Yeah retaking a score like that is tough. Probably not needed. At least volunteer hours are simple to accumulate!I asked over 20 schools for feedback that I applied to. 6 of them agreed to it, and only 4 were helpful (not generic).
Most said an MCAT retake is not essential, despite my 124 CARS (511 overall). They said my nonclinical volunteering could have more hours. So sometimes, what you think is the biggest issue is not always the biggest issue.
I have plenty of everything else, EC-wise, however. And I got 3 IIs. So I do not think I need to make any major changes. I am applying back-to-back cycles.
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The student who told me about this did say that Hofstra missed its mark pretty badly that year. This year, I'm assuming they were able to predict yield much better, irrespective of the CTE/PTE changes. Guessing from new additions to the facebook group, there have been at least 5-10 acceptances off the waitlist this year.Someone in the Hofstra thread said that 60% of the current M2 class was accepted off the waitlist. There has been only 2 reported acceptances after April 30th. So....
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Quantum Tunneling Effect
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The student who told me about this did say that Hofstra missed its mark pretty badly that year. This year, I'm assuming they were able to predict yield much better, irrespective of the CTE/PTE changes. Guessing from new additions to the facebook group, there have been at least 5-10 acceptances off the waitlist this year.
Hofstra has been taking people off the waitlist. I was really hoping there will be a large wave of delayed waitlist movement in June/July. 🙁So I guess I just have to move on with the new cycle then. Thank you for sharing and you are infinitely more helpful than the admission staff I talked to over the phone. I got some kind of closure, even when it is not the news I would like to hear. Thank you!
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@ginsengreset, would you be able to tell me how many students are in that FB group? I know Hofstra's class size is 99. Thank you!
@ginsengreset, would you be able to tell me how many students are in that FB group? I know Hofstra's class size is 99. Thank you!
Keep in mind those pages often have 2nd 3rd and 4th years in it to as mentors, etc.
130, only 4 of whom are current students. However, there are a LOT of students who have withdrawn but still remain in the FB group.Hofstra has been taking people off the waitlist. I was really hoping there will be a large wave of delayed waitlist movement in June/July. 🙁So I guess I just have to move on with the new cycle then. Thank you for sharing and you are infinitely more helpful than the admission staff I talked to over the phone. I got some kind of closure, even when it is not the news I would like to hear. Thank you!
The waitlist movement of this cycle went as well as season 8 of Game of Thrones...
So I just finished season 8... and your assessment is correct
PeanutArbuckle
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2018: tAkE a gAp yEaRAnd here comes another disappointing week! Can't wait xD
2019: oops lmao
Quantum Tunneling Effect
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Hopefully, I will have better luck next cycle because I will have a better story (personal statement).So I just finished season 8... and your assessment is correct
AlphaDoctor
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A few CTE dates on June 15th, hopefully that means movement this week
Long time lurker who has been commiserating with ya'll. Figured I'd make an account to share that I was accepted off my one and only waitlist recently, to my dream school!! Big time reinventor here so feel free to shoot me a message for more info/anecdotal suggestions Best of luck to those still waiting, you're all gonna make the best docs one day!
Congrats long time listener, first time callerLong time lurker who has been commiserating with ya'll. Figured I'd make an account to share that I was accepted off my one and only waitlist recently, to my dream school!! Big time reinventor here so feel free to shoot me a message for more info/anecdotal suggestions Best of luck to those still waiting, you're all gonna make the best docs one day!
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Can you share how you reinvent yourself to become more competitive? Thank you!Long time lurker who has been commiserating with ya'll. Figured I'd make an account to share that I was accepted off my one and only waitlist recently, to my dream school!! Big time reinventor here so feel free to shoot me a message for more info/anecdotal suggestions Best of luck to those still waiting, you're all gonna make the best docs one day!
Also, congrats and well-deserved!
hey everyone, I am trying to compile a list of CTE deadlines. Anyways if you know of or interviewed at any school follow the link and upload the dates. Directions are attached. This is a list of nearly every medical school from MSAR (except texas schools, sorry but feel free to add them as well) and I am trying to get all the deadlines in one place.
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If you don’t have access to a committee or advisor you can request assistance from NAAHP. Here’s the link:I talked to a couple of places but they either wouldn't talk to me because I'm waitlisted or they told me to talk to my school's pre-med committee, which doesn't exist.
