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[Animal Midwife]

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Like one of you is a wolf and the other isn’t, but I think it’s more likely you.

So why did you tell me a slight wolf lean when I asked about it?

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

I'm saying wolves are more concerned about how reads make them look than their accuracy, compared to villagers.

it's not a towny perspective to worry so much about how other players view you - wolves really have to worry about that. villagers worry about finding wolves.

noobs do tend to worry more about getting voted though, which can make them appear wolfy. so the question is whether you're being nooby or wolfy.

yeah no that's fair. my paranoia about my perception right now is coming from I got so close to getting yeeted last night that I wrote a goodbye farewell post, and I'm trying not to display the thing (hedginess) that got me there

 

[Lawpy]

Have you looked at who all is on the Vis wagon and my wagon, respectively?

Yes i'm seeing but i'm disturbed by the fact that katas, MSP and pawprints really quickly followed your lead. Alleys is in my POE but pleasy looks village imo.

 

[Crayola227]

Where? I thought she only had the like button?

I decided to start using sad when I see silly assumptions counter to good WW theory.

 

[Trilt]

I feel that Barks is one of the most village-y people on the field and throwing shade on her for moving to a lynch that she's mentioned she's okay with throughout the day is questionable.

 

[holdthemayo]

Spoiler

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I already said it to kaydubs and WZ, so I should tell you. This is by far the best post I've seen a person do with a post restriction.

Spoiler: hat's off

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[Dinashadow]

The AM wagon seemed to appear out of thin air less than an hour before yeet close while the Vis vote has been discussed and voted on throughout the cycle. AM's feels more wolf driven to me.

 

[Barkley13]

Vissy was still in the lead and like only 2 votes came after mine vs like 3 for vissy.

Even with you saying that I’m still not even sure what the counts are at but I was assuming it was getting close

 

[Animal Midwife]

Yes i'm seeing but i'm disturbed by the fact that katas, MSP and pawprints really quickly followed your lead. Alleys is in my POE but pleasy looks village imo.

I still don't know why pawprints voted here, but kata voted for Vis yesterday so this isn't super unexpected imo. MsP I also thought was doing a better job of expressing her reads and intent to vote so I don't understand why she's an issue.

 

[Lawpy]

Even with you saying that I’m still not even sure what the counts are at but I was assuming it was getting close

One sec while i track down the votes

 

[Ms Procrastinator]

pleasy and alley both switching to AM hmmm. very interesting

 

[supershorty]

The AM wagon seemed to appear out of thin air less than an hour before yeet close while the Vis vote has been discussed and voted on throughout the cycle. AM's feels more wolf driven to me.

Spoiler

 

[Crayola227]

Spoiler

Where do you think the wolf on the wagon is?

 

[genny]

The AM wagon seemed to appear out of thin air less than an hour before yeet close while the Vis vote has been discussed and voted on throughout the cycle. AM's feels more wolf driven to me.

it was mentioned earlier. but really took off suddenly.

 

[Lawpy]

Spoiler: votes

Day 3 Trouble! Trouble Everywhere! Vote Tally

katashark (1) - pawprints
Viscernable (5) - Cray, Dina, genny, Trilt, AM
Cyndia (1) - Sporty
alleycat (4) - Lupin, Lawpy, Barks, LIS
mkg ()
Chaostrodon ()
mayo ()
LIS (1) - Chaostrodon
pawprintsandponytails (1) - Cyndia
AM (3) - supershorty, mayo, Viscernable

16/22

Winning: @Viscernable

Missing: @vetschoolsletmeinplease @alleycat03 @mkg323 @katashark @jaboo @Ms Procrastinator

Deadline: 10pm EST on 3/6/21 (~1.25 hours)

Vissy in lead by 2 vs AM

Pleasy- Their reads list is off to me. Everyone is saying that they couldn’t possibly be wolf because of vis’s vote. I still think they tried to get the least powerful (PR wise) wolf yeeted because there were three of them in danger before the zenge reveal. Their reads list doesn’t help me read them any less wolf. Why doesn’t vis even make the reads list? I’m cool with dying in this tinfoil.

Kata- Barely posts.Posts don’t really have that much substance, Seems to not be on thread much and in danger of not meeting minimum

Sporty- Put zenge closer to being yeeted day 1. She was on both zenge and visc thursday. Her vis vote (before zenge reveal) doesn’t fit in with my pleasy/vis/zenge theory. She couldn’t be a part of the pack. Her votes are looking good so far.

Both vis and alley reacted weirdly to the zenge reveal, but I want vis flipped more Yeet Visc

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Vote vis
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************** Unyeet kata
Yeet vis *************

3 more vissy votes arose. Vissy leading by 5 vs AM

Whoa the vissy wagon is picking up speed!

