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[supershorty]

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btw don't forget to set your cocks ahead tonight

Think you missed a letter there.

 

[Barkley13]

Think you missed a letter there.

I’m glad someone else saw that before it potentially got edited lol

 

[Lawpy]

btw don't forget to set your cocks ahead tonight

What

 

[Barkley13]

lol i haven't seen it yet but im glad you ate breakfast! i never do and its not good for me lol

Hello what are your current reads?

 

[Lawpy]

@kraskadva what did you do now

 

[Animal Midwife]

Think you missed a letter there.

I dunno man. Roosters need to not wake up the farmers too early.

 

[kaydubs]

Day 7: Let Me See IT Vote Tally

vetschoolsplz (5) - MsP, AM, mayo, Lupin, Barks
samac (1) - Lawpy
mayo (1) - Cray

7/14

Missing: HALF

Deadline: 10pm EST on 3/14/21 (~25 hours)

 

[Ms Procrastinator]

Just curious, MsP, why didn't you change your vote to Zenge on D2? It looks like you were online around yeet close, you posted noting how many votes were on Zenge before kaydubs said voting was closed (although the timestamp is at 9:00 so a vote change at that point wouldn't have counted), but you left your vote on please even after Dina's reveal.

He was outed and dying regardless and I liked my please vote. A lot of people stayed on theirs

 

[Lupin21]

Day 7: Let Me See IT Vote Tally

vetschoolsplz (5) - MsP, AM, mayo, Lupin, Barks
samac (1) - Lawpy
mayo (1) - Cray

7/14

Missing: most

Deadline: 10pm EST on 3/14/21 (~25 hours)

Missing is only HALF now!

 

[kaydubs]

Missing is only HALF now!

I fixed it. FOR YOU!

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

lupin turn

Spoiler: Day 1

so their first interaction wasn't until p5, which i think it worth noting considering lots of people were interacting w both of them prior

I sort of read it as Lupin trying to obfuscate and distract from the weird clearing of April by misdirecting into a conversation about AM’s salt wagon.

I am still sorting out the first 5-6 posters. I have zenge in my top red spot. AM is likely village. Cray is likely village. Genny is always one I watch closely.

Lawpy seems normal, alissa seems normal though I'd like to smack her over her vote for my boss, um, looking forward to Trilt and the rest of the crew who are going to eyeroll at a lot of the discussion so far.

Chaos I will also throw into my villa lean pile based on interactions currently, despite the vote for me. haha

first reads shared, right out the gate puts z near top of wolf. i dont think a packmate would do that

Timing of the AM vote, and the over willingness to hop on the pointless townie toss out for april as something to push. I dunno, participating but not sure of the motives yet.

the reasoning for the z read

I was adding my thoughts to the conversation.

I don’t know why you think automatically clearing April just because she was the first person to post on the thread isn’t weird, but it’s weird. It completely lacks any analysis or thought.

Saying “In my experience the first poster is usually village”, regardless if it’s true, is a really irrelevant thing to clear someone on. You have to at least acknowledge that?

I’m sorry if I don’t know your play style, but when I’m looking for things to stand out as weird, this is weird.

Can you at least acknowledge that automatically clearing someone, just because they were the first one to post on the thread is a weird thing to do?

z responding to lupin's reasoning

How is saying someone is towny clearing them? I think our understanding of WW language is very different.

then z made the comment abt town and village

I like that line of thinking. Very creative! what do you think of the other two voting with you currently?

Other two voting with me? I don’t have a vote at the moment.

Oh, I thought you were still on AM.

Ah, Mayo is the other one. I had wondered your opinion on april and mg3

No, that was just a momentary salt vote from the last game. I moved to pressure MsP and have since moved off, now that she’s posted.

Mayo I haven’t seen enough from to say anything.

Not seeing anything wolfy about April so far, leaning village.

Oh, whoops, missed that MKG was on this list. Also leaning village.

i dont think there's much indicative abt this interaction

and her current thoughts on Lupin, After this interaction transpired:

Spoiler

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this was asking me abt my thoughts on lupin and if they had changed after the kinda jokey interaction. the interaction was pretty jokey and makes lupin look better in the context of what had happened so im not sure how to read that coming from z

Z went hardcore on pressuring MsP. I get it though, there were a LOT of us that were salty about how that game ended, and MsP playing anti-village contributed to that village loss. So I get why that left a sour taste in his mouth, and I agree with Anna about why several players are still salty about it, even though MsP's misyeet did help Anna as a wolf. Regardless, Z's pressure vote worked and it appears that MsP is playing more pro-village (so far at least)? I am not a fan of how much he defended this move though, so it pinged my wolfdar slightly.

