2013-2014 University of Kansas Application Thread

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You used to be able to check MEDS but I heard they did away with it because too many people were contacting them about the status.

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Heads up guys. Just received an email saying if you interviewed early January no decision letter until after February 17th. They haven't finished reviewing applicants for the 8/9/10 block.

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Is there a place that we can actually look to see these things outside of just waiting for an email or letter?
Nope, I asked Jason and he said letters would be sent out
 
Just call the office and ask if it's being reviewed.

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I actually went in and turned in a letter of recommendation that somehow wasn't showing on Amcas- they took it and I got the interview invite for Wednesday!!!!
 
I know, I'm just hoping Jason was right that they still had slots open and would extend an interview for them as the date got closer- this was as of Monday the 3rd of Feb.
It's ok, I got the invite Friday evening 🙂
I'm thrilled!!!
 
My friend who got into A&M gave me her slot 😉
Seriously, I'm so dying of excitement.
I've wanted to be Dr since I was 4- I'm 35. Listened to too many naysayers telling me I would never get it, that good moms can't be a physician and as a military wife it wouldn't happen. Oh and I grew up with an estranged alcholic father who killed himself in 2002, disabled mom with brain damage and mental health issues who I parented. Then had kids and my middle son ended up being taken away from me for almost 2yrs for unexplained bone fractures(8-10 of them and one in foster care). Won our case and got our sons home and then found out he was autistic and later schizophrenic (childhood onset). I've fought like many others to claw my way from a welfare kid with no dad to finishing college with an ill child and moving around all the time (hubby active duty army 18yrs) on my own. Medicine was my savior through all of this, I've had a passion for it my whole life and the more experience I gained (Air Force, civilian army med assistance and appointment clerk, referrals management, to VA as an executive assistant to director of surgery and then back to patient transporter) the more I LOVE it. There is nothing more I love after my family and god than medicine 🙂
The people, the complexity, the smells (except poop and vomit). I would do this 100% for free if I could.
I would trade nothing in my life- all if these obstacles have refined me into the person I have become with a perspective about human life many never achieve. Sounds corny, and I know most people look at me funny but I absolutely 1000% with all me being know I am meant to be a physician.
Just cross those fingers! A wait list would be amazing, direct admit a dream but post bacc is also an honor.
Just to have gotten this far is such an honor! All the time sacrificing has been worth it.
Now- what should I wear?
Black dress pants, cream conservative business sweater jacket (don't have a blazer), and a plain black blouse under. Pearls and very natural subdued nails.
Understated makeup (since I'm so old, I've got to try and hide the tired).
Hair is my only dilemma- I have naturally wavy hair, if I wear it wavy- I was going to do a low bun. I can straighten it too I guess but I still thought a bun or some sort of chignon would be most professional. Did you see others wear their hair down?
What questions besides my low MCAT and kids should I be prepped for?
 
I've wanted to be Dr since I was 4- I'm 35. Listened to too many naysayers telling me I would never get it, that good moms can't be a physician and as a military wife it wouldn't happen. Oh and I grew up with an estranged alcholic father who killed himself in 2002, disabled mom with brain damage and mental health issues who I parented. Then had kids and my middle son ended up being taken away from me for almost 2yrs for unexplained bone fractures(8-10 of them and one in foster care). Won our case and got our sons home and then found out he was autistic and later schizophrenic (childhood onset).

First of all, congratulations! Let's get you some coaching help. I would omit pretty much everything in this paragraph as they hear it constantly and rather than discuss how bad you've wanted it you would do better to discuss what you've done to get here. From my experiences telling stories is nice but at the end of the day they're more interested in why you felt this call rather than how you've always felt it.

I've fought like many others to claw my way from a welfare kid with no dad to finishing college with an ill child and moving around all the time (hubby active duty army 18yrs) on my own. Medicine was my savior through all of this, I've had a passion for it my whole life and the more experience I gained (Air Force, civilian army med assistance and appointment clerk, referrals management, to VA as an executive assistant to director of surgery and then back to patient transporter) the more I LOVE it. There is nothing more I love after my family and god than medicine 🙂

Demonstrate that through your stories and what you have to show from them. I grew up in an Air Force family as well, and I feel as if it gave me a great understanding of people because I met so many.

