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[kaydubs]

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So many votes 😵

 

[Animal Midwife]

So? Thats still info and one person we dont have to look at???

Well, if it were to become a distracting issue, she'd probably reveal it. But until then, it's likely useful to see everyone handles the slot including TMI wolves. Or, at least, that's how I'd handle it as a seer.

 

[supershorty]

So? Thats still info and one person we dont have to look at???

It also gives the wolves information on who not to kill at night though, since 3ps don't usually count toward village parity. If we're going to lose someone to NK, it's better for village for it to be a 3p.

I think Dina had said she would reveal it closer to yeet close if it was needed (ie if we were focused on that person instead of on a wolf).

 

[kaydubs]

Day 5 You Were Born To Do Great Things Vote Tally

Cyndia (4) - AM, Dina, LIS, Trilt
Chaostrodon (1) - samac
mayo (1) - Cray
samac (1) - supershorty
pawprints (1) - jaboo

8/17

winning: @Cyndia

Missing: @Cyndia @holdthemayo @Ms Procrastinator @Lawpy @Chaostrodon @Barkley13 @pawprintsandponytails @Lupin21 @vetschoolsletmeinplease

Deadline: 10pm EST on 3/10/21 (~ 11.25 hours)

 

[Chaostrodon]

So what does 3p mean in your games , From what Im used to , 3p generally tend to either have killing powers or anti town wincons

 

[Animal Midwife]

So what does 3p mean in your games , From what Im used to , 3p generally tend to either have killing powers or anti town wincons

Just "neither villager nor wolf". No specification about ability or wincon.

 

[supershorty]

So what does 3p mean in your games , From what Im used to , 3p generally tend to either have killing powers or anti town wincons

I've only seen 3ps in a couple of the games that I played, but one of them just had to survive to endgame for their wincon, the other was a serial killer. So seems like they can range across the whole spectrum.

 

[Chaostrodon]

I've only seen 3ps in a couple of the games that I played, but one of them just had to survive to endgame for their wincon, the other was a serial killer. So seems like they can range across the whole spectrum.

So wouldnt it be better to reveal in case its a serial killer? Hunting for SK can be much harder than hunting for mafia in my opinion

 

[Animal Midwife]

So wouldnt it be better to reveal in case its a serial killer? Hunting for SK can be much harder than hunting for mafia in my opinion

There would be more multikill nights if we're dealing with an sk though, wouldn't there?

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

*******not dead just not a real game post******
Y’all
This game is invasive
I was catching up and I saw the talk about whether Dina should reveal the neutral and I was like what the heck Mayo already revealed go read the thread
I DREAMT Mayo revealed his 3p role
Christ
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[Animal Midwife]

*******not dead just not a real game post******
Y’all
This game is invasive
I was catching up and I saw the talk about whether Dina should reveal the neutral and I was like what the heck Mayo already revealed go read the thread
I DREAMT Mayo revealed his 3p role
Christ
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lmao imagine if mayo were the 3p and you foretold it

 

[supershorty]

lmao imagine if mayo were the 3p and you foretold it

Pleasy as Real Life seer

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

I’m not really feeling the cyndia vote tbh
She’s not cleared for me by any means but after looking at the interactions and REALLY not feeling w/w she’s in a better place than pawprints imo
I wanna put more pressure on pawprints

yeet pawprints

 

[Barkley13]

I feel like everyone in the POE I don't know how to feel about because they haven't done anything super sketchy but also nothing super village so will go here

yeet samac

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

lawpy's turn
im not looking forward to this one since lawpy posts a crap ton

btw, have we heard from lawpy yet this cycle? I'm pretty sure we havent but i wanted to make sure that didn't change overnight and i missed it

Spoiler: Day 1, no night 1

Wait wasn't she village in that game?

in response to z's msp vote

Yes. Who came on 5 minutes to close and intentionally tried to make a tie to yeet two villagers.

