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[Animal Midwife]

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Who is not in your bloc as of now

kata, Trilt, Cyndia, and mayo (technically pawprints too but she's still a higher village read)

 

[Chaostrodon]

But wolves would want seer to reveal themselves. So they could have been on the wagon at the start but at the end? Unlikely , unless they planned some big brain move and had another scum member lynch the cw immediately after

 

[Animal Midwife]

But wolves would want seer to reveal themselves. So they could have been on the wagon at the start but at the end? Unlikely , unless they planned some big brain move and had another scum member lynch the cw immediately after

alley was just confirmed to be the second-to-last vote (after being on a counterwagon), so I wouldn't rule out late timing for being clearing.

 

[Lawpy]

But wolves would want seer to reveal themselves. So they could have been on the wagon at the start but at the end? Unlikely , unless they planned some big brain move and had another scum member lynch the cw immediately after

If zenges was notified of being seered, the rest of the wolves were likely set on bussing him from start.

 

[Chaostrodon]

Besides if its a bus you should be seeing multiple scum members early . just one scum bussing is w/e

 

[Chaostrodon]

alley was just confirmed to be the second-to-last vote (after being on a counterwagon), so I wouldn't rule out late timing for being clearing.

Not that end , I meant like the end before seer revealed herself , Obviously scum had to get on Zenge after seer reveal

 

[Animal Midwife]

Besides if its a bus you should be seeing multiple scum members early . just one scum bussing is w/e

I think that largely depends on the wolfing style and game. If all wolves suddenly had a scumread on and wanted to vote Zenge at daystart, wouldn't that look a bit odd?

 

[Chaostrodon]

mayo (1) - Lawpy
Zenge (1) - jboo
mayo () -
kata (1) - Lawpy
genny (1) - AM
please (1) - Lupin
please (2) - Lupin, Cray
genny (2) - AM, please
kata (2) - Lawpy, LIS
please (3) - Lupin, Cray, shorty
Zenge (2) - jboo, Dina
Sporty (1) - Trilt
genny (3) - AM, please, Zenge
genny (2) - AM, Zenge
Zenge (3) - jboo, Dina, please
Sporty (2) - Trilt, Cyndia
kata (1) - Lawpy
Sporty (3) - Trilt, Cyndia, LIS
Zenge (4) - jboo, Dina, please, chaos
Zenge (3) - jboo, Dina, please
mkg (1) - chaos
genny (1) - AM
please (4) - Lupin, Cray, shorty, mkg
please (3) - Lupin, Cray, mkg
MsP (1) - alley
chaos (1) - Zenge
Cyndia (1) - mayo
Sporty (2) - Cyndia, LIS
Vis (1) - Trilt
kata () -
genny (2) - AM, Lawpy
Sporty (1) - LIS
genny (3) - AM, Lawpy, Cyndia
AM (1) - shorty
Sporty () -
kata (1) - LIS
kata (2) - LIS, pawprints
kata (1) - pawprints
Sporty (1) - LIS
MsP () -
please (4) - Lupin, Cray, mkg, alley
please (5) - Lupin, Cray, mkg, alley, MsP
Vis (2) - Trilt, genny
Vis (3) - Trilt, genny, kata
genny (2) - Lawpy, Cyndia
Vis (4) - Trilt, genny, kata, AM
AM () -
Zenge (4) - jboo, Dina, please, shorty
LIS (1) - Sporty
Cyndia () -
Zenge (5) - jboo, Dina, please, shorty, mayo
LIS () -
Vis (5) - Trilt, genny, kata, AM, Sporty
Sporty () -
Vis (6) - Trilt, genny, kata, AM, Sporty, LIS
please (6) - Lupin, Cray, mkg, alley, MsP, Vis
Vis (5) - Trilt, genny, kata, AM, Sporty
Zenge (6) - jboo, Dina, please, shorty, mayo, LIS
Vis (4) - Trilt, kata, AM, Sporty
Zenge (7) - jboo, Dina, please, shorty, mayo, LIS, genny
genny (1) - Cyndia
Zenge (8) - jboo, Dina, please, shorty, mayo, LIS, genny, Lawpy
Vis (3) - Trilt, kata, AM
Zenge (9) - jboo, Dina, please, shorty, mayo, LIS, genny, Lawpy, Sporty
please (5) - Lupin, Cray, mkg, alley, MsP
Zenge (10) - jboo, Dina, please, shorty, mayo, LIS, genny, Lawpy, Sporty, Vis
please (4) - Cray, mkg, alley, MsP
Zenge (11) - jboo, Dina, please, shorty, mayo, LIS, genny, Lawpy, Sporty, Vis, Lupin
chaos () -
please (5) - Cray, mkg, alley, MsP, Zenge
Vis (2) - Trilt, kata
Zenge (12) - jboo, Dina, please, shorty, mayo, LIS, genny, Lawpy, Sporty, Vis, Lupin, AM
please (4) - Cray, mkg, MsP, Zenge
Zenge (13) - jboo, Dina, please, shorty, mayo, LIS, genny, Lawpy, Sporty, Vis, Lupin, AM, alley
please (3) - Cray, MsP, Zenge
Zenge (14) - jboo, Dina, please, shorty, mayo, LIS, genny, Lawpy, Sporty, Vis, Lupin, AM, alley, mkg


