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My big wonder about this all is why the **** would the wolves use the cigarette, knowing from mkg that it was going to cause silencing and they were going to out themselves.

Like, are we dealing with a pack who just isn't paying attention? Or was this some sort of distraction situation..?
 
My big wonder about this all is why the **** would the wolves use the cigarette, knowing from mkg that it was going to cause silencing and they were going to out themselves.

Like, are we dealing with a pack who just isn't paying attention? Or was this some sort of distraction situation..?

Bought them before anyone understood how they worked and decided to try and somehow confuse the situation with them?
 
My big wonder about this all is why the **** would the wolves use the cigarette, knowing from mkg that it was going to cause silencing and they were going to out themselves.

Like, are we dealing with a pack who just isn't paying attention? Or was this some sort of distraction situation..?

I assume they didn't expect us to share the blocking results or that one of the NKs would be the village blocker?

Alley was already pretty much MIA, maybe they thought we wouldn't notice she was silenced until later today?
 
My big wonder about this all is why the **** would the wolves use the cigarette, knowing from mkg that it was going to cause silencing and they were going to out themselves.

Like, are we dealing with a pack who just isn't paying attention? Or was this some sort of distraction situation..?
maybe they thought it was worth it to kill mkg?
 
Bought them before anyone understood how they worked and decided to try and somehow confuse the situation with them?
My thing is, you're not obliged to use an item just because you buy it? And they're transferrable, so even if you ended up with one you could always use it to curry favour and claim vanillager. Iunno.

I assume they didn't expect us to share the blocking results or that one of the NKs would be the village blocker?

Alley was already pretty much MIA, maybe they thought we wouldn't notice she was silenced until later today?
I think this is pretty fair - we'd been pretty hush hush on sharing night results until this cycle, so maybe assuming that would continue and it'd be safe. Still feels riskier than I'd want to be.

maybe they thought it was worth it to kill mkg?
hmm.
 
I'm worried some on my vote were just trying to create a counter wolf wagon. Some seemed to make a 360 read on me for BS. Feels very opportunistic.

Also, I'm side eyeing everyone that didn't consider maybe I was trying harder than the chronic no-show players to communicate. I don't see how you concluded a vote for me was best besides if you were trying to create an informational tie, which is understandable, but that's not what Mayo and Shorty gave as reasons. They were making some assumptions about how silencing worked that seems a bit too convenient and frankly didn't make much sense.
 
I've been village leaning Cray for most of the game and read through her most recent wolfing game this evening to see what wolf!Cray's posts look like - when the possibility of multiple cigarettes was brought up, I wasn't comfortable voting for her just because she was silenced today.
 
I'm worried some on my vote were just trying to create a counter wolf wagon. Some seemed to make a 360 read on me for BS. Feels very opportunistic.

Also, I'm side eyeing everyone that didn't consider maybe I was trying harder than the chronic no-show players to communicate. I don't see how you concluded a vote for me was best besides if you were trying to create an informational tie, which is understandable, but that's not what Mayo and Shorty gave as reasons. They were making some assumptions about how silencing worked that seems a bit too convenient and frankly didn't make much sense.

What do you think about shorty switching off your vote?
 
I'm worried some on my vote were just trying to create a counter wolf wagon. Some seemed to make a 360 read on me for BS. Feels very opportunistic.

Also, I'm side eyeing everyone that didn't consider maybe I was trying harder than the chronic no-show players to communicate. I don't see how you concluded a vote for me was best besides if you were trying to create an informational tie, which is understandable, but that's not what Mayo and Shorty gave as reasons. They were making some assumptions about how silencing worked that seems a bit too convenient and frankly didn't make much sense.
I'm not following this given that I unvoted you for that reason, and even though my vote change was late, I started mentioning being unsure about it earlier.
 
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I'm worried some on my vote were just trying to create a counter wolf wagon. Some seemed to make a 360 read on me for BS. Feels very opportunistic.

Also, I'm side eyeing everyone that didn't consider maybe I was trying harder than the chronic no-show players to communicate. I don't see how you concluded a vote for me was best besides if you were trying to create an informational tie, which is understandable, but that's not what Mayo and Shorty gave as reasons. They were making some assumptions about how silencing worked that seems a bit too convenient and frankly didn't make much sense.
Keep in mind it was you vs. two players who are notorious for only showing up in the dawn of the final day, so to speak. So we were not necessarily comparing like to like.
 
I'm worried some on my vote were just trying to create a counter wolf wagon. Some seemed to make a 360 read on me for BS. Feels very opportunistic.

