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[Animal Midwife]

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Did we determine then who Dina looked at N5?

She said she was looking at Trilt.

 

[Lupin21]

Exactly. haha

 

[samac]

She said she was looking at Trilt.

Trilt said she wasn’t looked at chaos said he was, either they’re somehow working to lie together?
or she looked at chaos. And someone else looked at me who won’t identify themselves. Cause they woof.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Trilt said she wasn’t looked at chaos said he was, either they’re somehow working to lie together?
or she looked at chaos. And someone else looked at me who won’t identify themselves. Cause they woof.

Or Trilt is lying. Or people don't give notifications when they die in the process.

 

[samac]

Or Trilt is lying. Or people don't give notifications when they die in the process.

Then chaos is likely lying too.
or Lawpy is lying too.
Chaos was watched the day I had camera.
Mayo was watched and had camera.
Lawpy claimed camera last night.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Then chaos is likely lying too.
or Lawpy is lying too.
Chaos was watched the day I had camera.
Mayo was watched and had camera.
Lawpy claimed camera last night.

Where are you getting that these other people are lying from my previous two examples? Why are these more likely then Trilt straight-up lying or no seering occurring at all? Why is the grand assumption that Dina lied at baseline?

 

[supershorty]

Okay, I looked at MsP's posts too. There are some interactions with Zenge that I had initially written off as w/v, but that was before we knew that this pack was apparently perfectly happy to start throwing mud at each other early. These interactions still could be w/v, but they could just as easily be staged w/w. I'd buy these being w/w over Zenge's interactions with jaboo, for example. MsP had correct wolf reads on Cyndia and alley, but her VCA overall is a bit of a mystery without knowing what please is. MsP's read on Zenge suddenly flipped from D1 to D2, seemingly just based on what April was saying.

I feel like there could be a wolf between Cray and MsP, but between Cray's heavy push to yeet a neutral instead of wolf hunt and MsP's interactions with Zenge and evolution of her POI/voting history, I'm not sure which one is more likely.

Spoiler

Zenge/MsP interactions

I just realized MsP is playing this game. I probably would have been blissfully unaware too, until 5 minutes to yeet close when she comes on with a flurry of posts to meet requirements, a suspicious amount of thread knowledge, and vote to make a tie. I’m not sure my stomach lining can take the chaos that is MsP.

UNYEET AM
YEET MsP

Yes. Who came on 5 minutes to close and intentionally tried to make a tie to yeet two villagers.

If she comes on and actually posts before just 5 minutes to close I’ll move my vote, but I want to put pressure here early.

I mean, if I come up with something better I’ll go for it, but I’m never going to be okay with MsP lurking in the background and coming on at the last minute to cause chaos. I’m not sure why anyone would be.

@Ms Procrastinator I see you’re here, and you’re reacting to posts. Do you want to post anything? Thoughts maybe? Recipe for muffins? Anything?

I'm reading through the thread and catching up. Chill

Couple noteworthy things in this single post:

Hey! I'm not that chaotic. What do you mean by "suspicious amount of thread knowledge"? I was village that game. Since I was village that game your reasoning for voting me because of how I played previously is kind of flawed. You're obviously not aiming for a wolf.

This was in response to Zenge. I read it as villagey at the time. Now knowing the amount of bussing and deepwolfing that's happened in this game, I'm not sure I can write it off that easily.

Bussing a wolf D1, especially AM kinda seems crazy (for lack of a better word)

This JUST happened in the last game that MsP played (last game as far as I know. She didn't play GGoats and this happened in Basics).

I'm reading through the thread and catching up. Chill

It very well could be wolf!MsP. I don’t know.

My vote was to apply pressure and try to get her to post literally anything, just so we didn’t have a repeat of basics where she comes on 5 minutes to close, like a tornado, causes chaos, and votes to make a tie, yeeting two villagers. It didn’t end up happening but it was razor thin. Literally the only way determine her affiliation ended up being to misyeet her, and that’s not really a recipe for success.

Now that she’s making an effort to post, I’m satisfied that my pressure yielded results. I’m not clearing her by any means, I’d certainly like to see more, but I was always going to try and move my vote later on to a more wolfy candidate, as opposed to just a decidedly anti-village one.

When you're confused about a player you've played once with it's always best to ask other people how they have played before or look at other games they've played before. It's illogical to base their affiliation on just one game.

