Back to Basics: Hiking the NH48 WW - Game Thread

[Stroganoff]

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I’ll tell you one thing. The only waffling I’m doing right now is whether I am going to drink beer, wine, or liquor! Brutal 40 patient Friday clinic!

Alternate beer, liquor, beer, liquor, beer, liquor.

 

[PippyPony]

Oh, didn't see it.
I get it, my vote there doesn't look good at all. But do you really think I had any idea what the **** was going on during that crazy lynch? Was anyone keeping an accurate tally during that cluster? I certainly wasn't. I already explained the vote. I was flustered with all the waffling and just stuck with who I thought was wolfiest at that time. I hate ties, I think it's pretty obvious after that one stupid role I had. I'm not worried about it anymore, because there's no tie currently.

Sorry allie, but this is a sketchy ass post

I don't think you were so out of it that you didn't have any sense of the vote count -- I think you are more on top of your **** than that (and that is a compliment, I promise)

 

[Animal Midwife]

Unofficial D5 Lynch Tally
WZ (2) - Dina, pickles
Lawpy (1) - cubs
Sporty () -
allie (3) - AM, WZ, Pippy
Strog (1) - Barks
MJ (2) - Lawpy, Strog
Barks (2) - Sporty, allie
Pippy (1) - MJ

12/12
lynch close in ~4.5 hours

 

[PippyPony]

Early in the game MJ basically wanted to die, in some emo comment. And today I joked wondering if I voted for him if he would follow suit like he has the past 3 days. And he responded yes. If he's a wolf, he would be basically sacrificing himself though.

Do you have a bus driving license? I think that requires a special operator's class

 

[Stroganoff]

Do you have a bus driving license? I think that requires a special operator's class

I'm testing to see if he'll keep his word and vote for himself. 🙂

 

[PippyPony]

I'm testing to see if he'll keep his word and vote for himself. 🙂

 

[Stroganoff]

K so I got 3 hours of sleep 2 nights ago and 0 hours last night, so I'm dragging ass. Highly considering a 4 hour nap to give me ~30 minutes of frantic catch-up before lynch close. But there's FOMO (Fear of Missing Out).

Whatever. I have Barks and Allie and maybe Pip in my wolf pack currently.

 

[PippyPony]

Whatever. I have Barks and Allie and maybe Pip in my wolf pack currently.

What happened to your shelter/Lawper tunnel?

 

[Stroganoff]

What happened to your shelter/Lawper tunnel?

Lawper thought I was sketchy but then went and did some analysis and defended the accusations that I was in cahoots with MJ. And he doesn't seem to be on my case anymore, so he did me a solid.

I'd have to look at my past posts from days ago to remember my shelter tunnel...OH, she only had like 7-8 posts total before subbing out, and she wasn't bluffing about subbing out. Why would a wolf sub out? It's a once in a decade role (at least for me, literally).

I guess I just decided that with 7-8 total posts, shelter leans villagey. And Lawper is continuing that vibe in my mind.

 

[Stroganoff]

Dina doesn't really talk much.

 

[Stroganoff]

Unofficial D5 Lynch Tally
WZ (2) - Dina, pickles
Lawpy (1) - cubs
Sporty () -
allie (3) - AM, WZ, Pippy
Strog (1) - Barks
MJ (2) - Lawpy, Strog
Barks (2) - Sporty, allie
Pippy (1) - MJ

12/12
lynch close in ~4.5 hours

You have a placeholder for "Sporty () -" but don't have one for "Dina () -" who also has no votes. Just an innocent oversight? Or should I read into that, perhaps? Like you're subconsciously protecting Dina or something.

Edit: Or does your lynch tracker only create the placeholder once someone first gets a vote? I don't remember if someone's voted for Sporty then changed their mind....

 

[Animal Midwife]

You have a placeholder for "Sporty () -" but don't have one for "Dina () -" who also has no votes. Just an innocent oversight? Or should I read into that, perhaps? Like you're subconsciously protecting Dina or something.

Was Dina ever voted for today?

 

[Stroganoff]

Was Dina ever voted for today?

Doesn't ring a bell. Neither does Sporty, but I'd have to go back and look.

How's your system work? You only put someone up there once they get a vote? If that's how you do your lynch tracking system, then disregard my comment. I think I overanalyze and read too much into structural stuff like that, and word choice and pattern recognition.