The people, the complexity, the smells (except poop and vomit). I would do this 100% for free if I could.

Altruism is great (because I would do it for free if I could as well) but I would not tell them this in such a way.

I would trade nothing in my life- all if these obstacles have refined me into the person I have become with a perspective about human life many never achieve. Sounds corny, and I know most people look at me funny but I absolutely 1000% with all me being know I am meant to be a physician.

This right here is a great perspective (other than the perspective many never achieve part). I felt the same way and said it during my interview and the interviewer loved it and agreed with it. To really get a grasp on where you're going, you need to be comfortable with where you came from.

Most women I saw at the interview were dressed rather conservative. Some had hair down, some had it in a bun. If you have long hair I'd say wear it up. Otherwise, down is fine. Really it's more about looking professional and being comfortable.

What questions besides my low MCAT and kids should I be prepped for?

That depends on how low your MCAT was. KU looks at your highest scores from multiple tests and they care more about your sciences than they do about your verbal.

They will definitely ask you the stock questions, but they want unique answers (Why medicine, why KU, etc). You, like myself (I'm 32), will get questions as to what you've been up to. How have you prepared for this? Where do you see yourself? Why medicine now? Basically, how together do you have things? If you see medicine as a form of stability, it probably won't resonate well. They're not looking for people who found the missing link and without medicine they feel incomplete. It might make it sound more like you're searching for what completes you. They're looking instead for people who have found that calling and are pursuing it out of sincere passion and desire to sacrifice their time and intellect for the good of others.

You also have to take into account that no amount of preparing will help you answer some questions. It all comes from reasoning your way through and showing them you can demonstrate an ability to think and reason in difficult situations.

Best of luck to you in your interview. I'm hoping to hear the same - acceptance or post-bacc, but if I get a straight rejection I'm going to try again and try harder.
 
First of all, congratulations! Let's get you some coaching help. I would omit pretty much everything in this paragraph as they hear it constantly and rather than discuss how bad you've wanted it you would do better to discuss what you've done to get here. From my experiences telling stories is nice but at the end of the day they're more interested in why you felt this call rather than how you've always felt it.



Demonstrate that through your stories and what you have to show from them. I grew up in an Air Force family as well, and I feel as if it gave me a great understanding of people because I met so many.



Altruism is great (because I would do it for free if I could as well) but I would not tell them this in such a way.



This right here is a great perspective (other than the perspective many never achieve part). I felt the same way and said it during my interview and the interviewer loved it and agreed with it. To really get a grasp on where you're going, you need to be comfortable with where you came from.

Most women I saw at the interview were dressed rather conservative. Some had hair down, some had it in a bun. If you have long hair I'd say wear it up. Otherwise, down is fine. Really it's more about looking professional and being comfortable.



That depends on how low your MCAT was. KU looks at your highest scores from multiple tests and they care more about your sciences than they do about your verbal.

They will definitely ask you the stock questions, but they want unique answers (Why medicine, why KU, etc). You, like myself (I'm 32), will get questions as to what you've been up to. How have you prepared for this? Where do you see yourself? Why medicine now? Basically, how together do you have things? If you see medicine as a form of stability, it probably won't resonate well. They're not looking for people who found the missing link and without medicine they feel incomplete. It might make it sound more like you're searching for what completes you. They're looking instead for people who have found that calling and are pursuing it out of sincere passion and desire to sacrifice their time and intellect for the good of others.

You also have to take into account that no amount of preparing will help you answer some questions. It all comes from reasoning your way through and showing them you can demonstrate an ability to think and reason in difficult situations.

