acceptances are around March, and they do not offer any information prior to that. Anyone may be able to give any information? It would be nice to clear things up.

Thanks ahead of time.
As an international applicant (albeit Canadian), I can tell you I'm almost certain that everyone must interview on campus, and HMS does not offer acceptances prior to March. I doubt the application process differs greatly for international vs. domestic students.
 
This year there were >1000 applications. There are 8 interview dates. Today was the first. Each interview date accommodates at most 24 applicants. There are certain dates reserved for MD/PhD applicants. The last interview invites go out in mid-January. The last interview date is in early February.

"The interviews will be held on the following Tuesday afternoons: November 29, December 6, December 13, January 10, January 17, January 24, January 31, February 7. Final decisions will be made by late March 2011."

Below is copied and modified from a HST newsletter:

As has been true for the past several years, applicants were interviewed by a panel of at least two people - usually two faculty members, sometimes with one upper level student (year 3 or beyond) [sometimes one student plus one faculty member]. Additionally, Dr. Frosch met with every interviewed applicant for a brief conversation (strictly 10 min, just to put a face to the application). A recruiting session at which applicants learned about life as an HST student from current first or second year students rounded out the applicant's day.

All interviewed candidates were then discussed in one of the three subcommittees, with consideration given to academic and extracurricular records, letters of recommendation as well as reports from the interview. Approximately half of the interviewed applicants were then advanced to the main committee. This committee then assessed these applicants on the basis of their application and the reports from interviewers and the subcommittee along the model of NIH study sections. A primary and two secondary reviewers presented the applicant, discussing strengths and weaknesses and recommending rough scoring ranges. Following group discussion, applicants were scored by all members of the group, and these results were used to determine a rank order for admissions. This set of recommendations was then presented to the HMS Admissions Executive Committee, which accepted them as proposed.

[In 2010]
Roughly 40% of applicants also apply to the MD-PhD program. From this pool, ~165 applicants were interviewed, with 80 advanced to the main committee for discussion and ranking. Within the applicant pool, women represented just less than a third of the candidates, but a slightly larger fraction of those receiving offers of a place in the HST class.
 
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Just interviewed yesterday! I was one of the three on one interviewees: hopefully that means they saw some promise.

For future HST candidates though, definitely be prepared to talk for awhile uninterrupted while the interviewers furiously scribble down notes. Intimidating, no?
 
There was lots of speculation that you got paired with interviewers who are related to your research interests. The admissions coordinator debunked this; she just assigned interviewees randomly as they confirmed their interview date.
 
Has anyone tried calling the admissions office before to ask about the status of their application? My app has been complete since early Aug and I am wondering if I should just call them and ask instead of this anxious waiting.
 
Has anyone tried calling the admissions office before to ask about the status of their application? My app has been complete since early Aug and I am wondering if I should just call them and ask instead of this anxious waiting.

You're welcome to try, but they're likely to get a bit shirty with you if you're just calling for a status update.
 
Has anyone tried calling the admissions office before to ask about the status of their application? My app has been complete since early Aug and I am wondering if I should just call them and ask instead of this anxious waiting.

I'm told by one of the admissions coordinators that they only give status updates if you've already been invited for an interview for one of the programs (NP or HST). Everyone else gets the same reply about being patient and notifications in March.

They're still actively screening, and will be until mid January.
 
Received my first rejection yesterday, but was humbled by an HST interview invite about an hour afterwards for 01/17.

Still eager for an NP invite though. Has anyone else seen a delay between the NP/HST invites, or can I consider myself out of the running for NP?
 
Received my first rejection yesterday, but was humbled by an HST interview invite about an hour afterwards for 01/17.

Still eager for an NP invite though. Has anyone else seen a delay between the NP/HST invites, or can I consider myself out of the running for NP?

Congratulations!! Also, I think some people had several days in between invites. . . don't count yourself out yet 🙂
 
Congratulations!! Also, I think some people had several days in between invites. . . don't count yourself out yet 🙂

Congratulations to you too - looking above it seems like you just had yours! Was your interview day about what you expected? Very research heavy?

Perusing some of the older threads here it seems like many of the HST matriculants end up turning down offers at other MSTP programs. I unfortunately received an HST MSTP rejection the same day I received my HST MD invite, but considering all the funding mechanisms they have for medical students interested in research, I'm not particularly disappointed about the rejection. Did you also apply to their MSTP?
 
Congratulations to you too - looking above it seems like you just had yours! Was your interview day about what you expected? Very research heavy?

Perusing some of the older threads here it seems like many of the HST matriculants end up turning down offers at other MSTP programs. I unfortunately received an HST MSTP rejection the same day I received my HST MD invite, but considering all the funding mechanisms they have for medical students interested in research, I'm not particularly disappointed about the rejection. Did you also apply to their MSTP?

Extremely research-heavy! Research easily took up over half of the interview when I consider my own talk and then my interviewers' talk about their own fields. Also, my interviewers each had 100+ publications and knew exactly what to ask when I was done presenting. That said, it was not horrifically stressful and I felt like I was able to answer those questions with the same grace as any other interview question.

I did not apply MSTP, but I think they mentioned that a decent amount of people apply successfully to MSTP after being accepted as an HST MD. Even if they do not switch to MSTP, any people also spend an additional year on research.
 
Thought you guys might enjoy this. By the HMS 2nd years... and my interviewer.. :laugh:

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ygTTdZpECI[/YOUTUBE]
 
HST, MD PhD II! I am so freaking excited at this moment.
 
Not a MD PhD applicant here, so pardon me asking: what is this II that you guys talk about? Is that the interview?
 
