Class of 2020... how you doin?

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Oh yeah, those are very different fields :laugh: it also depends on which place you're applying to. Some places want that specialty internship, it's trending that way. However, some places (like Davis) want people fresh out of internships so they don't have to retain bad habits. So apply smart, maybe you won't have to do an extra year!

I’m kinda of the mindset of planning on a speciality internship and be pleasantly surprised if I can shave a year off of training. Plus surg onc speciality internships are a thing, so it wouldn’t be the worst thing ever🙂
 
I've heard it's definitely going to suck regardless but there are some places that treat you better than others. Georgia for example I've heard is very protective of their interns.

This.

Yes, internships are gonna suck in general, but some try to suck less.

I applied accordingly.
 
You could probably add Gulf Coast to this list IMO. There’s probs others I’m not thinking of.
I’ve looked into Friendship, DoveLewis, and Ocean State as well, and I know they’re private practice, and I’m pretty sure they’re at a similar level. They seem to be for emergency, which is what is the inviting factor for me
 
Do you have any research experience? You might be surprised. I have zero interest in true bench-top research but clinical research is a great love. If your interested in surgery, it’ll be of great help to you to have some research experience when you go to apply to residency.

NIH for about 7 years before Vet school. Mix of bench science, animal behavioral models, and then genetic engineering with CRISPR/IVF. Published some papers and all that jazz. Didn't do research specifically attached to a vet, so I did the NIH/BI/Merial scholar program last summer to check it off the list. I've never teched a day in my life, so that's pretty much my main goal this summer before I hit clinics so I'm not an absolute ***** and can focus on the medicine/working with the doctors and less about small animal hospital skills.
 
Did you mostly talk to past interns? Or...?

Once you read enough program descriptions on VIRMP, you start to get a feel for who might give a potato about their interns and who might not. I looked for things like mentions of guaranteed days off during the week, how much PTO they give and when you can use it, what overnight ER support looks like, etc.

When I reached out to current interns, I also asked them about these things and what their experiences were with them. I also asked questions like how they would describe their quality of life (with, of course, the expectation that this is a rotating internship program and you are going to be quite busy with it regardless of what program you end up in), how they would describe the quality of mentorship they have received, what their experience is with support (or lack thereof) on ER overnights, etc.

You also just hear things through the grapevine. When you get on clinics, asking house officers about where they applied, whether they know anybody at the places you are looking at, etc is another good way to get some insight.

It’s a good idea to talk with your faculty clinicians about this stuff as well. As I’m sure you have experienced by now, vet med is a small world - people know people all over the place.

When you start interviewing for programs (if they do interviews, not all of them do), you can also use this as another opportunity to get a feel for the vibe of the program and aspects you are especially interested in/that are important to you. Remember that you do not have to rank all of the programs you applied for.

I also want to note that different specialties feel differently about whether you do a private rotating internship or an academic rotating internship. Some have strong feelings about this, some don’t. General advice for the masses who may be interested in specializing: talk to a faculty clinician in your specialty of interest about this when you are thinking about where to apply.
 
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Congratulations on the success, all of you wonderful, amazing human beings! :hardy: It’s kind of bittersweet for me knowing I won’t ever be able to celebrate becoming a doctor with you, but know that I am so, so very proud of all of the 2020’ers, pass or not, even simply for making it this far!
 
Once you read enough program descriptions on VIRMP, you start to get a feel for who might give a potato about their interns and who might not. I looked for things like mentions of guaranteed days off during the week, how much PTO they give and when you can use it, what overnight ER support looks like, etc.

When I reached out to current interns, I also asked them about these things and what their experiences were with them. I also asked questions like how they would describe their quality of life (with, of course, the expectation that this is a rotating internship program and you are going to be quite busy with it regardless of what program you end up in), how they would describe the quality of mentorship they have received, what their experience is with support (or lack thereof) on ER overnights, etc.

You also just hear things through the grapevine. When you get on clinics, asking house officers about where they applied, whether they know anybody at the places you are looking at, etc is another good way to get some insight.

It’s a good idea to talk with your faculty clinicians about this stuff as well. As I’m sure you have experienced by now, vet med is a small world - people know people all over the place.

When you start interviewing for programs (if they do interviews, not all of them do), you can also use this as another opportunity to get a feel for the vibe of the program and aspects you are especially interested in/that are important to you. Remember that you do not have to rank all of the programs you applied for.

I also want to note that different specialties feel differently about whether you do a private rotating internship or an academic rotating internship. Some have strong feelings about this, some don’t. General advice for the masses who may be interested in specializing: talk to a faculty clinician in your specialty of interest about this when you are thinking about where to apply.

This is super helpful. Thanks!

Also Congrats guys!
 
Wooo! Great jorb, guys. For those that passed, most excellent. You won't even recognize yourself a year from now. Those that have to go again, don't psych yourself out. Testing is something that doesn't really measure your worth, but they gotta have something. Just study, remain calm, and learn from your mistakes. Always here if someone needs help or a pick me up. :biglove:
 
Congrats everyone!

And I agree with Lupin and Kaydubs, if you got not-so-great news, take time to be sad but know that this failed test doesn't define you nor does it mean you will be a bad veterinarian. It's just a dumb formality exam that really isn't anything like practice anyway.
 
I’ve looked into Friendship, DoveLewis, and Ocean State as well, and I know they’re private practice, and I’m pretty sure they’re at a similar level. They seem to be for emergency, which is what is the inviting factor for me
Ooooh I happened upon this thread for the NAVLE results.

But also, DoveLewis is an amaaaazing hospital
 
I’m gonna be there for one of my externships and I’m really excited about it! (plus I’ve never been to Portland before, so it works!)
That’s awesome I’m sure you’ll love it. What time of year? The weather is pretty hit and miss for most of it lol. Let me know if you have questions about Portland at all 🙂
 
That’s a beautiful time to be there. Maybe even a little hot!

You have to go to the rose garden. Have to.
Fun fact my brother is actually trying to go to Portland in June to propose to his girlfriend (they both LOVE Portland pinots). And then he found out I’ll be in Portland in June and was very upset :laugh:
 
WHAT. YOUR BROTHER?!?!?!?! I AM SHOOK
Yessssssss he’ll have been dating this girl for 2 years and they actually dated for 3 1/2 years during college/ end of high school. They’ve been living together since like September of 2018, and officially moved in together February 2019. So it’ll be good
 
Yessssssss he’ll have been dating this girl for 2 years and they actually dated for 3 1/2 years during college/ end of high school. They’ve been living together since like September of 2018, and officially moved in together February 2019. So it’ll be good
ITS REALLY BEEN THAT LONG WHAT.
 
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