DMU-COM Discussion Thread 2010-2011

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I have a few questions for y'all. 😍

1) On the budget sheet, the total COA is ~$61,000. If the two fixed expenses are tuition ($38,000) and heath insurance ($2,000), does it really cost $21,000 to live in Des Moines and cover the miscellaneous stuff? (Eg. If you choose to live in those houses next to the school, I think you can get away without a car and save around $3000...)

While I was there, I asked a lot of people (locals and students) about the cost of living there and the overwhelming response is that it is dirt cheap (but this is relative to where you moved from).

Examples:

A downtown studio (in downtown DM) was quoted at ~$350/mo or a 1 bedroom ~$500/mo. This is insanely cheap. One of the student ambassadors was paying $750 for a 3 bedroom 4 bath townhouse. Once again... CHEAP!

So, to answer your question, yes, you can live on 10k a year if you really want to. If you get a roommate, you could probably live on less.

I think they inflate some of these values to help students with families and SO's out.

I think these estimates may be a bit exaggerated so you can get the maximum amount of loans if needed. But, that's just my guess.

What would be actually costs for an average student? Could you get by on $10,000? What if you were to live frugally? :scared:

2) Do you need a car for 3rd year and 4th year? Can you just live close by the hospital in your clinical years?

This sounds like a yes. You will most likely need a car to drive between rotation sites.

What about during the 4th year? Is it hectic to go to different locations every 3-4 weeks? Can you end up paying rent potentially for 2 places?

At every school I've been to, they all say some sites cover your living expenses and others don't, so technically, you could get caught up paying rent on 2 different places.

One thing to keep in mind though, is if you do take out a smaller amount that the total COA, you could always request more money if you find that you really need it, up to the total COA.

3) Doing rotations at international sites: I have noticed a lot of schools not just DMU offer this option. How does the school insure that you receive good instruction/training at these sites? Or is it mostly up to the student on what you want to get out of the learning experience?

Someone else will need to answer this, because I have no idea.

I do know that the dean said he only likes to have a few different international locations you can travel to so that you can make a real impact in that location. This way you're not just showing up for 2 weeks, providing meds/treatment, then bailing. Rather these ~3 sites would have a steady stream of students that could provide needed services to the locals and actually work to improve their overall health, so it's beneficial to them as well as to the students. (I thought this was a great point.)

4) Do you get time off between 2nd and 3rd year to study for the board exam?

I recall them saying that you get a little bit of time and you could take one of your elective months to study for it if you want (but I might be mixing that up with another program...). I think someone else could probably provide more specifics. But what I do know is that their pass rate is awesome and their averages are great. So, whatever they do there it works.
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I agree. This way if something happens to your pc, you walk right into IT and walk out with a loaner until yours is fixed. I'm sure they can also easily remove your hard drive and place it into the loaner (which will be the identical PC), so you will have everything you had on your previous PC, assuming it wasn't your hard drive that crashed.

I also agree that you are paying for it. I've learned that nothing in life is free, but it is nice that they build it into your tuition. I have also heard that you don't get the Itouch or whatever the hand held device is.

From what I understand, you don't get the iTouch till like November (or something) of your second year.
 

Wow those prices for rent sounds awesome. Especially comparing from San Diego, CA rent prices. The estimated was $61,000 I'm planning to hopefully loan $10000 less. I really want to minimize my debt as much as I can.
 
i know it's been said that this interview is nothing to worry about...but i'm semi nervous for mine next week.
 
i know it's been said that this interview is nothing to worry about...but i'm semi nervous for mine next week.

I was very confident the whole time but got really nervous the day before since DMU is my top choice school and it's also my first interview. But the interview and the whole tour/lunch before that was maybe meant to calm you down. Everyone was really friendly and welcoming. They tried to keep a low stress environment. It's still good to be a little nervous so you can be more aware of what you say and how you behave during the interview
 
I spoke to Ms. Shelton, she said I'm finally complete here! I wonder how long the process is going to be from here. DMU and NYCOM are my top choices. :scared:
 
Wow those prices for rent sounds awesome. Especially comparing from San Diego, CA rent prices. The estimated was $61,000 I'm planning to hopefully loan $10000 less. I really want to minimize my debt as much as I can.

lol, don't even get me started on Westwood's insane rent prices..My friend paid $1800/month for an apartment (one bedroom, one bathroom) and it doesn't even include utilities..plus he needs to pay $100 extra per month for a parking spot..😱
 
Got an interview invite today...