If she comes on and actually posts before just 5 minutes to close I’ll move my vote, but I want to put pressure here early.

same interaction

I sort of understand where you're going with this. You're trying to pressure MSP to avoid a repeat of her antivillage play. It's just that her antivillage play isn't necessarily indicative of her being wolfy.

and then i think the interaction ends here. not an indicitave interaction

Lawpy is this a salt vote or is this real?

in response to lawpy's vote on visc

🧂🧂🧂🧂

The salt remains deep

I think @Zenge142 @holdthemayo and others know more about the game story than a 20 min youtube video but here goes. It's D1 but i want to lay it out before i forget

Here’s the list of all the quotes relating to the matter:
I think this was very much a serious statement based on the quotes, which is a pretty weird reasoning to use to clear someone as village.

this is about lupin clearing april

That first quote read like a joke to me

I read it as serious, but I could see how one would read it as a joke. It’s the follow up where it seems like she’s doubling down that makes me think it was serious.

Yes the followup made things weird but i read it as Lupins trying to separate her aprils read from her claim that there's one wolf in the rapid initial AM wagon.

I sort of read it as Lupin trying to obfuscate and distract from the weird clearing of April by misdirecting into a conversation about AM’s salt wagon.

Hmm. Not sure. It's definitely something i'm keeping in mind since chaos's post raised related points

another interaction that talks about other people, not each other, which doesn't necc mean anything

So zenges is in your neutral/unknown reads?

from shorty's reads list. i guess worthy to note that there was a lot of people missing from the list, and lawpy chose to bring up zenge (and then lupin)

That... that's a fun way to look at it 🏙️🏙️

in response to zenge's city/towny thing

Also what are your thoughts on zenges and lupin's later posts?

bringin up z/lupin again but i think this might be trying to get a feel for if its w/v/w/w/v/w etc

So which are you reading more wolfy MKG or Pleasy?

in response to lawpy's reasoning behind the mkg vote

Here's Lawpy:

Spoiler

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quoting lawpy's mkg vote reasoning

This "reserving judgement" stuff feels weird.

from the same quote i posted above

To clarify, I said I think MKG is similar to the last game. My judgement is about the situation. I’m waiting to see how it develops and if I think there’s a wolfy involvement, or if it’s garden variety Village paranoia.

then lawpy says "Ok that makes sense" a few posts later the alley one was just in between;

[TR]
[TD]questioning and joking around, he seems very chill (but I haven't seen him wolf yet hmm)[/TD]
[/TR]

this what in lawpy's row

Why is pleasy lean village if her overexplanation is wolfy?

in response to alley's list

[TR]
[TD]Called out pawprints b/c he can't read her, I like his logic and his questions seem genuine. Has a wild tinfoil theory (related to bioshock)[/TD]
[/TR]

new list, lawpy's row

[TR]
[TD]Thinks Lawpy is village, very defensive this game but not questioning people a ton[/TD]
[/TR]

from same list, AM's row

[TR]
[TD]Called out Z's vote change as sketchy, along with Lawpy tagging a quiet player. Misremembered the past/totally forgot that Lawpy made the emoji game, which seems NAI. Defending MsP because she's playing more pro-village this game and could be misyeet bait[/TD]
[/TR]

from same list, dina's row

[TR]
[TD]She got overly defensive about her vote towards lawpy and AM both when they questioned her. Claims that AM doesn't like wolfing, so that could be why she is extra "saucy" this game, just like last game when she was wolfing[/TD]
[/TR]

from same list, alissa's row. this kinda reminds me of the one list where she focused way too much on zenge. hmm.

Because I think that is just pleasy being pleasy. She tends to have a lot of fluffy, but on later pages she was posting questions on thread and contributing in addition to her fluff. Others noted that her overexplanation in the original yeet vote could be part of her wolf meta, but I'm not quite convinced. Basically, her 1 joke post vs the other contributions still has me leaning her village

this was in response to lawpy asking about my read on the first list

Valid. I never finished reading the goat game, so I'm not completely sure what wolf!AM looks like, but she apparently tricked a lot of people. I am not the best at reading her, so her being "saucier" this game is about all I have noticed.

and in response to lawpy saying her AM read is "recycled"

Hmm alleys, i'm getting scared of you again 🙁

**everytime i see this post i laugh bc theres that one tiktok sound thats like "bestie.. bestie im getting scared of you....BESTIE"

Sorry! Trying to play catch-up but I'm very sleepy. I'm frustrated since pretty much everything I was pondering and thinking about has already been said.

