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supershorty said:
Challenge, maybe, but I've more than that. Over multiple days.

I'm not going to lie, it pisses me off when I've been busting my ass over the whole game and someone who subs in for a poster who didn't do jack to help the village cherry picks a couple things in my posting history while ignoring the other 300+ posts and the amount of work I've put in on my reads, revisions, and ISOs.
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samac said:
One question someone may be able to answer if its been discussed and I've missed it - do we know what caused the GIF post restriction?
This makes an entire day of it for both shorty and cyndia make it very difficult to iso because you have to open them individually.
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Probably another player's ability.
 
samac said:
One question someone may be able to answer if its been discussed and I've missed it - do we know what caused the GIF post restriction?
This makes an entire day of it for both shorty and cyndia make it very difficult to iso because you have to open them individually.
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My notification indicated a person did it (paraphrased: "someone whispered in your ear while you were asleep").

samac said:
Why are you so defensive? I said I was conflicted after reading you village the entire time in tot chat. I didn't even place you as a wolf lean, just that I think those early things need to be kept in mind. I was actually looking for your wolf read of Zenge to fully solidify you as village but found it was later than I thought.
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I'm annoyed. Like I said, I've spent a ton of time and effort doing everything I can think of to help village between reads, ISOs, data dumping, and revisions as needed. It's really frustrating to put in that much effort and then have people cherry pick 2 things in my posts from D1. Like, the number of hours I've spent on ISOs/revisions in this game is something I'd rather not actually think about - but they've helped me because I've revised reads on people who I might have pushed to yeet otherwise (like alissa, or pleasy, and I've changed my lean on Lupin after looking at her VCA today) or people I wanted to read wrong (because I wanted to lean village on Zenge at first and then ISOing him made me lean the other direction). I'm not good at reads on their own and I know that - that's why I'm doing the other analyses and repeating them periodically. But it takes a lot of effort and it's frustrating when people don't look at that.
 
Animal Midwife said:
Probably another player's ability.
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I guess my question is the weird order of it then. Happening 2 days in a row, not the first 2 days and not today. It's weird.
supershorty said:
My notification indicated a person did it (paraphrased: "someone whispered in your ear while you were asleep").


I'm annoyed. Like I said, I've spent a ton of time and effort doing everything I can think of to help village between reads, ISOs, data dumping, and revisions as needed. It's really frustrating to put in that much effort and then have people cherry pick 2 things in my posts from D1. Like, the number of hours I've spent on ISOs in this game is something I'd rather not actually think about - but they've helped me because I've revised reads on people who I might have pushed to yeet otherwise (like alissa, or pleasy, and I've changed my lean on Lupin after looking at her VCA today) or people I wanted to read wrong (because I wanted to lean village on Zenge at first and then ISOing him made me lean the other direction). I'm not good at reads on their own and I know that - that's why I'm doing the other analyses and repeating them periodically. But it takes a lot of effort and it's frustrating when people don't look at that.
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Thanks for clarifying on the notification!
I'm coming into this on day 5, having done no ISOs and reading along casually. My only real way to do this is to go player by player and I admit I omitted your entire gif day because I don't have time for that. So instead of looking day by day I'm just looking overall and that's something that left me conflicted. Didn't mean anything against your gameplay by it and I say the amount of work you've put in is impressive, but you very well could have upped your game after the stuff with Zenge.
 
samac said:
So right now I'm not going to have a lot of quotes to pull because this damn thing is 91 pages long and a bear. This is going mostly off feels.
First off I have to say Kata has been minimally active and disappeared completely yesterday and I got the pleasure of stepping in the hot seat she left for me. She is exactly the kind of player that would be low hanging fruit for the wolves to try and yeet and I think we need to look at those who have been pushing the misyeet wagon heavily. I'm going to have to look back through posts to see exactly who was pushing the hardest, I haven't had a lot of time to do that yet.

