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[muttmanager]

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Can you find the wording if your response? I’m on my phone and doing everything from memory while loading things into my car. I though you said there was redirection?

What's the first question mean?
Cubs said he used Phoebe's guitar on me which we connected to the apartment move. The redirecrion was assu because the write up said ugly naked guy was the target and someone else died

 

[mizchiefmanaged]

I’m in the write up and the move from the chaos is likely the only thing that saved me from a night kill

Move from the chaos?

What they tried to do, failed and killed Mike
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@muttmanager this is what I'm confused about.

 

[Lawpy]

MOD NOTE

Welcome @Melchizedek who is taking over for @Navilly

😕

 

[muttmanager]

Even though mpm rezzed Nav?

Yes. It's not her ability. I thinm she said it was a rewars for answering a question? It would be a smart wolf move to rez him if given the option for village cred

 

[muttmanager]

@muttmanager this is what I'm confused about.

Chaos = racket
I was not implying there is a chaos character

 

[mizchiefmanaged]

Chaos is definitely not the only way redirection can be in play.

Definitely not the only way, but it's the most common way I've seen. Could also be an item, but I haven't heard of any redirection type items so far and no one has claimed using one. Doesn't mean there isn't one, but I still feel like Mutts claiming that she's immune from lynch voting since she was the NK target (according to her) that was redirected is a stretch to me.

 

[dolphin106258]

Definitely not the only way, but it's the most common way I've seen. Could also be an item, but I haven't heard of any redirection type items so far and no one has claimed using one. Doesn't mean there isn't one, but I still feel like Mutts claiming that she's immune from lynch voting since she was the NK target (according to her) that was redirected is a stretch to me.

Wait she’s immune? Are you saying that in a sarcastic she’s still a wolf way? Or a legit thing that was being talked about?

 

[mizchiefmanaged]

What's the first question mean?
Cubs said he used Phoebe's guitar on me which we connected to the apartment move. The redirecrion was assu because the write up said ugly naked guy was the target and someone else died

I hate autocorrect. I wanted to see your response to that person. I'm now on my computer so can actually ISO; found it 🙂.

Still not convinced that it isn't just the mod taking things from the show for the write up. I feel like claiming immunity due to something like that is an easy thing for a wolf to do since it may not necessarily mean anything at all. It seems like a bit of a stretch to me. Leaving my vote where it is for now.

 

[Stagg737]

I could also go for Stagg today based on that flippant comment about not liking the reasoning for the kata lynch,

From the few games I've played with her, she's generally quieter, so the points about her being quiet (which seemed to be popular among those voting for her that day) were NAI to me. She did seem more happy-go-luck than usual and was all over the place, which is why I would have been happy with her lynch anyway.

@Stagg737 curious to know your reads and your thoughts as to why the katana votes weren’t suitable yesterday

Feeling good about you and Miz. MPM/Mutts is an egg that needs to be cracked, and I'd like the Barks/Cubs egg to be cracked at some point. Also have AM and Canthy on my sketch leans side.

Were there really people who voted moose because of surface level engagement? Almost everyone used the flubbery over not using an item as their logic.

Seems like kind of pointless items in a game where there isn't PMing by group. Unless they are earlier than wolf kill in the order of operations, and therefore would help avoid death.

I thought people were upset that when she was taken in the death cab, she was given the name of the person that took her, while other's have not.

There were people who stated the death cab as reasoning, though that wasn't the only reasoning and there were several (weak) reasons given. There was also a lot of sheeping in terms of explanations and I'm inclined to think there was at least one wolf on that vote.

 

[mizchiefmanaged]

Wait she’s immune? Are you saying that in a sarcastic she’s still a wolf way? Or a legit thing that was being talked about?

I mean 'immune' from lynch voting (not actually immune). If I'm understanding correctly Mutts is saying she can't be a wolf since she was allegedly the NK target due to what I feel like is a stretch within a write up. It's an easy claim based on really not much of anything that would keep people from voting her way for a bit.

Does that make any more sense?