The part Ive marked with yellow

 

[Lawpy]

Besides if its a bus you should be seeing multiple scum members early . just one scum bussing is w/e

Not everyone likes to bus though

 

[Chaostrodon]

wait why does my spoiler look different

 

[Animal Midwife]

Not that end , I meant like the end before seer revealed herself , Obviously scum had to get on Zenge after seer reveal

Well, the seering was already known so maybe they suspected the seer already got on and didn't want to look bad. Zenge never really tried to defend that hard that cycle (you even thought it looked too easy due to lack of verbal resistance). So I suspect they'd been planning how to make the bus and tmi look natural with carefully placed votes.

 

[Chaostrodon]

And the colour isnt working either?

 

[Animal Midwife]

wait why does my spoiler look different

Where'd you use a spoiler?

 

[Animal Midwife]

And the colour isnt working either?

Oh, you used the inline spoiler. The other spoiler is under the second set of triple dots.

For color, I just highlight the text I want to change and pick from the palette.

 

[Cyndia]

YESS I can talk again!!

That posting restriction was fun for like an hour and then just super freaking frustrating.

 

[Dinashadow]

And the colour isnt working either?

It's a light gray. I saw what you were referring to

 

[Cyndia]

I'm super sleepy but gonna just clarify a few things in pms before I pass out.

I was trying to say earlier that moving groups is my role, not an item, and I can do so again tonight. I just didn't do it previous nights because I didn't have anything I needed to say to anyone.

 

[LetItSnow]

Disingenous. For not including the part where I try unsuccessfully to switch it back to alley

You mean after the deadline?

I'm not giving credit for votes after the deadline.

And you shouldn't try to claim credit for a vote after the deadline.

 

[Chaostrodon]

Well, the seering was already known so maybe they suspected the seer already got on and didn't want to look bad. Zenge never really tried to defend that hard that cycle (you even thought it looked too easy due to lack of verbal resistance). So I suspect they'd been planning how to make the bus and tmi look natural with carefully placed votes.

If that was the case , lots more scum would have gotten on Zenge at some point and made it the leading wagon . See there are two cases , if scum was planning to do something wrt to Zenge being seered

Either they plan to bus to get tred

Or they try to get the seer to reveal

So if mayo is scum , either the people who got on Zenge before him has atleast some scum in it (I think there are zero , anyone thinks otherwise? ) Or

They had planned for scum!mayo to vote Zenge first and scum! LIS to shift plur immediately after , a proposition I dont think scum!LIS or any scum for that matter would be ok with

 

[Chaostrodon]

You mean after the deadline?

I'm not giving credit for votes after the deadline.

And you shouldn't try to claim credit for a vote after the deadline.

That wasnt after the deadline , that was exactly at deadline that wasnt taken into account because according to someone's rules a vote at exactly the deadline isnt taken into account. You cant possibly claim I had put my vote at that time on purpose coz I didnt want it to be unaccounted

 

[Chaostrodon]

I'm adding Barks and LIS to my bloc for being on the original alley yeet D3.