I've never played with Lupin before, but I thought it was peculiar (as others have pointed out) why April posting first meant that she is instantly a villager. I think its NAI. I do agree that jumping on the AM yeet wagon would be a good way for a wolf to hide out, except it seems like a LOT of people were salty about AM from last game. Could be WIFOM if we read too much into that, especially since salt votes rarely stay.

so i think it was interesting how alley's tone remains pretty constant to me throughout this post, as she goes from talking about a packmate to talking abt lupin

these are from alley's spreadsheet reads list

Had a little back and forth with Lupin about town vs village, noobiness came out. Towny does not equal uber village

from z's row

]Cray came out swinging, definitely seems like village!cray to me. Also pointed out that pleasy overexplains when she wolfs. Went back and forth with Lupin over Lupin's weird comment about April being towny

from cray's row

Makes weird comments, assumed April was towny b/c she was first to vote, claims that one of the top 5 first posters is a wolf, Enola?, is a very old player, went head to head with cray and defended her logic behind april voting for AM and the mini-bandwagon that followed

in lupin's row.

I could be looking way too much into this but i think it's interesting;
from this spreadsheet alone, alley seems to keep track of what z is DOING and then for other people, she writes opinions. tbh lupin's row also looks more like keeping track of what they're doing

Lupin: I'm in a similar spot with Lupin that I am with LIS where I obviously can't speak to knowing their playstyle, and while there's more content than LIS there still isn't very much to go on, and when you cut out the fluff and the fat it's almost the same, and there does seem to be an inordinate amount of fluff. I'm saying neutral for now, maybe slight wolf lean for all the fluff and not a lot of real wolf hunting as far as I can tell.

some very subtle sus

just you wait and see what you consider as fluff is getting a base line on people. 🍿

in response to that, i dont get it 🙁

Lupin: A lot of her comments have stood out as peculiar to me, but nothing to move her out of neutral. I have also never played with her before so I have no meta to go off of.

doesn't say anything

I am caught up through page 13. Here's my spreadsheet with notes from pages 7-13.

lupin is no mentioned here

• Lupin - She's a good player and I haven't played with her in a long time/am having a hard time gauging her posts so far so leaving her in neutral.

lol it kinda looks the same as alley's thoughts on lupin. don't like it but dont know what to make of it

Oh wow. Zen is up there too. This is going to be a gold mine for analysis, AM

ok this is very small but i think a wolf would have first noted if a packmate was on the board, not an after thought

coming away from d1, i don't think there's anything strongly indicative of w/w//v/w/v/w etc

Spoiler: Day 2

Thinks people making tallies are wolfy (besides AM) so that would implicate shorty and pleasy

this is from lupin's row. to me, and knowing alley a little bit, it sounds like where she can figure out her next move after a villigers comment

She is apparently very good at wolfing, makes me a bit nervous that she's kind of flown under my radar, but her posts are contributing to wolf hunting and I'm not quite sure how to read her tone

from the next sheet

Cyndia, what exactly made you unvote Sports? All I saw is you say she posted, but I don't think it was much, so I am wondering if you're reading her village with what was offered?

interestingly we're almost done w day 2 and i haven't seen lupin interact directly with a wolf until this

And I'd like to see if alley's read on MsP is changing with posts.

and then immediate following by this

I feel a bit better about MsP because she is contributing. I still don't like how she only shows up a few hours before yeet deadline, but I've been there before and she is putting in more effort than she did in basics

I'm not sure about his wolf style, that's what I'm saying. When he was a villager before, he was very jokey. Right now, I'm say he's weirder than village mayo, but more active and contributing to the thread more than wolf mayo.

He was a wolf in my noob game in December, and he tunneled on me pretty hard, even though he was a wolf (so he knew my affiliation) and I was a villager. It was his tunnel on me that then convinced me that he was a villager, so I actually defended him slightly. Then in apocalypse he was a PR (and I think he had a post restriction/requirement) and I was convinced he was a wolf. In games since then, I've just kept my eye on him but I have yet to feel confident in my read of him.

