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My current wifoms

Bean could be scum and I just don’t know it
Kitz could be scum and was either well coached or is just relying on overall derp
Clem could always be scum
Zenge is suddenly majorly confident I’m village after scum reading me which is great because I am village but what changed his tune
Alissa I have never played with before (and admittedly after rereading I am also confused by the Judas thing)
Apop is just an enigma, much like fruit. Could be scum, could not.
 
My current wifoms

Bean could be scum and I just don’t know it
Kitz could be scum and was either well coached or is just relying on overall derp
Clem could always be scum
Zenge is suddenly majorly confident I’m village after scum reading me which is great because I am village but what changed his tune
Alissa I have never played with before (and admittedly after rereading I am also confused by the Judas thing)
Apop is just an enigma, much like fruit. Could be scum, could not.
Can we find common ground on clem? I feel pretty good about that one. Better or equal to beans in the current situation based on some messages from today
 
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My current wifoms

Bean could be scum and I just don’t know it
Kitz could be scum and was either well coached or is just relying on overall derp
Clem could always be scum
Zenge is suddenly majorly confident I’m village after scum reading me which is great because I am village but what changed his tune
Alissa I have never played with before (and admittedly after rereading I am also confused by the Judas thing)
Apop is just an enigma, much like fruit. Could be scum, could not.
Are you village reading beans solely on your lover bond? Or is there other information worth sharing?
 
Are you village reading beans solely on your lover bond? Or is there other information worth sharing?
I’m reading beans as village based on their reads, their voting behavior, and what they shared in our PM (they’re investigations, village reading dubz).
 
It was mostly because rae claimed so long after the other vanillager claim when there weren't a lot of other players on thread AND I still hadn't realized there could be up to 12 randed vanillagers in this game. So I was trying to figure out if it was possible that she was lying about it. It just pinged me the wrong way. And yes, you are right shorty that her being on my list was also part of it.

Current reads & thoughts: This is in no particular order.

Villageleans
Clem - I maintain that he still feels more relaxed and chill like his village self.
genny - she seems to be acting like village!genny, especially considering the vote flip yesterday.
kitz - I do think she is pure nooblet. A tiny part of my brain is afraid she was coached through derp!clearing but that feels unlikely.
samac - her claim about mason as her aff and the ensuing confusion feels natural and towny.
PSV - asking good questions, seems to be actively solving.
alissa - she seems to be asking good questions and solving well. I just don't know her playstyle well. Cautiously townlean.
Zenge - he still feels towny to me but I do think samac was onto something yesterday with her comments about the thunderdoming/votes seeming to shift away from him. Another cautious townlean.

Unsure read
SAR - I've seen her act the way she is now as both village and scum. So uh *shrugs*
apop - IDK. Apop seems okay and like typical village!apop right now. However I don't know what she looks like as scum and that is making me nervous.
shorty - I am townreading her more than Dubz rn. She is solving well. The fear remains of some type of 3p weirdness.
Dubz - feels similar to village!Dubz back in ggoats so so long ago. But I've never seen her as scum. So like true neutral I guess.
Barks - I think I need more time with her before I will have a true read.

Scumleans
fruit? - I don't know what to make of fruit's comments today. He seems oddly defensive and I haven't seen that before. Soft scumlean for now?
rae - She hasn't done anything that makes me go "oh, she's village!" Whoever mentioned that spurs and rae may be different scum factions (dubz?) I think may be on to something.
Spurs - I'm starting to see what other players were mentioning yesterday that made him feel different from village!Spurs. I'm curious about him - maybe some type of 3p scum?

Edited: I forgot SAR!
Edited again: made everything colorless
@beans2020 what was your reaction to rae loverizing you? Do you believe their claim of lovebird?
Current thoughts:

Strongest village reads: kitz, zenge, shorty
Probably village but I'm paranoid about: samac, rae, dubz
POE: clem, SAR, alissa, apop, barks (apop, clem, or SAR in particular could be part of the spurs/PSV wolfpack. However all of these individuals have scum equity and could be part of a mafia/alien/goo?/serial killer/whatever I'm forgetting faction).
What changed in this read? How are you feeling about Rae now?
 