AM gave me wolfy vibes and seems different from the other games I've played with her. If I have time I think reading the goats game will help me so I can see if I can pick out any nuances, but I was like 40 page behind last time I checked that thread.

It doesn’t. But putting a yeet vote on isn’t permanent either. You can yeet to apply pressure and see what comes of it. It seemed like, at least temporarily, my pressuring MsP got her to at least come on and defend herself.

Although at this point it seems like that’s basically all she did, which is starting to make me feel not so great about the situation. Tomorrow’s a new day though, and at least she actually has posted, which is more than I can say for some.

a pretty casual response to lawpy's post about criticizing antiplay styles, then lawpy just says "agreed"

Wolf reads: vissy, pleasy, alleys, katas, +/- genny

Village reads: AM, you, zenges, LIS, Trouts, Cray

one wolf in the village, other in the wolves

How are you reading pleasy, MKG and alleys?

in response to kata giving some reads

Zenge142 you may be right if MSP only responds to pressure votes

Yep. She reacted to something recently so shes here. It really seems like she only came on to defend herself from my pressure. I'm fully expecting a repeat of Basics.

I am caught up through page 13. Here's my spreadsheet with notes from pages 7-13.

Player	Note
Neptune's Bounty
1. Animal Midwife	Why is lawpy in her village bloc? Questioning? He's asked some questions but not sure if that should place him strongly in the village bloc. Her reads list and then further explanations makes me feel better about her possibly being village and not a wolf.
2. @Zenge142
3. @Aprilthearab	Her back and forth with AM on page 7 is interesting.
4. @Dinashadow
5. @pawprintsandponytails
Arcadia
6. @Trilt	I agree a lot with her post regarding Alissa (#571). The yeet, unyeet, is weird.
7. @holdthemayo	Mayo, who actually understands what bioshock is, thinks that Lawpy's tinfoil might have some merit. Interesting. He hates PMs. Tone seems less serious. Has been posting game quotes (could they mean something??)
8. @Crayola227
9. @vetschoolsletmeinplease	hedging some more, but that's typical for her and is NAI in my book
10. @alissa14	More defense of her vote switch, but then calls out April's response to my salt vote. Not sure why "ouch" is overdone. She said that AM was being abrasive like when AM was a wolf. Also called out Barks for fluff. Mechanics discussion about Lawpy's tinfoil, says there might be 6-7 wolves, maybe 2 factions, maybe a 3P. Very angry, claims that anyone still trying to read into her vote switch that was a "dumb move" will go further down her wolf list.
Fort Frolic
11. @supershorty
12. @Lawpy

this is an interesting one bc lawpy is mention in 3 people's rows, but lawpy's row is blank. very similar to the zenge thing and gives lawpy a guilty by association point.

I'm not including n1 bc im skipping it bc im in too stressed of a mind state to read through the sunshine/lawpy/mayo interactions. idk and idc if anything happened in there i aint touchin it

Spoiler: Day 2

Just me, you, Lawpy, Chaos, and Mayo are the guys.

just a MENtion. hahaha im funny

Could you provide updated wolf reads pls?

in response to a post by alley

There's something about pleasy and zenges voting together on genny that's bothering me

I'm not sure if it's W/V/V or W/W/V.