Cant believe you tr for this but not mayo

 

[Animal Midwife]

If that was the case , lots more scum would have gotten on Zenge at some point and made it the leading wagon . See there are two cases , if scum was planning to do something wrt to Zenge being seered

Either they plan to bus to get tred

Or they try to get the seer to reveal

So if mayo is scum , either the people who got on Zenge before him has atleast some scum in it (I think there are zero , anyone thinks otherwise? ) Or

They had planned for scum!mayo to vote Zenge first and scum! LIS to shift plur immediately after , a proposition I dont think scum!LIS or any scum for that matter would be ok with

The votes before mayo got on were the following:

jboo - starting pushing him immediately after D1 ended

Dina - the seer

please - the first counterwagon

shorty - the first later vote

I'm failing to see, especially with Zenge voting you off of any main wagon, that wolves all jumped on early. I think they were on edge waiting for the public confirmation of the seering, so they wouldn't look weird/jumpy for getting on too soon.

Remember mayo's vote was during the 35th hour of the cycle.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Cant believe you tr for this but not mayo

Believe it, son.

 

[Crayola227]

Speaking of, @Crayola227, could you have voted throughout the day today?

Yes, but there was a caveat that once a vote was cast (by mod PM only) it was permanent and could not be switched. I wonder if Lawpy's little trick that one game using it to get around the restriction (sort of angle-shooting) that prompted the mods to change the rule. I woke up to already being tied for lead, so I held the vote to try to get Alley who I favored over Kata.

 

[Chaostrodon]

The votes before mayo got on were the following:

jboo - starting pushing him immediately after D1 ended

Dina - the seer

please - the first counterwagon

shorty - the first later vote

I'm failing to see, especially with Zenge voting you off of any main wagon, that wolves all jumped on early. I think they were on edge waiting for the public conformation of the seering, so they wouldn't look weird/jumpy for getting on.

Remember mayo's vote was during the 35th hour of the cycle.

Exactly what Im saying , if they were waiting for public confirmation , why would they potentially jeorpadise the whole thing by making making mayo vote Zenge?

wdym by vote was during 35th hour , why does that matter

 

[Animal Midwife]

Exactly what Im saying , if they were waiting for public confirmation , why would they potentially jeorpadise the whole thing by making making mayo vote Zenge?

wdym by vote was during 35th hour , why does that matter

At some point, the seer's gonna out the result. Around 9:30, mayo finally voted when Zenge was now almost leading wagon. Do you think it'd look worse to be on or off the vote at this point, knowing the seer will out within the next 30 minutes?

 

[Trilt]

Yes, but there was a caveat that once a vote was cast (by mod PM only) it was permanent and could not be switched. I wonder if Lawpy's little trick that one game using it to get around the restriction (sort of angle-shooting) that prompted the mods to change the rule. I woke up to already being tied for lead, so I held the vote to try to get Alley who I favored over Kata.

What did Lawp do?

 

[Chaostrodon]

At some point, the seer's gonna out the result. Around 9:30, mayo finally voted when Zenge was now almost leading wagon. Do you think it'd look worse to be on or off the vote at this point, knowing the seer will out within the next 30 minutes?

And all the other wolves decided to be off the vote at that point?

 

[Animal Midwife]

And all the other wolves decided to be off the vote at that point?

Unless you think please is a partner, it looks to be that way.

 

[Crayola227]

What did Lawp do?

He was silenced and started moving his vote in the tallies in order to play telephone and answer people's on-thread questions.

Like "Lawpy if you're silenced unvote. Lawpy if you were attacked switch your vote to me " that kind of thing.

 

[Trilt]

He was silenced and started moving his vote in the tallies in order to play telephone and answer people's on-thread questions.

Like "Lawpy if you're silenced unvote. Lawpy if you were attacked switch your vote to me " that kind of thing.

Ah. I feel like the mods could have just said, no using the vote to communicate/respond to people...

 

[Chaostrodon]

Dont you think its a little bit unlikely that one guy decided to make a calculated bus based off the info that was given to him and all the others decided to do nothing , knowing that their teammate was gonna get lynched?