Best of luck to you in your interview. I'm hoping to hear the same - acceptance or post-bacc, but if I get a straight rejection I'm going to try again and try harder.
You are so awesome!!! Thanks! Honestly this was directed to PlasticEthusE and in my lameness I thought it was a private message.
You advice is awesome! My MCAT was a 20- 8v, 6,6. No excuses other than I have testing accommodations and when I gathered the crazy list of stuff for Amcas they told me they were no longer accepting applications for the rest of the 2013 cycle. I figured I would try and take anyway as they still could have denied my request.
So- my mistakes were nerves and timing- I ran out of time on BS and Verbal. Scored 2-PTs lower than practice tests on both. PS was a different story- I scored 8-9 as highest and 5 lowest so prob pretty accurate rep, I also didn't have Time to spare and made mistakes on easy stuff. Hindsight is 20/20- can't fix what's done. My answer is that my MCAT doesn't reflect my true abilities. Not sure to share about the test accommodations issue- concerned they will see this as a negative. Perhaps just stating my anxiety was a factor as well as not having been able to take a course such as Kaplan? I would rather direct the conversation to a more positive direction and stress my ability to persevere and succeed by focusing on grades, utilizing resources from the office of cultural diversity, having community resources to assist with my son and family moving close by to assist me with the children.
You made excellent points and I appreciate it! I am sappy here but after working in the business world of healthcare, I can be professional too 🙂
Any questions about ethics or Obama Care?
Thanks! Corinn
 
Had one question about ethics both times as well as Obamacare the second time around.

In terms of your MCAT, if it comes up, don't explain to them that it doesn't represent your abilities well. Demonstrate to them somehow that it doesn't. The first time I interviewed they talked about my MCAT scores as though they were an afterthought but I could have used them as strengths to explain some other aspects of my application. In this manner, you could do the opposite. I wouldn't avoid talking about your score, because it should be addressed. I would, however, give adequate reasoning as to why it may have been that way and what you could do differently to make it better (study more, take it again, more preparation). Making excuses will not get you anywhere (and believe me, even if they aren't excuses people are people and will see them as such) but making a good case for yourself will.

They tend to ask a lot of what I call "distraction questions", where it's designed to sort of throw you off balance and get you talking about something related. Use these opportunities to not only answer the question, but to also give them insight as to who you are and why you feel that way. Answering questions in such a rich manner will give them more than just a check on a checklist; it will give them valuable information to be used on your behalf.

I appreciated both times I interviewed because it also helped me learn a little more about myself and what my strengths and weaknesses are. The second time I interviewed I was much more confident in my past and where my future was headed.

You sound incredibly excited, and I'll give you this advice to carry with you: Don't subdue it, but don't overdo it!

Show them you. Just don't show them you out of control, in other words. If you don't know something, don't pretend to. If you have an opinion about something, offer it and be prepared to defend it. If you believe something, show that it doesn't just waiver when someone challenges it.

Above all else, you must demonstrate a propensity for learning from your mistakes and how those mistakes strengthen you as a person and as a candidate.
 
.....Show them you. Just don't show them you out of control, in other words. If you don't know something, don't pretend to. If you have an opinion about something, offer it and be prepared to defend it. If you believe something, show that it doesn't just waiver when someone challenges it.

Above all else, you must demonstrate a propensity for learning from your mistakes and how those mistakes strengthen you as a person and as a candidate.

Everything you said in your reply was excellent.
 
You are so awesome!!! Thanks! Honestly this was directed to PlasticEthusE and in my lameness I thought it was a private message.
You advice is awesome! My MCAT was a 20- 8v, 6,6. No excuses other than I have testing accommodations and when I gathered the crazy list of stuff for Amcas they told me they were no longer accepting applications for the rest of the 2013 cycle. I figured I would try and take anyway as they still could have denied my request.
So- my mistakes were nerves and timing- I ran out of time on BS and Verbal. Scored 2-PTs lower than practice tests on both. PS was a different story- I scored 8-9 as highest and 5 lowest so prob pretty accurate rep, I also didn't have Time to spare and made mistakes on easy stuff. Hindsight is 20/20- can't fix what's done. My answer is that my MCAT doesn't reflect my true abilities. Not sure to share about the test accommodations issue- concerned they will see this as a negative. Perhaps just stating my anxiety was a factor as well as not having been able to take a course such as Kaplan? I would rather direct the conversation to a more positive direction and stress my ability to persevere and succeed by focusing on grades, utilizing resources from the office of cultural diversity, having community resources to assist with my son and family moving close by to assist me with the children.
You made excellent points and I appreciate it! I am sappy here but after working in the business world of healthcare, I can be professional too 🙂
Any questions about ethics or Obama Care?
Thanks! Corinn
Perhaps you disclosed this in another post, but, may I ask, are you URM? A 20 MCAT with an interview is insane (just so you know, I'm incredibly happy for you, and not being dismissive at all).
 