 

[Stagg737]

Can we get an updated vote tally?

 

[muttmanager]

I hate autocorrect. I wanted to see your response to that person. I'm now on my computer so can actually ISO; found it 🙂.

Still not convinced that it isn't just the mod taking things from the show for the write up. I feel like claiming immunity due to something like that is an easy thing for a wolf to do since it may not necessarily mean anything at all. It seems like a bit of a stretch to me. Leaving my vote where it is for now.

Where am i claiming immunity? My character is out and I'm vanilla. If you think thats wolfy, cool beans.

 

[mizchiefmanaged]

Where am i claiming immunity? My character is out and I'm vanilla. If you think thats wolfy, cool beans.

I should just stop using the word immunity; it's coming across the wrong way.

By 'immunity' I mean that you're saying that you can't possibly be the wolf because (according to your interpretation of the write up) you were the NK target and should therefor be exempt from lynch voting. Exempt might be a better word!

 

[Stagg737]

D4 Am I doing this right? Lynch Tally

Stagg (1)- Coffee
AM (1)- Cubs
Mutts (3)- AM, Miz, Dolphin
Coffee (1)- Mel
MPM (1)- Mutts

Mutts, you're weeeening

Exactly 8 hours until lynch close

 

[Animal Midwife]

Unofficial Day 4 Lynch Tally
Stagg (1) - Coffee?
AM (1) - cubs
mutts (3) - AM, miz, dolphin
Coffee? (1) - Mel
mpm (1) - mutts

7/13
lynch close in ~8 hours

 

[Lawpy]

I'm thinking but for now

Lynch AM

Something is off with her posts that's coming across as weird for me.

 

[mizchiefmanaged]

I'm thinking but for now

Lynch AM

Something is off with her posts that's coming across as weird for me.

I've given up on ever trying to read her. I leave that to other people

 

[cubsrule4e]

Yes. It's not her ability. I thinm she said it was a rewars for answering a question? It would be a smart wolf move to rez him if given the option for village cred

This is what I asked about last night that got me into with AM, along with her MOOSE lynch. It also depends on if you believe Nav's claim about no Chaos or converts.

 

[cubsrule4e]

I mean 'immune' from lynch voting (not actually immune). If I'm understanding correctly Mutts is saying she can't be a wolf since she was allegedly the NK target due to what I feel like is a stretch within a write up. It's an easy claim based on really not much of anything that would keep people from voting her way for a bit.

Does that make any more sense?

I used the guitar on mutts N1 and the write up basically said there was a "mistaken" kill, meaning dead guy (mutts) was the target but someone else ended up getting killed instead.

 

[Melchizedek]

Wow now I’m going to have to read Mel village....much harder for me to do.

Which is hysterical because you're one of my top wolf suspects off of pure VCA. Somebody feel free to contradict this as I attempt to catch up.

Other top wolf suspect is @acanthuroidei
1. Welcome
2. What made you pick AM on day 2 when you had been voting WITH her on D1.
3. What changed from day 2 to D3 that made you okay voting with AM again for MOOSE?

Will be reading but feel free to tag me if you have questions about Nav's play

Unlynch whoever Nav was lynching
Lynch Dolphin

 

[acanthuroidei]

Which is hysterical because you're one of my top wolf suspects off of pure VCA. Somebody feel free to contradict this as I attempt to catch up.

Other top wolf suspect is @acanthuroidei
1. Welcome
2. What made you pick AM on day 2 when you had been voting WITH her on D1.
3. What changed from day 2 to D3 that made you okay voting with AM again for MOOSE?

Will be reading but feel free to tag me if you have questions about Nav's play

Unlynch whoever Nav was lynching
Lynch Dolphin

Votes were explained on those days.

 

[Lawpy]

Which is hysterical because you're one of my top wolf suspects off of pure VCA. Somebody feel free to contradict this as I attempt to catch up.

Other top wolf suspect is @acanthuroidei
1. Welcome
2. What made you pick AM on day 2 when you had been voting WITH her on D1.
3. What changed from day 2 to D3 that made you okay voting with AM again for MOOSE?