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

skipping dina bc she's like pretty much confirmed villig

genny's been moved into my village block party but i think this could still be useful
also going forward i wanna throw in interactions w alley too bc 2 confirmed wolves, ill go back and do the people ive already done when i restart the alphabet

Spoiler: Day 1

You should really be salt voting AM for having pockets so deep they’re criminal.🤣

Yeet AM

jokey

You can say that, but I think Genny still has the carbon copies from the rent checks she was writing.

jokey pt 2

This is the citiest thing you've said all day.

jokey pt 3

I played with Genny in the basics game. Approaching this from the perspective of reading AM village, there's some things about Genny's interactions here that remind me of that and ping me as wolfy, but also some things that ping me as village. In that game there were some things that really stood out to me, and I kept pushing on and I'm not seeing that much here. For wolfy case on Genny the biggest thing is pushing AM when AM is reading so different from the last game, implying shes village. She didn't vote to yeet though, and I'm not sure if that better or worse? Casting suspicion and not following through isn't good, but since AM is clearly different to me than last game aka shes village now, to me, actually voting AM wouldn't seem good either. Overall it's a pretty weak case for calling Genny a wolf. The village case is a little stronger. I really liked this post

he like flips back and forth on genny all over in this post

It's not Iron Clad or anything but I like the village case for Genny a little bit better than the wolf case. Overall I'm keeping her in neutral for now, because I think all of it is NAI but, since you asked Mayo, and I was the one that led the charge to yeet Genny D1 of basics, I wanted to give you a thorough answer.

this is from the same post

Thank you for bringing this up, I was focused on the AM/Genny interactions and missed this. Not listing any reasons for reads or explanation is definitely building a much stronger wolf case. @holdthemayo I’d actually like to hear your thoughts on Genny and specifically this response to Shorty asking for reasons of her reads.

in future games, if zenge talks about cases too much imma side eye him lol

[TR]
[TD]sus of AM and her misremembering[/TD]
[/TR]

this all she say about genny

Since you’re the only one currently voting for Genny, and you placed your vote before this exchange happened, I’m wondering what your thoughts are on Genny’s refusal to form reads when Shorty pressed her here Specifically if this is something you’ve also seen her do when wolfing before?

not like really casting sus on her but IS drawing attention to her

What were your thoughts on Genny’s refusal to give reads when Shorty pressed her? I know you butt heads a lot with AM but how do you feel about her reasoning for voting Genny? What’s your overall read on Genny now, considering all of that?

more drawing attention to genny

might stop after day 1 bc zenge/genny do not look w/w nearly at all in retrospect

Unyeet chaos
Yeet zenge

she votey him

It’s really not a strong reaction. I’m simply pointing out what I felt like was an incongruity in your logic. You’re complaining that I’m not being analytical enough, and then when I answer Mayo’s question about the Genny/AM interaction, and walk him through my thought process, just because my analysis of that interaction didn’t end with strong feeling on Genny one way or the other, you complain about that too. You can’t have it both ways.

he doesn't sus her, but does call more attention to her

My overall feelings on Genny though have not been hedgy. I’ve been pretty vocal about how I really don’t like Genny refusing to answer Shorty earlier with a list of reads and literally just now posted this in response to Shorty continuing to press for her wolf reads:
In light of Genny’s repeated refusal to make any wolf reads after being asked for the 2nd day in a row:

Yeet Genny

i mean imo they had been flippy floppy but at this point they've both voted for eachother

Pushing my yeet for BS reasons. And there was something closer to day start where he jumped on someone that I’m not going to go find on my short lunch break. It feels like he’s trying to see where he can get traction.

replying to why genny feels z is opportunistic

Okay except you voted to yeet me before I voted to yeet you.

My reasons as stated are that you’ve continued to refuse to proved any wolf reads for the 2nd day in a row after repeated pressing.

this is some real sus of her

Omg stop. You’re going to make me sprain something rolling my eyes at your demands for wolf reads. Work with what you’re given. I’m not going to do a numbered list because that’s not how my brain works.

I said that specifically about my interpretations of the Genny/AM interaction though. I hadn’t been looking at Genny’s posts generally there, just her interaction with AM, which I stand by doesn’t provide a good case either way.

Genny’s repeated refusal to provide wolf reads, does however.

Sunny is that you?



I’m not demanding wolf reads, other people are. And other people have worked with what the thread has given them, and they’ve provided wolf reads of their own.

Yeah, for staters, this didn’t feel right to me:It’s NAI, it’s a joke, but it felt a little too sarcastic considering last game. Again, it’s NAI but it was the first thing that pinged me.

Regarding the AM/Genny interaction, I want to highlight that it’s not that I didn’t see a case for wolf Genny, I did. I could just also see counter arguments.