Also, I'm side eyeing everyone that didn't consider maybe I was trying harder than the chronic no-show players to communicate. I don't see how you concluded a vote for me was best besides if you were trying to create an informational tie, which is understandable, but that's not what Mayo and Shorty gave as reasons. They were making some assumptions about how silencing worked that seems a bit too convenient and frankly didn't make much sense.

I noted that I had you as a village read, but I wasn't surprised when the inactive players were inactive.

I would expect wolf!Cray to work just as hard as village!Cray to stay alive, so I couldn't give a pass just because you were reacting. I think you would have done the same either way. You play harder than alley or kata.

Once we knew it had to be you or alley I called it out, hoping that we would at least have a two way. We got the wolf blocker, so I'm not at all sorry for how things played out.
 
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The bf and I got ice cream to mourn my death. Well technically we got it to celebrate an anniversary, but it’s also gonna cheer me up after dying :shrug:
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The “love“ react was for the scrumptiousness of the ice cream. I don’t love your death.
I do really really like it tho 😉
 
So, I think this is a very good question:
So umm , why would alley vote Cray instead of Kata

Because this was ten minutes to close:

Day 4 Smoke and Mirrors Vote Tally

katashark (5) - Lawpy, LIS, Trilt, pawprints, jaboo
Cyndia ()
alleycat (5) - Lupin, genny, MsP, Cyndia, vetschoolsplz
AM ()
pawprints&ponytails ()
vetschoolsplz ()
Cray (5) - supershorty, Dina, Barks, AM, mayo

15/19

winning: @Crayola227 & @alleycat03 & @katashark

Missing: @Crayola227 @katashark @alleycat03 @Chaostrodon

Deadline: 10pm EST on 3/8/21 (10 minutes)

Then chaos and cray make it a heavier alley lead:

Day 4 Smoke and Mirrors Vote Tally

katashark (6) - Lawpy, LIS, Trilt, pawprints, jaboo, shorty
Cyndia ()
alleycat (7) - Lupin, genny, MsP, Cyndia, vetschoolsplz, chaos, cray
AM ()
pawprints&ponytails ()
vetschoolsplz ()
Cray (4) - Dina, Barks, AM, mayo

17/19

winning: @alleycat03

Missing: @katashark @alleycat03

Deadline: 10pm EST on 3/8/21 (5 minutes)

But it's only with chaos' swap - in a very fast three minute time frame - that alley makes it a three way tie:

Day 4 Smoke and Mirrors Vote Tally

katashark (6) - Lawpy, LIS, Trilt, pawprints, jaboo, shorty
Cyndia ()
alleycat (6) - Lupin, genny, MsP, Cyndia, vetschoolsplz, cray
AM ()
pawprints&ponytails ()
vetschoolsplz ()
Cray (6) - Dina, Barks, AM, mayo, chaos, alley

18/19

winning: @alleycat03
@Crayola227 @katashark
Missing: @katashark

Deadline: 10pm EST on 3/8/21 (2 minutes)

She could have pushed the lynch to kata at that point (7 votes), and avoided the risk for herself. Why didn't she?
 
AM (1) - April
Dina (1) - shorty
genny (1) - genny
AM (2) - April, mkg
AM (3) - April, mkg, Zenge
genny () -
chaos (1) - genny
April (1) - alley
shorty (1) - please
AM (4) - April, mkg, Zenge, mayo
AM (3) - April, mkg, mayo
MsP (1) - Zenge
MsP (2) - Zenge, Barks
chaos (2) - genny, AM
Trilt (1) - Lawpy
AM (4) - April, mkg, mayo, alissa
AM (3) - April, mkg, mayo
LIS (1) - alissa
Trilt () -
Vis (1) - Lawpy
please (1) - Cray
Lupin (1) - chaos
MsP (1) - Barks
Dina () -
shorty () -
chaos (1) - genny
genny (1) - AM
MsP () -
please (2) - Cray, Barks
mkg
(1) - Cyndia
Vis () -
mkg (2) - Cyndia, Lawpy
please (3) - Cray, Barks, Dina
AM (2) - April, mayo
AM (1) - April
jboo (1) - mayo
mkg (1) - Cyndia
Vis (1) - Lawpy
Vis (2) - Lawpy, shorty
mayo (1) - Lupin
LIS () -
Zenge (1) - LIS
April (2) - alley, kata
Zenge () -
kata (1) - LIS
Barks (1) - please
AM () -
Zenge (1) - April
please (2) - Cray, Barks
alley (1) - Dina
kata (2) - LIS, Trilt
chaos () -
Zenge (2) April, genny
genny (2) - AM, Zenge
Barks () -
Vis (3) - Lawpy, shorty, please
Trilt (1) - sunshine
jboo () -
Cyndia (1) - mayo
Vis (2) - Lawpy, shorty
alissa (1) - please
kata (3) - LIS, Trilt, alissa
alissa
(2) - please, alley
MsP (1) - pawprints
mkg () -
April (1) - Cyndia
please (3) - Cray, Barks, MsP
Cyndia () -
alissa (3) - please, alley, mayo
alissa (4) - please, alley, mayo, Vis
Zenge (3) - April, genny, Sporty
alissa
(5) - please, alley, mayo, Vis, mkg
Vis
(1) - Lawpy
genny (3) - AM, Zenge, shorty
alissa (6) - please, alley, mayo, Vis, mkg, jboo
kata (2) - LIS, alissa
please (4) - Cray, Barks, MsP, Trilt