It feels like the latter

day 2, we gotta start thinkin about loud notifications. we haven't seen anything from lawpy to indicate he's wolf reading zenge at this point, and z gets moved into a w or v in an interaction situation instead of a solid v

As in you think there's only one wolf among genny, pleasy and zenges?

later on but about the same set of interactions as up above

[TR]
[TD]posted reads list with no explanation or reasoning: Wolf reads: vissy, pleasy, alleys, katas, +/- genny Village reads: AM, shorty, zenges, LIS, Trouts, Cray.

im omitting anything about the stressful interaction . this is in lawpy's row and then lawpy is only mentioned again in sunshine's row
this feels like a bit of subtle shade

Pleasy and zenges is coming off as V/W to me. Its just that pleasy looks sketchier to me

this doesn't align w loud notifications

How are you reading zenges?

in response to a post by AM

[TR]
[TD]Very anti-lazy gameplay (understandably) but Wonders if sunny was killed by a vig? Her death doesn't make much sense[/TD]
[/TR]

this is what's in lawpy's row, again, omitted some stuff

[TR]
[TD]showed up after yeet, then asked why it wasn't night. He uses a lot of acronyms that I don't fully get (sl=scum lean, tl=town lean?). Thought his theory about Lawpy trying *so hard* to appear village and is "overdoing" it was original. Everything I've seen suggests he is playing pro-village, his playstyle is just different from what we're used to on SDN[/TD]
[/TR]

lawpy's mentioned here
i think this reads list throws some subtle shade at lawp

Why is MSP in your wolf reads if you want to see more?

Also how are you reading genny vs zenges vs pleasy? W/W/W? W/W/V? W/V/V?

in response to alley's list

I think there might be multiple factions or there are wolves out there that are hardcore bussing each other. Lawpy’s tinfoil might not be as crazy as we think, especially given that Sunny was killed in a different manner than April and Barks.

Frankly, her play in basics upset me, and she’s a wolf in my book until proven otherwise. She hasn’t contributed enough for me to move her to neutral or pro-village

I think they’re either in different packs (factions?) or they’re just hardcore bussing. I think Genny could be in a pack with pleasy, and I don’t think Z would be in a pack with either of them.

in response to lawp asking about MsP and then about me/z

Hmm, could you provide your updated wolf reads?

in response to z

Really not liking Cyndia still. See my ISO here for reference: She pushed MKG for a really innocuous reason, especially for a game 2 noob. Doubles down on it. Triples down on it, and then proceeds to deny pushing MKG and winds up on April.

Also Kata: I did my own ISO here which didn't yield as much fruit as I wanted but she's only got like 10 posts. Although I'm noticing one of the few things she did was mention Chaos (see below) and give him a neutral read. She's mentioned almost no one, presumably most people are neutral....why single out chaos in a group of over 20 just to say he's neutral? Speaking of 10 posts, I hadn't noticed until Cray pointed it out but yeah, it's literally exactly 10. Just enough to avoid a mod kill.

Speaking of Chaos, I can definitely see a pack here: I'm really not liking the MKG push right now. Like as far as I can tell this is literally the only post even mentioning MKG
There's literally no reasoning, no analysis, just "oh hey let me throw my vote over here". It's not like there's even been a sold thread case made by anyone for why MKG is being wolfy. Why is this vote? It's bad just like Cyndia's was bad, and I think there's something there.

Jaboo

Spoiler: Jaboo

It's really hard for me to not look at the fact that Jaboo put their vote on me because I didn't post for all of 38 minutes before yeet close while also reading the thread. I'm not going to go around in circles on this because it's just going to make me angry and I'm trying really hard to not me Angry!Zenge this game, but this really is an abusrd reason to be voting for me.

I'm also leaving the Eel Pool open for cases like MsP who's not as bad as she was in Basics, but still seems to be flying under the radar. I'm also not...not... looking at Genny still, but my main issue was the refusal to play ball and she seems to have changed her tune.

same interaction

How are you reading pleasy?

She's got a lot of issues that I'm reading as wolfy. It's pretty much all been said, both by me in my ISO of the Barks/Pleasy interactions, and a lot else, better articulated by other people also wolf reading her.

My biggest hesitation at the moment was this post here This really did read like 'frustrated villager" to me, but I'm also a sucker for that stuff. I bought Samac's "feeling sorry about yeeting me" in GGoats hook line and sinker.