I'm thinking one of the people on your salt vote wagon could potentially be wolf. It's a great excuse. Was waiting on more people to pop up to see what stands out so I could put together more reads. Anyway, I didn't think much of Lupin saying April was town. Took it with a grain of salt since it's literally D1 and there's no way for her to be that sure. I agree with your Lawpy village read so far. Not mad at Zenge's yeet on me. He wasn't wolf hunting, but his logic for wanting to get rid of a chaotic player that could sway yeet regardless of affiliation makes sense.

Here's MsP's first reads list:

Finally caught up!

Lawpy- Is giving very village vibes. Love the post quantity and quality, especially the tinfoils. A tinfoily lawpy is often a village Lawpy.

Pleasy (is this vetschoolspleaseletmein?)- Wolfy pleasy apparently over explains. Way too over explainy on why they're cool with yeeting me. Kinda sus. It's giving me "Well y'all I'd do it if it came down to it" vibes. Cool with voting me but hasn't asked me any substantial questions.

Lupin- That whole april thing was weird. Even if the second poster was statistically village it was still weird to just blurt on thread. Still, Lupin is a darn good wolf. She really wouldn't mess up like that. Lupin is a good wolf so I'm very wary of her.

Shorty- Has some strong reads. I like them so far.

MKG- Something pinged off about an AM salt vote they made earlier.

Genny- AM thinks she's playing up her anxiety which she's done twice as a wolf. I think the AM/Genny interaction definitely has a wolf in there. If AM got confirmed village, I think I'd vote genny.

Zenge- Really liked their reasoning for my and genny's vote. I don't think they seem opportunistic as genny put it.

Alissa- She seems very echoey. @alissa14 who else besides me and AM do you think is wolfy. It seems weird that you put everyone else as village or neutral, but put only me and AM as wolves. It seems like you're just going off of what other people say. Who else pings you as wolfy.

I don't have a grasp on April ATM. maybe it's the swift run through. I need to look closer into her.

Also, I've been over this a thousand times in a thousand games. My post count is NAI. Me posting more is indicative of my affiliation. My countless deaths prove that.


AM is usually always on my case, but there are times when she's chill. Her not breathing down my neck a little slightly worries me, but I get a good vibe from her so far.

The Zenge read is interesting.

Two of my POEs flipped village yesterday and last night so I'm gonna have to look harder at some of the village reads I had earlier. I still thinks there's a wolf between AM and genny. I have some essays I have to get started on but I'll be around sometime in the evening.

Now it's Day 2 and MsP's changed her tune on Zenge.

Pawprints: Just showed up right before yeet close and throws out yeet without reason. Never played with her, but shorty says she gives her feels. Her yeet on me 40 minutes before yeet close just seems weird. I feel like she expected it to get the ball rolling on a mass yeet. Her reason for voting me because of my post activity makes no sense. No wolf read on anyone else. No reads list that I can see. Came up with poor reads. Shorty rubbed her the wrong way by asking for reads but she doesn’t think she’s wolf???

Sporty: I’m crap at reading sporty. She seems to be flying under the radar. That’s not good.

Mayo: Idek. Weirdly unyeeted kata saying they hadn’t seen a good argument for them, but they weren’t even on kata. Even if they were on kata why would you yeet her if you didn’t see a reason to.

Genny: threw shade at both AM and April saying their whole thing on thread makes her not want to lean any of them village. April flipped green and I do believe there is a wolf between genny and AM and Genny’s looking more like the wolf.

Trilt: raising an eyebrow at genny leaning Lupin as village so soon in the game. Share her sentiments about Lupin. She’s a strong wolf so I’m very weary of her.


Alleycat: mentioned she won’t be around for yeet and yeets alissa. Barks was on here saying she felt hedgy. Will ISO and reasses her reads. Feeling neutral

Viscernable: Shares my sentiments that people put together pre-planned excuses to vote for people which is why I was cool with voting pleasy yesterday. Cool with adding Zenge to my world reads now that my other wolf reads didn’t work out.

Shorty: Calls for other players to speak. Like trying to call vis on thread to get some discussion going. Seems to be playing really village. Mentions the thread getting cluttered because people are posting about things from older pages which don’t reflect current game state.

Zenge: That whole over explain MsP thing. Lurked at yeet close. April felt off about them said it felt like their wolf meta.

