Columbia Waitlist.....Thread i guess

[CalGoldenBear]

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It was with another faculty member. So not quite sure about the whole 2nd interview business...

congrats! btw, did frantz write you any of his handwritten notes in response to letters you may have sent him (saying he'll keep you in mind, etc)?

 

[margerita]

congrats! btw, did frantz write you any of his handwritten notes in response to letters you may have sent him (saying he'll keep you in mind, etc)?

No handwritten notes, just standard typing.

 

[bubblebutt]

CONGRATS!!!!!!!!

Hopefully we'll see more waitlist movement soon!

No handwritten notes, just standard typing.

 

[bubblebutt]

Margerita, did you write several letters of intent? or were they updates on what you've been doing?

Thanks!

 

[margerita]

Margerita, did you write several letters of intent? or were they updates on what you've been doing?

Thanks!

I wrote a letter of intent sometime after interviewing and then sent two letters after I was waitlisted, which stressed why I wanted to go to Columbia, why I thought I was a good fit, and what I'd be doing this summer (because I didn't have anything current to update). My advice is to keep in touch with Dean Frantz!!

 

[bubblebutt]

I wrote a letter of intent sometime after interviewing and then sent two letters after I was waitlisted, which stressed why I wanted to go to Columbia, why I thought I was a good fit, and what I'd be doing this summer (because I didn't have anything current to update). My advice is to keep in touch with Dean Frantz!!

Thanks for the info!!!!! Much luck with everything!

 

[Turtle48]

bump.

This must be the quietest thread columbia waitlist thread ever. 🙁 Has ANYBODY heard ANYTHING? Still no on my part.

Where's Turtle48? He stopped bumping up this thread.

Katie, have you heard anything after your second interview?

Has anbody at P&S heard anything?

Hey butt (can I call you that?), I'm still here. This is definitely a much quieter wl thread than past years. I got tired of being the only one to bump so I quit. I thought I should just sit and wait until May 15.

 

[bubblebutt]

Hey butt (can I call you that?), I'm still here. This is definitely a much quieter wl thread than past years. I got tired of being the only one to bump so I quit. I thought I should just sit and wait until May 15.

Hmmm it seems that I took over your role as bumper then...

 

[eriol]

It *is* quieter than past years... I'm not sure why. But I also don't have much to say myself 🙂 I talked to Dr. Frantz recently and he said that there's still only minimal movement in the list (hopefully he's not just feeding me that to make me go away) and that he really can't say much, even about chances, until after the 15th. He told me that making predictions in past years was often more destructive than constructive. Apparently, everyone holds their multiple acceptances until the last possible second. I'm guilty of the same thing... though my excuse is that I haven't gotten my finaid packages from all my schools yet.

It's the same line of his that we've heard from several sources now... it seems as though the only thing to do now is to keep waiting. I was thinking the other day about how much longer there is to potentially wait, but then I realized how long it's already been and hey -- I'm still living 🙄

A question to maybe get the thread moving a little: how long do you all plan to hold out any real semblance of hope? I mean, I'll keep hoping up to the beginning of orientation, but if I haven't heard by the 1st-2nd week of June I'll start making plans for whatever school I ultimately decide on. Anyone else have a different plan?

 

[rme04]

yeah, i suppose the lackluster participation has more to do with the lack of topics to discuss than a diminished interest in P&S. Fewer people are reporting second interviews and comuniques with Dean Frantz, so there is nothing to really talk about. This is probably better anyways, it makes the waiting easier.

And I certainly agree with the fact that people hold multiple acceptance well into May. Im doing it. But im waiting for my financial aid stuff, too, so Ive got the same excuse.

im still holding onto some hope. there will be a few spots at least.

rme

 

[eriol]

there was another waitlist acceptance over on the P&S 2009 thread...

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=184487&page=8

 

[ky_at_hopkins]

Hello, I just joined the forum. I've been waitlisted at Columbia, but I've been accepted at the University of Southern California as well as my state (KY) schools. I wouldn't be terribly excited about living in New York, but I am excited about L.A. What do you think, should I hold out for Columbia or settle with USC?

 

[eriol]

Hello, I just joined the forum. I've been waitlisted at Columbia, but I've been accepted at the University of Southern California as well as my state (KY) schools. I wouldn't be terribly excited about living in New York, but I am excited about L.A. What do you think, should I hold out for Columbia or settle with USC?