It reads like appeal to emotion which is a major reason why pleasy is still one of my wolfreads

Thank you, I actually missed those posts when looking through Chaos’s. I still don’t find that compelling though.

Do you find it compelling? What’s your take on the situation?

in response to lawpy's hmm

You backtracking Lawpy? I see you! Putting votes on Dubz, pulling them off. Sketchballs.

jokey

What has made AM look wolfier than zenges/pleasy/genny?

Well this is interesting

in response to the z reveal

unyeet genny
yeet zenges

shortly after

so here's the thing;
nothing RO's w/w/w
lawpy gives one mention of sus to alley and that's it
bUT the interactions read the same as lawpy's interactions with everyone to me. nothing jumps out

and then on d2 there's some stuff mildly inconsistent w loud notifications.

but lawpy was on the alley vote before close, he was #4

so i dont think lawpy/alley/z are w/w/w but its not absolutely impossible, it would require lawpy to bus alley d2 which i dont think is likely

 

[supershorty]

lawpy's turn
im not looking forward to this one since lawpy posts a crap ton

btw, have we heard from lawpy yet this cycle? I'm pretty sure we havent but i wanted to make sure that didn't change overnight and i missed it

Nope, and nothing in my PM with him.

 

[Dinashadow]

To this I say it's math: 26 players to start, up to 25% non-village = 6.5. So say 6 non-village. We've caught 2, likely 4 remain. For every non-village remaining, you should have about 2x that number that you are seriously considering. I think too often people overly narrow.

Considering we have at least one 3P I'm leaning towards 5 wolves right now

Yeet Cyndia

I'm going into an ER shift for the day and may or may not be back until the couple hours prior to close just depending on caseload.

Between genny having suspicions there and the NK, a general mild wolf lean through the game, and her inconsistencies with what she said she would do and did, I'd like to apply pressure there.

My biggest misgiving is her move being VERY visible and me being uncertain exactly what she gained from pulling that much attention to her. Maybe getting away from chatty genny?

Did she ever get her questions across to you, Dina/did they seem reasonable?

She did. I feel it's okay to mention it now because both genny and mkg are dead, but basically she was reading mkg strong village and she PM'd genny about it. She thought mkg was the protector and since mkg was silenced she asked genny if she shouldn't have a strong village read on mkg. She said genny volunteered the information that she (genny) had protected me and not mkg (I'm assuming she was reading cyndia as a wolf and trying to cover for mkg).

So cyndia decided to come to PM me this information and let me know she was worried about mkg and wanted to ask if I had looked into her at all, but mkg was NK'd before she got to talk to me so I'm assuming she was confused about mkg flipping protector after genny had told her otherwise.

So ummm , the seer got a 3p? Why wouldnt you reveal that?

The 3p could be harmless or the 3p could have a wincon separate from wolves/village that could make them win over either faction. I don't want it to interrupt wolf hunting today but I might reveal it later today depending. I'm still thinking about it because it could end us costing us a better vote this cycle. I would love for the wolves to just take care of it, but idk if that's going to happen

I mean I would have to agree... Kata made my wolf list from how she was adamant day one and never really posted much until the deadlines on the other days.

I know I don't post too much and I can tell you two reasons why A) no one wants to read a bunch of my trash short post to hit a minimum (sorry mods, but that's a lot to read through if I throw in my 2 cents every time) B) often times I agree and like a post that says exactly what I am thinking too, so I take more of that approach. I do try to come on and say things when I have differing opinions, like putting you and AM on my list (which, after trilts addition, is probs not the best rabbit hole) C) last night was a date night before my partner leaves for 2 weeks on another externship sooooo I unplugged for the evening.

The problem is if you like a post nobody else knows you liked it except the poster. That makes it difficult for us to interpret your thoughts.