Let's get you some coaching help. I would omit pretty much everything in this paragraph as they hear it constantly and rather than discuss how bad you've wanted it you would do better to discuss what you've done to get here. From my experiences telling stories is nice but at the end of the day they're more interested in why you felt this call rather than how you've always felt it.

Docksan's advice is right on target, Cwhann. It's a wise a idea to scale back on the "hardship / I want it so bad" angle in your interview. It's cliche and doesn't really explain why you are going to make a competent physician someday. Prepare for your interview by being ready to explain how you got from point A in life to point B and why that makes you a good candidate. Telling them how bad you want it and what you had to go through doesn't do this. Best of luck!
 
Perhaps you disclosed this in another post, but, may I ask, are you URM? A 20 MCAT with an interview is insane (just so you know, I'm incredibly happy for you, and not being dismissive at all).
Yes URM and economically disadvantaged but decent gpa and Non trad with 3 kids, one with severe medical issues- gpa stayed high even during his numerous (over 13) hospitalizations.
 
Docksan's advice is right on target, Cwhann. It's a wise a idea to scale back on the "hardship / I want it so bad" angle in your interview. It's cliche and doesn't really explain why you are going to make a competent physician someday. Prepare for your interview by being ready to explain how you got from point A in life to point B and why that makes you a good candidate. Telling them how bad you want it and what you had to go through doesn't do this. Best of luck!
So elaborate on my extensive clinical and administrative experience as the focus on how my desire to become a physician has been reinforced from that?
 
So elaborate on my extensive clinical and administrative experience as the focus on how my desire to become a physician has been reinforced from that?

You can include things from your experience dealing with family illness, but I wouldn't make that illness the focus of your discussion. Rather, I would use it to describe how you know medicine is important and know what patients have go through because you lived it.

Remember, this is about you and how your experiences have shaped you. Talk less about the experiences and more about what you took away from them.


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You can include things from your experience dealing with family illness, but I wouldn't make that illness the focus of your discussion. Rather, I would use it to describe how you know medicine is important and know what patients have go through because you lived it.

Remember, this is about you and how your experiences have shaped you. Talk less about the experiences and more about what you took away from them.


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Once again solid gold from docksan. Follow it.
 
Anybody flying from Atlanta? I'm leaving today to avoid the snow storm. PM if you are from the SE and going to be around for a few days in Kansas
 
Anybody flying from Atlanta? I'm leaving today to avoid the snow storm. PM if you are from the SE and going to be around for a few days in Kansas

I'd be down to chill, but I'm only coming in Thursday night - Saturday night. If you want some recommendations: Westport has a great Indian lunch buffet called Taj Palace or dumplings at Blue Koi. I'm a vegetarian now, but Oklahoma Joe's is the best BBQ I've ever had inside a gas station! On Saturday/Sunday the River Market has a cool 4-story antique store, farmer's market, and Vietnamese Hien Vuong Restaurant. Or if you want to go shopping at the Plaza, check out Dim Sum at Bo Ling's: it's the best! I wish you best of luck on your interview.
 
Hi everyone,

I am also OOS. I am flying in from Texas for an interview this week! Anyone have any last minute insights or tips? Are the interviews pretty relaxed and more about getting to know the candidate? Or is it more structured with specific questions/scenarios? Any advice helps! Feel free to PM me if desired. Thanks!
 