Chaos - Consistently had voted on a random person. No wagons. Feels like he could be trying to fly under the radar. The only thing giving me pause here is Zenge throwing a vote there. But if chaos wasn’t taking easy heat it could have easily been some light bussing. Wolf chat could have coached him on the 10 pm thing. Find him sus. Wolfy.
AM - I had her as wolf early on, her 20Q style reminded me of her wolf style, but later play and this early post from alley when there was no need to bus puts her on the village side of things for me.

Mayo - Seems like the mayo we've had that has been village. He brings a chaotic energy to villaging that he doesn't for wolfing. I called him village last time as a wolf in an attempt to pocket him but I feel like his behaviors are no different this game than last.
Dina - If she's a wolf I'll eat my left shoe.
Please - Another one I'm now village reading due to the alley posts on her. Alley stated Zenge was more helpful, voted for her multiple times. Village lean, but looking at Bark's posts and the call out on the switch of the Zenge read makes me nervous to put her full village.
Barks - likely a village rez. I like that she had a vote on alley on Saturday and talked about how she wanted to yeet her but changed to Vis when it wasn't taking off.
Paws - Has been rolling extremely under the radar for me. Actually forgot she was in this game until I was checking the roster. I don't like her reads list given AM, and Barks are her strongest wolf reads when at that point barks hadn't done anything that hit me as wolf. Kata was her other strongest wolf read which as I mentioned is an easy misyeet target. She gave absolutely no info with that reads list and just ran off. Wolf lean.
Cray - Likely village. Playing totally different then the game I toted and she was a wolf, she seems to be in her usual post dump play style. Only thing not making me put her into full village is some WIFOM that she knows how that game went so she's actively being a much better wolf.
Shorty - Conflicted. I had originally cleared her completely in my head with going after Z, but now with the mention of loud actions she would have known he was seered on day 2 when she really started . She very well could have bussed him for village cred and it was totally working until I started to look through her stuff. She also made a comment day 1 defending alley for minimal activity. I have never seen her wolf but I'm well aware she is very good at it and I'm skittish.
Lawpy - He has wayyyy to many posts for m. If I'm reading it right it came back at 560 results. I don't even know what to do with that.
It would be an excellent wolf strategy to clog up the searches with hundreds of 1 sentence posts, but those of you who've played more say that's normal right? I'd honestly like to yeet him to prevent ever attempting that search again.


THIS IS SO MUCH AND I NEED A BREAK. I'm gonna get some ice cream while y'all have this.
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So are your wolf leans pawprints and chaos? I’m not sure how you’re reading lawpy. What do you think of pawprints reads list that many people thought was village?
 
Animal Midwife said:
please posted very minimally, but I was shocked to see jboo still hasn't posted either. Apparently, I was just remembering her likes.
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Samac said she wasn't silenced, right? That may leave one more cig on the table if used last night as well.
 
Animal Midwife said:
How do you know it didn't happen today?
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That's fair, I don't. Just making assumptions by the lack of it happening.

Interestingly GIF day seems to be the most active Cyndia was.
Overall her posts have lacked any depth and they're very surface reads. I liked her clearing mkg, but mkg was dead the next day so that would be an easy way to gain village cred. I don't know her that well, but she was on the alley vote - is she a busser?. She could have saved her packmate by switching to cray or Kata which seems like weird strategy to keep the 3 way tie, but wolves had to have let that tie happen and if they were smart they would have spread out across all 3. I could see her being wolf-y.
Barkley13 said:
So are your wolf leans pawprints and chaos? I’m not sure how you’re reading lawpy. What do you think of pawprints reads list that many people thought was village?
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For that part of the roster yes I'm wolf leaning paw prints and chaos. Did paw prints post a more recent list then the one where she called out kata, you, and AM as wolf? Sorry trying to play catch up I'm likely over looking things. I think that reads list is wrong and she was going to push a kata misyeat, but I may have missed something newer?
I'm not sure how I'm reading lawpy being totally honest. I don't know how to go about it with the sheer volume of post and the 1-2 lines in each post.

Lupin21 said:
Samac said she wasn't silenced, right? That may leave one more cig on the table if used last night as well.
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Correct. Kata was not silenced she just didn't get on.

Alright on that note y'all know its my bed time. I'll do what I can tomorrow. Glad to be joining y'all!
 
samac said:
That's fair, I don't. Just making assumptions by the lack of it happening.

