4GGoat About It (GGoats 4) - GAME THREAD (Day 6)

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Sorry I had an autistic meltdown because these past two weeks at work have required a lot more masking than I usually do and I just reached a point where I needed to go shut off for a while. I’m sorry for bringing that into this game, and I apologize for acting like a jerk.
I, too, am tired, and I am going to get some sleep.

Have a good night.
 
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Brotha I was sleeping
@katiemcat are you stuffing people full of ziti?
No, that’s something I would do IRL tho.
It would be a hilarious cult.

I don't know. After all the vanilla flips and the seemingly pointless night items (the gun is the only one I didn't get, which is very funny), I had assumed this game was secretly mountainous.

What do you think?
It’s time for me to say I think that the people who didn’t receive a gun aren’t vanilla and the guns did have a chance of working, just a very very low one.
I don’t think there’s a cult. I think Katie is a village arsonist ziti-making Nona and wolves just sacrificed zenge for misguided reasons.
I am indeed a village arsonist as I declared. The ziti stuff isn’t me though.
Sorry I had an autistic meltdown because these past two weeks at work have required a lot more masking than I usually do and I just reached a point where I needed to go shut off for a while. I’m sorry for bringing that into this game, and I apologize for acting like a jerk.
It’s ok
So, are we assuming this is a pair of wolves plus 3p cult scenario?
That’s my assumption, yes
 
I actually don’t understand what you’re saying here. Can you please explain to me?
Like I said I don’t think w!genny starts the wagon on Zenge. I don’t think I would’ve moved if she hadn’t said what she did (not the ATE).

If she was truly looking for village cred she would’ve held on Zenge while being like “guys idk…” but instead she got emotional and left for me. Zenge saw this as an opportunity to get rid of me but thankfully no one took the bait. I really wanted you to jump on Zenge after he posts that with less hesitation like the others.
 
I don’t think I was arguing. I’m trying to explain how you’re misinterpreting things I’ve done in the game.

At a minimum could you look at the third point? You seem like you made a point about me defending Zenge, but it was actually a question about genny.
I pulled the wrong quote instead of your reaction to my POE. I don’t think that changes anything for me I’m afraid.
 
Like I said I don’t think w!genny starts the wagon on Zenge. I don’t think I would’ve moved if she hadn’t said what she did (not the ATE).
Who do you think w!genny starts the wagon on at that point? Clearly you wasn't going to work. The entire discussion had been centered around Zenge and her, and trying to start a different wagon would be equally outing.
If she was truly looking for village cred she would’ve held on Zenge while being like “guys idk…” but instead she got emotional and left for me. Zenge saw this as an opportunity to get rid of me but thankfully no one took the bait. I really wanted you to jump on Zenge after he posts that with less hesitation like the others.
Getting emotional is not AI, and me not moving my vote in response to an ATE is also not AI specifically for me. I'm going to pull some evidence for that, and I'd appreciate if you could at least consider it.
 
Who do you think w!genny starts the wagon on at that point? Clearly you wasn't going to work. The entire discussion had been centered around Zenge and her, and trying to start a different wagon would be equally outing.

Getting emotional is not AI, and me not moving my vote in response to an ATE is also not AI specifically for me. I'm going to pull some evidence for that, and I'd appreciate if you could at least consider it.
There were much easier misyeets such as CG, RDR, sov she could have planted seeds for early on and she didn’t.

I’m not saying you’re a wolf bc you didn’t move in response to gennys outburst. I’m saying you’re a wolf bc you didn’t immediately move after Zenges bogus iso of me like the other villagers
 
I have a firm belief that players who either self-vote or threaten to rage-quit are more often than not scum. But even if they are not, I don't change my opinion based on these actions because they are not AI. I can provide the following example from my MU game where I did that when pinguslanked self-voted as town, and I was town. I voted there in a heartbeat. See #2148

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/60893-Role-Madness-(with-the-quotes)-Semi-Invitational?p=10863056#post10863056

This is why I kept my vote on rae. This is why I preferred to keep my vote on genny. If you want to find me a wolf otherwise, you can make a case, but I wish it would not be because I didn’t move off of a vote I believed in fast enough. My hesitancy to move off genny is completely, 100%, NAI.

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Like if I’m in your village blocc how does that post not scream wolf to you?
As I explained at the time, I think it is just both Zenge and genny. I was coming out of dinner with the family and trying to figure out how to spend time with my kids while also figuring out all of the craziness happening, and also figuring out how to respond to ATE. I'll be honest, I never read the ridiculous ISO because I was doing too many other things at the time.

I don't think it's fair to call me a wolf because I didn't change my preference of which wolf to vote out first quickly enough 🙁
 
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There were much easier misyeets such as CG, RDR, sov she could have planted seeds for early on and she didn’t.
I don't think there was any universe in which those three would be a wagon yesterday.

Both genny and Zenge had to know the "why are you still alive" question was going to come up. The only way to answer that question was by still having players like you and me alive at the time as misyeet bait.
 
I have a firm belief that players who either self-vote or threaten to rage-quit are more often than not scum. But even if they are not, I don't change my opinion based on these actions because they are not AI. I can provide the following example from my MU game where I did that when pinguslanked self-voted as town, and I was town. I voted there in a heartbeat. See #2148

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/60893-Role-Madness-(with-the-quotes)-Semi-Invitational?p=10863056#post10863056

This is why I kept my vote on rae. This is why I preferred to keep my vote on genny. If you want to find me a wolf otherwise, you can make a case, but I wish it would not be because I didn’t move off of a vote I believed in fast enough. My hesitancy to move off genny is completely, 100%, NAI.
FWIW, I'm also just a very stubborn villager when I have a vote I believe in. In Ten I refused to move off Clem onto a basically outed player because I was convinced I was on another wolf wagon (I was not, lol, but that's besides the point):


So again, my point is my refusal to move off of genny last night was NAI. Because she is also a wolf, IMO.

Anyways. I get the sense I'm not gonna get a response, but I have to keep trying.

Going out with the family probably not be back for a good long while.
 
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It’s cool out so all the animals are out!
 
Assuming I don't catch a vig tonight (which would just, of course, be how this game ends for me, lol), I would appreciate if everyone still alive would please at least listen to my arguments tomorrow 🙂

Hope everyone is having a good day!
 
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i haven’t played with cults before can someone give me the “WW for dummies” scoop on them?
 
i am kind of surprised just from a numbers perspective that we have made it this far into the game before we even get an inkling about a cult? like my basic understanding is people are recruited, does that show when people flip?