Back to Basics: Hiking the NH48 WW - Game Thread

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The allie flip clears her for me at least for the time being when there are more suspicious people

Who else besides strog? Sporty/pippy maybe? What do you think about shelter/lawper? I feel like the sub in took a lot of attention off a popular pick that went on for 2 days and now has no interest
 
Who else besides strog? Sporty/pippy maybe? What do you think about shelter/lawper? I feel like the sub in took a lot of attention off a popular pick that went on for 2 days and now has no interest

I'm leaning sporty. I'm leaning village for pippy unless she's hardcore bussing.

I'm interested in Lawper but I was never leaning wolfy for shelter. Lawper is definitely flying under the radar
 
The allie flip clears her for me at least for the time being when there are more suspicious people
One more minor tinfoily thing to keep in mind in case I bite the dust soon...

She said she thought genny was a tracker, right? And that she came back to the thread and thought there had been some reason why people moved off of Snowy? And then she voted with genny for allie, thinking that was going to take off better than the SAR vote -- which would have made sense if she thought for some reason that allie got tracked.

It's a remote possibility. I think Strog & SportySpice are better candidates.

But if you lynch them and that doesn't add up...idk, I wouldn't just drop that lynch if I were you.
 
Why does that interest you?

I guess just because my first instinct was strog, and no one had interest. Now all of the sudden multiple people have contigency lynched him, which makes me feel stronger about my initial thoughts. And then today you acted "strog-like" in a way doing lots of defending? I dunno, still earning the game but it presented in my mind in a similar way. Was just throwing it out for people to take into consideration.
 
I'm leaning sporty. I'm leaning village for pippy unless she's hardcore bussing.

I'm interested in Lawper but I was never leaning wolfy for shelter. Lawper is definitely flying under the radar
I'd look back at voting for shelter vs bryndi -- I'm pretty sure that with allie flipping wolf, things look better for Lawper. I might be misremembering, so check that.

Probably would also be worth looking into Cubs, but Paws looks pretty good from a voting standpoint as well, I think.
 
Don't have the patience to do today's from my phone but updated the others

Day 1 Lynch Tracker

sporty (1) - stagg
stagg
(1) - AM
stagg (2) - SAR
strog (1) - pickles
strog (2) - paws
sporty (2) - zigzagoon
zigzagoon
(1) - barks
SAR (1) - dolphin
stagg (3) - bj
AM (1) - dubz
dina (1) - snowy
strog (1) - paws
dolphin (1) - paws
strog (2) - shelter
strog (1) - pickles
stagg (4) - genny
cheezit (1) - pickles
AM (2) - MJ
sporty (1) - stagg
AM (3) - stagg
zigzagoon
(2) - dina
sporty (0) - zigzagoon
devyn (1) - zigzagoon
cheezit (0) - pickles
sporty (1) - pickles
snowy (1) - cheezit
AM (2) - dubz
stagg (5) - dubz
AM (3) - allie
dina (1) - snowy
paws (1) - snowy
SAR (2) - sporty
sporty (0) - pickles
shelter (1) - pickles
devyn (0) - zig
stagg (6) - zig
zig
(3) - strog
zig (2) - strog
SAR (3) - strog
AM (2) - stagg
allie (1) - stagg
stagg (5) - AM
snowy (2) - AM
allie (0) - stagg
snowy (3) - stagg
snowy (2) - stagg
SAR (4) - stagg
@Stagg737 thought you might like to look at this one

Day 2 Lynch Tracker

snowy (1) - AM
snowy (2) - paws
SAR (1) - dubz
snowy (3) - dina
snowy (4) - cheezit
shelter (1) - sporty
strog (1) - pickles
pickles (1) - strog
allie (1) - genny
strog (0) - pickles
pickles (2) - snowy
shelter (2) - pickles
Dina (1) - SAR
shelter (1) - pickles
strog (1) - pickles
pickles (3) - barks
pickles (4) - MJ
snowy (3) - cheezit
snowy (2) - AM
dina (2) - AM
genny (1) - cheezit
sar (0) - dubz
allie (2) - dubz
dina (3) - bj
pickles (3) - snowy
dina (4) - snowy
dina (3) - AM
shelter (2) - AM
pickles (2) - barks
snowy (3) - barks
genny (0) - cheezit
snowy (4) - cheezit
dina (2) - snowy
pickles (3) - snowy
dina (1) - bj
SAR (1) - bj
dina (0) - SAR
snowy (5) - SAR
pickles (4) - allie