26/26
mayo (1) - Lawpy
Zenge (1) - jboo
mayo () -
kata (1) - Lawpy
genny (1) - AM
please (1) - Lupin
please (2) - Lupin, Cray
genny (2) - AM, please
kata (2) - Lawpy, LIS
please (3) - Lupin, Cray, shorty
Zenge (2) - jboo, Dina
Sporty (1) - Trilt
genny (3) - AM, please, Zenge
genny (2) - AM, Zenge
Zenge (3) - jboo, Dina, please
Sporty (2) - Trilt, Cyndia
kata (1) - Lawpy
Sporty (3) - Trilt, Cyndia, LIS
Zenge (4) - jboo, Dina, please, chaos
Zenge (3) - jboo, Dina, please
mkg (1) - chaos
genny (1) - AM
please (4) - Lupin, Cray, shorty, mkg
please (3) - Lupin, Cray, mkg
MsP (1) - alley
chaos (1) - Zenge
Cyndia (1) - mayo
Sporty (2) - Cyndia, LIS
Vis (1) - Trilt
kata () -
genny (2) - AM, Lawpy
Sporty (1) - LIS
genny (3) - AM, Lawpy, Cyndia
AM (1) - shorty
Sporty () -
kata (1) - LIS
kata (2) - LIS, pawprints
kata (1) - pawprints
Sporty (1) - LIS
MsP () -
please (4) - Lupin, Cray, mkg, alley
please (5) - Lupin, Cray, mkg, alley, MsP
Vis (2) - Trilt, genny
Vis (3) - Trilt, genny, kata
genny (2) - Lawpy, Cyndia
Vis (4) - Trilt, genny, kata, AM
AM () -
Zenge (4) - jboo, Dina, please, shorty
LIS (1) - Sporty
Cyndia () -
Zenge (5) - jboo, Dina, please, shorty, mayo
LIS () -
Vis (5) - Trilt, genny, kata, AM, Sporty
Sporty
() -
Vis (6) - Trilt, genny, kata, AM, Sporty, LIS
please (6) - Lupin, Cray, mkg, alley, MsP, Vis
Vis
(5) - Trilt, genny, kata, AM, Sporty
Zenge (6) - jboo, Dina, please, shorty, mayo, LIS
Vis (4) - Trilt, kata, AM, Sporty
Zenge (7) - jboo, Dina, please, shorty, mayo, LIS, genny
genny (1) - Cyndia
Zenge (8) - jboo, Dina, please, shorty, mayo, LIS, genny, Lawpy
Vis (3) - Trilt, kata, AM
Zenge (9) - jboo, Dina, please, shorty, mayo, LIS, genny, Lawpy, Sporty
please (5) - Lupin, Cray, mkg, alley, MsP
Zenge (10) - jboo, Dina, please, shorty, mayo, LIS, genny, Lawpy, Sporty, Vis
please (4) - Cray, mkg, alley, MsP
Zenge (11) - jboo, Dina, please, shorty, mayo, LIS, genny, Lawpy, Sporty, Vis, Lupin
chaos () -
please (5) - Cray, mkg, alley, MsP, Zenge
Vis (2) - Trilt, kata
Zenge (12) - jboo, Dina, please, shorty, mayo, LIS, genny, Lawpy, Sporty, Vis, Lupin, AM
please (4) - Cray, mkg, MsP, Zenge
Zenge (13) - jboo, Dina, please, shorty, mayo, LIS, genny, Lawpy, Sporty, Vis, Lupin, AM, alley
please (3) - Cray, MsP, Zenge
Zenge (14) - jboo, Dina, please, shorty, mayo, LIS, genny, Lawpy, Sporty, Vis, Lupin, AM, alley, mkg