Well you're going to get a biased answer on this thread 🙂 Personally speaking, I am definitely holding out for Columbia. It's my first choice. If you're excited about LA and the school, etc, go for it! Go wherever you know you will fit in the best; at the end of the day, we're all going to be doctors. I personally don't put much weight with things like USNWR rankings, etc. What matters most for me is where I'll be most comfortable and happy.

 

[JAMESdoe3]

Hello, I just joined the forum. I've been waitlisted at Columbia, but I've been accepted at the University of Southern California as well as my state (KY) schools. I wouldn't be terribly excited about living in New York, but I am excited about L.A. What do you think, should I hold out for Columbia or settle with USC?

If you are gonne hold out for Columbia, be prepared to commit for the long haul. Take a look at the '04 or '03 waitlist threads...nightmare.

Since this forum hasn't really moved I thought I would try to inject a little life into it: met with Frantz last week for second interview (I called it in in March), and it was a surprisingly enjoyable conversational interview. At the end he gave me his trademark "each year we overaccept..." shpiel, and then went on to tell me he was optimistic about this year, and then quickly retracted/qualified his statement. I don't mean to arouse false hopes or suspicion, I'm just telling you what happened. He also said that there were a number of students who he would probably have to accept off the waitlist because of ties to the university.

Overall he was a great guy to have met, and I actually left the interview feeling good about my chances, even though I don't have any connection to Columbia

Hope this helps get things moving on the thread. Please post, not PM. The fact that this isn't one of the most active threads already is little strange, and I can't believe its all the way back on page 3.

 

[eriol]

If you are gonne hold out for Columbia, be prepared to commit for the long haul. Take a look at the '04 or '03 waitlist threads...nightmare.

Since this forum hasn't really moved I thought I would try to inject a little life into it: met with Frantz last week for second interview (I called it in in March), and it was a surprisingly enjoyable conversational interview. At the end he gave me his trademark "each year we overaccept..." shpiel, and then went on to tell me he was optimistic about this year, and then quickly retracted/qualified his statement. I don't mean to arouse false hopes or suspicion, I'm just telling you what happened. He also said that there were a number of students who he would probably have to accept off the waitlist because of ties to the university.

Overall he was a great guy to have met, and I actually left the interview feeling good about my chances, even though I don't have any connection to Columbia

Hope this helps get things moving on the thread. Please post, not PM. The fact that this isn't one of the most active threads already is little strange, and I can't believe its all the way back on page 3.

Hey James, you said you called in a second interview? How'd you go about doing that? Did you call him up and just ask for one? I'm not quite sure why I'm bothering to ask - its not like he re-interviews people he talked to the first time around 🙂

 

[Turtle48]

He also said that there were a number of students who he would probably have to accept off the waitlist because of ties to the university.

What's considered a tie and how far does that go? I know of a former undergrad there who got a D+/C- in her bio/premed courses because she's a complete idiot and airhead...even if she was the university president's daughter, there's no way in hell anyone like her should be admitted. I certainly hope those people who are being admitted because of ties have worked as hard as the others. I have faith that the admissions process will be fair...

 

[shambohh]

Dean Frantz says the same thing to everyone. I know we've established that already, but I'm just reminding everyone not to get excited at anything that man says. It sucks that he has been doing this for so long and doesn't understand the mentality that we come to him with. I don't know about the rest of you, but any glimmer of hope that comes from the dean of admissions is a big thing for me, and I irrationally over analyze any positive words that are said. How can he build everyone's hopes up like that knowning that he will disappoint the majority?
Sorry but this waiting process SUCKS! And it's not just the waiting: The logistical mess that comes with it is worse. Think about housing, moving, storage, and other things that depend on this waitlist action. How are we supposed to carry on with our lives and summer plans? I understand that this might seem trivial to many, but I haven't been home in 2 years (I'm not from the US) and I just want to go back and see my parents with a clear plan, and a stress free mind. But NO! i have to wait till the last minute to find out where I'll be going next august. I say F*#k that. These Med schools know that we are a desperate group, and they treat us like S*&t. Sorry for this rant, but im just frustrated with all this waiting.

 

[bubblebutt]

I agree that If you want to stay on the P&S waitlist, I think that you should be committed to it. It seems from previous years that the wait is only going to get worst...

Thanks for the info JAMESdoe3. Great to hear that your second interview went well. Did you request for one? (I still haven't heard if I will be offered one) If Dean Frantz has to accept some students because of ties to the university, I'm surprised he didn't just accept them in the first round.