There's quite a bit of history of me misreading Mayo in the games we've played together, which is why I've posted frequently about him confusing me this game.

interacting w lupin abt mayo

What puts Cyndia in your village pile?

in response to reads by kata

I think visc is village for me. Chaos is still reading village. Lawpy, AM, and Cray are village. Trilt and LIS I have green. Everyone else will have to woo me. haha

does not mention any wolves. i doubt a fellow packmate wouldn't put at least one packmate in their villig

Zenge, you and mayo are still person's of interest

then the z reveal and lupin is #11 on the reveal

ok so there's nothing super strong in either day to indicate interaction affiliation BUt there were a couple of small things that make me lean;

lupin is villig after reviewing interactions

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

some comments from my catch up;

cray started throwing accusations immediately and pleasy made that weird haha it’s a dream comment.

😒
that post was a non game related post; i think me trying to sway the game with it wouldn't really be fair play, and i don't love the implication that i dont play fair

GUYS IM GETTING BREAKFAST AT A PLACE CALLED BLACK BEAR CAFE AND IT LOOKS SO GOOOOOOD

i found the breakfast post, black bear is fun! the portions are so big though i always end up taking more than half home🙁 (there's black bears all over california, there's one like a mile away in downtown davis lol)

I'm bothered by her reads only being accurate on days a wolf is outted, the ever decreasing activity, and just straight up surviving all the double kills over sketchier people despite being "clear" since D2.

but that's the thing- i've survived because i HAVEN'T been clear since D2. I've been brought up again and again as a wolf read, there has been like no reason for the wolves to get rid of me.

The whole reason I felt okay having Zenge as a villager D1 was because he straight out said he was yeeting me regardless of whether or not I was a wolf because my play last game was anti-village. I felt comfortable with him after he said this because I thought there was no way a wolf would admit on thread that they were trying to yeet a villager. Like I said in my please read, I knew there were definitely wolves who were going to use my play last game as an excuse to yeet me.

the reasoning of z=v and me=w contradict each other imo

Hey those of you who got the camera notification:

Dina mentioned this N1 result and the assumption was that it was Vissy, who was the village tracker.
Did any of you have wording similar to this? Or were yours all the camera shutter that samac mentioned?

Also including this post that I found where Dina had listed most of her reads. It's from D3 though. I'm looking for a more recent one.

i got camera shutters (thats what i meant by camera "going off")

 

[samac]

some comments from my catch up;

😒
that post was a non game related post; i think me trying to sway the game with it wouldn't really be fair play, and i don't love the implication that i dont play fair

i found the breakfast post, black bear is fun! the portions are so big though i always end up taking more than half home🙁 (there's black bears all over california, there's one like a mile away in downtown davis lol)

Omg the sweet cream pancakes were insane. It was soooo good!

but I don’t think that would be unfair play, I actually thought it would be really clever. Wasn’t trying to indicate you don’t play fair.

 

[Ms Procrastinator]

the reasoning of z=v and me=w contradict each other imo

At first I thought it was unlikely that two wolves would come up with the same reason to yeet me. A lot of people brought up that reason so thought all of them can't possibly be wolves so I had to decide who was the wolfiest. I ended up on you. Either way I did end up wolf reading both you and zenge.

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

Hello what are your current reads?

hi! dazed and confused.
i went through and updated my vca's on everyone (i might be using the term incorrectly) and that's heavily influenced where people have moved

my villig bloc:
lupin, shorty, snow
the next "tier", the suburbs if you will; cray and lawp
the flexible end of my town maybe they have a country vacation house; AM, you (bark)
the outskirts: jaboo, trilt, chaos

the haunted house on the hill: mayo (3p, idk my metaphor's falling apart)

Then tbh MsP and samac are the only ones who havent made it into the villig bloc



for my two cents on the stuff about finding it weird for cray to push the yeet of a confirmed non-wolf;

i don't agree but i get it. i don't think its necc a bad thing but i can really see both sides here, and i don't think cray is wolfy for it

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

but I don’t think that would be unfair play, I actually thought it would be really clever. Wasn’t trying to indicate you don’t play fair.

i mean i guess, but i intentionally put it in asterisks so that people knew it had nothing to do w my actual view of the game

 

[Trilt]

Did we determine what a wolf hacker actually did? Was that the watcher vs tracker convo?