The open interview days are this Thurs and Friday, and January! Obviously flights are expensive with only 3 days notice. How crucial do you guys think it is to get an earlier interview?

Also, I sort of procrastinated on the doctor LOR 😳 (this is one of those "fastrack invites"). It's gonna be tricky for me to get one before Thursday. Think there's any chance of admissions letting me submit the LOR post-interview if I go this week?


It wouldn't hurt to call and ask. Also, flights are expensive to Des Moines even if you plan ahead, so it might not go up all that much, but you never know.

I think you will be in a much much better spot if you interview this week over January. I believe DMU fills their class pretty quickly. If I were you, I would try to take one of them this Thursday or Friday.
 
I agree that flights to Des Moines are just expensive all the time. I kept checking on prices for quite a while before my interview and just finally decided to make the 11hr drive.

So if you have to fly, might as well go sooner.
 
Got an interview invite today...

The open interview days are this Thurs and Friday, and January! Obviously flights are expensive with only 3 days notice. How crucial do you guys think it is to get an earlier interview?

Also, I sort of procrastinated on the doctor LOR 😳 (this is one of those "fastrack invites"). It's gonna be tricky for me to get one before Thursday. Think there's any chance of admissions letting me submit the LOR post-interview if I go this week?

I just got the call to interview this Thursday and was able get a flight for under $300 and I am coming all the way from Seattle.
 
Got an interview invite today...

The open interview days are this Thurs and Friday, and January! Obviously flights are expensive with only 3 days notice. How crucial do you guys think it is to get an earlier interview?

Also, I sort of procrastinated on the doctor LOR 😳 (this is one of those "fastrack invites"). It's gonna be tricky for me to get one before Thursday. Think there's any chance of admissions letting me submit the LOR post-interview if I go this week?
Definitely take an interview this week if you can!
 
Wow, I can't believe they have interviews open for this week.

For those of you that were recently contacted for interviews, would you mind sharing your stats and when you submitted your apps to DMU?
 
Wow, I can't believe they have interviews open for this week.

For those of you that were recently contacted for interviews, would you mind sharing your stats and when you submitted your apps to DMU?


This is probably a result of people canceling interviews. You can always call and have your date changed if you want. They say they allow one interview date change.
 
I received an interview invite today!!! I was complete on 9/20 But I'm a little confused, each time I pick my desired date, nothing happens and I receive no confirmation. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong...
 
Nevermind, I solved the problem, I'm in the same situation Fitzgerald. It's either go this Thursday and do another interview on Friday at Ohio or wait until January hmm...
 
QUICK! My interview is Thursday and I noticed in the Interview Feedback section that some of the interviews were group interviews (back in 2008)! Has anyone had a group interview yet??
 
QUICK! My interview is Thursday and I noticed in the Interview Feedback section that some of the interviews were group interviews (back in 2008)! Has anyone had a group interview yet??

I don't know anyone who has had a group interview. They are usually a
panel with 2 or 3 people interviewing you.
 
I don't know anyone who has had a group interview. They are usually a
panel with 2 or 3 people interviewing you.

Last week I had 1 science faculty, 1 clinical faculty, and 2 medical students. This seemed to be the setup for everyone else. No group interviews (with multiple interviewees).
 
QUICK! My interview is Thursday and I noticed in the Interview Feedback section that some of the interviews were group interviews (back in 2008)! Has anyone had a group interview yet??

During the interview you will go into a room with three people. Usually you meet with a clinician, a professor, and a current student. They are all super nice and friendly. In the morning you will get a packet of information which will include who you are interviewing with and what time. Ask the current students about your interviewers, they are all really nice. There are also student ambassadors who sit with the interviewees before there interview to help calm your nerves. It's an awesome experience. Good Luck. 😀
 
QUICK! My interview is Thursday and I noticed in the Interview Feedback section that some of the interviews were group interviews (back in 2008)! Has anyone had a group interview yet??

I think the feedback forum needs to reword that question because there really are three types of interviews, group, 1 on 1, and "panel", in my opinion.
 