Since I’m not reading AM anything like her last game, I’m thinking she’s village, so I trust her reasoning on her own Genny vote.

Most recently she completely doges AM’s questions of why she’s voting for me here with a lack of solid reasoning and analysis
And finally, if you ISO her posts she really hasn’t done any real wolf hunting on the thread. I can’t provide examples of a negative, but ISO her posts and tell me you think she’s made an earnest effort at wolf hunting. I don’t see it.

I’m not sure it’s really a good test case since she subbed in half way through and rushed to catch up on 3 dozen pages or so.

Her lack of earnest wolf hunting is similar to her play in Basics though, where she was wolfing.

Also I think it’s pretty rich that she voted for me, calling me opportunistic:
When I didn’t have my vote on anyone, and she literally just sheeped your vote almost immediately after you made it, with this faulty logic:
I hadn’t even voted to yeet her yet, I was calling her out for refusing to post any wolf reads, which is true and continues to be true.

ok im just gonna stop here lol

i mean at this point his lw tunneling her seems a bit much. like sO MUCH its possibly performative. but I remember his sus of her going pretty far into day 2 as well, and with the loud notifications thing going on i dont think he woulda wanted to draw THAT much attention to a fellow packmate.

If people take issue with me stopping here ill finish it but i don't really think i need to

z/alley/genny are w(z)/w(a)/v(g) imo

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

crap I somehow skipped cyndia

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

crap I somehow skipped cyndia

ugheifphewifpew. ill go do that one

 

[Animal Midwife]

Dont you think its a little bit unlikely that one guy decided to make a calculated bus based off the info that was given to him and all the others decided to do nothing , knowing that their teammate was gonna get lynched?

No, considering Dina played it smart and didn't reveal early on (or even during the midday lull). They were forced to painfully wait to see if she'd say anything at all that cycle.

 

[kraskadva]

how does krasky respond

pls tell her its sweat and nothing else

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[Crayola227]

Ah. I feel like the mods could have just said, no using the vote to communicate/respond to people...

I don't know why the rule was this way, that's my guess. Probably explains why mkg voted so late as well.

 

[Crayola227]

So, I think this is a very good question:


Because this was ten minutes to close:



Then chaos and cray make it a heavier alley lead:



But it's only with chaos' swap - in a very fast three minute time frame - that alley makes it a three way tie:



She could have pushed the lynch to kata at that point (7 votes), and avoided the risk for herself. Why didn't she?

I don't know if voting by PM made it harder to watch the tally, it did for me.

 

[Crayola227]

This is enough. So sketchtastic. You either don't care how this makes you look, or it's game related. I don't want to find out what happens when you "power up" from dropping all these game quotes.

Mayo if you're actually confused, mods have had games where there is a "reward" of some kind for players doing certain things. For example, if they make 20 posts a day they get an extra dollar, if they post 10 nice things about Wisconsin in a Wisconsin game, they get an extra ability, that kind of thing.

 

[Crayola227]

Disingenous. For not including the part where I try unsuccessfully to switch it back to alley

A minute too late. Another derpclear?

 

[Crayola227]

But wolves would want seer to reveal themselves. So they could have been on the wagon at the start but at the end? Unlikely , unless they planned some big brain move and had another scum member lynch the cw immediately after

Cw?

 

[Crayola227]

It's a light gray. I saw what you were referring to

I didn't. Can someone repost or explain?

 

[Crayola227]

Unless you think please is a partner, it looks to be that way.

Why have you cleared Please? What am I missing?

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

ok cyndia
im really upset these got out of order🙁

Spoiler: Day 1

Here's Cyndia:

Spoiler

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it was a quote of cyndia's mkg vote

I kind of like how this spreadsheet pasted into here. Trying a slightly different approach from Sunny's screenshots. If somebody doesn't have a comment, either they haven't said much or I didn't remember them posting anything of substance.

cyndia's column is blank

I’m really not feeling great about Cyndia making one fluff post. One post voting to yeet MKG for opening a PM with her, and that’s it. Especially continuing to sit on that vote after it was made clear this is only MKGs 2nd game and first with a mechanic like this.

I hope to see more from her today because right now it feels like she’s kind of flying under the radar with this.

calls attention and some mild sus to cyndia.