 

[PippyPony]

Lawper thought I was sketchy but then went and did some analysis and defended the accusations that I was in cahoots with MJ. And he doesn't seem to be on my case anymore, so he did me a solid.

I'd have to look at my past posts from days ago to remember my shelter tunnel...OH, she only had like 7-8 posts total before subbing out, and she wasn't bluffing about subbing out. Why would a wolf sub out? It's a once in a decade role (at least for me, literally).

I guess I just decided that with 7-8 total posts, shelter leans villagey. And Lawper is continuing that vibe in my mind.

Hmm ok

Do not like this first reasoning very much. It basically amounts to "he stopped lynching me and started defending me so he must be a good guy".

And you seemed pretty into that tunnel, iirc. I think you said something along the lines of "tunneling so hard rn"

...how do we get from "tunneling so hard rn" to

"I actively decided Lawper wasn't sketchy" to

"wait I forgot why I thought he was sketchy so I passively decided he wasn't" to

"actually it was because I actively decided low post volume was ok"

...that's a lot of completely different explanations for the same outcome.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Doesn't ring a bell. Neither does Sporty, but I'd have to go back and look.

How's your system work? You only put someone up there once they get a vote? If that's how you do your lynch tracking system, then disregard my comment. I think I overanalyze structural stuff like that, and word choice and pattern recognition.

Yes, to the bolded. Some people will remove those without a vote from the tally altogether, but it makes analyzing harder, in my opinion, if you don't have an idea of who all was up for lynch at one point during that cycle.

 

[Stroganoff]

K so I got 3 hours of sleep 2 nights ago and 0 hours last night, so I'm dragging ass. Highly considering a 4 hour nap to give me ~30 minutes of frantic catch-up before lynch close. But there's FOMO (Fear of Missing Out).

Whatever. I have Barks and Allie and maybe Pip in my wolf pack currently.

Nodding off more severely, and brain feels like it's on fire. Must nap and hopefully not sleep through the alarm.

 

[SkiOtter]

You have a placeholder for "Sporty () -" but don't have one for "Dina () -" who also has no votes. Just an innocent oversight? Or should I read into that, perhaps? Like you're subconsciously protecting Dina or something.

Edit: Or does your lynch tracker only create the placeholder once someone first gets a vote? I don't remember if someone's voted for Sporty then changed their mind....

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If someone had a vote at some point during the day, they go on the tally, even if they’re unlynched, just to show that at some point SOMEONE was voting them.
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[Stroganoff]

Hmm ok

Do not like this reasoning very much. It basically amounts to "he stopped lynching me and started defending me so he must be a good guy".

And you seemed pretty into that tunnel, iirc. I think you said something along the lines of "tunneling so hard rn"

...how do we get from "tunneling so hard rn" to

"I actively decided Lawper wasn't sketchy" to

"wait I forgot why I thought he was sketchy so I passively decided he wasn't" to

"actually it was because I actively decided low post volume was ok"

...that's a lot of completely different explanations for the same outcome.

Already explained that yesterday. It turned out my reasons for shelter were overanalyzing. Such as maybe wondering if she was bluffing being subbed out as a wolfy expert move. Turns out she was honest.

I read low content in her posts despite the opportunity to provide analysis -- I think post #6 or post #7. But overall, I think my tunnel was unwarranted. As I've said multiple times this game, I tend to overanalyze and read too much into things, so maybe I'll be more accurate if I dial that back a bit.

 

[Stroganoff]

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If someone had a vote at some point during the day, they go on the tally, even if they’re unlynched, just to show that at some point SOMEONE was voting them.
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Thanks!

@Animal Midwife, disregard. Now that I know that's how your tally works, I can't read anything fishy into the fact that Dina didn't have a placeholder. Had your tally system list everybody who's alive, then I would have had a valid argument. 🙂

 

[PippyPony]

Already explained that yesterday. It turned out my reasons for shelter were overanalyzing. Such as maybe wondering if she was bluffing being subbed out as a wolfy expert move. Turns out she was honest.

I read low content in her posts despite the opportunity to provide analysis -- I think post #6 or post #7. But overall, I think my tunnel was unwarranted. As I've said multiple times this game, I tend to overanalyze and read too much into things, so maybe I'll be more accurate if I dial that back a bit.

Yeah, but you literally just said that you didn't remember why you moved off, and also that you changed your opinion because of Lawper's posts today, not because of Shelter's posts.