Day 3 Lynch Tracker

contingencies:
bj (1) - SAR
dubz (1) - cheezit
pippy (1) - MJ
night close

SAR
(1) - bj
shelter (1) - AM
dina (1) - barks
bj (2) - dubz
bj (3) - pickles
dina (0) - barks
allie (1) - pippy
allie (2) - genny
SAR (2) - shelter
barks (1) - allie
bj (4) - dina
SAR (1) - bj
shelter (2) - bj
shelter (3) - sporty
allie (1) - pippy
SAR (2) - pippy
strog (1) - cubs
shelter (4) - barks
SAR (3) - strog
pippy (0) - MJ
SAR (4) - MJ
shelter (3) - bj
bj (5) - bj
SAR (3) - pippy
dubz (1) - pippy
bj (4) - bj
dubz (2) - bj
bj (3) - pickles
SAR (4) - pickles
lynch close
shelter - AM
bj - AM

Day 4 Lynch Tracker
contingencies:
shelter (1) - AM
pickles (1) - barks
dubz (1) - bj
dubz (2) - pip
shelter (2) - dina
bj (1) - pickles
bj (0) - pickles
---
bj (1) - dubz
bj (2) - strog
pickles (0) - barks
shelter (3) - barks
bj (1) - strog
shelter (4) - strog
dubz (1) - pippy
bj (2) - pippy
shelter (5) - sporty
bj (3) - genny
shelter (6) - MJ
shelter (5) - dina
bj (4) - dina
bj (5) - cubs
bj (6) - shelter
shelter (6) - allie
bj (7) - pickles
dubz (0) - bj
shelter (7) - bj
 
I'd look back at voting for shelter vs bryndi -- I'm pretty sure that with allie flipping wolf, things look better for Lawper. I might be misremembering, so check that.

Probably would also be worth looking into Cubs, but Paws looks pretty good from a voting standpoint as well, I think.

If I'm still alive tomorrow I'm going to go back through and analyze votes. Paws has always leaned village to me but I have to look more into shelter/lawper.

Strog was high on my list today though so I feel comfortable casting a contigency
 
Slept past my 9:30 alarm. Guess my brizzain really needed the sleep. 120 messages to read...

Edit: *scrolls to end*

Cool, I'm still alive so can still post. Time to go back and binge read/respond to the last 4 pages then sleep till noon tomorrow.
 
Day 1 Lynch Tally
Sporty () -
Stagg (5) - SAR, bryndi, genny, dubz, zigzag
Strog (1) - shelter
zigzag (2) - Barks, dinamite
SAR (4) - dolphin, sporty, strog, stagg
AM (2) - MJ, allieh
Dina () -
dolphin (1) - Paws
Mel () -
devyn () -
snowy (2) - mel, am
paws (1) - snowy
shelter (1) - pickles
allieh () -

19/20
Missing: devyn

Day 2 Lynch Tally
Snowy (5)
- Paws, Dina, barkley, mel, sar
SAR
(1) - bryndy
shelter (2) - Sporty, am
Strog (1) - pickles
pickles (4) - Strog, mj, snowy, allieh
allie
(2) - genny, dubz
Dina () -
genny () -

15/17
Missing: shelter, devyn

Day 3 Lynch Tally
bryndy (3) - sar, dubz, dina
pippy () -
sar (4) - shelter, strog, mj, pickles
shelter (3) - am, sporty, barkley
dina () -
allie (1) - genny
Barks (1) - allie
strog (1) - cubs
dubz (2) - pips, bryndi

15/15

Day 4 Lynch Tally
shelter (7)
- am, barkley, strog, sportyspice, MJ, allie, bryndi
pickles () -
dubz () -
bryndi (7) - dubz, pip, genny, Dina, cubs, shelter, pickles

14/14

Day 5 Lynch Tally

WZ (1) - Dina
Lawpy (1) - cubs
Sporty () -
allie (3) - AM, WZ, Pippy
Strog (2) - Barks, pickles
MJ (3) - Lawpy, Strog, allie
Barks (1) - Sporty
Pippy (1) - MJ

12/12
 
Some things. My first impression is these are not w/w interactions.