Interestingly GIF day seems to be the most active Cyndia was.
Overall her posts have lacked any depth and they're very surface reads. I liked her clearing mkg, but mkg was dead the next day so that would be an easy way to gain village cred. I don't know her that well, but she was on the alley vote - is she a busser?. She could have saved her packmate by switching to cray or Kata which seems like weird strategy to keep the 3 way tie, but wolves had to have let that tie happen and if they were smart they would have spread out across all 3. I could see her being wolf-y.
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alley was already outted in a similar manner to Zenge so I can't clear any voters that weren't already pushing her by D3.
 
supershorty said:
Actually, on a quick skim, there's nothing from please or jaboo too.
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Animal Midwife said:
please posted very minimally, but I was shocked to see jboo still hasn't posted either. Apparently, I was just remembering her likes.
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Yeah yeah, gimme a slap on the wrist and whatnot. I skim through the comments throughout the day (and like some) so I don’t have a wall of text to read when I post during the evening. Finals are next week so my workload is a bit insane right now, hence my absence.
 
jaboo said:
Yeah yeah, gimme a slap on the wrist and whatnot. I skim through the comments throughout the day (and like some) so I don’t have a wall of text to read when I post during the evening. Finals are next week so my workload is a bit insane right now, hence my absence.
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No slapping, just wanted to know if you were silenced, which you clearly are not. 🙂
 
samac said:
Did paw prints post a more recent list then the one where she called out kata, you, and AM as wolf? Sorry trying to play catch up I'm likely over looking things. I think that reads list is wrong and she was going to push a kata misyeat, but I may have missed something newer?
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Yes, that list. It may be wrong but do you think it's wolfy?
 
samac said:
One question someone may be able to answer if its been discussed and I've missed it - do we know what caused the GIF post restriction?
This makes an entire day of it for both shorty and cyndia make it very difficult to iso because you have to open them individually.
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Animal Midwife said:
Probably another player's ability.
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This has been rolling around in my head, too. I’m not sure if it is village or wolf affiliated (or 3p for that matter). I’m leaning towards wolfy since it’s so difficult to communicate.
 
samac said:
For that part of the roster yes I'm wolf leaning paw prints and chaos.
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Anyway this is my problem. You said you were looking at anyone who was pushing kata because she was an easy misyeet for being quiet but your two main wolf reads are two of the quietest people so wouldn't that also be an easy misyeet?
 
Barkley13 said:
Anyway this is my problem. You said you were looking at anyone who was pushing kata because she was an easy misyeet for being quiet but you're two main wolf reads are two of the quietest people so wouldn't that also be an easy misyeet?
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rip I used the wrong your
 
Lupin21 said:
would make sense for wolves to make cyndia have a gif restriction if they knew alley was going to be silenced. Good as fodder as any. Would still like to know about the moving though.
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Everyone knew the difference between being silenced and being post restricted by that point though, didn't they?
 
Animal Midwife said:
Everyone knew the difference between being silenced and being post restricted by that point though, didn't they?
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yeah, but cyndia was already a person of interest, so maybe they hoped she would minimally post and just get caught in the crossfire. They had to try something I imagine to throw off the obvious. And look, cray almost got lynched too by luck of another cig. Although, I don't guess cray actually stated she had a cig. Did she? Eh, it's late.
 
I keep going back and forth on whether cyndia is village or not. She seems village in PMs, but I know I'm easily swayed.
 
What does everyone think of Trilt? She's on my POE and I'm nervous about her :laugh:

Her posts seem village, but her votes say wolf.
 
samac said:
So right now I'm not going to have a lot of quotes to pull because this damn thing is 91 pages long and a bear. This is going mostly off feels.
First off I have to say Kata has been minimally active and disappeared completely yesterday and I got the pleasure of stepping in the hot seat she left for me. She is exactly the kind of player that would be low hanging fruit for the wolves to try and yeet and I think we need to look at those who have been pushing the misyeet wagon heavily. I'm going to have to look back through posts to see exactly who was pushing the hardest, I haven't had a lot of time to do that yet.