Lets try something out:

unyeet alleys
yeet AM

Vissy leading by 4 vs AM

wait, why? I'd go cyndia before AM

I'm not happy how fast the vissy wagon went when AM broke the vissy-alleys tie by voting vissy

yeet please
May change my mind later

Mostly because those reads are whack

I think that this could be a valuable flip. I have a few "not W/W" people on my list in a pair with AM that can help solidify my village bloc
It feels like AM is twisting my words or only restating half of what I actually said to make it appear that my arguments are weaker than they are. She's picking apart a single one of my village leans

yeet AM

I did not like AM's interaction with Mayo, I did not like her snark, and I really did not like how she interacted with Shorty "last night" (end of D2). I have had her as a slight wolf lean for most of the game, and I just cannot shake the feeling of how she has been more of a distraction this game and less pro-village than the previous games I've played with her. She has more snark, which is akin to how she wolfed last game.

Yeet AM

Vissy leading by 2 vs AM

Unyeet alley
Yeet vis

still want to yeet alley but if it comes down to AM and vis I feel worse about vis

Vissy leading by 3 vs AM

 

[Viscernable]

So why did you tell me a slight wolf lean when I asked about it?

She is only a slight wolf lean because I think you’re the more likely wolf. Individually, she looks wolfy, and I won’t village-read someone who looks wolfy because of interactions with someone who hasn’t flipped, even if that person looks very wolfy.

 

[Lawpy]

The AM wagon seemed to appear out of thin air less than an hour before yeet close while the Vis vote has been discussed and voted on throughout the cycle. AM's feels more wolf driven to me.

AM was discussed since D1

 

[Dinashadow]

Spoiler

Vis and alley. It's hard because a lot of the people voting for her were barely around this cycle

it was mentioned earlier. but really took off suddenly.

Yeah I know shorty was on there earlier, it's these last minute votes from people who haven't really been around that's bugging me I think

 

[Dinashadow]

AM was discussed since D1

And so was vissy? Idk what your point is here

edit: sorry I think this came off sassier than I meant it to be lol

 

[Barkley13]

Spoiler: votes

Vissy in lead by 2 vs AM






3 more vissy votes arose. Vissy leading by 5 vs AM



Vissy leading by 4 vs AM









Vissy leading by 2 vs AM

Vissy leading by 3 vs AM

Going from vis leading by 4 to only 2 sounds like it was getting close to me

 

[Trilt]

Yeah where the **** were all these votes the last 35.5 hours?

 

[Crayola227]

Spoiler: votes

Vissy in lead by 2 vs AM






3 more vissy votes arose. Vissy leading by 5 vs AM



Vissy leading by 4 vs AM









Vissy leading by 2 vs AM

Vissy leading by 3 vs AM

Can I get you to post a conclusion with this?

 

[SportPonies]

I meant to mention this earlier but anxieties are currently consuming my real life so I’m not gonna be around for close. If I can quick find an updated tally I may switch my vote appropriately. Cyndia maybe sounded a little better to me today

 

[Lawpy]

Going from vis leading by 4 to only 2 sounds like it was getting close to me

It started at 2, sped up to 5 suddenly, went to 4 when i swapped and decreased back to 2. It was closer at the start when vissy was leading alleys by 1 as opposed to now

 

[genny]

so who are the wolves taking advantage and voting for you?

@Viscernable i know it sounded like a joke, but this was a real question. If you're village, who are the wolves on your wagon?

 

[Animal Midwife]

I still find it highly suspicious because mayo came out of nowhere, voted an incompatible read, isn't trying to contribute to discussion since he hit the minimum, and doesn't even have more than one compatible wolf read.

The fact that Vis and Cyndia both are fine and playing oblivious to this is insane and the resistance looks terrible.

 

[supershorty]

Where do you think the wolf on the wagon is?

Spoiler

 

[Barkley13]

It started at 2, sped up to 5 suddenly, went to 4 when i swapped and decreased back to 2. It was closer at the start when vissy was leading alleys by 1 as opposed to now

Yeah and now it’s 17 minutes to close so not really any more time to wait and see

 

[Crayola227]

It started at 2, sped up to 5 suddenly, went to 4 when i swapped and decreased back to 2. It was closer at the start when vissy was leading alleys by 1 as opposed to now

Yes, but what do you think it means?

 

[holdthemayo]

Yeah where the **** were all these votes the last 35.5 hours?

This is part of why I don't like 36 hour cycles. I know I'm as guilty as the other people you are calling out, but I think it is a big factor.

 

[holdthemayo]

I still find it highly suspicious because mayo came out of nowhere, voted an incompatible read, isn't trying to contribute to discussion since he hit the minimum, and doesn't even have more than one compatible wolf read.

The fact that Vis and Cyndia both are fine and playing oblivious to this is insane and the resistance looks terrible.

Why are they always looking at me Mr B.?