Things aren't adding up here, and it has nothing to do with overanalyzing.

I do perhaps see the overanalyzing that you're talking about...but right now, in my mind, it smacks of analysis that is based around trying to fish out role mechanics and relationships -- specifically, relationships between players who seem pretty village in my mind. That's wolfy, and kinda makes me want to mess with your reads on that front further than I already have.

...oh no, I've said too much

Have a good nap though, naps are the best and I think I would be dead if I had gotten that little sleep!

 

[WildZoo]

I'm voting for dubz because I felt initially wary of her day 2. When Snowy flipped told it looked bad when she wasn't on the snowy lynch despite these previous comments



You made a lot of comments about the snowy lynch but never acted on it.

Yes I know dubz already defended it but it still looks bad.



Mel is sus of her. Dubz and Mel have an argument where dubz said many things that are sketchy and that pippy quoted the other day.

And then Mel is NK that night and nothing is really pushed against dubz that next dat



Subtle "I'm a villager" and again when you asked that wolves kill you the other night. This argument isn't a lot on its own but it adds suspicion



Jumping on saying SAR was village after she flips village after dubz basically tunneled her before


Other wolfy feels - I could see dubz, sporty, strog or MJ switched out with sport.

I was curious about allie but I'm really neutral on her honestly.

I could 100 percent go for a strog lynch too

Yeah. One day people will learn when things look bad it's because I'm villaging. It's the kind of image control I'm good at when I'm a wolf. Ah well. I've already addressed most of this.

I will say that characterizing my feeling on SAR as tunneling her is incorrect. I thought it was pretty clear that when AM said a SAR lynch was bad I trusted that read. The only reason I was lynching SAR early D2 was to test snowy and see if the wagon gained any momentum in opposition to snowy. After snowy flipped it was pretty obvious (to me) that SAR was village and I didn't mention her in my wolf reads or question her again.

 

[WildZoo]

@WildZoo who is in your possible wolf pack?

The normal ones or the tinfoil ones?

Currently have Allie/MJ or Allie/pippy pairings, still working out the third because I have a few people sitting in neutral.

 

[Dinashadow]

Dina doesn't really talk much.

Why do you say this? Are you upset that I said I'd 100 percent lynch you? There are plenty of people who post less.

I just posted a long analysis in why I was voting dubz. Im not really into posting a bunch of random fluff

 

[WildZoo]

Ok, I guess in a more blunt way: if dubz is wrong about another lynch, how will that impact your read on her? Negative impact? Or no impact?

Interesting. How would my being wrong about another lynch impact your read of me?

 

[PippyPony]

I will say that characterizing my feeling on SAR as tunneling her is incorrect. I thought it was pretty clear that when AM said a SAR lynch was bad I trusted that read. The only reason I was lynching SAR early D2 was to test snowy and see if the wagon gained any momentum in opposition to snowy. After snowy flipped it was pretty obvious (to me) that SAR was village and I didn't mention her in my wolf reads or question her again.

So, it was a test, because you trusted AM's read and thought SAR was village...but you didn't actually trust it enough not to try to make her a contender?

And why would the fact that no one jumped on to a potential counter vote to a wolf mean you should then clear someone as village after that? If you had put her on the board as another option against snowy, and it didn't take off, wouldn't that probably mean it was more likely that SAR was wolfy?

Gonna have to explain that one for me, because I am unfamiliar with that kind of litmus test.

 

[Barkley13]

On the note of Barks:
Feels strangely like she's flying under the radar. Suspicion has floated around here and there but there's not been a lot of push on either side. She also doesn't follow up when she says she's going to and lacks conviction in her lynches (bit too amicable, willing to sway to the opinions of the veterans, relies on feelz.

Few of the quotes that bothered me when I looked into her:



Does not follow up on the more to say


Upon AM(?) questioning the vote

I haven't been trying to fly under the radar. Even in the past people have said things about me not posting as much and this game I'm even busier since school started last week. And I decided to think about the dina lynch more when AM questioned me because I'm reading her strong village so I trust her.

She's the only one who I can't place why she lynched Snowy.

I switched from pickle to snowy because so many people said that they didn't like the pickle lynch/thought she was village so I started to doubt myself since I've been bad at reading other noobs in every game. I had slight gut feels on snowy so I decided to vote there.