Same as I said: Going off no intel such as prior nights' kills or intel from an angel-type role, on D1, villagers are just shooting blindly based off nothing concrete, so there is a high chance we accidentally lynch another villager, giving wolves the advantage from the get-go.
But that's the thing...as the day goes on and we push each other a little bit, normally we get some decent reads to go off of. Even on D2 unless PRs get lucky N1 we still have a high chance of "accidentally" lynching a villager.

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It's haphazard to vote to lynch someone without intel though. I'd much rather build unity as a hiking group and buckle down for the night. I'm just much more conservative with casting a vote instead of just going "OH I CHOOSE SOMEONE TO DIE BASED OFF CHANCE."


But you can't rely too much on intel. I think that's what the point of this "basics" game is...the majority of the time you need to vote based on your reads and your gut feelings about how other people are acting.
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this is not me defending strog. but if he hasn't played in as long as he says, things have really changed since then. D1 votes used to literally just be a bunch of RNG.
Maybe this one could be a soft defense of a packmate? Idk feels too unpolished for that.
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I'm gonna hold off on lynching until afternoon or so. I wanna feel up more people to get a good read on them. Way too many silent peeps like Allie and MJ and devyn and others I don't know.

Excuse me, lol. Just because I'm not as vocal as you/others does not mean I'm silent. Devyn, yes. Me, no. I don't have time to make a lot of fluff posts.

Congrats on the house. That's exciting.


I'm reading a bit of unnecessary snark in this post. I wasn't insulting you for being less vocal, just saying I'm hoping more people are active so I can get a better read on people, and it's a more fun game, since I'd prefer to not lynch another villager today if at all possible. I wasn't saying you were 100% silent either -- I don't have everyone's names memorized here (I have a separate tab open with a list of people playing) but your name came immediately to mind. Don't read too much into my post by comparing you to devyn, for example, as I wasn't insinuating that you are both equally silent. 🙂
 
Day 2 Lynch Tally
Snowy (5)
- Paws, Dina, barkley, mel, sar
SAR
(1) - bryndy
shelter (2) - Sporty, am
Strog (1) - pickles
pickles (4) - Strog, mj, snowy, allieh
allie
(2) - genny, dubz
Dina () -
genny () -

15/17
Missing: shelter, devyn
Also. Strog being wolf would mean there were three wolves on pickles here. That feels excessive, at least at first glance.

He and pickles had their whole back and forth and it seems like it would be a little much for two other wolves to also be pushing her, not just in votes but in thread interactions as well.
 
Salted Wasteland
Stagg - Jefferson, vanillager
Dolphin - Moosilauke, vanillager
Zigzag - Whiteface, vanillager
Snowy - Carter Dome, vanilla wolf
Mel - Mount Isolation, vanillager
Sar - Mount Tecumseh, vanillager
Bryndy - Mount Passaconaway, vanillager
Genny - Mount Monroe, vanillager
Allie - Mount Tom, vanilla wolf
MJ - Mount Washington, vanillager
Can I just say how fascinated I am that neither team is hitting the other's PRs so far? This feels highly unusual.
 
Can I just say how fascinated I am that neither team is hitting the other's PRs so far? This feels highly unusual.

I know. The village PRs are really doing a really swell job of not being nk'ed despite the circumstances.
 
Should’ve put it in before driving home. Now I’m annoyed :annoyed:

#######contingency lynch dubz#####

my second scrotal hole in two days, btw. It’s been a fun time. @Melchizedek (obligatory tag)
But if you do this the wolves are less likely to kill me and I have lynched a wolf so now I am really ready to go out on a high note 🙁
 
Long multi-quote coming from the last 4 pages/hours or so. Granted, I'm extremely groggy posting with a 20 hour+ sleep deficit for the week, so forgive any brainfarts.

Do you have a bus driving license? I think that requires a special operator's class
Hope the fact that MJ flipped village makes you realize that I wasn't busing MJ. I meant what I said: I was testing to see if he would follow suit and keep his word and copy my lynch vote.

Why do you say this? Are you upset that I said I'd 100 percent lynch you? There are plenty of people who post less.
I have zero recollection of you ever saying you would 100% lynch me. I'll have to go back and try to find the post.