Anyone interviewing on Nov. 15th? I'm planning on taking a cab the morning of the 15th to campus from the airport area and was wondering if anyone wanted to share a cab. Small savings I know, but everything counts in my book.

Assmosis, I was complete on 9/13 I got an interview on 10/14 with a 3.1GPA and 28 MCAT.
 
Anyone interviewing on Nov. 15th? I'm planning on taking a cab the morning of the 15th to campus from the airport area and was wondering if anyone wanted to share a cab. Small savings I know, but everything counts in my book.

Where are you staying? You should check to see if they have a shuttle. I stayed at the Heartland Inn right across from the airport and they had a free shuttle.
 
Where are you staying? You should check to see if they have a shuttle. I stayed at the Heartland Inn right across from the airport and they had a free shuttle.



So does the downtown Marriott. It's a nice hotel and cheap with the dmu rate. They also give you a shuttle to the school and back for ten bucks.
 
Accepted 10/08 via email. Interviewed 9/23.
Cali resident, ~3.7 GPA, 31 MCAT

Congrats to fellow acceptees and good luck to everyone else!
 
So does the downtown Marriott. It's a nice hotel and cheap with the dmu rate. They also give you a shuttle to the school and back for ten bucks.

I second that. The Marriott was quite nice, and the room was amazing. The best part is they take $100 off the cost of the room for you. And, if there are several of you staying at the hotel, it is $10 for the shuttle total. They also have a free airport shuttle.

Hey Moose, for the longest time I thought your screen name picture was a hippo, but I just realized that it is a puppy swimming...Haha.
 
Hey, just a friendly reminder that I dropped my interview date this week; so it has been free for the pickings 😉
 
I second that. The Marriott was quite nice, and the room was amazing. The best part is they take $100 off the cost of the room for you. And, if there are several of you staying at the hotel, it is $10 for the shuttle total. They also have a free airport shuttle.

Hey Moose, for the longest time I thought your screen name picture was a hippo, but I just realized that it is a puppy swimming...Haha.

Haha. Yeah, it looks a lot better full size, but if you really look at it you can see it in all it's glory. Gotta love bulldogs... especially swimming bulldogs.
 
What time did y'alls interview end? I just got an interview invite and was thinking about driving in from a neighboring airport to save money. I want to make sure I'll be able to make it back in time for the flight back home. THANKS IN ADVANCE!

EDIT: I knew I read it somewhere... email said interviews generally end around 3:30pm.
 
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So does the downtown Marriott. It's a nice hotel and cheap with the dmu rate. They also give you a shuttle to the school and back for ten bucks.

Sadly I am staying at the Fairfield Inn Marriott near the airport, wonder if they have a shuttle system as well. The room was a gift so I can't complain. Except for the potential lack of shuttle.

Hopefully they'll decide on my status before their Thanksgiving break (10 days post interview). We'll see. Good luck to everyone else interviewing.
 
I'm new to SDN, but I also interviewed 10/7 and was accepted today! 3.9 GPA, 26 Q mcat. I'm 99% sure that's where I'll be in the fall!
 
Does anyone know where the rotation sites are and at which hospitals? It was briefly mentioned on the interview day and I couldn't find anything about specific sites on their website.
 
Does anyone know where the rotation sites are and at which hospitals? It was briefly mentioned on the interview day and I couldn't find anything about specific sites on their website.

You are right; they don't mention the specific hospitals on their website. What I gathered from the interview day is that the third year locations are typically in Iowa. Therefore, I assume that means Des Moines and Iowa City (and any other major city...if there are any more in Iowa). Then the fourth year rotations are kind of up to us and where we want to do our residencies. They said that they try to help us get rotations in locations we would potentially want to live after med school. They also said that they will set up rotations for us at hospitals where we have connections and that seem reputable. That's all I could find out from the interview day. You could probably call and talk to someone in that area. Hope this helps a little.
 
You are right; they don't mention the specific hospitals on their website. What I gathered from the interview day is that the third year locations are typically in Iowa. Therefore, I assume that means Des Moines and Iowa City (and any other major city...if there are any more in Iowa). Then the fourth year rotations are kind of up to us and where we want to do our residencies. They said that they try to help us get rotations in locations we would potentially want to live after med school. They also said that they will set up rotations for us at hospitals where we have connections and that seem reputable. That's all I could find out from the interview day. You could probably call and talk to someone in that area. Hope this helps a little.