 

[samac]

Considering we have at least one 3P I'm leaning towards 5 wolves right now



She did. I feel it's okay to mention it now because both genny and mkg are dead, but basically she was reading mkg strong village and she PM'd genny about it. She thought mkg was the protector and since mkg was silenced she asked genny if she shouldn't have a strong village read on mkg. She said genny volunteered the information that she (genny) had protected me and not mkg (I'm assuming she was reading cyndia as a wolf and trying to cover for mkg).

So cyndia decided to come to PM me this information and let me know she was worried about mkg and wanted to ask if I had looked into her at all, but mkg was NK'd before she got to talk to me so I'm assuming she was confused about mkg flipping protector after genny had told her otherwise.



The 3p could be harmless or the 3p could have a wincon separate from wolves/village that could make them win over either faction. I don't want it to interrupt wolf hunting today but I might reveal it later today depending. I'm still thinking about it because it could end us costing us a better vote this cycle. I would love for the wolves to just take care of it, but idk if that's going to happen



The problem is if you like a post nobody else knows you liked it except the poster. That makes it difficult for us to interpret your thoughts.

I’m trying to be clear here coming in late, are you saying Cyndia knew MKG was blocker? That could have been info from Zenge’s wolf seer ability. Genny then volunteered she was a protector?
Do you think her having that info lead to the deaths of genny and mkg? Or do you think her actions were trying to learn as a villager?

 

[Lupin21]

Not sure how busy I'll be, so will drop off a

vote cyndia

for now since I am waiting to hear about moving things.

 

[samac]

Alright I have like a 20 minute break

Since they asked for it, LIS - Holy tunnel batman! He's been so far up kata's butthole this whole game. Says he is willing to vote alley when it came to it, but with little further detail. He was a late vote on Zenge and kept him as a "wolf lean". He's made a post about not being afraid to bus which was balllllllsy. Honestly, this ISO has gave me the wolf feels. My only thing is I believe Chaos was on you for a while and unless there was some bussing you all aren't compatible as W/W. I would like to see one of these flip.

 

[alleycat03]

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I'm just about ready to get off Lupin's dick but I'd appreciate some more reads from her on other players, because if she is village that would be helpful.

So SDN changes a**holes to dinguses but does nothing for d*ck??? wtf 🤔

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[supershorty]

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So SDN changes a**holes to dinguses but does nothing for d*ck??? wtf 🤔

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I discovered yesterday that the censors don't work at all on the Threadloom search results. Some people in this game have colorful language
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[WildZoo]

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So SDN changes a**holes to dinguses but does nothing for d*ck??? wtf 🤔

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Well you see, Dick could be a name

 

[alleycat03]

Well you see, Dick could be a name

******
Dick is actually the preferred nickname of my university's president. Yes, we have made jokes about him for that.
******

 

[Crayola227]

So ummm , the seer got a 3p? Why wouldnt you reveal that?

There's only one reason I can think, and it's a tinfoil.

 

[Crayola227]

I mean I would have to agree... Kata made my wolf list from how she was adamant day one and never really posted much until the deadlines on the other days.

I know I don't post too much and I can tell you two reasons why A) no one wants to read a bunch of my trash short post to hit a minimum (sorry mods, but that's a lot to read through if I throw in my 2 cents every time) B) often times I agree and like a post that says exactly what I am thinking too, so I take more of that approach. I do try to come on and say things when I have differing opinions, like putting you and AM on my list (which, after trilts addition, is probs not the best rabbit hole) C) last night was a date night before my partner leaves for 2 weeks on another externship sooooo I unplugged for the evening.

Reason A and B just won't cut it.

 

[Crayola227]

For what it's worth, Lawpy has been silent in my PM with him since D5 started, including when I sent a non-game-related thing to see if he could/would like it the way Cray liked non-strategy things when she was silenced.

Cyndia not liking/responding isn't very informative, but with Lawper suspect it's beyond his control.

Dubz told me I could like non-strat because I asked (and had already liked the write up before seeing my role PM) because she likes to get those PM write ups.

My impression from Kdubs was that wasn't how she would have handled it, and it did lead to some confusion yesterday, so I wonder if they shut that down moving forward, like they did Lawper communicating with vote switching.