I theorized based on the write-up that they're a JOAT and I still like the idea, but no real knowledge.

I'm wondering if the wolves made an attempt on the 3P last night that failed. Not that he would tell us.

This makes it seem even more important to me that we deal with it and vote him. Might be the only way he dies.

Why would you think that they would kill a neutral character that we are likely to lynch and that doesn't contribute to their win condition?

Or Trilt is lying. Or people don't give notifications when they die in the process.

Where are you getting that these other people are lying from my previous two examples? Why are these more likely then Trilt straight-up lying or no seering occurring at all? Why is the grand assumption that Dina lied at baseline?

Just because of action economy, unless there are stil 3 observer roles, and the fact that the night that I had cameras on me chaos was claiming he was watched. Maybe Dina just changed her mind, but that would mean both trilt and chaos are likely both lying.

She literally told me she was looking into Trilt though, so I'm trusting the word from the seer herself rather than mechanical speculation that doesn't make any sense to me. Forcing a square peg into a round hole.

have no idea. I just don't see any reason to believe Dina didn't target Trilt when so many variables could explain the other actions being claimed (or not claimed).

Trilt claimed that night she was not watched and chaos claimed he was.
so it would be likely that they both lied if Dina seered trilt.

Why in the world would I lie about this? I actually literally brought up that it looked like she got her results in the writeup:

This is interesting, because I got no notification of being looked into, and the write-up seems to imply she got results:

...and I wasn't notified. The entirety of this conversation is throwing sketch for a situation that makes no sense and could easily be explained by Dina just changing her damn mind, but instead we're making up something about both Chaos and I lying just... cause?

Just curious, MsP, why didn't you change your vote to Zenge on D2? It looks like you were online around yeet close, you posted noting how many votes were on Zenge before kaydubs said voting was closed (although the timestamp is at 9:00 so a vote change at that point wouldn't have counted), but you left your vote on please even after Dina's reveal.

I also did not change my vote to Zenge. It was well into being a runaway lynch in like, three minutes and I didn't really see a good reason to add to a 10+ person lynch lead (beyond to potentially make my VCA look better. 😉)

 

[Ms Procrastinator]

I also did not change my vote to Zenge. It was well into being a runaway lynch in like, three minutes and I didn't really see a good reason to add to a 10+ person lynch lead (beyond to potentially make my VCA look better. 😉)

Precisely! Zenge was good as dead

 

[Lawpy]

hi! dazed and confused.
i went through and updated my vca's on everyone (i might be using the term incorrectly) and that's heavily influenced where people have moved

my villig bloc:
lupin, shorty, snow
the next "tier", the suburbs if you will; cray and lawp
the flexible end of my town maybe they have a country vacation house; AM, you (bark)
the outskirts: jaboo, trilt, chaos

the haunted house on the hill: mayo (3p, idk my metaphor's falling apart)

Then tbh MsP and samac are the only ones who havent made it into the villig bloc



for my two cents on the stuff about finding it weird for cray to push the yeet of a confirmed non-wolf;

i don't agree but i get it. i don't think its necc a bad thing but i can really see both sides here, and i don't think cray is wolfy for it

Can you explain your snowy read?

 

[Lawpy]

Wait. Snow = LIS, not @SnowshoeDog143

Another nickname confusion just like Paws = pawprints and not @JustPaws

 

[samac]

I theorized based on the write-up that they're a JOAT and I still like the idea, but no real knowledge.


Why would you think that they would kill a neutral character that we are likely to lynch and that doesn't contribute to their win condition?








Why in the world would I lie about this? I actually literally brought up that it looked like she got her results in the writeup:


...and I wasn't notified. The entirety of this conversation is throwing sketch for a situation that makes no sense and could easily be explained by Dina just changing her damn mind, but instead we're making up something about both Chaos and I lying just... cause?


I also did not change my vote to Zenge. It was well into being a runaway lynch in like, three minutes and I didn't really see a good reason to add to a 10+ person lynch lead (beyond to potentially make my VCA look better. 😉)

I just want to note I think the most simple explanation is she changed her mind, I was trying to offer up other explanations since AM was dead sure.

 

[WildZoo]

Hello everyone, I am your drunk mod, here to align with the wolf wine-con. Cheers!🍷

 

[Lawpy]

Hello everyone, I am your drunk mod, here to align with the wolf wine-con. Cheers!🍷

Drunk twisted Lawpy plots: what if the wolves got WZ drunk 🤔

 

[supershorty]

Why would you think that they would kill a neutral character that we are likely to lynch and that doesn't contribute to their win condition?

