CHOOSE YOUR OWWN IV - Game Thread

[supershorty]

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I liked her tone in end of day yesterday. I don't think scum dubz draws as much attention as loudly as she did last night with questioning her own vote unless she was paired with ceegee and looking for a way off which now we know she isn't

I've been thinking about this post for a while now and feeling like maybe Dubz isn't in my POE anymore because I feel like we're seeing the game pretty similarly.

but what if she's seeing the game the same way I am to pocket me bc I said I was sussing her for us having different takes, that wouldn't be outside her wolf range hey look dubz I can do it too!

 

[alissa14]

sorry for being snippy, i just didn’t like this coordinated push that suddenly appeared on me with people dropping me to wolfreads out of the blue due to exaggerated focus on voting patterns and extrapolating what i would or would not do

and it honestly looks like i’m getting scolded out of hindsight bias

because CG is village, i get condemned as if i led that wagon and with no doubt given that i simply made a bad move in a high pressure environment

i also note the wolfreads i mentioned last night are launching this coordinated attack on me (see spurs, rae, barky, with alissa confusingly hopping on because my wafflee give her a headache - sorry for being indecisive)

I know how it feels to have a coordinated push on you and its not fun. I am in no way part of some coordinated effort to attack you. I still can't get a great read on you and the vote-switching has really thrown me off. If you can maybe go through your previous votes and give me some insight on your thought process at the time, I would find that extremely helpful (I think spurs suggested this???)

i don’t bus

nOt wItH tHaT aTtItUdE
but in all seriousness, i have not played enough games with you to know whether switching up your play style is within your scum range or not.

this does not count towards my ability to read dubz

(Unless it's correct)

Dubz just played not-town and afaik doesn't particularly enjoy playing not-town, so they're lock town

i don't know.... scum dubz is formidable and I could maybe see her choosing it if it was fun....

 

[samac]

So I'll be honest, most of your posts in the catch up I also skipped 😛 But I caught enough of them as I breezed through that I could tell you put in a lot of effort into making your reads, and I think you and I had some interactions yesterday in real time that felt good. Those were enough to give me village-y vibes on you. Nothing in particular stood out about dubZ's posts as I breezed through to push me one way or the other, and I'm definitely not going to go post-by-post, and even if I did I don't believe I would be able to confidently say village or scum. So I landed on neutral.

samac's mason thing did not factor into my read at all. TBH I really am not thinking about affiliation claims. I'm sorry if you're looking for more, but for samac it really is just vibes, "something felt off."

For kitz, I think a lot of people derpcleared her for the discussion you mentioned above. But what stood out to me was I think she only offered reads when pressed, and only then offered negative opinions on highly visible posters (you, dubZ, and samac) and someone who W-read her (apop). Those reads don't look very village-y to me.

Sorry, I think you misunderstood--I think she got flack from other players for limited reasoning on her reads lists, and it seemed to be part of what led other players to start a wagon on her. I did not have that criticism of her reads list, and I found the interaction between me and her today to be pretty genuine.

Yes. After reading that the site was under maintenance when they tried to catch up, I think that's fair. I assume at some point Barky will give some reasoning for their vote...

Other than pushing me for a mech reason do you feel kitz offered a lot of reads last game?

 

[potentialsheltervet]

this does not count towards my ability to read dubz

(Unless it's correct)

Dubz just played not-town and afaik doesn't particularly enjoy playing not-town, so they're lock town

I'm confused how you came to this conclusion?

 

[alissa14]

I've been thinking about this post for a while now and feeling like maybe Dubz isn't in my POE anymore because I feel like we're seeing the game pretty similarly.

but what if she's seeing the game the same way I am to pocket me bc I said I was sussing her for us having different takes, that wouldn't be outside her wolf range hey look dubz I can do it too!

didn't you just say yesterday that it was pinging you that you and dubz were seeing eye to eye?

 

[kitzsuna]

What do you mean by this?

Like, other people are making POE lists and i guess im struggling to follow since to my eyes i havent seen anything particularly nefarious

But yall know each other and your playstyles better than i do

 

[WildZoo]

Yeah but you don't like...LOVE it, is my point, relative to the amount you enjoy playing town. I think?

At this exact point in time that would be accurate, probably. I still struggle with my own expectations of my scum game so it becomes stressful for me in a way that being town does not. I do love it when I feel like I'm doing it well, but I wouldn't choose it most of the time.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

my tummy hurts very much and my head is starting to hurt 🙁

 

[samac]

Right now my reads are something like this:
village: shorty (or 3p), samac, kitz, SAR
Village lean: psv, genny, barks????
POE: fruit, dubz, zenge, apop, rae

Everyone else I can’t quite sort yet but that at least covers everyone I have played multiple games with

…. SAR?

 

[alissa14]

Wat. He was voting me on and off all day

it was my brief fruit/bark pack theory. Though, allegedly, fruit doesn't bus

 

[supershorty]

didn't you just say yesterday that it was pinging you that you and dubz were seeing eye to eye?

No, it was pinging me that we WEREN'T doing that, but that is what had concerned me in previous games.