Jboo: Need more.

Lupin: Hard to read for me. Sharing trilt’s philosophy of leaving her in neutral (more like neutral to slightly wolf) until she’s dead. She will at no point in this game earn a village reading from me.

Chaos:seemed present for a bit. Liked their take away. Think sunny was vigged or at least killed by 3p
Cray: Seems to have some good village play so far with the whole not wanting to help wolves 3p hunt and all that.

Pleasy: still on my naughty list. Did not like that switch from genny to zenge. It felt weird. Genny offers up some reads and they’re fine with switching to zenge just like that? No questions asked? They seem to ask questions AFTER the switch instead of before and that really pings me wrong.

POE
Genny
Zenge
Pleasy
Kata
Cyndia
Sporty

Highlighted this because it's not really what April said - none of us had seen wolf!Zenge before this game, April had just raised the possibility because his play/tone seemed different from previous games.

First POI post:

Alley- Defended pleasy saying she thinks that it’s just “pleasy being pleasy”. She says pleasy tends to have a lot of fluffy, but that later on she usually posts questions on thread and contributes. April mentioned that fluffy pleasy tended to be wolfy. Her reasons for having AM as wolfy is because AM apparently tricked a lot of people before and people are saying that AM has been saucier. If Am flips village and Pleasy flips wolf, it would be wise to go after alley.

Lis- A longtime player. They seem okay so far and I think the others who’ve played with her would have called her out if they noticed something odd. Her reads seem solid so far.

Dina- Is playing okay so far. I get a lot of village vibes from her based on some of the comments she made about holding on to votes last minute being anti-village.

Cyndia- defended genny right out (off?) the bat. She doesn’t post that much and I don’t think her posts are adding anything of value to the thread. Some stuff seems a bit fluffy.

Next POE:

POI
Genny
Zenge Flipped woof
Pleasy
Kata
Cyndia
Sporty
Vis
Alley

Then shortly after, said she was moving please to neutral:

I'm not dropping anyone until they're dead. Sporty and genny are hard to read for me. I'm putting pleasy neutral.

Here's the next POI:

Cyndia- Feel kinda weird about her whole whole wolf hunting thing. A good portion of who she’s called have basically all flipped village (april, alissa) and seems all over the place. Her sporty read disappeared just as fast as it appeared. Now she’s on pawprints?
Sporty- Put zenge closer to being yeeted day.
Alley- not much in the way of posts, barely any at all. Something about her response to finding zenge in the lead feels off. Why did she even yeet pleasy? She had pleasy village all game. Then she said her posts were feeling off and was confused about where to put her. She had zenge as a wolf read and pleasy as confused. So why yeet pleasy over zenge? She yeeted pleasy at 7:56 breaking the tie between her and zenge. When zenge was exposed, she went on the zenge wagon in the last minute. She hasn’t posted since Thursday.
Vis-Put into words what I couldn’t about the zenge/pleasy thing with me. Seemed to focus more on zenge than pleasy. If she and Cyndia flip wolf she’d be a supreme busser cause she had cyndia as a wolf too. She said she read both Cyndia and genny as wolf, but then she also said she had a theory that AM and zenge were powerwolfing and AM tried to pocket lawpy. So she thought Genny and AM were both wolf and bussing each other? Tried to cast doubt on the Zenge vote because it was “catching on too quickly” and yeeted pleasy. Of course she then hoped on last minute when the seering bit came out.

I'm kinda busy but I'll be back around 7:30 or so. Just wanted to get some stuff out.

Pleasy- Their reads list is off to me. Everyone is saying that they couldn’t possibly be wolf because of vis’s vote. I still think they tried to get the least powerful (PR wise) wolf yeeted because there were three of them in danger before the zenge reveal. Their reads list doesn’t help me read them any less wolf. Why doesn’t vis even make the reads list? I’m cool with dying in this tinfoil.

Kata- Barely posts.Posts don’t really have that much substance, Seems to not be on thread much and in danger of not meeting minimum

Sporty- Put zenge closer to being yeeted day 1. She was on both zenge and visc thursday. Her vis vote (before zenge reveal) doesn’t fit in with my pleasy/vis/zenge theory. She couldn’t be a part of the pack. Her votes are looking good so far.