I just posted a long analysis in why I was voting dubz. Im not really into posting a bunch of random fluff
When I said that you don't post much, I wasn't asking for fluff, just any posts. I don't remember you posting a long analysis on why you were voting for dubz, so I'll also have to go back and find your post.

How was I too aggressively against pickles? She's still sketchy and if I'm remembering correctly, you also thought she was sketchy at one point. This also feels slightly retaliatory since part of your reasoning if that you don't like my reasoning against you.
My partial logic is:
1. I know I'm not a wolf.
2. Your reasoning for lynching me didn't make sense to me.
3. I *loved* your reasoning for pickles back then, because I was also suspecting pickles. But in the past few days she seems normal.
4. I'm suspicious of people who vote to lynch me since I know I'm a villager and it's wolfy to want to falsely accuse me of being a wolf and lynch yet another villager. That's how the wolves win.

Anyways, don't read too much into this post, since I'm way too groggy to really articulate my reasoning (will be much better tomorrow afternoon).

Lawper/shelter - shelter was sketchier earlier and I think it would've been better if lawper had just admitted that instead of trying to play it like shelter did analysis and was helping the village. He was definitely reaching to try to make her look not sketchy so that he would look better coming in.
This make sense, but curious how often a wolf would sub out? So shelter being a wolf then giving up then giving that role to Lawper. As I said earlier, being a wolf in WW is (for me) a once in a decade (literally) opportunity, so it's not something I would so easily squander and ask for a sub.

I am going with my initial gut feeling from the beginning based off of our initial reactions (but I kept my lynch off of you but you had me slightly convinced of your argument). I feel that you have a gamestyle (so know enough of the terms and have played with some of the people here and it was pretty smart to use your gap years to your advantage. I hope you don’t flip village, but I do believe it was dangerous that you admitted you played before (yes, I know it wasn’t here on pre-vet WW, but it was still with some of the people that are currently playing here, and you played pretty smart and were able to stay around based on you being rusty and not understanding some lingos).
I don't understand what you mean by "use your gap years to your advantage." If you're implying that my "gap years" where I worked myself to death and didn't play WW is some long strategic move just for WW, you're weird. I legitimately had gap years because life got crazy, so when asked to play WW, had to say no. Same with TP.

I'm also not understanding you when you say that "so know enough of the terms" -- I didn't know ANY of the pre-vet terms. I think that fact can be substantiated being my first pre-vet WW game and not knowing the pre-vet WW terms, and it's reasonable to believe that.

Re: you think it was dangerous to admit that I've played WW before. You are confusing the hell out of me. I played on SDN when it first came out in like 2005 and 2006. We developed a culture and lynched FML on Day 1.

I guess I'm too confused to understand why you're turning on me. FWIW, I think you're village, but you're playing an illogical villager.

I'm not offended that you're voting for me, but I'm definitely confused.

OK, I'm gonna hit "Post Reply" since this multi-quote is enough and then respond to pages 40-42 posts.
 
We now have two cycles until mylo. It's actually fun to see this switch between the *ylos like every other day.
 
4. I'm suspicious of people who vote to lynch me since I know I'm a villager and it's wolfy to want to falsely accuse me of being a wolf and lynch yet another villager. That's how the wolves win.
This isn't the best way to look at things tbh. Other villagers don't know your affiliation and are wrong all the time. Being incorrect is NAI unless you're @Animal Midwife.
 
You don't think they would try to kill me? I kinda thought I was up on the chopping block for some of today
Why would they want to kill you? I think they enjoy our fites.

Oh. I guess that means they wouldn't want to kill me either. Sigh.
 
Whats a bus candidate?

It's how a wolf gets village cred by trying to lynch or by pushing for their fellow wolf's lynch

^ Re: above two posts: cubs, as I just said to Pippy, I hope the fact that MJ flipped village gives credibility to the fact that I wasn't throwing a wolf under the bus. I legitimately thought MJ could be a wolf who was just voting the way I voted every time.

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7:00 PM
*****
lol, Pacific Time. Always behind.

OK, End of page 40.... allieh at 9:59 PM EST unlynched Barks and lynched MJ for "self preservation." In hindsight, since MJ flipped village, this makes me suspicious of allieh's last minute vote.
 
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