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Was accepted last week off one of my waitlists and am super stoked! PTE’d and was typing my withdrawal from my other waitlist this morning when They called and accepted me?! Ah the timing. Surprised and bless to now have options when it’s mid June. The waitlists are moving so keep your heads up! Hoping one of you gets my soon to be open seat 🙂
Congratulations!! May I ask which school?Was accepted last week off one of my waitlists and am super stoked! PTE’d and was typing my withdrawal from my other waitlist this morning when They called and accepted me?! Ah the timing. Surprised and bless to now have options when it’s mid June. The waitlists are moving so keep your heads up! Hoping one of you gets my soon to be open seat 🙂
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What a nice way to end a drawn-out application cycle!Was accepted last week off one of my waitlists and am super stoked! PTE’d and was typing my withdrawal from my other waitlist this morning when They called and accepted me?! Ah the timing. Surprised and bless to now have options when it’s mid June. The waitlists are moving so keep your heads up! Hoping one of you gets my soon to be open seat 🙂

Congratulations!! May I ask which school?
Louisville!
Do schools just want you to PTE now or go ahead and CTE?Louisville!
PTE until the CTE dateDo schools just want you to PTE now or go ahead and CTE?
so I guess July really is going to be crazy if that is the expectation.PTE until the CTE date
That’s what everyone seems to be saying. Not really sure. I personally don’t think there would be a ton of movement that late. I wouldn’t expect the schools to put themselves in a position to have to scramble like that. Then again, that’s just my thoughts. I would think most schools have slightly overaccepted at this point, expecting a few students to leave.so I guess July really is going to be crazy if that is the expectation.
why just PTE if you are sure its your number 1 choice?PTE until the CTE date
well i need them to put themselves in said position.That’s what everyone seems to be saying. Not really sure. I personally don’t think there would be a ton of movement that late. I wouldn’t expect the schools to put themselves in a position to have to scramble like that. Then again, that’s just my thoughts. I would think most schools have slightly overaccepted at this point, expecting a few students to leave.
I hear ya!well i need them to put themselves in said position.
NOICE!Accepted this morning! Good bye alternate list.
Congrats! Where are you headed?Accepted this morning! Good bye alternate list.
Creighton somCongrats! Where are you headed?
Nice! Great schoolCreighton som
Congrats!!! Are you committing to UK or UofL?Was accepted last week off one of my waitlists and am super stoked! PTE’d and was typing my withdrawal from my other waitlist this morning when They called and accepted me?! Ah the timing. Surprised and bless to now have options when it’s mid June. The waitlists are moving so keep your heads up! Hoping one of you gets my soon to be open seat 🙂
I think the key word there is “mostly.” Also people are still getting off waitlists will cause them to leave other spots open at other schools as long as they have other acceptances.Can someone explain to me again how CTE deadlines will affect waitlist movement? Cause I still don't get it. If all classes are full (probably true at this point) and no one is holding multiple acceptances (probably mostly true at this point), every PTE should turn into a CTE and we should see no waitlist movement. I don't see a mechanism for any more movement than the usual trickle coming from people withdrawing from every school altogether to occur.
Because, some schools will tell a person to Commit by their deadline or lose their spot. If half the class is carrying the PTE designation only and are too passive, then the seats will be openCan someone explain to me again how CTE deadlines will affect waitlist movement? Cause I still don't get it. If all classes are full (probably true at this point) and no one is holding multiple acceptances (probably mostly true at this point), every PTE should turn into a CTE and we should see no waitlist movement. I don't see a mechanism for any more movement than the usual trickle coming from people withdrawing from every school altogether to occur.
not every school is using the CTE/PTE tool, there fore if a student CTE/PTE they have to drop off of those schools, there are atleast 10 schools that I have found not using the tool, thus around 1000 students that could still be sitting on more than 1 acceptance, essencially you could hold an acceptance at 1 school that has PTE and one that does not depending on each individual school requirements. also dropping off waitlists makes them shorter and thus more likely that a student will get in.Can someone explain to me again how CTE deadlines will affect waitlist movement? Cause I still don't get it. If all classes are full (probably true at this point) and no one is holding multiple acceptances (probably mostly true at this point), every PTE should turn into a CTE and we should see no waitlist movement. I don't see a mechanism for any more movement than the usual trickle coming from people withdrawing from every school altogether to occur.