Both vis and alley reacted weirdly to the zenge reveal, but I want vis flipped more Yeet Visc

Not sure why Cyndia and alley both disappeared from the POI. There's no explanation prior to this post as to why she'd remove them.

POI
Previous reads stand for all except kata/samac

Paws (not that one)-see previous reads. Never really been impressed with their reads list.
Kata/Samac. Kata was doing pretty horribly and Samac is playing differently so that is slightly off putting.
Cyndia- I feel it's kinda weird that she was silenced right after she was restricted yesterday, but she does give a lot of feels from previous plays.
Mayo- previous reads plus slight feels.
Pleasy-My zenge, vis, pleasy pack thing fell through.

Yeet Paws

Explain clearly

I presented multiple POIs with her in it and explained why she's in it. I voted her yesterday and I'm cool with parking it here today.

Tiny detail, but pawprints was only in 1 of her POI posts. She was mentioned earlier in a bigger reads post, but never seemed to make it into the POI even though MsP seemed a little sus of her.

Looking back at the VCA:

Alley was the only flipped wolf on zenge so far. Cyndia never followed suit even though he was outed. She stayed on genny.
Alley was also on please before switching to zenge when he was outed (D3)
Alley never hopped back on please (D4)


I don't think that means much based on VCA lawps.
Cyndia did bus (sort of) alley ( her vote she tied her up with kata/samac)
Cyndia went on Paws when she was in danger. The other viable contender would have been samac, but she didn't go for samac she went for paws. She did this with both Alley and Paws
So far flipped wolves seemed to more or less avoid paws and please even though a lot of people had them in POEs

These 2 sentences don't make a lot of sense together.

 

[samac]

Where are you getting that these other people are lying from my previous two examples? Why are these more likely then Trilt straight-up lying or no seering occurring at all? Why is the grand assumption that Dina lied at baseline?

Just because of action economy, unless there are stil 3 observer roles, and the fact that the night that I had cameras on me chaos was claiming he was watched. Maybe Dina just changed her mind, but that would mean both trilt and chaos are likely both lying.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Just because of action economy, unless there are stil 3 observer roles, and the fact that the night that I had cameras on me chaos was claiming he was watched. Maybe Dina just changed her mind, but that would mean both trilt and chaos are likely both lying.

She changed her mind to seer someone she already had listed as village? Are you sure about that?

 

[Crayola227]

I think it's vastly unfair to act like I'm not trying to wolf hunt, just because I'm responding to incorrect notions about the dangers of 3P.

It doesn't look like you need my help to yeet Please and work through the POE so far.

I'm happy to discuss any player, especially not mayo because as far as I'm concerned that question is settled. Vote how you like but don't act like you know his wincon and it's safe because you don't know that for sure.

I'm also interested in MsP, samac, Chaos, Trilt, and I would always like to hear more from LIS and Lupes.

 

[Crayola227]

I'm absolutely willing to bet at least one player is wolf that bussed early and heavily and has so far been cleared by such a vote on a wolf.

 

[Lupin21]

I think it's vastly unfair to act like I'm not trying to wolf hunt, just because I'm responding to incorrect notions about the dangers of 3P.

It doesn't look like you need my help to yeet Please and work through the POE so far.

I'm happy to discuss any player, especially not mayo because as far as I'm concerned that question is settled. Vote how you like but don't act like you know his wincon and it's safe because you don't know that for sure.

I'm also interested in MsP, samac, Chaos, Trilt, and I would always like to hear more from LIS and Lupes.

I'm pretty sure I am top poster currently, so what more would you like from me?!

 

[samac]

She changed her mind to seer someone she already had listed as village? Are you sure about that?

I guess were going in circles that would land on trilt and chaos both lying for some reason.

 

[samac]

I'm absolutely willing to bet at least one player is wolf that bussed early and heavily and has so far been cleared by such a vote on a wolf.

i absolutely agree with you there.

 

[Animal Midwife]

I guess were going in circles that would land on trilt and chaos both lying for some reason.

I just don't get why they'd both be lying and why lying absolutely is happening at all.

 

[samac]

I just don't get why they'd both be lying and why lying absolutely is happening at all.

the night Dina died.
I got camera‘d that night.
chaos got watched.
trilt got nothing.
so one of those on me or chaos was dina.
the fact that Lawpy is claiming cameras last night leans me toward Dina being the one who looked at chaos.

edited to add so either trilt is lying about not getting anything, chaos is lying about being watched, or Dina changed her mind that night and looked at me or chaos.

am I making sense to anyone else?