Lynch Barkley

Edit: I feel like pickles is leaning more villager despite my early game tunnels. I almost wonder if Bark was too aggressively against pickles in early game. Either way, she's super stealthy.

Also, I'm not feeling her reasoning for voting me. I haven't been terribly defensive recently when peeps wanted to lynch me.

How was I too aggressively against pickles? She's still sketchy and if I'm remembering correctly, you also thought she was sketchy at one point. This also feels slightly retaliatory since part of your reasoning if that you don't like my reasoning against you.

 

[PippyPony]

Interesting. How would my being wrong about another lynch impact your read of me?

Negatively.

 

[PippyPony]

Currently have Allie/MJ or Allie/pippy pairings, still working out the third because I have a few people sitting in neutral.

And hold up -- you think I am outwardly bussing allie?

Since when do you think I am wolfy? Since I started voting for you yesterday? That's some nice retaliatory thinking there, WZ

 

[WildZoo]

So, it was a test, because you trusted AM's read and thought SAR was village...but you didn't actually trust it enough not to try to make her a contender?

And why would the fact that no one jumped on to a potential counter vote to a wolf mean you should then clear someone as village after that? If you had put her on the board as another option against snowy, and it didn't take off, wouldn't that probably mean it was more likely that SAR was wolfy?

Gonna have to explain that one for me, because I am unfamiliar with that kind of litmus test.

AM's read came later, I don't think she had said anything specifically about SAR prior to snowy being lynched, if she did it was not in direct response to me so I don't remember it.

I initially did read it that way - that with snowy throwing shade at SAR but not voting for her they might be wolfing together. It's why I said SAR was the crux of my wolf pack near the end of that day.

I later decided that the more likely explanation was simply that snowy showed up late enough in the day that it was already clear no one was really interested in a SAR lynch anyway so it wasn't going to do anything for her. On reread I was comfy enough to put her in my strong village pile between that, SAR's posts, her interactions with snowy, and AM's read.

 

[WildZoo]

Negatively.

Why's that?

 

[WildZoo]

And hold up -- you think I am outwardly bussing allie?

Since when do you think I am wolfy? Since I started voting for you yesterday? That's some nice retaliatory thinking there, WZ

I don't see you voting for her at any meaningful times

Since bj flipped village, I changed my mind on strog, and you floated into the suspicious pile because again, I have nothing solid to point to in the village column for you. The timing is coincidental with your decision to lynch me, though actually you voted for me earlier on and I might have looked at you more if you hadn't. You know what I've said before about people who push my lynch, yes?

 

[PippyPony]

AM's read came later, I don't think she had said anything specifically about SAR prior to snowy being lynched, if she did it was not in direct response to me so I don't remember it.

I initially did read it that way - that with snowy throwing shade at SAR but not voting for her they might be wolfing together. It's why I said SAR was the crux of my wolf pack near the end of that day.

I later decided that the more likely explanation was simply that snowy showed up late enough in the day that it was already clear no one was really interested in a SAR lynch anyway so it wasn't going to do anything for her. On reread I was comfy enough to put her in my strong village pile between that, SAR's posts, her interactions with snowy, and AM's read.

But that timeline is not aligned with what you just said. Again:

I thought it was pretty clear that when AM said a SAR lynch was bad I trusted that read. The only reason I was lynching SAR early D2 was to test snowy and see if the wagon gained any momentum in opposition to snowy. After snowy flipped it was pretty obvious (to me) that SAR was village and I didn't mention her in my wolf reads or question her again.

You said the ONLY reason you were lynching SAR was to test Snowy. That, in conjunction with the previous sentence in that paragraph, implies you already thought SAR was village and trusted AM's read.

I think you are maybe lying.

 

[PippyPony]

I don't see you voting for her at any meaningful times

Is now not a meaningful time?

 

[PippyPony]

You know what I've said before about people who push my lynch, yes?

Do you think Dina is a wolf?

 

[WildZoo]

But that timeline is not aligned with what you just said. Again:



You said the ONLY reason you were lynching SAR was to test Snowy. That, in conjunction with the previous sentence in that paragraph, implies you already thought SAR was village and trusted AM's read.

I think you are maybe lying.

Nope those were not connected thoughts, i just said it confusingly I guess. How would it have been clear that I trusted AM's read if I was voting for SAR? That would be silly.