I'd be down to chill, but I'm only coming in Thursday night - Saturday night. If you want some recommendations: Westport has a great Indian lunch buffet called Taj Palace or dumplings at Blue Koi. I'm a vegetarian now, but Oklahoma Joe's is the best BBQ I've ever had inside a gas station! On Saturday/Sunday the River Market has a cool 4-story antique store, farmer's market, and Vietnamese Hien Vuong Restaurant. Or if you want to go shopping at the Plaza, check out Dim Sum at Bo Ling's: it's the best! I wish you best of luck on your interview.
The Nelson-Atkins is great too!
 
The Nelson Atkins is showing some artifacts recovered by the Monuments Men I believe.

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Hi everyone,

I am also OOS. I am flying in from Texas for an interview this week! Anyone have any last minute insights or tips? Are the interviews pretty relaxed and more about getting to know the candidate? Or is it more structured with specific questions/scenarios? Any advice helps! Feel free to PM me if desired. Thanks!


I think it depends completely on who your interviewer is and how he/she wants to run things. KU in general hasn't laid out any specific questions they have to ask you or any structure the interview has to follow, that I saw or have heard of. Be prepared for some ACA/Obamacare discussion. Myself and several others I talked to had it come up. But my interviews, at least, were very conversational. Good luck!
 
I think it depends completely on who your interviewer is and how he/she wants to run things. KU in general hasn't laid out any specific questions they have to ask you or any structure the interview has to follow, that I saw or have heard of. Be prepared for some ACA/Obamacare discussion. Myself and several others I talked to had it come up. But my interviews, at least, were very conversational. Good luck!

I definitely didn't get any ethics or Obama care related stuff. I did get the why do you want to be an MD-
Also asked for specific examples of clinical experiences that really impacted my decision to pursue medicine. I gave one positive and one negative but explained the negative one to tie into how I could contribute to the field of medicine as an md.
Overall- seems like they are matching people with interviewers with similar backgrounds or interests. I may be in the wrong about this but I had several other people I met who noticed the same trend.
Best of luck to the OOS applicants! I know they are really reaching out to diversify their class, so if you're an URM or non traditional applicant try to stay positive!
 
Nope, I asked Jason and he said letters would be sent out
Thanks. They said in the email to those of us that interviewed on JAN10 that the letters would be sent out the week of Jan 17. Does anyone actually have any idea what day they intend to mail them? Since, I live in NC right now, I figure that I will receive some kind of a letter a couple of days after folks in Kansas. I'm trying to remember the last time I actually cared about snail mail.....maybe 10 years ago.
 
Last week the dean mentioned the committee hadn't gotten to the last block of Jan interviewees- (I think it was 29-31) so they would meet this Tuesday to go over those files. I'm guessing the letters for your block were delayed due to weather so prob this week you should get something.
 
I did call Jason today and he said that the last block of people who interviewed would not get a "hold" letter and should expect to hear by the latter part of March. Hope that helps everyone. I don't know about the previous block of interviews that were done in late and mid January. I would assume since they are behind on the files you may not get a hold letter either.. Best of luck to everyone!
Corinn


Last week the dean mentioned the committee hadn't gotten to the last block of Jan interviewees- (I think it was 29-31) so they would meet this Tuesday to go over those files. I'm guessing the letters for your block were delayed due to weather so prob this week you should get something.
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I did call Jason today and he said that the last block of people who interviewed would not get a "hold" letter and should expect to hear by the latter part of March. Hope that helps everyone. I don't know about the previous block of interviews that were done in late and mid January. I would assume since they are behind on the files you may not get a hold letter either.. Best of luck to everyone!
Corinn



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Team Corinn here!!!' You got this girl!!!! 🙂
 
Team Corinn here!!!' You got this girl!!!! 🙂
Thanks lady! I'm really just hoping for the chance at a post bacc invite because I know my MCAT was just too low to get a direct offer. Of course I don't expect to get postbacc but I would love the chance. Best wishes to all who interviewed and are waiting! I know there is still at least 60-80 slots left to fill.
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Wishing you luck as well.