Hey all, I'm new to SDN, but I follow this thread from time to time. Hopefully someone can offer some advice!

I submitted my HMS secondary (for both NP and HST) on 9/9/11, but I still haven't heard back. I'm assuming this means a rejection? I'm interviewing at other top schools, and I wouldn't be so anxious about HMS if it weren't for personal reasons (I'm the guardian of my younger sister who goes to high school 15 minutes from HMS, I've worked at HMS for the past three years so all my friends are here, and I am in a serious relationship with a student here. I think I'll end up at a good school in the end, but staying here would be great for my family and relationship.

Do you gals and guys think I'm out of luck for not having heard back at this point? How should I act to enhance my prospects?

Thanks for the advice!

You could send them an interest letter saying what you just told us, though I think schools like Harvard don't really care about letters of interest.
 
Hey all, I'm new to SDN, but I follow this thread from time to time. Hopefully someone can offer some advice!

I submitted my HMS secondary (for both NP and HST) on 9/9/11, but I still haven't heard back. I'm assuming this means a rejection? I'm interviewing at other top schools, and I wouldn't be so anxious about HMS if it weren't for personal reasons (I'm the guardian of my younger sister who goes to high school 15 minutes from HMS, I've worked at HMS for the past three years so all my friends are here, and I am in a serious relationship with a student here. I think I'll end up at a good school in the end, but staying here would be great for my family and relationship.

Do you gals and guys think I'm out of luck for not having heard back at this point? How should I act to enhance my prospects?

Thanks for the advice!

I think Harvard is non-rolling so you can get an interview at any time and not be at a disadvantage. Who knows exactly how they review apps, but like most places its probably a combination of GPA/MCAT and completion date. I'd guess that they set some aside for later review/re-review but since they don't have regular status updates its hard to say where exactly you stand.

As far as HMS being your first choice, I think we can all find numerous reasons for wanting to go there. Sadly, I'm not sure how much convenience factors into adcoms decisions.
 
Just wanted to give a summary of my experiences.

The HST program has its own medical society offices and lounge within the larger medical school, and this was our homebase for the interview day, where we could talk with students as they were coming and going. There was an atrium linking the other (4?) society offices and lounges that the students in New Pathways belong to. Overall, it was an incredibly friendly atmosphere, and students were willing to talk about anything and give what seemed liked very honest and open answers about everything from sharing kitchen space in student housing to how to pick a research lab from the vast number at Harvard and MIT. The HST society has several staff members who work there all the time helping students and running the program. There were some really wonderful personal touches and details that I didn't expect. For example, the office manager Patty (sp?) Cunningham, puts out cookies every day, so the students can come in between classes and have a snack, coffee, tea, etc.

There were a few standard parts of the interview day that are similar with other schools, including a lunch with the students, a discussion on student life, and an introduction and overview of the program as a whole (with Drs Mitchell and Frosch) in the lecture room where most of the HST classes are given.

The interviews themselves were a little different from what I've had at other schools. There was one hour long interview, generally with two faculty members, and then a very short 10 minute interview with Dr. Matt Frosch, who not only personally does all the screening of the 1000+ applicants written submissions, but also meets with every interviewee one on one. The longer interview focused on a discussion of research and past experiences, and the interviewers ask some very detailed and probing questions, and took a lot of written notes. My interviewers didn't make me write anything on the board, but some of the interviewees ended up using the chalkboard to answer questions about their research. This may sound more intimidating than it really was, and it was actually a good experience, as the interviewers were so clearly enthusiastic and deeply knowledgeable about biomedical research, that it made the discussion fun, and I feel like I actually got a lot out of talking with them. One nice thing about the interviews was that as far as I could tell, they were all held in the same building, upstairs from the classrooms and society lounge, so you didn't have to go running around town trying to find physician interviewers at one of the affiliated hospitals. The interview with Dr. Frosch was very brief, and he was very friendly and welcoming, but it was hard to gauge whether he was responding positively or negatively. MD-PhD students had an additional morning interview, but I don't know about the details.

The admissions coordinator who seems to be the one who runs the whole process is Zara Smith, and she made the day a very personalized experience. She's the one who actually sends you your invitation and arranges your visit, and then makes sure your day runs smoothly. I was in the last group of interviews for the day, and she brought us snacks and drinks, and came to visit with us and tell us jokes and funny stories while we waited. She went out of her way to make sure everyone could leave on time and didn't miss any flights, something that is sometimes unpredictable in Boston winter weather. As current HST students came or went, she talked to them about this or that, giving the whole place a very warm feel, like one big family. Overall, she helped to defuse a lot of the stress and anxiety inherent in the process.

If you're applying to the program, I'm sure you know that HST involves a lot of class time. The students spend basically spend their full work-week in classes or teaching labs (like anatomy). If you learn well in a small classroom setting, maybe similar to an upper division course in your major that has ~30 people in it, then this a good setting for you. Because the students spend so much time in actual course/lecture work, the impression I got talking with them is that they might actually spend less time reading or studying on their own compared to many other medical students, who might have less class time, but more reading or watching of videos to do on their own. The fact that they all spend so much time together is probably also why they seemed so personally close to one another, giving things a collaborative feel. At the same time, it was clear that the atmosphere was intense in terms of the depth and breadth of material and the dedication of the students. Students repeatedly used the term 'intensity' to describe the program, both with positive and negative connotations. You can decide if this appropriate for you.

The HST and NP pathway students joked with each other about the differences in programs, mostly for our benefit, and relationship between programs seemed very convivial.

Good luck to everyone in your applications and interviews! :luck::xf:
 
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HST invite today! So excited!! For those interested, I was complete early/mid-September.
 
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