 

[Lawpy]

Hang on

The alleys wagon practically dissipated

So we went from 3 to 2 wagons

🤔

 

[alleycat03]

Yeah where the **** were all these votes the last 35.5 hours?

I'm really sorry, I was busy dealing with the inconsiderate a**holes that I currently live with. Plus a landlord that expected us to have our house ready to be shown to potential renters for next year WITH 45 MINUTES NOTICE (sorry for the all caps, I'm still extremely frustrated by that). And I had a 5 hour required club retreat today that zapped a significant amount of my energy. I needed an SDN break after spending so much time here on Thursday that I neglected all of my schoolwork.

 

[genny]

I meant to mention this earlier but anxieties are currently consuming my real life so I’m not gonna be around for close. If I can quick find an updated tally I may switch my vote appropriately. Cyndia maybe sounded a little better to me today

vis is at 9, AM at 6 i think. alley has 2.

 

[alleycat03]

I'm really sorry, I was busy dealing with the inconsiderate dinguses that I currently live with. Plus a landlord that expected us to have our house ready to be shown to potential renters for next year WITH 45 MINUTES NOTICE (sorry for the all caps, I'm still extremely frustrated by that). And I had a 5 hour requited club retreat today that zapped a significant amount of my energy. I needed an SDN break after spending so much time here on Thursday that I neglected all of my schoolwork.

why does SDN change dinguses to dinguses what the heck

 

[Barkley13]

Hang on

The alleys wagon practically dissipated

So we went from 3 to 2 wagons

🤔

Lawpy you were part of that

 

[Trilt]

This is part of why I don't like 36 hour cycles. I know I'm as guilty as the other people you are calling out, but I think it is a big factor.

People are just as capable of discussing reads and pushing votes at the beginning of a long cycle than at the end.

 

[Viscernable]

The AM wagon seemed to appear out of thin air less than an hour before yeet close while the Vis vote has been discussed and voted on throughout the cycle. AM's feels more wolf driven to me.

Do you see a better place to vote? I am getting deja vu to the wagon building on me yesterday and I don’t trust this wagon fully anymore. I’d switch off to maybe Cyndia, please (would be the most informative flip imo and i’m wondering if she’s defending me assuming I will flip tonight and it will make her look villagey), alley, or genny if there was a shift there by villagey-looking people, but for now need to stay on AM for a hope of self-prez.

 

[alleycat03]

Spoiler

If I had one, it would be Vis because she has bussed before?

 

[Animal Midwife]

Do you see a better place to vote? I am getting deja vu to the wagon building on me yesterday and I don’t trust this wagon fully anymore. I’d switch off to maybe Cyndia, please (would be the most informative flip imo and i’m wondering if she’s defending me assuming I will flip tonight and it will make her look villagey), alley, or genny if there was a shift there by villagey-looking people, but for now need to stay on AM for a hope of self-prez.

I was on Cyndia all day and you wouldn't join me.

 

[Lawpy]

Lawpy you were part of that

Yes to see where the votes would be flowing. I went from alleys leading by 1 vs AM to AM leading by 1 vs alleys to see what would happen thinking it's marginal

 

[holdthemayo]

AM wagon is trying to beat the vissy wagon for fastest time

Yes exactly. Very fun to see

Tells me we have a wolf in one of them.

 

[Dinashadow]

Do you see a better place to vote? I am getting deja vu to the wagon building on me yesterday and I don’t trust this wagon fully anymore. I’d switch off to maybe Cyndia, please (would be the most informative flip imo and i’m wondering if she’s defending me assuming I will flip tonight and it will make her look villagey), alley, or genny if there was a shift there by villagey-looking people, but for now need to stay on AM for a hope of self-prez.

If not you then I'd go cyndia over AM, or I'd maybe go alley

I'm still on the fence about please

 

[jaboo]

Unyeet pleasy
Yeet Vis

 

[kaydubs]

tallying but essentially have no internet so...fun

 

[Lawpy]

Yes, but what do you think it means?

It's basically a counter to a counter with both wagons emerging rapidly after an initial difference of 1

 

[katashark]

Who else is your wolfread besides vissy?

Please, paws. Need to look into alley more.

 

[Viscernable]

@Viscernable i know it sounded like a joke, but this was a real question. If you're village, who are the wolves on your wagon?

I’m having trouble keeping up with who is on me and on AM and when they placed their votes.

 

[holdthemayo]

I still find it highly suspicious because mayo came out of nowhere, voted an incompatible read, isn't trying to contribute to discussion since he hit the minimum, and doesn't even have more than one compatible wolf read.

The fact that Vis and Cyndia both are fine and playing oblivious to this is insane and the resistance looks terrible.

I've been voting a pretty consistent set of wolf reads and updating appropriately the whole game.

I even helpfully provided an ISO of myself since you had trouble with it.

 

[Lawpy]

unyeet AM
yeet alleys