I assume that Dean Frantz waitlisted the same number of people this year so I agree it is odd how this thread is so quiet this year. Maybe other waitlisters decided to go elsewhere...or the other people that wanted to get in, got in already...

 

[eriol]

Dean Frantz says the same thing to everyone. I know we've established that already, but I'm just reminding everyone not to get excited at anything that man says. It sucks that he has been doing this for so long and doesn't understand the mentality that we come to him with. I don't know about the rest of you, but any glimmer of hope that comes from the dean of admissions is a big thing for me, and I irrationally over analyze any positive words that are said. How can he build everyone's hopes up like that knowning that he will disappoint the majority?
Sorry but this waiting process SUCKS! And it's not just the waiting: The logistical mess that comes with it is worse. Think about housing, moving, storage, and other things that depend on this waitlist action. How are we supposed to carry on with our lives and summer plans? I understand that this might seem trivial to many, but I haven't been home in 2 years (I'm not from the US) and I just want to go back and see my parents with a clear plan, and a stress free mind. But NO! i have to wait till the last minute to find out where I'll be going next august. I say F*#k that. These Med schools know that we are a desperate group, and they treat us like S*&t. Sorry for this rant, but im just frustrated with all this waiting.

Whoa guys, relax.... first of all, yes, Turtle, I think that the people being accepted are qualified but maybe not as overtly as someone without ties. I don't think admissions standards are relaxed for anyone - think about the headache and loss of reputation there would be for the institution to push through an unqualified candidate. I think instead it works out that if there isn't necessarily anything bad about someone with ties, they'll take them over a candidate without them.

And Shambohh, believe me I understand the boat you're in -- though it probably isn't as rough for me as I am home! But I really don't think the admissions staff at any of these schools (including P&S) are malicious. It's in their best interest to fill positions as quickly as they open up so that they have a guaranteed class size, and I do think they move on an acceptance offer as soon as spots are available. It's just that people (like me 🙄 ) are all holding onto multiple acceptances until they have all the information at hand needed to make a decision. Stuff like finaid which I still dont have from some schools. Every interview I went to stressed the school's desire to have a real acceptance or decline from everyone ASAP.

In Dr. Frantz's case, he has to walk a fine line. He's got a full class of acceptances in hand right now, but what if, come May 15th, he gets 100 declines handed to him? Stranger things have happened. By remaining optimistic with his alternates, he ensures that they don't all walk and that he can still meet his quota. He knows that some of the alternates would decline acceptance to attend other schools, so the list has got to be bigger than the number of positions available. While it's true that any of us might be in the bottom 1/3 of the (unranked) waitlist, it is a finite length, and you're on the list because there is always that real possibility of you being made an offer. I personally think that after years of dealing with neurotic alternates, he really does understand our mentality He offers a glimmer of hope because there really is one... but remember... it's just a glimmer. 🙂

Best of luck to all of you (and me!) with it.

 

[JAMESdoe3]

I agree that If you want to stay on the P&S waitlist, I think that you should be committed to it. It seems from previous years that the wait is only going to get worst...

Thanks for the info JAMESdoe3. Great to hear that your second interview went well. Did you request for one? (I still haven't heard if I will be offered one) If Dean Frantz has to accept some students because of ties to the university, I'm surprised he didn't just accept them in the first round.

I assume that Dean Frantz waitlisted the same number of people this year so I agree it is odd how this thread is so quiet this year. Maybe other waitlisters decided to go elsewhere...or the other people that wanted to get in, got in already...

yea i just called and requested. he was very good about getting back to me.

 

[riddlemethis]

If you are gonne hold out for Columbia, be prepared to commit for the long haul. Take a look at the '04 or '03 waitlist threads...nightmare.

Since this forum hasn't really moved I thought I would try to inject a little life into it: met with Frantz last week for second interview (I called it in in March), and it was a surprisingly enjoyable conversational interview. At the end he gave me his trademark "each year we overaccept..." shpiel, and then went on to tell me he was optimistic about this year, and then quickly retracted/qualified his statement. I don't mean to arouse false hopes or suspicion, I'm just telling you what happened. He also said that there were a number of students who he would probably have to accept off the waitlist because of ties to the university.

Overall he was a great guy to have met, and I actually left the interview feeling good about my chances, even though I don't have any connection to Columbia

Hope this helps get things moving on the thread. Please post, not PM. The fact that this isn't one of the most active threads already is little strange, and I can't believe its all the way back on page 3.