Will be reading but feel free to tag me if you have questions about Nav's play

Unlynch whoever Nav was lynching
Lynch Dolphin

So you raised good points but I just wanted to point out that this is interesting because Navs supposedly took an opposite direction:

Dolphin - feel great about their play thus far, feel good about them being village.

I have feels for dolphin, hence my vote today. While I was reading back on thread, some of her posts just seemed off to me. I didn’t quote them because it was too hard to explain things with that post restriction.

Now I also have feels for mpm. I didn’t like how the end of today’s vote went down and she sounded like a wolf.

Your barking down the wrong tree. Or up the wrong road. Or left the wrong right. Or something like that.

About dolphin, mpm or both? And why?

MPM revived me with no converts in the game. Dolphin is just yeah. I have strong feelings, other people can attest to how I play with that. Take it or leave it

Navs was pretty dismissive towards Skilary regarding her views on petmoosy and dolphin.

Now I know you and Navs are different (and not to mention, Navs apparently changed his stance on Moosy over a day despite being initially insistent on it in D2) and you subbed in for him but I just wanted to point that out.

 

[acanthuroidei]

@mypetmoose

> Talked katashark out of lynching her yesterday.
> Suggested lynching Miranda Senft immediately after night, before Navilly said anything about putting Miranda Senft in the taxi cab.
> In Ross's apartment--someone died there last night. Is there a wolf in there that killed PrincessButterCup/Coopah? Is that what muttmanager was running from? Maybe she is Ross/Ross is a wolf.

@Melchizedek

 

[Melchizedek]

Votes were explained on those days.

I'm not asking about your votes, I'm asking about the evolution of your feelings on AM, because they seem all over the place.

 

[mizchiefmanaged]

@acanthuroidei why did you close the PM? 🙁

 

[acanthuroidei]

> Navilly (when confirmed villager) reported Miranda Senft was put in the cab and survived; not totally clear how Miranda Senft survived.
> Talked about having the "Monica's apron" item that you could send people snacks with, I haven't heard anyone else mention having that artifact or receiving snacks (please let me know if I missed something).
> Didn't show up to vote D2.

@Melchizedek

 

[acanthuroidei]

@acanthuroidei why did you close the PM? 🙁

From the Mod: "This PM is closed!"

 

[mizchiefmanaged]

From the Mod: "This PM is closed!"

Weird

 

[dolphin106258]

Which is hysterical because you're one of my top wolf suspects off of pure VCA. Somebody feel free to contradict this as I attempt to catch up.

Other top wolf suspect is @acanthuroidei
1. Welcome
2. What made you pick AM on day 2 when you had been voting WITH her on D1.
3. What changed from day 2 to D3 that made you okay voting with AM again for MOOSE?

Will be reading but feel free to tag me if you have questions about Nav's play

Unlynch whoever Nav was lynching
Lynch Dolphin

...and I wonder to myself why do I always find Mel sketch...

If you’re talking about my switch to Kata yesterday close to lynch close then okay, I figured I’d get side eye for that. Now I’m sure it’s more side eye since she was a wolf. But you are unfortunately barking up the wrong tree.

 

[dolphin106258]

Which is hysterical because you're one of my top wolf suspects off of pure VCA. Somebody feel free to contradict this as I attempt to catch up.

Other top wolf suspect is @acanthuroidei
1. Welcome
2. What made you pick AM on day 2 when you had been voting WITH her on D1.
3. What changed from day 2 to D3 that made you okay voting with AM again for MOOSE?

Will be reading but feel free to tag me if you have questions about Nav's play

Unlynch whoever Nav was lynching
Lynch Dolphin

Also just as a fun little note my votes on D2 and D3 were with Nav (technically you) so is it more my D1 vote that bothers you??

 

[dolphin106258]

I used the guitar on mutts N1 and the write up basically said there was a "mistaken" kill, meaning dead guy (mutts) was the target but someone else ended up getting killed instead.