Can someone explain to me again how CTE deadlines will affect waitlist movement? Cause I still don't get it. If all classes are full (probably true at this point) and no one is holding multiple acceptances (probably mostly true at this point), every PTE should turn into a CTE and we should see no waitlist movement. I don't see a mechanism for any more movement than the usual trickle coming from people withdrawing from every school altogether to occur.
Also, the TMDSAS (Texas schools) are separate. Should a student get accepted into their program, they may then drop their PTE or CTE. This would add some movement.
I will never put it past Premeds to be lazy.Because, some schools will tell a person to Commit by their deadline or lose their spot. If half the class is carrying the PTE designation only and are too passive, then the seats will be open
Is it bad that I have not contacted my waitlist school just to check in since beginning of May?
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Can someone explain to me again how CTE deadlines will affect waitlist movement? Cause I still don't get it. If all classes are full (probably true at this point) and no one is holding multiple acceptances (probably mostly true at this point), every PTE should turn into a CTE and we should see no waitlist movement. I don't see a mechanism for any more movement than the usual trickle coming from people withdrawing from every school altogether to occur.
I wonder how true it is that no one is holding multiple acceptances. Even if it is mostly true, that's going to open a lot of seats once people have to commit to a single school (which doesn't even appear to be the case with CTE). With schools being slow with some financial aid packages, I could easily see that number being impactful. I know for a fact one of my WL schools hasn't released scholarship info yet. It stinks, but I don't blame applicants for waiting to know what the true COA is going to be before making a decision. Applicants also try to get schools to match scholarship offers which may take a lot of time. There was just a school X vs school Y post on the sub reddit.
Congrats!!! Are you committing to UK or UofL?
I'm not sure, mulling it over... Will update ya pending lots of stress and pro/con lists
@gyngyn what are your thoughts about this? I have been wondering the same thingCan someone explain to me again how CTE deadlines will affect waitlist movement? Cause I still don't get it. If all classes are full (probably true at this point) and no one is holding multiple acceptances (probably mostly true at this point), every PTE should turn into a CTE and we should see no waitlist movement. I don't see a mechanism for any more movement than the usual trickle coming from people withdrawing from every school altogether to occur.
As none of the current designations (CTE, PTE) are enforced by the AAMC, and because many schools are still trying to figure out out how they will require students to use them, it is entirely likely that there will be spots opened up by students who are accepted off a waitlist that open up a spot at a (previously) filled school.@gyngyn what are your thoughts about this? I have been wondering the same thing
@gyngyn ,
Are most schools at this point at a 1:1 ratio for pulling students off the waitlist when an accepted student drops their acceptance?
Are most schools at this point at a 1:1 ratio for pulling students off the waitlist when an accepted student drops their acceptance?
Many are still hoping for more withdrawals to hit their target class size. This is what is messing up my prediction of a dramatic June increase in WL action.@gyngyn ,
Are most schools at this point at a 1:1 ratio for pulling students off the waitlist when an accepted student drops their acceptance?
Many are still hoping for more withdrawals to hit their target class size. This is what is messing up my prediction of a dramatic June increase in WL action.
Dang it. Med schools need to get a wee bit bigger.
Many are still hoping for more withdrawals to hit their target class size. This is what is messing up my prediction of a dramatic June increase in WL action.
Have you re-evaluated your previous conjecture? When should we expect WL movement en masse?

The UC has plans to dramatically increase class sizes...if only find the Regents would approve the $.Dang it. Med schools need to get a wee bit bigger.
It looks more like slow and consistent now.Have you re-evaluated your previous conjecture? When should we expect WL movement en masse?![]()
but at least it is moving, I was very worried a few weeks ago when my school did not accept anyone for a 7 day periodIt looks more like slow and consistent now.
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I wonder how true it is that no one is holding multiple acceptances. Even if it is mostly true, that's going to open a lot of seats once people have to commit to a single school (which doesn't even appear to be the case with CTE). With schools being slow with some financial aid packages, I could easily see that number being impactful. I know for a fact one of my WL schools hasn't released scholarship info yet. It stinks, but I don't blame applicants for waiting to know what the true COA is going to be before making a decision. Applicants also try to get schools to match scholarship offers which may take a lot of time. There was just a school X vs school Y post on the sub reddit.
I know someone holding two acceptances, tho it will be one by the end of the week. Also, the person accepted a few posts above, has 2 acceptances it at the moment, so things are still fluid.
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