James - congrats on the second interview! 👍 👍 I just got an email from Dr. Frantz's secretary about a second interview next week. I wrote a LOI two days after my waitlist letter came, and sent two short followup emails throughtout April.

Was the second interview conducted in a formal or informal setting? I can't stand wearing business suits and uncomfortable shoes! Did he throw any tough questions at you?

 

[pjm]

Just to back up jamesdoe3 - I had a very similar interview with Dr. Frantz in early June and got an acceptance a few weeks later. He's a straight shooter and truly enjoys talking to prospective students. He really loves to admit them, but there are only so many slots.

riddlemethis - yes, I wore a suit & tie. Frankly, I enjoy interviewing in a suit as it makes me feel a bit more professional. It's not clear to me if Dr. Frantz would have cared, but I did.

shambohh - I totally understand your frustration; I was really, really unhappy during the Jan-Jun timeframe because I had no idea where I was going. Even though my "other" school started Aug 1, I made no lease or plans by June 16 because I was hoping so badly to go to P&S. I also really hated the medical schools because I couldn't get a clear idea what my chances were.

The fact is that the system sucks because everyone has a *lot* of flexibility in choosing where you go. In many cases, the schools have no idea how many people they will need. Even a ranked waitlist doesn't help, because you don't know if a whole bunch of people will bail at the last minute, or none at all. Small sample sizes (n~150 in P&S's case) lead to unpredictable results.

A "better" system would either A) reduce the amount of time schools have to consider students, which would lead to less interviews and less deliberation, or B) force people to commit in advance to which schools they would go to in rank order -- a "match" system.

The system we have, C) no one commits, everyone can jump around until the day before school starts, allows really cool miracles to happen at the expense of your sanity.

 

[OntheRoof55]

how many ppl do you think are on the waitlist this year?

 

[DrDarwin]

Does everyone who has been granted a 2nd interview live in the NYC area?

 

[riddlemethis]

i really don't know how these second interviews work. but i think anyone has a chance at it as long as they're truly sincere in wanting to speak with dr. frantz.

 

[DrDarwin]

Yeah, I don't know either. It seems that some people have requested 2nd interviews and some have been invited for a 2nd interview without requesting anything. I was just wondering if people being called back are in the NYC area since they can interview more easily and cheaply.

 

[JAMESdoe3]

Looks like one more got in off the waitlist

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=196923

 

[SarahGM]

I'll tell you what I know, as a current P&S student: Columbia is NOT on probation. The LCME presented P&S with a few issues with which they thought there was room for improvement... and many of the issues don't have anything to do with a present situation, but have more to do with addressing the situation in the future. For instance, when listing this concern, the LCME wasn't saying that Columbia isn't diverse enough. They asked, "What are you doing to MAINTAIN student diversity in the years to come?" They wanted a more concrete plan than the one they were given.

What is this COLUMBIA ON PROBATION deal? It's certainly caused me to have second thoughts about the whole process. I don't want to have to say that my alma mater wasn't accredited when I received my degree. Any other thoughts?

Even w/o considering the location, P&S was one of the least diverse schools I visited. Still, that can't be enough to deserve probation. There have to be other reasons for the probation as well. Does anyone know them? Undoubtedly this has something to do with Columbia's drop to 10th in USNews - the biggest drop for a top tier school.

Let me know what you guys think.

"columbia definitely does NOT have the most interesting and diverse student body. they are on probation (LCME accreditation) and one of the reasons for this probation is LACK OF DIVERSITY. i couldn't understand how this could be true until i visited two days ago for the revisit. totally a frat-boy/country club kind of atmosphere (which was also the sense i got during interviews). it *is* completely ivy like everyone talks about."

 

[eriol]

Looks like one more got in off the waitlist

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=196923

Yeah I saw that too. I wonder what kind of movement is going on? Dr. Frantz has been very hush-hush with the whole thing, apparently moreso than previous years. I guess I can kind of understand. I was told that he could only give me an estimate of my chances if I hadn't already heard from him by the 15th, but I feel like there's stuff going on now and he just refuses to talk about it...

 

[OntheRoof55]

just got off the phone with Dr Frantz...he was very nice but gave the same old rehersed speech 🙁...has anyone gotten any concrete comments from him so far?

 

[bubblebutt]

I also heard from people that came back from second look weekend that the group that visited was not very diverse and that there were lots of frat boys there...People probably shouldn't complain that they are just finding out that Columbia accepts mostly Ivy students if they had looked into the school beforehand. Just look at the student handbook they gave us on interview day and you'll find under the student pictures are mostly Ivy names.