 

[mizchiefmanaged]

@Lawper and @cubsrule4e can you explain the AM things that you’re reading as sketchy? Will ISO her.

 

[acanthuroidei]

Weird

Agreed.

 

[muttmanager]

This is what I asked about last night that got me into with AM, along with her MOOSE lynch. It also depends on if you believe Nav's claim about no Chaos or converts.

As the prime convert target, no I don't 100% believe him but am wasn't looking to convert hunt. I'm thinking mpm as an original

 

[acanthuroidei]

I'm not asking about your votes, I'm asking about the evolution of your feelings on AM, because they seem all over the place.

No evolution. I only get one lynch vote a day, so I can't vote for everyone I think might be a wolf that day.

 

[Melchizedek]

So you raised good points but I just wanted to point out that this is interesting because Navs supposedly took an opposite direction:







Navs was pretty dismissive towards Skilary regarding her views on petmoosy and dolphin.

Now I know you and Navs are different (and not to mention, Navs apparently changed his stance on Moosy over a day despite being initially insistent on it in D2) and you subbed in for him but I just wanted to point that out.

Unless I'm missing some blatant thing in my role PM (because lets be real I don't pay attention to them all that much) I have no idea why Navs took that stance on dolphin. I even asked the mods if they had forgotten to put me into any extra PM's Nav had going in the past and were deactivated.

No evolution. I only get one lynch vote a day, so I can't vote for everyone I think might be a wolf that day.

So you're saying that you found AM wolfy but still chose to vote on the same person that she was voting for?

Also just as a fun little note my votes on D2 and D3 were with Nav (technically you) so is it more my D1 vote that bothers you??

So let me see if I understand, you want me to give you village cred because you voted with me for a successful village lynch and an unsuccessful wolf lynch? I don't think you know how to play this game 😛
Thats a little pockety haha

also this interaction early in the game has set my teeth on edge:

What’s your voting reasoning? Since we’re all asking these days

As a welcome wagon.

Welcoming indeed.

.....
I don't see much reason that this interaction even happened. Where's the follow-up? Where's the outrage that AM is being hypocritical? It falls short of actually being wolf-hunting/meaningful posts to have on thread

 

[Stagg737]

No evolution. I only get one lynch vote a day, so I can't vote for everyone I think might be a wolf that day.

How do you feel about AM now?

@Animal Midwife , how do you feel about Acanth?

 

[acanthuroidei]

So you're saying that you found AM wolfy but still chose to vote on the same person that she was voting for?

Yes, that is exactly what I'm saying.

 

[acanthuroidei]

How do you feel about AM now?

@Animal Midwife , how do you feel about Acanth?

Lynch Animal Midwife

 

[Melchizedek]

lynch MsP

I'm thinking theres a wolf between cubs/MsP

This was a pretty strong statement to make early game and then you followed it up by lynching me/navs the next day
what changed your mind about cubs from D1 to D2?

ETA: Your lynching Me/Navs was alongside Cubs, so I'm confused what changed your read.

 

[dolphin106258]

Unless I'm missing some blatant thing in my role PM (because lets be real I don't pay attention to them all that much) I have no idea why Navs took that stance on dolphin. I even asked the mods if they had forgotten to put me into any extra PM's Nav had going in the past and were deactivated.


So you're saying that you found AM wolfy but still chose to vote on the same person that she was voting for?


So let me see if I understand, you want me to give you village cred because you voted with me for a successful village lynch and an unsuccessful wolf lynch? I don't think you know how to play this game 😛
Thats a little pockety haha

also this interaction early in the game has set my teeth on edge:



.....
I don't see much reason that this interaction even happened. Where's the follow-up? Where's the outrage that AM is being hypocritical? It falls short of actually being wolf-hunting/meaningful posts to have on thread

Wow that’s what’s bothering you, I was actually giving you too much credit apparently. I didn’t have to respond in a certain way. What does that get you with AM? A card that says good for you, you called out AM you must be village???

And I don’t think being on villagers is what VCA is really supposed to be used for I was just pointing out our similar voting pattern on those two days..