I was multitasking while catching up last night so I didn’t have a lot to say. I’ll do a better read through tonight and post my thoughts then.

this was in response to the above post by z

How do you feel about Cyndia’s continued push of MKG?

calls more attention to cyndia

Wait. What? So Genny gets a pass for PMing you, but the game 2 nooblet doesn’t? I don’t get why you’re still pushing MKG.

this was in response to a post by cyndia

Because as I said in the post you quoted - genny ALWAYS starts pms. It's NAI for her. I'm not pushing MKG (and even said I would re-evaluate once I read their recent posts), I was literally just responding to any posts I was tagged in and they all happened to be about MKG since I didn't post much yesterday.

so far im not really going w/w on this but we'll keep going

The most village thing he's doing is his current push of Cyndia.

this throws some srs shade on cyndia

[TD]Cyndia tunnels on MKG just for starting a PM?[/TD]
[/TR]

this is all it says in cyndia's row

[TR]
[TD]Is new (I've never played with her before) so she wouldn't know that Cyndia doesn't like PMs and Genny loves them. Thinks AM is similar to the goats game. Her apology seems genuine regarding the PM opening[/TD]
[/TR]

and she also mentions cyndia in mkg's colu

Neutral:

• Zenge - A few things said here and there seemed a little odd, but this is also my first time playing with them so idk if this is their style. I noted at least one other player saying their style was a bit off this game, so gave that wolf points, but village points because I found myself agreeing with some logic and thoughts in a couple posts.

cyndia doesn't throw any real shade in z's direction here

coming away from D1, i'm really not feeling w/w on cyn/z. cyn/alley theres not really anything to analyze

Spoiler: Day 2

I was leaning pretty heavily on Cyndia for pushing MKG for a bad reason (at least I think so) and then doubling down on it, but I’m feeling a little better about her after posting the reads list she did.

backin off of her a little bit

Doing an ISO of Cyndia:

First content post I did not care for. She Basically starts by yeeting MKG for opening a PM with her, which seems harsh for a game 2 nooblet who's never had this mechanic before. On top of it, she gives Genny a pass for the same thing, because "It's what Genny always does". See here:
Then, even after being informed this is a game two nooblet, doubles down and calls MKG wishy washy I really disagree with the analysis on "wishy washy" MKG. You're free to read it and draw your own conclusions, but it seemed manufactured after the fact to me.

Doubles down again here (triples down?) by adding in that MKG was part of the salt train on AM from last game. For gods sake, its a salt vote. If anyone has reason to be salty at AM for Ggoats its MKG and April.

Defends Genny here, which I won't bore you on why I take issue with that, since I've made my Genny stance clear.
Claims to NOT be pushing MKG here when pressed:
Shifted onto April on the end, but didn't post much analysis on April as to why. Here's that, along with analysis.

Spoiler

Link to post number 495 for reference:

Finally here's her reads list she posted at the end of the last day. It was nice to finally get more from her than she'd been posting which seemed lackluster but it seems like a lot of words with out a ton of analysis. Strong wolf leans on April and Alissa don't look great either.
Hasn't posted today yet. I'm hoping to see more.

calling a lot of attention to her and some like light sus w light redemption and then some sus of her again. flippyfloppy but not in a w/w way, this is reading more in a "if they flip i can justify myself" way

This is weird, and I did not like the follow-up on the following pages where Cyndia just claimed that MKG is wishy-washy and that's why she voted for her. Keeping an eye on them both, even though that interaction was quite a few pages ago.

alley throws some side eye at cyndia but nothing too bad

[TD]doesn't care if genny PMs her, but didn't like MKG Pming her. Didn't like how wishy-washy MKG was either, and that's why she voted for[/TD]
[/TR]

While I appreciate the effort going into this, I'm having a hard time interpreting it since it's still missing a lot and has a lot of summary comments rather than your interpretations. You're still on my unknown list - who are your top couple wolf and village reads?

this was in response to alley's list. it kinda calls attention to alley and not in a good village way but its not super sus'in her either

[TR]
[TD]Z's iso on her brought up again the uneasiness I have about her, especially the over-reaction to MKG starting a PM with her[/TD]
[/TR]

alley's list
i feel like z and alley are calling too much bad attention to her for it to be w/w/v

Cyndia has been vocal about MKG, a neutral lean for me. She wouldn’t fit in with pleasy and she wolf read Mayo a while back.

the same way that z was, has been calling light suspicions on her, enough to build to a vote maybe, but also enough to claim village if cyn flipped imo.