So, I did a little more searching on their website and I found this.

http://www.dmu.edu/departments/academic/internalmedicine/rotation-sites/

It's the rotation sites for internal medicine but I'm sure there is a lot of overlap with other specialties.

Also, if you search for a specific department/specialty they generally have a page with the 3rd year rotation sites for that specialty.
 
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So, I did a little more searching on their website and I found this.

http://www.dmu.edu/departments/academic/internalmedicine/rotation-sites/

It's the rotation sites for internal medicine but I'm sure there is a lot of overlap with other specialties.

Also, if you search for a specific department/specialty they generally have a page with the 3rd year rotation sites for that specialty.

That is actually a really accurate list. The sites in Iowa, Michigan and Ohio change a bit each year, and the number of seats at each location shuffle as well. If you want a rough idea of the rotation sites though, that link is a great place to start. We still don't have a solidified idea of which sites we can choose from or how many spots will be available at each for next year.
 
That is actually a really accurate list. The sites in Iowa, Michigan and Ohio change a bit each year, and the number of seats at each location shuffle as well. If you want a rough idea of the rotation sites though, that link is a great place to start. We still don't have a solidified idea of which sites we can choose from or how many spots will be available at each for next year.

Has anyone spoken with MS 3's/4's who have been involved in these "shuffles" (@ any program)? It makes me uneasy to rely on clinical sites that could place me with inexperienced preceptors, lack of organized rotations, etc. Are these the kinds of bummers that programs keep under the rug?
 
interviewed today and all I can say is AWESOME. It's easy to forget that you don't go there yet, especially with the way they treat you the entire day (including during the interview). First class, DO or MD.
 
interviewed today and all I can say is AWESOME. It's easy to forget that you don't go there yet, especially with the way they treat you the entire day (including during the interview). First class, DO or MD.

I guess I could clarify this statement haha - Everyone you meet wants you to be there and wants you to do well in your interview. Including random students that walk by and simply yell, "Welcome to Des Moines!". Interview is laid back, no ethical questions. First question I was asked was "So.....how is Ohio State going to finish up the football season?" Other than that, everything in the Interview Feedback section is accurate. Don't be nervous - it's a relaxing day.

Facilities are awesome. No other way to put it - apparently some MD programs don't have anything like their Simulation Lab or their Surgery Center. I'd be surprised if ANY medical school has anything much better. Only thing that seems vague is their 4th year rotations..

Interview Day was way beyond my expectation. If I receive an acceptance, this would be a hard school to turn down.
 
Has anyone spoken with MS 3's/4's who have been involved in these "shuffles" (@ any program)? It makes me uneasy to rely on clinical sites that could place me with inexperienced preceptors, lack of organized rotations, etc. Are these the kinds of bummers that programs keep under the rug?

I'll clarify a bit. When I say 'shuffle', I mean that the sites that are available change, but they don't normally change after the students have started rotating there. Each year the hospitals allow a certain number of students to rotate there, and that changes on their end. All of the programs out there are part of a consortium in Michigan and Ohio, and most of them are great quality. The shuffling that happens occurs within this consortium, and is more logistical than anything.

It is inherent that there will be some variation in availability and operations from year to year, but from what I can tell it doesn't affect the student's education most of the time. Among DO schools, DMU's rotation's are one of the most established. I don't think they have much to hide under the rug (as far as I have been able to tell).

Good luck with the interview process everybody! Once you get to the interview the hardest part is over!!
 
Since a few of you have dropped your interview dates I thought I would call and try to reschedule my December interview for earlier.
I just called and they said that all of their dates are full until January and that their list to contact people to fill in those that cancel is "really long". I got put on the list anyway, but looks like I'll have to stick with December ;o) Just FYI for those looking at the schedules and such.

Anyone able to get a flight from the west coast under 300?
 
accepted!

interviewed 10/18

OOS, 3.86sGPA, 28S

good luck everyone!
 
Alternate list :/

Interviewed 10/18

Gotta settle in for the long wait.
 
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