I still am tempted to yeet kitz
Do What You Must Schitts Creek GIF by CBC
 
My current wifoms

Bean could be scum and I just don’t know it
Kitz could be scum and was either well coached or is just relying on overall derp
Clem could always be scum
Zenge is suddenly majorly confident I’m village after scum reading me which is great because I am village but what changed his tune
Alissa I have never played with before (and admittedly after rereading I am also confused by the Judas thing)
Apop is just an enigma, much like fruit. Could be scum, could not.
You were my top scum read yesterday so I spent a lot of time reading through your posts and trying to solve you. I ultimately came to the conclusion you were pure Town.
 
Okay stay with me guys


A lot of pushing early on that there are only werewolves and no mafia. Not only statistically unlikely, but also a big Ole red herring. Both past cyo games had 3 factions with 2 or less members each.

I'm going to be operating with the assumption moving forward that there is only one proper/full scum faction, so any time I refer to someone as cleared town or similar please append an "assuming there's only one scum faction remaining" or a "by which I mean not aligned with psv and spurs" modifier to the sentence

Scum reads lately are mostly low fruit/ people in steady contention
Maybe alissa idk, I still think she's town, not as confident as I want to be about it

Unless you have a vig shot you're gonna use on beans, then I'll go for kitz today

Pushing a couple times for yeets that could potentially help mafia (e.g. alissa if true and beans if town)
So we either commit to killing alissa twice in a row right now or we never kill her

There isn't time to punt the decision another day if she's telling the truth

Again pushing a wolves-only narrative
It's a huge gamble yeah, if there are two werewolves alive we lose

No it's specific faction this time

I am convinced that our remaining factional scum are werewolves, same as psv and spurs, yeah

WIFOM to throw of mafia
Where are the other night deaths
 
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Okay stay with me guys


A lot of pushing early on that there are only werewolves and no mafia. Not only statistically unlikely, but also a big Ole red herring. Both past cyo games had 3 factions with 2 or less members each.



Scum reads lately are mostly low fruit/ people in steady contention




Pushing a couple times for yeets that could potentially help mafia (e.g. alissa if true and beans if town)


Again pushing a wolves-only narrative




WIFOM to throw of mafia
Ok

Show me where I'm wrong about there likely being just werewolves left for factional scum then
 
Ok, then like...what is it? Because I pretty explicitly don't like playing scum as much as town
Honestly your play style really suits scumming (not in a bad way) and you seem like you would enjoy yourself regardless of faction. It's obviously not my only read though.

Fwiw trying to read me by iso is usually a mistake
Well, if i'm making a mistake, at least i know I put my best effort in 😅
 
Anyw
Honestly your play style really suits scumming (not in a bad way) and you seem like you would enjoy yourself regardless of faction. It's obviously not my only read though.


Well, if i'm making a mistake, at least i know I put my best effort in 😅
It's not your best effort if it's a bad way to do it lol
 
@beans2020 what was your reaction to rae loverizing you? Do you believe their claim of lovebird?

What changed in this read? How are you feeling about Rae now?
I didn't know rae loverized me at first - I assumed there was some type of cupid adjacent role (from my time playing in person mafia). I thought it was pretty ironic given that we had just been scumreading each other and was wondering if whoever the scum was made us lovers to try and get rid of two village with one stone. But then rae claimed lovebird and explained why she chose me to be her lover. I believe her because honestly the evidence that she is a lovebird is right in front of me. I don't know if it would be mechanically possible for us to become lovers without her being a lovebird.
My read on rae changed after spurs died - it didn't seem likely at all to me that she would be pushing spurs so hard if she was wolfing with him. That was also when we become lovers and honestly that had a big effect on my read too - I couldn't figure out why rae would loverize herself to someone who had been scum read by multiple people up to that point if she herself was scum. That's certainly not a choice I would make if I was trying to make it to endgame. Now? I still think rae is village. Her reads are good and she is playing like village!rae - which does often get scumread by other players because she likes to go against the grain and question everything. I think that's why dubz and SAR wanted to yeet her - her reads seemed out there enough to make her look sketchy. But I think they are good reads and good questions for a village player to be asking.
 
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Hmm I've never seen village clem respond to pressure of any kind (and believe me I've tried) so idk what to make of this reaction. and almost all of our long term players are gone 🥲
Don't get too excited, I'm only responding to try and firm up my read on you