23/23
kata (1) - LIS
Vis (1) - Lawpy
Vis (2) - Lawpy, Cray
Cyndia (1) - AM
alley (1) - Lupin
mkg (1) - Dina
Vis (1) - Cray
chaos (1) - Lawpy
mayo (1) - Cyndia
chaos () -
Vis (2) - Cray, Lawpy
mkg () -
Vis (3) - Cray, Lawpy, Dina
Vis (2) - Cray, Dina
alley (2) - Lupin, Lawpy
mayo () -
alley (3) - Lupin, Lawpy, Barks
Cyndia (2) - AM, Sporty
LIS (1) - chaos
Vis (3) - Cray, Dina, genny
pawprints (1) - Cyndia
Vis (4) - Cray, Dina, genny, Trilt
Vis (5) - Cray, Dina, genny, Trilt, shorty
Vis (4) - Cray, Dina, genny, Trilt
AM (1) - shorty
AM (2) - shorty, mayo
kata () -
alley (4) - Lupin, Lawpy, Barks, LIS
AM (3) - shorty, mayo, Vis
kata (1) - pawprints
Cyndia (1) - Sporty
Vis (5) - Cray, Dina, genny, Trilt, AM
Vis (6) - Cray, Dina, genny, Trilt, AM, MsP
Vis (7) - Cray, Dina, genny, Trilt, AM, MsP, kata
kata () -
Vis (8) - Cray, Dina, genny, Trilt, AM, MsP, kata, pawprints
alley (3) - Lupin, Barks, LIS
AM (4) - shorty, mayo, Vis, Lawpy
please (1) - jboo
AM (5) - shorty, mayo, Vis, Lawpy, please
AM (6) - shorty, mayo, Vis, Lawpy, please, alley
alley
(2) - Lupin, LIS
please () -
Vis (9) - Cray, Dina, genny, Trilt, AM, MsP, kata, pawprints, jboo
AM (5) - shorty, mayo, Vis, please, alley
alley
(3) - Lupin, LIS, Lawpy
alley (4) - Lupin, LIS, Lawpy, mkg

22/22
kata (1) - Lawpy
Cyndia (1) - AM
alley (1) - Lupin
AM (1) - shorty
pawprints (1) - please
please (1) - Barks
kata (2) - Lawpy, LIS
AM (2) - shorty, mayo
kata (3) - Lawpy, LIS, Dina
AM (3) - shorty, mayo, chaos
AM (2) - shorty, mayo
kata (4) - Lawpy, LIS, Dina, Trilt
AM (1) - mayo
Cray (1) - shorty
kata (5) - Lawpy, LIS, Dina, Trilt, pawprints
kata (4) - Lawpy, LIS, Trilt, pawprints
Cray (2) - shorty, Dina
alley (2) - Lupin, genny
alley (3) - Lupin, genny, MsP
please () -
Cray (3) - shorty, Dina, Barks
pawprints () -
alley (4) - Lupin, genny, MsP, please
alley (5) - Lupin, genny, MsP, please, Cyndia
Cyndia ()
Cray (4) - shorty, Dina, Barks, AM
AM () -
Cray (5) - shorty, Dina, Barks, AM, mayo
kata (5) - Lawpy, LIS, Trilt, pawprints, jboo
Cray (4) - Dina, Barks, AM, mayo
kata (6) - Lawpy, LIS, Trilt, pawprints, jboo, shorty
alley (6) - Lupin, genny, MsP, please, Cyndia, chaos
alley (7) - Lupin, genny, MsP, please, Cyndia, chaos, Cray
alley (6) - Lupin, genny, MsP, please, Cyndia, Cray
Cray (5) - Dina, Barks, AM, mayo, chaos
Cray (6) - Dina, Barks, AM, mayo, chaos, alley

18/19
Missing: kata
 
So, I think this is a very good question:


Because this was ten minutes to close:



Then chaos and cray make it a heavier alley lead:



But it's only with chaos' swap - in a very fast three minute time frame - that alley makes it a three way tie:



She could have pushed the lynch to kata at that point (7 votes), and avoided the risk for herself. Why didn't she?

The seemingly obvious inference would be that kata is also wolf and alley was trying to save her. But surely wolf!kata has way less value as compared to wolf!alley? So many people were on her that I thought it was scum going for an easy push and it looks like she might be modkilled too
 
mayos? But what about mayos making Zenge the leading wagon in D2
 
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