Nothing yet from the first January group.

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Nothing today.

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Nothing today.

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Agh! I'm dying to hear the results for the dec and jan interviews! Hoping to see posts that some of you guys got an offer of admission! DocKSan especially you 🙂
 
Congrats to everyone on being accepted and good luck to those waiting! I am a 2nd year here at KU and would love to answer any questions or give advice when time permits.

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Good luck and get some rest before classes start this fall!
 
Rejected. Time to pull up the straps.

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Really sorry to hear that.
I'm so sorry!!!! I was really hoping to hear the opposite post. Sounds like you aren't giving up so please hang in there and take advantage of having the dean go over your application with you to see what you can do to increase your chances of admission
 
I got put on hold. What exactly does this mean for me? Do I have to wait until the end of March to the decision? Do I have a better chance of getting in than the people who still have to interview? I feel like this is a mean move. My anxiety has been slowly building for the past two weeks. I get my letter, my heart practically explodes, and it starts out by saying, "We are pleased..." and then I get put on hold. That's cold.
 
I got put on hold. What exactly does this mean for me? Do I have to wait until the end of March to the decision? Do I have a better chance of getting in than the people who still have to interview? I feel like this is a mean move. My anxiety has been slowly building for the past two weeks. I get my letter, my heart practically explodes, and it starts out by saying, "We are pleased..." and then I get put on hold. That's cold.
I have been on hold since November buddy :-/ yeah they so a conservative admission so only the best of the best gets accepted right away... And the worse of the worse gets rejected.... And us, in between folks... Wait until march.

I believe at this point everyone was interviews already. So on march we find out if we got axed, WL or accepted.

Hang on there ;-)
 
I have been on hold since November buddy :-/ yeah they so a conservative admission so only the best of the best gets accepted right away... And the worse of the worse gets rejected.... And us, in between folks... Wait until march.

I believe at this point everyone was interviews already. So on march we find out if we got axed, WL or accepted.

Hang on there ;-)
Some people got rejected already so while being on hold sucks, it does mean you have a chance of being accepted.
I have no idea where you will fall-it depends on your ranking in the committee. Points are given based off how the members score you- usually it's the interview that is make or break you unless you have a poor GPA or MCAT and no EC's. I can understand how frustrating the letter sounds though!
I can't imagine what the rejection letter looks like- probably pretty nice compared to other places.
Hang in there! Interviews are all done and the final letters will be sent out in a month
 
I was just accepted. I received the letter on Feb 20, 2014. I interviewed Jan 10th. My first interview was 5 minutes long (made me extremely worried since the first interview is with someone on the committee). My second went on for the full 30 minutes. Some stats if people are wondering: white male - 28 MCAT - 3.9 GPA - in-state.
 
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I got put on hold. What exactly does this mean for me? Do I have to wait until the end of March to the decision? Do I have a better chance of getting in than the people who still have to interview? I feel like this is a mean move. My anxiety has been slowly building for the past two weeks. I get my letter, my heart practically explodes, and it starts out by saying, "We are pleased..." and then I get put on hold. That's cold.

Hang in there. It should be less than a month before acceptances go out. I've been "on hold" since October
I was just accepted. I received the letter on Feb 20, 2014. I interviewed Jan 10th. My first interview was 5 minutes long (made me extremely worried since the first interview is with someone on the committee). My second went on for the full 30 minutes. Some stats if people are wondering: white male - 28 MCAT - 3.9 GPA - in-state.

Congratulations! But how was your interview only 5 minutes? Were they late? That's just shocking to me.
 
Hang in there. It should be less than a month before acceptances go out. I've been "on hold" since October


Congratulations! But how was your interview only 5 minutes? Were they late? That's just shocking to me.
Could be because he had a great application and answered all the questions they would have asked or they were sold on him prior. 28mCAt and 3.9 GPA is pretty solid so there usually isn't a lot of doubts about success academically. Congrats! Enjoy the success 🙂
 
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