Still no word from Dean Frantz on my part...

 

[sven]

I also heard from people that came back from second look weekend that the group that visited was not very diverse and that there were lots of frat boys there...People probably shouldn't complain that they are just finding out that Columbia accepts mostly Ivy students if they had looked into the school beforehand. Just look at the student handbook they gave us on interview day and you'll find under the student pictures are mostly Ivy names.

Still no word from Dean Frantz on my part...

Two quick points:

(1) Ivy schools have many different types of people. The mere fact that P&S accepts a lot of Ivy kids does not mean that the class is going to be monolithic. Why do people always insist on taking their views of Ivy kids from Skull and Bones type movies?

(2) Since I wasn't accepted I have no idea what types of people were at the second look, but Ivy schools have a much less prominent greek scene than many other schools. So, the ivy leaguer - frat boy connection seems a bit strange to me. Granted, we all know that Dean Frantz likes rugby players, but this general stereotyping of Columbia's population contradicts what i've personally observed.

 

[bubblebutt]

Two quick points:

(1) Ivy schools have many different types of people. The mere fact that P&S accepts a lot of Ivy kids does not mean that the class is going to be monolithic. Why do people always insist on taking their views of Ivy kids from Skull and Bones type movies?

(2) Since I wasn't accepted I have no idea what types of people were at the second look, but Ivy schools have a much less prominent greek scene than many other schools. So, the ivy leaguer - frat boy connection seems a bit strange to me. Granted, we all know that Dean Frantz likes rugby players, but this general stereotyping of Columbia's population contradicts what i've personally observed.

Let me clarify...I was not saying that P&S is not diverse because it accepts mostly Ivy students (but maybe this is what others were implying?). I just wanted to point out that people should have expected most of the accepted kids to be from Ivies since that was the trend from previous years. I think people thought P&S was not very diverse because of the frat boy-like population there. You don't have to be in an actual frat to act like a frat-boy.

 

[missbonnie]

Let me clarify...I was not saying that P&S is not diverse because it accepts mostly Ivy students (but maybe this is what others were implying?). I just wanted to point out that people should have expected most of the accepted kids to be from Ivies since that was the trend from previous years. I think people thought P&S was not very diverse because of the frat boy-like population there. You don't have to be in an actual frat to act like a frat-boy.

hmm im not so sure what u are talking about. sure, we have some of those types, but def not in the majority...


as for the ivy thing - we just happen to publish our students alma maters..if other top schools did the same thing, it would be just as pervasive, if not more...

bonnie

 

[eriol]

b u m p
less than a week to the 15th

 

[chlorineK]

Hey guys,

I just wanted to let you know that I got a call from Dr. Frantz about an hour ago, and GOT OFF THE WAIT LIST! YAHOO!

Anyway, so there is a god and there is hope and all that jazz.

Best of luck! 🙂

 

[elicash]

Hey guys,

I just wanted to let you know that I got a call from Dr. Frantz about an hour ago, and GOT OFF THE WAIT LIST! YAHOO!

Anyway, so there is a god and there is hope and all that jazz.

Best of luck! 🙂

Big-time congrats!

but can you answer the all-important questions-- did you write a letter of intent or interest; do a second interview, etc.?

Again, congrats! hope you have a great celebration tonight.

 

[chlorineK]

Big-time congrats!

but can you answer the all-important questions-- did you write a letter of intent or interest; do a second interview, etc.?

Again, congrats! hope you have a great celebration tonight.[/QUOT

Sorry!

I interviewed with Dr. Frantz the first time. No 2nd interview.
I wrote an loi before I found out I was waitlisted, and wrote a little note last week saying that I am still interested.
I was a Columbia undergrad, harvard post bacc, high GPA, low MCAT

Good luck all. Columbia rocks!

 

[Ranger47]

I'm next, I can feel it

 

[eriol]

I'm next, I can feel it

Not if I am 😉 But congrats, ChlorineK, and good luck to everyone, I hope you all want it as badly as I do...

 

[ssk123]

Big-time congrats!

but can you answer the all-important questions-- did you write a letter of intent or interest; do a second interview, etc.?

Again, congrats! hope you have a great celebration tonight.[/QUOT

Sorry!

I interviewed with Dr. Frantz the first time. No 2nd interview.
I wrote an loi before I found out I was waitlisted, and wrote a little note last week saying that I am still interested.
I was a Columbia undergrad, harvard post bacc, high GPA, low MCAT

Good luck all. Columbia rocks!