After the end of the day, I trusted AM's read. At the beginning of the day, I wasn't really reading SAR one way or the other but decided to use her as a test for snowy. I kind of figured the snowy Lynch would be a runaway bandwagon, and was hoping a good counter would give more info as well. Before lynch closed I think I mentioned to cheezit that I might have seen what I was looking for there. So initial (albeit drunk) interpretation was that SAR and snowy were wolfing together after all. Later sober revision was the opposite.

 

[WildZoo]

Do you think Dina is a wolf?

Only in tinfoil land
Dina and pickles don't know what it's like to play with me so they do not get the courtesy village reading from pushing me. However they do already have village checks for other reasons.

 

[PippyPony]

Nope those were not connected thoughts, i just said it confusingly I guess. How would it have been clear that I trusted AM's read if I was voting for SAR? That would be silly.

After the end of the day, I trusted AM's read. At the beginning of the day, I wasn't really reading SAR one way or the other but decided to use her as a test for snowy. I kind of figured the snowy Lynch would be a runaway bad wagon, and was hoping a good counter would give more info as well. Before lynch closed I think I mentioned to cheezit that I might have seen what I was looking for there. So initial (albeit drunk) interpretation was that SAR and snowy were wolfing together after all. Later sober revision was the opposite.

Yes, it would be silly. Quoting this because I think there are more inconsistencies here and I would like to go back and read this later in sequence.

 

[WildZoo]

Is now not a meaningful time?

Depends on the tally at the end of the day.

 

[PippyPony]

Only in tinfoil land
Dina and pickles don't know what it's like to play with me so they do not get the courtesy village reading from pushing me. However they do already have village checks for other reasons.

Dina is also pushing your lynch, though. In fact, I thought she made some nice points that were in line with some of the ones I was going to make

And sorry, what courtesy village points are those? You rip people to shreds when they vote for you, to the point where Pickles was about to ask for a sub.

 

[WildZoo]

Dina is also pushing your lynch, though. In fact, I thought she made some nice points that were in line with some of the ones I was going to make

And sorry, what courtesy village points are those? You rip people to shreds when they vote for you.

I know she is.

And yes, I fight back aggressively, doesn't mean I think the people voting for me are wolfy and I rarely go after them in that way anymore because wolves just don't try to lynch me. You can ask AM or sporty. It was one of the reasons that I read sporty as village in Orchestra for almost the entire game (until my endgame meltdown).

 

[Barkley13]

Some updated reads...

Sketchy
Pickle - still hasn't said anything that makes me feel any better about her and I didn't like how her tinfoil misrepresented some things
Strog - for reasons I said earlier
Lawper/shelter - shelter was sketchier earlier and I think it would've been better if lawper had just admitted that instead of trying to play it like shelter did analysis and was helping the village. He was definitely reaching to try to make her look not sketchy so that he would look better coming in.

????
MJ - I feel like he posts like once a day but it's never anything substantial
Cubs - he hasn't posted very much since subbing in but nothing stands out to me either way
No idea what to make of the pippy/dubz situation... still thinking about it
Sporty - hasn't been around much and focused a lot on shelter but she also has done some analysis and provided original thoughts.. could go either way

Village
AM, dina, allie

 

[Lawpy]

I was reading through genny's posts and found that her interactions with Allie are likely V/W

What has you particularly stuck on allie? I can't remember what you said about her initially.

Feelz + kill choice + that weird argument with AM and Stagg

genny is a smart, talented and skilled player so she has valid reasons for voting Allie and pursuing her, as seen in D2 and D3 below:​

Day 1 Lynch Tally
Sporty () -
Stagg (5) - SAR, bryndi, genny, dubz, zigzag

Strog (1) - shelter
zigzag (2) - Barks, dinamite
SAR (4) - dolphin, sporty, strog, stagg
AM (2) - MJ, allieh
Dina () -
dolphin (1) - Paws
Mel () -
devyn () -
snowy (2) - mel, am
paws (1) - snowy
shelter (1) - pickles
allieh () -

19/20
Missing: devyn

Day 2 Lynch Tally
Snowy (5) - Paws, Dina, barkley, mel, sar
SAR (1) - bryndy
shelter (2) - Sporty, am
Strog (1) - pickles
pickles (4) - Strog, mj, snowy, allieh
allie (2) - genny, dubz
Dina () -
genny () -

15/17
Missing: shelter, devyn

Day 3 Lynch Tally
bryndy (3) - sar, dubz, dina
pippy () -
sar (4) - shelter, strog, mj, pickles
shelter (3) - am, sporty, barkley
dina () -
allie (1) - genny
Barks (1) - allie
strog (1) - cubs
dubz (2) - pips, bryndi

15/15

Day 4 Lynch Tally
shelter (7) - am, barkley, strog, sportyspice, MJ, allie, bryndi
pickles () -
dubz () -
bryndi (7) - dubz, pip, genny, Dina, cubs, shelter, pickles

14/14

And a followup question: What do you think about allie holding her vote until 5 minutes before lynch close, and then going for pickle instead of snowy?