Yesterday!me felt like Dubz and I were seeing the game very differently, which I'm not sure was actually as supported by reads lists as I felt like it was in my head (Dubz and I talked about this last night before my bedtime), but I don't really feel that way today.

 

[kitzsuna]

Maybe she's making more cocaine

Nah today’s big project was cleaning all my fish tanks lol

Say hello to rigatoni and spaghetti!

 

[alissa14]

Can I play a fun exercise
Who do we think is gonna die tonight

I am really hoping I live until at least day 3. Mainly because it would suck to die early after I have been in retirement for so long

 

[WildZoo]

I've been thinking about this post for a while now and feeling like maybe Dubz isn't in my POE anymore because I feel like we're seeing the game pretty similarly.

but what if she's seeing the game the same way I am to pocket me bc I said I was sussing her for us having different takes, that wouldn't be outside her wolf range hey look dubz I can do it too!

There would be no need to pocket you when I'd just be killing you and then blaming Zenge, smh

 

[SARdoghandler]

Why?

Cuz vibes

This post brought to you by half drank sar

 

[WildZoo]

Nah today’s big project was cleaning all my fish tanks lol

Say hello to rigatoni and spaghetti!
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YOU HAVE A MARINE TANK?!

 

[samac]

I am really hoping I live until at least day 3. Mainly because it would suck to die early after I have been in retirement for so long

I bet you make it to day 2 at least

 

[GoSpursGo]

Well that's problematic for me because I think they're pretty dang village and I don't think the voting behavior you've focused on is even something that pans out as being scummy

I think I have expended as many words on this as I care to, so OK?

I’ll give you more later but it’s dinner time.

 

[supershorty]

Like, other people are making POE lists and i guess im struggling to follow since to my eyes i havent seen anything particularly nefarious

But yall know each other and your playstyles better than i do

Okay, and that can be hard when you're new to something, especially when your only 2 games are not classical setups.

But we've had nearly 2 full calendar days of discussion now and someone has died. Do you have a good feeling (or at least better than you seem to feel about high posters, lol) about anyone in the game?

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Me: I hate being behind on the thread. I have no idea what's going on
Also me: I don't want to read the thread. All of that stuff is past!

 

[samac]

Since no one appreciated my mini isos, let's go back to this format

Village:
1. @_rae_ it’s a me, Mario
6. @kitzsuna - derp!V, easily poking at high posters, if she's wolfing someone is coaching her really well.
10. @alissa14 - I like the work she's doing today. A lot of people say they accidentally scum read her, but I'm getting village vibes. Especially doing all that work with the votes and such. The wifom they just went through on spurs too also feels village.
14. @potentialsheltervet - I felt like her push on samac made sense. I didn't agree with it because I saw the samac confusion I think, but I followed her logic. I feel like her pokes have been very reasonable.
11. @apoptosis09 - this is all well within apop's village range. I also like that apop didn't jump on the CG wagon, even though zenge was truly at risk of being yeeted for a bit.

Neutral/Unsure:
13. @Barkley13 - still playing catch up, don't have a good read. Obviously I'm sus reading spurs so the spurs vote doesn't feel bad to me, but I could be wrong.
2. @Clem J - see mini iso
9. @beans2020 - I don't love beans' CG vote, but her other pokes have felt natural (asking about Kitz and I, asking about Barks). She is village reading zenge and I am not, but that could be difference in analysis.
3. @SARdoghandler - I don't think I like SAR putting Dubz in their town list; having flashbacks to SAR/dubz wolf team. Having said that, her beans yeet felt genuine and her interactions with Samac after voting for her felt village.
5. @genny - genny unyeeted zenge and did not end up voting last night. I dislike that. But everything else about genny feels village.
utc. @supershorty - I think the panicking on the zenge vote is village coded. Her pokes and questions feel natural. Tbf I have never seen shorty wolf, but I don't think wolf!shorty would get off of zenge so quickly at the last second. Similar to genny though, I dislike the lack of vote.

POE:
99. @fruitsalad - see mini iso, I highly dislike fruit's vote patterns and interactions with zenge. Fruit is #1 wolf right now.
12. @Zenge142 - I don’t like Zenge's interactions with fruit and I'm not a fan of how that vote went.
21. @GoSpursGo - see mini iso and interactions today,
7. @WildZoo - I did not like dubz' reads list. Wolf reading shorty, village reading fruit, "pinged" CG and ended up voting there EOD even after noting they were misyeeted in SPN.


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4. @CeeGee14 - don’t want to yeet CG yet. CG is frequently misyeetable. <---- what I said pre-CG flip

Hey where am I

 

[kitzsuna]

my tummy hurts very much and my head is starting to hurt 🙁

Nooo 🙁

 

[WildZoo]

I still don't like rae's notes on me at all but I guess I should read the rest of it

 

[potentialsheltervet]

In summary

 

[samac]

In summary
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READ IT

 

[WildZoo]

Yeah I definitely have too many people in my village to village lean pile. Someone do something sketchy.

 

[kitzsuna]

YOU HAVE A MARINE TANK?!