I got a call from the Dean too today! I'm off the waitlist! Columbia was the 2nd school I interviewed at, and it was my first choice from the beginning. I've gone through a lot of interviews, waitlists, and waiting for this moment! Very surprised but incredibly happy.

It's finally over!
Here some info:
Columbia undergrad, out of school for 3 years.
Did not interview with Dean Frantz the first time. Did not do 2nd interview. Sent a letter of intent about 3-4 weeks after I got the waitlist letter. Sent another groveling e-mail late last week.

When he called, he mentioned the two correspondences I sent him, so I know they're a significant factor. Go all out on the letters - it can't hurt!

 

[aprilshyla]

bizarre, i posted in here yesterday but its gone...im going to blame a sucky connection...

i got the call Wednesday, but I missed it. I called him back this morning and I'm in too. Here's the rundown:
duke undergrad --> in senior year,
did not interview with frantz,
lower mcats and gpa than columbia average,
one loi right after my interview,
one letter right before march decicision,
one letter with my waitlist reply,
one letter last month with the paper i second authored,
one phone call last week,
no second interview.

there seems really to be a ton of movement this year compared to last....don't give up hope!

 

[jjmack]

bizarre, i posted in here yesterday but its gone...im going to blame a sucky connection...

i got the call Wednesday, but I missed it. I called him back this morning and I'm in too. Here's the rundown:
duke undergrad --> in senior year,
did not interview with frantz,
lower mcats and gpa than columbia average,
one loi right after my interview,
one letter right before march decicision,
one letter with my waitlist reply,
one letter last month with the paper i second authored,
one phone call last week,
no second interview.

there seems really to be a ton of movement this year compared to last....don't give up hope!

This is probably due to being on AMCAS for the first time so people could just click a box to apply. good luck everyone.

 

[nduttons]

Today being May 16th, has anyone seen any movement?

 

[ead]

Today being May 16th, has anyone seen any movement?

I got in this morning!

 

[elicash]

I got in this morning!

hey, congrats!

do you mind, for us hopefull applicants, giving some info:
did you write a letter of intent, second interview, how many communications, etc.? THANKS!

again, way to go on the acceptance. that must feel great so soon after May 15.

 

[OntheRoof55]

got the call this morning as well!!!!!!!!!

I'm from the University of South Flordia, interviewed in mid February, send 3 letters..one just last week which Dr Frantz referred to in the call, also had my advanced organic professor write me a recommendation at the beginning of April!!

 

[ead]

got the call this morning as well!!!!!!!!!

I'm from the University of South Flordia, interviewed in mid February, send 3 letters..one just last week which Dr Frantz referred to in the call, also had my advanced organic professor write me a recommendation at the beginning of April!!

Hi. I interviewed 1/6/05. Letter: Long letter of interest which included my reasons for wanting to attend and the reasons why i am a good fit (Feb 15); short letter of intent reaffirming my interest (March 15); update letter informing them of another paper I'm publishing (April 15); one last ditch very short but sweet letter of intent (May 10).
I didn't ever speak to Dean Frantz on the phone. I got one handwritten "we're keeing you in mind" note in repsonse to my April 15 letter.
Good luck to all!

 

[MaKiaveli]

Found out today I got off the waitlist. I had a 2nd interview, sent in about 4 letters since the waitlist letter in early march, and called Dr. F twice to express my interest (said I would come to Columbia if accepted). He said that while the class remained overaccepted at the moment, that he was optimistic that future waitlist movement would be soon to come. Good luck and PM me if u need further info...

- MK

 

[mcnugz]

Found out today I got off the waitlist. I had a 2nd interview, sent in about 4 letters since the waitlist letter in early march, and called Dr. F twice to express my interest (said I would come to Columbia if accepted). He said that while the class remained overaccepted at the moment, that he was optimistic that future waitlist movement would be soon to come. Good luck and PM me if u need further info...

- MK

hey all...i've been following along with this thread for a while now and have a very similar story to MK...found out yesterday that i got in off the waitlist!...i interviewed in early december...did not interview with Dean Frantz, nor did i get a second interview...wrote a letter of intent before getting waitlisted...have written three letters since then and also called Dean Frantz twice...the most recent time I called to see if I could get an idea of where I was on the waitlist and he ended up offering me an acceptance!...he also said the same thing to me re: overaccepted at the moment, but expecting more withdrawals in the near future...good luck everyone!