In discussions, genny raises an important question as listed above. And that question has merit especially since it was sketchy and criticized by others as noted below.
​

lynch pickles

This is also gross.

I could go with voting Allie as I have wolfy feels from her based on what's noted above. I think Allie/MJ is a possible wolf pair. Also note that Allie also coordinated her vote with MJ in D1, D2 and D4.

 

[PippyPony]

I know she is.

And yes, I fight back aggressively, doesn't mean I think the people voting for me are wolfy and I rarely go after them in that way anymore because wolves just don't try to lynch me. You can ask AM or sporty. It was one of the reasons that I read sporty as village in Orchestra for almost the entire game (until my endgame meltdown).

Then, do you think I would pick this level of fight with you if I was a wolf, and then also be simultaneously bussing a packmate?

I'd re-evaluate if I were you; seems like a lot of work and a big headache to get you lynched if i knew you were going to flip village, and I already have a headache so I'm all set on that front

 

[PippyPony]

Just gonna put it out there that both allie and MJ are great bus candidates.

Allie because of her busy schedule and that vote on Pickles looking bad; MJ because of his vote on Pickles and because he's generally sketch.

Killing genny would have set up momentum there.

Just, you know, in case anyone was planning on clearing someone suddenly sitting towards the front of that vote out of the blue if allie flips wolf.

 

[WildZoo]

Some updated reads...

Sketchy
Pickle - still hasn't said anything that makes me feel any better about her and I didn't like how her tinfoil misrepresented some things
Strog - for reasons I said earlier
Lawper/shelter - shelter was sketchier earlier and I think it would've been better if lawper had just admitted that instead of trying to play it like shelter did analysis and was helping the village. He was definitely reaching to try to make her look not sketchy so that he would look better coming in.

????
MJ - I feel like he posts like once a day but it's never anything substantial
Cubs - he hasn't posted very much since subbing in but nothing stands out to me either way
No idea what to make of the pippy/dubz situation... still thinking about it
Sporty - hasn't been around much and focused a lot on shelter but she also has done some analysis and provided original thoughts.. could go either way

Village
AM, dina, allie

I was about to be like "but wait where is me?? 😢 "

Please correct me if I'm remembering wrong because I'm on my phone, you did switch from pickles to either shelter or bj early yesterday, right?

Just gonna put it out there that both allie and MJ are great bus candidates.

Allie because of her busy schedule and that vote on Pickles looking bad; MJ because of his vote on Pickles and because he's generally sketch.

Killing genny would have set up momentum there.

Just, you know, in case anyone was planning on clearing someone suddenly sitting at the front of that vote out of the blue if allie flips wolf.

Ooo this is a nice way to set it up so you get to keep pushing me no matter which way allie flips.

 

[PippyPony]

And actually, looking back at that tally reminded me --

@WildZoo why did you switch to allie during that tie, again? You know, if your test was to test if SAR was wolfy alongside Snowy, and your drunk self thought she was wolfy?

So initial (albeit drunk) interpretation was that SAR and snowy were wolfing together after all. Later sober revision was the opposite.

You switched to allie kinda randomly. It was around the time you said "are we lynching pickles now?" and then instead of throwing a vote to one of the existing counter wagons, you moved from SAR to allie.

Explain that move in the context of you saying:
- aw are we lynching pickles
- thinking snowy was a wolf
- thinking SAR was also a wolf (I believe you said the cornerstone of your theoretical pack or some such thing)

 

[PippyPony]

Ooo this is a nice way to set it up so you get to keep pushing me no matter which way allie flips.

Yeah newsflash I am going to continue to push you until proven otherwise, as I said yesterday.