I do! I also have 2 bettas as well 😁

But my clownfish are the loves of my life. They traveled cross country with me! And im already having nightmares about moving them again when i go to school which is why i am praying for in state lol

 

[WildZoo]

In summary
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I fully believe in just real timing and only going back to read stuff if you really feel like it

 

[supershorty]

Yeah I definitely have too many people in my village to village lean pile. Someone do something sketchy.

I feel this, and I find myself doing a Zenge and going "it's multiball! everyone's scum hunting!" but I think I'm just wrong somewhere(s).

 

[WildZoo]

That's right samac

Hey btw

R u sure you're village? 🧐

 

[samac]

That's right samac

Hey btw

R u sure you're village? 🧐

I am!

 

[WildZoo]

I am!

Whomst is in your pool of eels?

 

[potentialsheltervet]

I fully believe in just real timing and only going back to read stuff if you really feel like it

I will probably have to do this tbh
but then I have so much anxiety over my votes because I'm like "shoot idk what anyone else is talking about"
Unfortunately I do think I might be a bit... ill

 

[samac]

Whomst is in your pool of eels?

Not a big ****ing idea tbh

 

[samac]

Not a big ****ing idea tbh

Well some idea
Spurs vs Rae in particular. But that’s not enough

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Well some idea
Spurs vs Rae in particular. But that’s not enough

What do you mean by not enough?

 

[samac]

What do you mean by not enough?

Of scum. There’s more of em out there.
I’m kinda disappointed in myself and my reads here tbh

 

[kitzsuna]

Okay, and that can be hard when you're new to something, especially when your only 2 games are not classical setups.

But we've had nearly 2 full calendar days of discussion now and someone has died. Do you have a good feeling (or at least better than you seem to feel about high posters, lol) about anyone in the game?

I think i feel most confident in thinking PSV is village. I think rae may be as well i also need to go back and find a list of everyone in the game lol

I feel like i havent seen enough of barks or beans to make foo much of an informed decision, but trying to not weigh that too much cause im also not on here a ton i feel lol

Man this thinking sheet is hard lol

 

[WildZoo]

Cursed thought: we ended with multiple lone or very very small scum factions and we are doomed

 

[samac]

Cursed thought: we ended with multiple lone or very very small scum factions and we are doomed

To live in a world where most people chose village is a good world

 

[supershorty]

I think i feel most confident in thinking PSV is village. I think rae may be as well

Cool. Why do you feel that way?

 

[WildZoo]

Well some idea
Spurs vs Rae in particular. But that’s not enough

Yeah. That's where I'm sitting.

 

[WildZoo]

To live in a world where most people chose village is a good world

No it's not! It's so much easier to find larger packs!

 

[WildZoo]

Unless you want to have to solve purely on mechanics because literally no one has an agenda other than keeping themselves alive! Smh.

 

[supershorty]

Unless you want to have to solve purely on mechanics because literally no one has an agenda other than keeping themselves alive! Smh.

Imagine solving purely on mechanics in a game with quiet actions.

 

[samac]

Unless you want to have to solve purely on mechanics because literally no one has an agenda other than keeping themselves alive! Smh.

… I didn’t think of it that way
And actions are quiet? Blech

 

[kitzsuna]

Cool. Why do you feel that way?

Lmao i feel like im taking a failing test

Vibes. PSV seems pure lol

Rae idk. Again vibe

Aaaand now i have to go to class rip

 

[WildZoo]

Imagine solving purely on mechanics in a game with quiet actions.

We're stuck with investigative roles that might not exist and uh...

Problematic analysis of role card options lol

 

[alissa14]

Village:
10. @alissa14 - I like the work she's doing today. A lot of people say they accidentally scum read her, but I'm getting village vibes. Especially doing all that work with the votes and such. The wifom they just went through on spurs too also feels village.


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4. @CeeGee14 - don’t want to yeet CG yet. CG is frequently misyeetable. <---- what I said pre-CG flip

FWIW i liked the mini isos because it saved me work of going through posts lol.

I will say that I often read other's reads of me to try and get a sense of what I think they are. I will say that "putting in the work" is not AI for me. Trust me when I say that I put in just as much work, if not more, when playing as scum because I am not good at playing scum, despite enjoying it. I am not the only one who will put in a lot of effort when scum so I caution you using it in the future to try and get a sense of affiliation of a player. Had you only said that you were village reading me based on the effort I am putting in, I would have given you scum points for your read of me. However, your assessment of my WIFOM puts it more neutral.

I do however dislike that you pointed out what you said pre-CG flip. I am trying to decide if its scum saying "look guys I didn't want to yeet a player that we now know is village. I am village too because of this." especially since you didn't really read CG as village based on your own words. And you also said "yet" further implying that you were unsure of your CG read. I am trying to decide how many wolf points you get for making an effort of pointing it out. Am I seeing evidence of scum feeling the pressure of other player's reads?

 

[supershorty]

Lmao i feel like im taking a failing test

Vibes. PSV seems pure lol

Rae idk. Again vibe

Aaaand now i have to go to class rip

Okay, I'm going to try something else.

When you get back, can you tell me something you'd want to lie detect in this game, if you had the ability you had last game?