I'm feeling a tiny bit better about Cyndia since her situation with MKG died down somewhat, but I would like to see a bit more from her before I move her to neutral.

same sentiment

Really not liking Cyndia still. See my ISO here for reference: She pushed MKG for a really innocuous reason, especially for a game 2 noob. Doubles down on it. Triples down on it, and then proceeds to deny pushing MKG and winds up on April.

Also Kata: I did my own ISO here which didn't yield as much fruit as I wanted but she's only got like 10 posts. Although I'm noticing one of the few things she did was mention Chaos (see below) and give him a neutral read. She's mentioned almost no one, presumably most people are neutral....why single out chaos in a group of over 20 just to say he's neutral? Speaking of 10 posts, I hadn't noticed until Cray pointed it out but yeah, it's literally exactly 10. Just enough to avoid a mod kill.

Speaking of Chaos, I can definitely see a pack here: I'm really not liking the MKG push right now. Like as far as I can tell this is literally the only post even mentioning MKG
There's literally no reasoning, no analysis, just "oh hey let me throw my vote over here". It's not like there's even been a sold thread case made by anyone for why MKG is being wolfy. Why is this vote? It's bad just like Cyndia's was bad, and I think there's something there.

Jaboo

Spoiler: Jaboo

It's really hard for me to not look at the fact that Jaboo put their vote on me because I didn't post for all of 38 minutes before yeet close while also reading the thread. I'm not going to go around in circles on this because it's just going to make me angry and I'm trying really hard to not me Angry!Zenge this game, but this really is an abusrd reason to be voting for me.

I'm also leaving the Eel Pool open for cases like MsP who's not as bad as she was in Basics, but still seems to be flying under the radar. I'm also not...not... looking at Genny still, but my main issue was the refusal to play ball and she seems to have changed her tune.

more bad attention to cyndia

at this point, we're pretty far into D2 and with out without loud notifications, esp with, the wolves cant be calling this much attention to a packmate when theyre losing z.

in kind of a round about, innocent by association way, i dont think its very likely that zenge/alley/cyndia are w/w/w. makes me feel better about cyndia

ok now its bed time

 

[Crayola227]

Ah. I feel like the mods could have just said, no using the vote to communicate/respond to people...

Remember how sus it looked that mkg held her vote? I think that's part of the point of how this silencing works. It makes the silenced look pretty bad.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Why have you cleared Please? What am I missing?

If I'm assuming alley didn't try to late bus her while Zenge was already a wagon on D2, she looks pretty good.

 

[Dinashadow]

I didn't. Can someone repost or explain?

He was just pointing out in the tracker where mayo voted zenge and how it pushed zenge into the lead

 

[Crayola227]

skipping dina bc she's like pretty much confirmed villig

genny's been moved into my village block party but i think this could still be useful
also going forward i wanna throw in interactions w alley too bc 2 confirmed wolves, ill go back and do the people ive already done when i restart the alphabet

Spoiler: Day 1

jokey

jokey pt 2

jokey pt 3


he like flips back and forth on genny all over in this post

this is from the same post

in future games, if zenge talks about cases too much imma side eye him lol

this all she say about genny

not like really casting sus on her but IS drawing attention to her

more drawing attention to genny

might stop after day 1 bc zenge/genny do not look w/w nearly at all in retrospect


she votey him


he doesn't sus her, but does call more attention to her


i mean imo they had been flippy floppy but at this point they've both voted for eachother


replying to why genny feels z is opportunistic

this is some real sus of her






ok im just gonna stop here lol

i mean at this point his lw tunneling her seems a bit much. like sO MUCH its possibly performative. but I remember his sus of her going pretty far into day 2 as well, and with the loud notifications thing going on i dont think he woulda wanted to draw THAT much attention to a fellow packmate.

If people take issue with me stopping here ill finish it but i don't really think i need to

z/alley/genny are w(z)/w(a)/v(g) imo

Lw tunneling?

 

[Animal Midwife]

A minute too late. Another derpclear?

Nah, that's just pulling a Pippy.