 

[picklegurl]

I will be out for a little. But I want to say this before I go. I was told by manators that D1 interactions are not as blind as we think and that small/subtle details can give a lot of information about what someone is. I plan to play this way. It has not been going in my favor obviously, as I’m being questioned like Stagg was yesterday. If I do end up leading lynch and dying or if I am NK, I’m asking all the villagers to really look into interactions that included Stagg on D1 and me on D2 (I know you all know this already, but I want to say it in case I die and when I flip village).


I knew it would challenging for me to question some of the veterans, but I really want to understand how people play and I want to learn myself, as I plan on playing WW for a while.


I’ll be back later and I will answer all of your questions, as well as reading through every Stagg interaction from D1, including he and Ziggy’s interaction, which was v/v. I need to see if that is what is going on between me and Strog right now. I’m not entirely sure.

Yes I am slightly suspicious of this too. Since Strog hasn't played in a while (I have barely played at all, so I don't know anyone's playing methods, so I am playing based on interactions), is this legit noob play (I'm a noob that can't read other noobs) or have these gap years been one big wolf preparation haha?

I was being real yesterday (and today) to be blunt. I have many questions. Y'all have different lingo and styles, and I'm rusty, so it's not really a "noob card" that I'm "play[ing]." Re: not feeling concerned... Um, how should I react after seeing two dead villagers overnight? Go into tearful hysterics? 'Cuz that'd be wolfy as hell and over-the-top fake.


I mean, it sucks we lost two good peeps overnight, but at least they were vanilla, so there's silver lining. Another pro is the 1-shot wolf mechanic has been used up, so from now on, it'll just be 1 wolf kill maximum per night. I wasn't feeling the Stagg bandwagon yesterday, so I never voted to lynch him. I'm relieved that ZiggyJazz is vanilla, as that means people were reading way too much into her Google RNG screenshot thing.


I dunno, feel free to ask me any direct questions -- I'm an open book.

I'm gonna hold off on lynching until afternoon or so. I wanna feel up more people to get a good read on them. Way too many silent peeps like Allie and MJ and devyn and others I don't know.

Mad Jack said: ↑

Definitely just NAI, it's regular strog

So Strog has a regular type of gameplay?

Yeah, an overthinker

I knew I had played WW with Strog before!


https://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/a-very-wwerewolfe-christmas.1233237/

Genny posted the game and she died and flipped village (how convenient), MJ has been on Strog’s votes (this would be clever of MJ if MJ is a wolf and if Strog flips village- we may not know MJ’s intentions until after Strog flips, hopefully it will tell us something).


I am going with my initial gut feeling from the beginning based off of our initial reactions (but I kept my lynch off of you but you had me slightly convinced of your argument). I feel that you have a gamestyle (so know enough of the terms and have played with some of the people here and it was pretty smart to use your gap years to your advantage. I hope you don’t flip village, but I do believe it was dangerous that you admitted you played before (yes, I know it wasn’t here on pre-vet WW, but it was still with some of the people that are currently playing here, and you played pretty smart and were able to stay around based on you being rusty and not understanding some lingos).


UNLYNCH WZ for today


(I’ll save your questions for tomorrow (sorry I couldn’t do it today, and I won’t lynch you until I have time to answer all of your questions, if I am still around tomorrow, because I am still unsure of you too.)) This is my last post before lynch close, fyi.


I think something needs to be addressed first, so:


LYNCH STROG

Edit: needed to add the word "on"

 

[WildZoo]

Then, do you think I would pick this level of fight with you if I was a wolf, and then also be simultaneously bussing a packmate?

I'd re-evaluate if I were you; seems like a lot of work and a big headache to get you lynched if i knew you were going to flip village, and I already have a headache so I'm all set on that front

If I felt super strongly about it I'd be voting for you. It's within the realm of possibility in my mind though. I know you like a challenge

 

[WildZoo]

And actually, looking back at that tally reminded me --

@WildZoo why did you switch to allie during that tie, again? You know, if your test was to test if SAR was wolfy alongside Snowy, and your drunk self thought she was wolfy?



You switched to allie kinda randomly. It was around the time you said "are we lynching pickles now?" and then instead of throwing a vote to one of the existing counter wagons, you moved from SAR to allie.

Explain that move in the context of you saying:
- aw are we lynching pickles
- thinking snowy was a wolf
- thinking SAR was also a wolf (I believe you said the cornerstone of your theoretical pack or some such thing)

No one else wanted to lynch SAR