 

[Lupin21]

the night Dina died.
I got camera‘d that night.
chaos got watched.
trilt got nothing.
so one of those on me or chaos was dina.
the fact that Lawpy is claiming cameras last night leans me toward Dina being the one who looked at chaos.

edited to add so either trilt is lying about not getting anything, chaos is lying about being watched, or Dina changed her mind that night and looked at me or chaos.

am I making sense to anyone else?

yah. That's why based on description, we, I think know which one correlates with Dina now, which sounds like it was Chaos's description. Mayo should be able to confirm.

 

[samac]

yah. That's why based on description, we I think know which one correlates with Dina now, which sounds like it was Chaos's description. Mayo should be able to confirm.

Agreed.

 

[Lawpy]

And we're behind

 

[Lawpy]

the night Dina died.
I got camera‘d that night.
chaos got watched.
trilt got nothing.
so one of those on me or chaos was dina.
the fact that Lawpy is claiming cameras last night leans me toward Dina being the one who looked at chaos.

edited to add so either trilt is lying about not getting anything, chaos is lying about being watched, or Dina changed her mind that night and looked at me or chaos.

am I making sense to anyone else?

I'm confused where Trouts came into play here. What if dina decided to seer chaos?

 

[samac]

I'm confused where Trouts came into play here. What if dina decided to seer chaos?

I think she did decide to seer Chaos.

AM mentioned Dina told her she was going to seer trout.
edit: it’s the first post on this page.

 

[Animal Midwife]

the night Dina died.
I got camera‘d that night.
chaos got watched.
trilt got nothing.
so one of those on me or chaos was dina.
the fact that Lawpy is claiming cameras last night leans me toward Dina being the one who looked at chaos.

edited to add so either trilt is lying about not getting anything, chaos is lying about being watched, or Dina changed her mind that night and looked at me or chaos.

am I making sense to anyone else?

This still omits the factor of whether people get notifications if the targetter dies though. Or the assumption that you could be the one making up an action. (I know you're never going to agree with that second one though.)

 

[Lawpy]

I just don't get why they'd both be lying and why lying absolutely is happening at all.

Why do you think Dina didn't change her mind?

 

[Animal Midwife]

Why do you think Dina didn't change her mind?

Because she already had chaos as village. Changing her mind to samac, I could see, but her doubling back on a village read is inconsistent with her very consistent reads this game.

 

[Animal Midwife]

She literally told me she was looking into Trilt though, so I'm trusting the word from the seer herself rather than mechanical speculation that doesn't make any sense to me. Forcing a square peg into a round hole.

 

[Ms Procrastinator]

The whole reason I felt okay having Zenge as a villager D1 was because he straight out said he was yeeting me regardless of whether or not I was a wolf because my play last game was anti-village. I felt comfortable with him after he said this because I thought there was no way a wolf would admit on thread that they were trying to yeet a villager. Like I said in my please read, I knew there were definitely wolves who were going to use my play last game as an excuse to yeet me. My mind sort of changed on zenge when Vis mentioned that wolves could have pre-planned excuses to vote for me. Regardless of how I voted my POI remained consistent and I did get some wolves in my read. Even if wolves have been throwing mud at each other like shorty mentioned why on earth would I scum read 3 of my pack?

 

[Lawpy]

Because she already had chaos as village. Changing her mind to samac, I could see, but her doubling back on a village read is inconsistent with her very consistent reads this game.

So was chaos watched and samacs lying?

 

[supershorty]

Just curious, MsP, why didn't you change your vote to Zenge on D2? It looks like you were online around yeet close, you posted noting how many votes were on Zenge before kaydubs said voting was closed (although the timestamp is at 9:00 so a vote change at that point wouldn't have counted), but you left your vote on please even after Dina's reveal.

 

[supershorty]

The whole reason I felt okay having Zenge as a villager D1 was because he straight out said he was yeeting me regardless of whether or not I was a wolf because my play last game was anti-village. I felt comfortable with him after he said this because I thought there was no way a wolf would admit on thread that they were trying to yeet a villager.

Seems like a really easy thing for a wolf to say under the guise of being pro-village, not sure I follow your logic in this statement.