I asked her this earlier and didn't get an answer.

 

[Trilt]

I asked her this earlier and didn't get an answer.

It's okay, it'll be like me asking AM why I would lie about getting a seer notification.

~radio silence~

 

[Animal Midwife]

hi! dazed and confused.
i went through and updated my vca's on everyone (i might be using the term incorrectly) and that's heavily influenced where people have moved

my villig bloc:
lupin, shorty, snow
the next "tier", the suburbs if you will; cray and lawp
the flexible end of my town maybe they have a country vacation house; AM, you (bark)
the outskirts: jaboo, trilt, chaos

the haunted house on the hill: mayo (3p, idk my metaphor's falling apart)

Then tbh MsP and samac are the only ones who havent made it into the villig bloc



for my two cents on the stuff about finding it weird for cray to push the yeet of a confirmed non-wolf;

i don't agree but i get it. i don't think its necc a bad thing but i can really see both sides here, and i don't think cray is wolfy for it

I don't really understand some of the rankings on this list.

Why is jboo on the furthest outskirts of your village reads? Why is Cray so far up?

 

[supershorty]

hi! dazed and confused.
i went through and updated my vca's on everyone (i might be using the term incorrectly) and that's heavily influenced where people have moved

my villig bloc:
lupin, shorty, snow
the next "tier", the suburbs if you will; cray and lawp
the flexible end of my town maybe they have a country vacation house; AM, you (bark)
the outskirts: jaboo, trilt, chaos

the haunted house on the hill: mayo (3p, idk my metaphor's falling apart)

Then tbh MsP and samac are the only ones who havent made it into the villig bloc



for my two cents on the stuff about finding it weird for cray to push the yeet of a confirmed non-wolf;

i don't agree but i get it. i don't think its necc a bad thing but i can really see both sides here, and i don't think cray is wolfy for it

Can you explain the bolded ones more?

 

[Animal Midwife]

Why in the world would I lie about this? I actually literally brought up that it looked like she got her results in the writeup:


...and I wasn't notified. The entirety of this conversation is throwing sketch for a situation that makes no sense and could easily be explained by Dina just changing her damn mind, but instead we're making up something about both Chaos and I lying just... cause?

Who's going to call you out if you lied? The dead seer?

I already gave two explainations for why you'd say you didn't get a notification and refuse to believe she didn't target you either way unless some random redirect occurred from God.

Anyway, I don't see what chaos has to do with any of this because it's unclear what action he's claiming at this point.

 

[samac]

Hey AM I got you something

Spoiler

 

[Chaostrodon]

Okay, I looked at MsP's posts too. There are some interactions with Zenge that I had initially written off as w/v, but that was before we knew that this pack was apparently perfectly happy to start throwing mud at each other early. These interactions still could be w/v, but they could just as easily be staged w/w. I'd buy these being w/w over Zenge's interactions with jaboo, for example. MsP had correct wolf reads on Cyndia and alley, but her VCA overall is a bit of a mystery without knowing what please is. MsP's read on Zenge suddenly flipped from D1 to D2, seemingly just based on what April was saying.

I feel like there could be a wolf between Cray and MsP, but between Cray's heavy push to yeet a neutral instead of wolf hunt and MsP's interactions with Zenge and evolution of her POI/voting history, I'm not sure which one is more likely.

Spoiler

Zenge/MsP interactions






Couple noteworthy things in this single post:

This was in response to Zenge. I read it as villagey at the time. Now knowing the amount of bussing and deepwolfing that's happened in this game, I'm not sure I can write it off that easily.

This JUST happened in the last game that MsP played (last game as far as I know. She didn't play GGoats and this happened in Basics).








Here's MsP's first reads list:

The Zenge read is interesting.



Now it's Day 2 and MsP's changed her tune on Zenge.

Highlighted this because it's not really what April said - none of us had seen wolf!Zenge before this game, April had just raised the possibility because his play/tone seemed different from previous games.

First POI post:


Next POE:

Then shortly after, said she was moving please to neutral:


Here's the next POI:



Not sure why Cyndia and alley both disappeared from the POI. There's no explanation prior to this post as to why she'd remove them.