Chaos - Consistently had voted on a random person. No wagons. Feels like he could be trying to fly under the radar. The only thing giving me pause here is Zenge throwing a vote there. But if chaos wasn’t taking easy heat it could have easily been some light bussing. Wolf chat could have coached him on the 10 pm thing. Find him sus. Wolfy.
AM - I had her as wolf early on, her 20Q style reminded me of her wolf style, but later play and this early post from alley when there was no need to bus puts her on the village side of things for me.

Mayo - Seems like the mayo we've had that has been village. He brings a chaotic energy to villaging that he doesn't for wolfing. I called him village last time as a wolf in an attempt to pocket him but I feel like his behaviors are no different this game than last.
Dina - If she's a wolf I'll eat my left shoe.
Please - Another one I'm now village reading due to the alley posts on her. Alley stated Zenge was more helpful, voted for her multiple times. Village lean, but looking at Bark's posts and the call out on the switch of the Zenge read makes me nervous to put her full village.
Barks - likely a village rez. I like that she had a vote on alley on Saturday and talked about how she wanted to yeet her but changed to Vis when it wasn't taking off.
Paws - Has been rolling extremely under the radar for me. Actually forgot she was in this game until I was checking the roster. I don't like her reads list given AM, and Barks are her strongest wolf reads when at that point barks hadn't done anything that hit me as wolf. Kata was her other strongest wolf read which as I mentioned is an easy misyeet target. She gave absolutely no info with that reads list and just ran off. Wolf lean.
Cray - Likely village. Playing totally different then the game I toted and she was a wolf, she seems to be in her usual post dump play style. Only thing not making me put her into full village is some WIFOM that she knows how that game went so she's actively being a much better wolf.
Shorty - Conflicted. I had originally cleared her completely in my head with going after Z, but now with the mention of loud actions she would have known he was seered on day 2 when she really started . She very well could have bussed him for village cred and it was totally working until I started to look through her stuff. She also made a comment day 1 defending alley for minimal activity. I have never seen her wolf but I'm well aware she is very good at it and I'm skittish.
Lawpy - He has wayyyy to many posts for m. If I'm reading it right it came back at 560 results. I don't even know what to do with that.
It would be an excellent wolf strategy to clog up the searches with hundreds of 1 sentence posts, but those of you who've played more say that's normal right? I'd honestly like to yeet him to prevent ever attempting that search again.


THIS IS SO MUCH AND I NEED A BREAK. I'm gonna get some ice cream while y'all have this.
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I'm hurt.
 
samac said:
So right now I'm not going to have a lot of quotes to pull because this damn thing is 91 pages long and a bear. This is going mostly off feels.
First off I have to say Kata has been minimally active and disappeared completely yesterday and I got the pleasure of stepping in the hot seat she left for me. She is exactly the kind of player that would be low hanging fruit for the wolves to try and yeet and I think we need to look at those who have been pushing the misyeet wagon heavily. I'm going to have to look back through posts to see exactly who was pushing the hardest, I haven't had a lot of time to do that yet.

Chaos - Consistently had voted on a random person. No wagons. Feels like he could be trying to fly under the radar. The only thing giving me pause here is Zenge throwing a vote there. But if chaos wasn’t taking easy heat it could have easily been some light bussing. Wolf chat could have coached him on the 10 pm thing. Find him sus. Wolfy.
AM - I had her as wolf early on, her 20Q style reminded me of her wolf style, but later play and this early post from alley when there was no need to bus puts her on the village side of things for me.