 

[samac]

This still omits the factor of whether people get notifications if the targetter dies though. Or the assumption that you could be the one making up an action. (I know you're never going to agree with that second one though.)

I’m not lying. But ignore my part of the camera thing out for a minute, especially since that is still happening and apparently likely unrelated to Dina.

so either Chaos and trilt is lying or Dina changed her mind or didn’t give you the complete truth either.

 

[samac]

So was chaos watched and samacs lying?

I’m not lying about cameras, which if you also got last night was obviously not Dina’s role.

 

[Lawpy]

I’m not lying. But ignore my part of the camera thing out for a minute, especially since that is still happening and apparently likely unrelated to Dina.

so either Chaos and trilt is lying or Dina changed her mind or didn’t give you the complete truth either.

Why are chaos and trouts both lying and not one of them?

 

[Animal Midwife]

So was chaos watched and samacs lying?

I have no idea. I just don't see any reason to believe Dina didn't target Trilt when so many variables could explain the other actions being claimed (or not claimed).

 

[Lawpy]

I’m not lying about cameras, which if you also got last night was obviously not Dina’s role.

Oh

Then dina seered Trouts and chaos and Trouts are both lying?

My head hurts

 

[samac]

Why are chaos and trouts both lying and not one of them?

Trilt claimed that night she was not watched and chaos claimed he was.
so it would be likely that they both lied if Dina seered trilt.

 

[Lawpy]

I have no idea. I just don't see any reason to believe Dina didn't target Trilt when so many variables could explain the other actions being claimed (or not claimed).

Is Trouts lying about not getting the notification?

 

[Animal Midwife]

Is Trouts lying about not getting the notification?

Either that or Dina was no longer able to give notifications after death.

 

[samac]

Oh

Then dina seered Trouts and chaos and Trouts are both lying?

My head hurts

That’s my point, if she seered trilt then there’s likely 2 fold lying and I don’t see a reason that that was necessary. I see it much more likely Dina changed her mind, but AM is persistent that Dina was going to seer trilt so the other option is they lied.

 

[samac]

Either that or Dina was no longer able to give notifications after death.

Then where did chaos’s notification come from?

 

[Lawpy]

That’s my point, if she seered trilt then there’s likely 2 fold lying and I don’t see a reason that that was necessary. I see it much more likely Dina changed her mind, but AM is persistent that Dina was going to seer trilt so the other option is they lied.

How are you reading the Trout anyways?

 

[Animal Midwife]

Then where did chaos’s notification come from?

Not from Dina.

 

[samac]

One was a camera which I think was probably her, but someone else watched me intently so that could have been a her or a different ability

the camera is apparently still in play so the watching notification was probably Dina. The person with the camera is likely the wolf.

If I’m remembering correctly mkg claimed she was watched when Zenge seered her too, so seering might just say watch.

 

[samac]

Not from Dina.

Lol
Okay, I’m done with the circle, I don’t think it’s productive.

 

[Crayola227]

I’m not lying. But ignore my part of the camera thing out for a minute, especially since that is still happening and apparently likely unrelated to Dina.

so either Chaos and trilt is lying or Dina changed her mind or didn’t give you the complete truth either.

Could AM be lying?

 

[Lawpy]

vote LIS , obviously . It seems someone looked at me very closely

This doesn't look like the camera notification

 

[samac]

This doesn't look like the camera notification

Right, that matches what mayo said “watching me intensely”

 

[samac]

Could AM be lying?

It could be, but it doesn’t seem like she’s lying and she’s just stuck in a hard headed “I’m obviously right and how could I be wrong” circle

 

[Lawpy]

Right, that matches what mayo said “watching me intensely”

Ok so yeah. Dina likely seered chaos and the cameras are probably from the watcher. Idk why AM is assuming Dina didn't have a doubt in chaos

 

[Animal Midwife]

Ok so yeah. Dina likely seered chaos and the cameras are probably from the watcher. Idk why AM is assuming Dina didn't have a doubt in chaos

Why would she ignore her entire POE to seer a top village read? And even if you can find a reason she'd do that, why would she specifically say she was seering someone else and not chaos?

 

[Lawpy]

Why would she ignore her entire POE to seer a top village read? And even if you can find a reason she'd do that, why would she specifically say she was seering someone else and not chaos?

Maybe she reevaluated her chaos read and didn't tell you?