Tiny detail, but pawprints was only in 1 of her POI posts. She was mentioned earlier in a bigger reads post, but never seemed to make it into the POI even though MsP seemed a little sus of her.


These 2 sentences don't make a lot of sense together.

I have been saying this for a long while , I would much rather vote MsP than please

 

[Animal Midwife]

Hey AM I got you something

Spoiler

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Is it a milkshake?

 

[Chaostrodon]

Also why tf are people thinking Im lying about some notification.

I just got a message that said someone looked at me closely

 

[Animal Midwife]

Also why tf are people thinking Im lying about some notification.

I just got a message that said someone looked at me closely

I'm trying to understand but they seem to be grouping you and Trilt as a package deal. Doesn't make sense to me.

 

[Chaostrodon]

why? what do I have to gain from lying about a notif

 

[Trilt]

Who's going to call you out if you lied? The dead seer?

I already gave two explainations for why you'd say you didn't get a notification and refuse to believe she didn't target you either way unless some random redirect occurred from God.

Anyway, I don't see what chaos has to do with any of this because it's unclear what action he's claiming at this point.

I missed them. Please tell me the two reasons why I am lying about getting a seering notification from someone who cannot call me out on it?

 

[Chaostrodon]

Whats unclear? That was a very accurate paraphrase of what I got

 

[Trilt]

********

Hey AM I got you something

Spoiler

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Yes I need about a half dozen of those to my ER right now thanks...
********

 

[Lawpy]

Also why tf are people thinking Im lying about some notification.

I just got a message that said someone looked at me closely

See that's why i was telling AM that it's not different from the mayos notification and you were seered by Dina

 

[Chaostrodon]

Why does it matter who she seered before dying anyway

 

[samac]

why? what do I have to gain from lying about a notif

I don’t think you’re lying. That was my point is that it would have been convoluted and unnecessary.

 

[Animal Midwife]

I missed them. Please tell me the two reasons why I am lying about getting a seering notification from someone who cannot call me out on it?

Outside of lying, it's also possible that Dina gave no notification from dying. Meaning you actually go no notification.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Why does it matter who she seered before dying anyway

So I can flex more.

 

[Chaostrodon]

So I can flex more.

Are you serious ? This discussion has taken up 4 pages

 

[Animal Midwife]

Are you serious ? This discussion has taken up 4 pages

Nah, that's just my passive aggressive response. I consider it ended since I said she seered Trilt 24 hours ago tbh.

 

[Lawpy]

Nah, that's just my passive aggressive response. I consider it ended since I said she seered Trilt 24 hours ago tbh.

Why are you so fixed on the idea that dina didn't change her mind

 

[Animal Midwife]

Why are you so fixed on the idea that dina didn't change her mind

Because it makes no sense. Not with her meta. Not with this game. Nothing you say will change my mind on it. If there's something else you want to discuss with me, let me know.

 

[Lawpy]

Because it makes no sense. Not with her meta. Not with this game. Nothing you say will change my mind on it. If there's something else you want to discuss with me, let me know.

Your suggestion is a lot more mechanically complicated and implies someone lied when the simpler suggestion of her changing her mind and not telling you is straightforward and less confusing

 

[Trilt]

Outside of lying, it's also possible that Dina gave no notification from dying. Meaning you actually go no notification.

That's one reason, and it's not even addressing the claim that I'm lying.

You repeatedly posited that I could be "straight up lying."

So give me those reasons about why I would lie about a notification, and not only that, lie about it WHILE QUOTING THE WRITE-UP pointing out that it looked like I should have gotten a notification.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Your suggestion is a lot more mechanically complicated and implies someone lied when the simpler suggestion of her changing her mind and not telling you is straightforward and less confusing

No, we've been discussing everything together. Bound by blood. Til death do us part.

That's one reason, and it's not even addressing the claim that I'm lying.

You repeatedly posited that I could be "straight up lying."

So give me those reasons about why I would lie about a notification, and not only that, lie about it WHILE QUOTING THE WRITE-UP pointing out that it looked like I should have gotten a notification.

I just did in the quote you posted.

Either you lied or Dina didn't give the you a notification because she died.

 

[Trilt]

No, we've been discussing everything together. Bound by blood. Tío death do us part.

I just did in the quote you posted.

Either you lied or Dina didn't give the you a notification because she died.

That is not a reason explaining why I would lie.