Mayo - Seems like the mayo we've had that has been village. He brings a chaotic energy to villaging that he doesn't for wolfing. I called him village last time as a wolf in an attempt to pocket him but I feel like his behaviors are no different this game than last.
Dina - If she's a wolf I'll eat my left shoe.
Please - Another one I'm now village reading due to the alley posts on her. Alley stated Zenge was more helpful, voted for her multiple times. Village lean, but looking at Bark's posts and the call out on the switch of the Zenge read makes me nervous to put her full village.
Barks - likely a village rez. I like that she had a vote on alley on Saturday and talked about how she wanted to yeet her but changed to Vis when it wasn't taking off.
Paws - Has been rolling extremely under the radar for me. Actually forgot she was in this game until I was checking the roster. I don't like her reads list given AM, and Barks are her strongest wolf reads when at that point barks hadn't done anything that hit me as wolf. Kata was her other strongest wolf read which as I mentioned is an easy misyeet target. She gave absolutely no info with that reads list and just ran off. Wolf lean.
Cray - Likely village. Playing totally different then the game I toted and she was a wolf, she seems to be in her usual post dump play style. Only thing not making me put her into full village is some WIFOM that she knows how that game went so she's actively being a much better wolf.
Shorty - Conflicted. I had originally cleared her completely in my head with going after Z, but now with the mention of loud actions she would have known he was seered on day 2 when she really started . She very well could have bussed him for village cred and it was totally working until I started to look through her stuff. She also made a comment day 1 defending alley for minimal activity. I have never seen her wolf but I'm well aware she is very good at it and I'm skittish.
Lawpy - He has wayyyy to many posts for m. If I'm reading it right it came back at 560 results. I don't even know what to do with that.
It would be an excellent wolf strategy to clog up the searches with hundreds of 1 sentence posts, but those of you who've played more say that's normal right? I'd honestly like to yeet him to prevent ever attempting that search again.


THIS IS SO MUCH AND I NEED A BREAK. I'm gonna get some ice cream while y'all have this.
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More specifically, I'm a little surprised to not make the list at all. Especially since we've PM'd. Obviously there was no substance to the PM, but I should be on your radar one way or another.
 
Dinashadow said:
What does everyone think of Trilt? She's on my POE and I'm nervous about her :laugh:

Her posts seem village, but her votes say wolf.
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She's in my POE based on who all I've been able to clear at this point. I think the only unknown left she pushed is samac which would be telling on Trilt either way imo.
 
Dinashadow said:
What does everyone think of Trilt? She's on my POE and I'm nervous about her :laugh:

Her posts seem village, but her votes say wolf.
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Trilt's posts are village or very good wolf, in which case hat's off, nice job, shame on me, etc. If I'm wrong I'm ok with it; I don't mind losing to good play.

I keep moving Trilt more village.
 
I still see no reason to move off kata/samac, but I do not wish to lose to a radar-dodging Cyndia.

lynch Cyndia

... but as stated, still perfectly ok with a kata/samac vote.
 
supershorty said:
I fell behind on my spreadsheet when I was doing all the gifs, but I updated the final votes for each person each day:

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I'm very interested to hear samac's reads when she comes back. Going to take a closer look at a few other people in the meantime.
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Color coding 😍

And also all of y’all who use spreadsheets for this game, kudos. I just don’t have the energy for that anymore.
 
jaboo said:
Do you not see his voting history? It’s not a smoking gun, but it at least warrants questioning.
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Yeah. Even if I ignore the derpclear, it looks pretty good for how infrequently he's posted tbh.
 
What do people think of MsP , I pointed out Msp-Zenge interactions could be w/w , and I find that Msp-alley interactions have been pretty similiar
 
hi y'all long school day
so a couple of thoughts;

chaos' at yeet vote is kinda bothering me, esp followed up by all of the questions after yeet abt how tie works. it reminded me of what shorty said about her playing up the noob card in the noob game to skate by as a wolf. the issue is after looking at their interactions, i can't really see him w/w with zenge. I haven't looked at his alley interactions though.

hi samac! im sorry you're in the hot seat bc of a low poster. you remain in my POE.

also based off of their interactions i really don't see cyndia, z and alley being w/w/w. now her behavior alone didn't skootch her into village reads, but i have a light village lean after looking at those interactions bc they just don't read like a pack to me. and now that we know there's at least 1 neutral, i agree that i don't think multiple packs are likely. I guess it doesn't RO lone wolf though. and then i didn't notice it until samac pointed it out, but i guess it is a little odd that her most active day was her gif day. it's an easy day to look like you're making a lot of effort to communicate w the village. Idk how to feel about cyndia, in summary lol
 
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