I understand why yesterday we went for silenced players, we had a good mechanical lead. Today I'm worried if maybe the wolves are seeking to piggyback and get a misyeet for silence.

I'm wondering about wolfy silencing/post restrictions vs from items. Without more info, I'm wondering if wolves would have had a player have their posting ability affected 2 days in a row.

Assuming all the wolves aren't restricted or silenced right now, I'd like to focus on talking players and give the silenced/restricted players a day to come to defend.

 

[Crayola227]

S

Because we're wolfhunting, especially for the mutikill wolf who's still a massive threat.

Spoken just like a 3P, lol.

 

[Crayola227]

Well, if it were to become a distracting issue, she'd probably reveal it. But until then, it's likely useful to see everyone handles the slot including TMI wolves. Or, at least, that's how I'd handle it as a seer.

Handles the slot?

 

[supershorty]

I understand why yesterday we went for silenced players, we had a good mechanical lead. Today I'm worried if maybe the wolves are seeking to piggyback and get a misyeet for silence.

Assuming all the wolves aren't restricted or silenced right now, I'd like to focus on talking players and give the silenced/restricted players a day to come to defend.

I agree with this. And thanks for the clarification on how/why you were able to like what you did.

 

[Crayola227]

It also gives the wolves information on who not to kill at night though, since 3ps don't usually count toward village parity. If we're going to lose someone to NK, it's better for village for it to be a 3p.

I think Dina had said she would reveal it closer to yeet close if it was needed (ie if we were focused on that person instead of on a wolf).

Why would you assume because of parity they would let the 3p live? Sometimes that is their exclusive wincon. 3P sometimes have powers bad for everybody. Sometimes killing a 3P is complicated - it may take a lynch over a NK, for example.

 

[supershorty]

Why would you assume because of parity they would let the 3p live? Sometimes that is their exclusive wincon. 3P sometimes have powers bad for everybody. Sometimes killing a 3P is complicated - it may take a lynch over a NK, for example.

I've only played with 3ps twice so I really don't know a lot about their possible wincons. I just know when I was wolfing in the noob game, our wincon was based solely on parity with villagers and assumed that was generally true, so a 3p kill wouldn't help wolves get to their wincon faster.

 

[kaydubs]

Day 5 You Were Born To Do Great Things Vote Tally

Cyndia (5) - AM, Dina, LIS, Trilt, Lupin
Chaostrodon (1) - samac
mayo (1) - Cray
samac (2) - supershorty, Barks
pawprints (2) - jaboo, vetschoolsplz

11/17

winning: @Cyndia

Missing: @Cyndia @holdthemayo @Ms Procrastinator @Lawpy @Chaostrodon @pawprintsandponytails

Deadline: 10pm EST on 3/10/21 (~5.75 hours)

 

[Crayola227]

So what does 3p mean in your games , From what Im used to , 3p generally tend to either have killing powers or anti town wincons

Just "neither villager nor wolf". No specification about ability or wincon.

This isn't strictly true. Ime, AM is irrationally in favor of 3P because she's under the mistaken impression that a good amount of the time they are harmless or play for village or don't have exclusive wincons.

Ime on this site, they are not so warm and fuzzy, and there's a reason I like to see them dead just as soon as we can vote them.

Also one of the mods who wrote this game, would absolutely put in a wicked 3P that could ruin the game for all and he'd laugh about it. One of the other mods likes to put in 3Ps with exclusive wincons. And the last one, in a recent game had the serial killer.

The harmless and friendly every night shot serial killer who tried to tell us they'd play for village. Got put down D1 as they should.

 

[supershorty]

@Crayola227 What are your thoughts on this?

There would be more multikill nights if we're dealing with an sk though, wouldn't there?

 

[kaydubs]

Also one of the mods who wrote this game, would absolutely put in a wicked 3P that could ruin the game for all and he'd laugh about it. One of the other mods likes to put in 3Ps with exclusive wincons. And the last one, in a recent game had the serial killer.

I think I’m excused

 

[Crayola227]

Just "neither villager nor wolf". No specification about ability or wincon.

I have taken it upon myself for this site to say true neutral does not have an exclusive wincon and can win with either group, that to me makes sense to say they are true neutral.

If they have an exclusive wincon, then their interests by definition will clash with one or both traditional two parties, making them have a 3rd party interest.

That is how I define neutral and 3P for the purposes of what we have seen on this site. I think it makes sense, clarifies, and most of the games that have had someone not wolf or villager fits into this definition.

So I do declare. I will push this point every game.

 

[Crayola227]

I think I’m excused

I might be mixing you up with SAR?

 

[kaydubs]

SILENCING:
I will attempt to clarify.
In this game, as of night 4’s cycle, silencing indicates no reactions or posts to PMs or thread. If a vote is placed for day cycle, said vote will be locked in/cannot be changed.

I, and my fellow mods, are doing our best to reflect when a vote is cast in the tally.

Please feel free to ask for additional clarification. I will respond if I can.

 

[Crayola227]

So wouldnt it be better to reveal in case its a serial killer? Hunting for SK can be much harder than hunting for mafia in my opinion

I hope the seer doesn't make the decision to take this info into night phase and risk going down with it.

 

[kaydubs]

I might be mixing you up with SAR?

Perhaps. She is comodding this one too. I just didn’t see an attribute mentioned by you for me and was much relieved lol

 

[supershorty]

In this game, as of night 4’s cycle, silencing indicates no reactions or posts to PMs or thread.

So no reactions at all even for non-strategy posts?

If that's the case, then I feel stronger about giving the silenced people a day to come talk.

 

[Crayola227]

There would be more multikill nights if we're dealing with an sk though, wouldn't there?

What if they just get every other night? What if they've been blocked somehow? Feels like from write ups there have been more attempts than kills, and going off the items we've seen that makes sense. We have no ides what restrictions there could be on a SK this game.

 

[Crayola227]

*******not dead just not a real game post******
Y’all
This game is invasive
I was catching up and I saw the talk about whether Dina should reveal the neutral and I was like what the heck Mayo already revealed go read the thread
I DREAMT Mayo revealed his 3p role
Christ
*********

Well you know what they say about dreams? Your subconscious is trying to tell you something.

 

[WildZoo]

Dubz as a mod, as a player, as a person: Is crazy, will do anything for the lulz

 

[Crayola227]

Maybe Mayo has to drop a certain number of game quotes to get a kill shot.

That would also explain the voting record.

 

[pawprintsandponytails]

Do you have some new reads/thoughts since the old list is now outdated?

Wolf leaning: Cyndia, please, Kata/samac
Not sure: Chaos, lupin, MsP, cray, Mayo, AM
Village leaning: LIS, jaboo, Barks, Lawpy, Dina, Trilt
Village: Shorty

Cyndia was on my radar before she had her GIF day, I don't think we have seen her as much since then, I agree with MsP and think she is on to something with who she (Cyndia) pushed ended up being a village

Kata has been on my radar from D1, I know she is subbed out, so I guess to determine if samac acts wolfish

Mayo just don't get the best vibes, quotes get old and I wonder if they have a deeper meaning

Shorty confident village at this point for the sheer effort they have put into the entire game and I don't see someone thats a wolf doing so much work and sharing it


for me...

yeet cyndia

@kaydubs

 

[kaydubs]

So no reactions at all even for non-strategy posts?

If that's the case, then I feel stronger about giving the silenced people a day to come talk.

Correct. I over-ruled that. I find it confusing cause where does one draw the line? People are always looking for loopholes.

I get silencing miffs many people but LIS reminded me when silenced people could NOT do anything (EVEN VOTE). Those times probably preceded when reactions were introduced to the forum.

 

[kaydubs]

Dubz as a mod, as a player, as a person: Is crazy, will do anything for the lulz

Can confirm.

 

[kaydubs]

yeet cyndia

@kaydubs

Thank you for the tag!!