 

[Melchizedek]

Wow that’s what’s bothering you, I was actually giving you too much credit apparently. I didn’t have to respond in a certain way. What does that get you with AM? A card that says good for you, you called out AM you must be village???

And I don’t think being on villagers is what VCA is really supposed to be used for I was just pointing out our similar voting pattern on those two days..

Don't be reductionist, I already said that I was wolf reading you because of VCA, now as I'm reading, I'm trying to pulling out and analyze things that are either reinforcing or negating that read so that I can get your response and other people's thoughts on them if they haven't already been brought up.

 

[Animal Midwife]

How do you feel about AM now?

@Animal Midwife , how do you feel about Acanth?

Slightly wolfy with how they've been handling me.

 

[muttmanager]

This was a pretty strong statement to make early game and then you followed it up by lynching me/navs the next day
what changed your mind about cubs from D1 to D2?

ETA: Your lynching Me/Navs was alongside Cubs, so I'm confused what changed your read.

He used an item on me that I believe is what saved me from being NK'd.

 

[mypetmoose]

Mutts I'm on my phone right now, but I will come back later (hopefully before close) to deal with any questions you may have. For what it's worth, I dont see the mutts wagon as being good. I have mutts as pure village bc of the n1 fiasco. I think everyone should try something else.

I feel okay about cubby.
Barky is slight wolfy in my book.
I think I'll go coffee today...

***Lynch Coffee***

Especially assuming there are no converts. Mel, can you agree to what nav said on this? Today will be a feels vote day since I'm spending time with family. I cant rightnow since I'm on my phone but someone should find out who pointed out mutts was attacked. They are probably on the same side...

 

[Melchizedek]

But it could also be true. What wolf wants to attract attention day 1? Better to lay low, post a little, vote away from the main wagons. Right, @dolphin106258 ?

*chuckle*
Its the cheek in posts like these I look at and go "Yupp thats village genny"
and she made a fair point.

Sorry... I forgot this game was starting. Looks like I missed lynch close and it ended in a 3 or 4 way tie?

Dammit, we talked about this Skilary 😛

Contingency lynch Dolphin

I am really triggered that two people who had been calling out Dolphin died back to back.
Yes, wolves could be trying to set Dolphin up, but I am not convinced thats whats going on right now.

Dear colleague,

Thank you for the inquiry into you patient, Moose (Client: Miranda Senft). Please note that it was implied those riding in the cab would die, and she somehow survived this incident. I believe we should continue investigations into Moose, but at this time, believe euthanasia is the best course of action for now. In the meantime, we will continue running diagnostic tests.

Additionally, my pet moose, may also be a good candidate for euthanasia, the prognosis at this time is between fair and poor and we may not have the money to continue with diagnostics.

It was very clear that there was only a chance that the people in the cab would have died or maybe even something else happening. This was a waste of time for village.

Especially assuming there are no converts. Mel, can you agree to what nav said on this? Today will be a feels vote day since I'm spending time with family. I cant rightnow since I'm on my phone but someone should find out who pointed out mutts was attacked. They are probably on the same side...

I don't know what Navs feels on it are but I am reading the beginning of D2 and coffee's encouraging the conversation/confusion around MOOSE maybe having a death avoidance has put her on my radar. Trying to currently figure out if she has elevated her game to the level where she can openly screw with village like that and get away with it, or if it was villager actually trying to parse through new info. Leaning the former at the moment.

 

[Lawpy]

Mutts I'm on my phone right now, but I will come back later (hopefully before close) to deal with any questions you may have. For what it's worth, I dont see the mutts wagon as being good. I have mutts as pure village bc of the n1 fiasco. I think everyone should try something else.

I feel okay about cubby.
Barky is slight wolfy in my book.
I think I'll go coffee today...

***Lynch Coffee***

Especially assuming there are no converts. Mel, can you agree to what nav said on this? Today will be a feels vote day since I'm spending time with family. I cant rightnow since I'm on my phone but someone should find out who pointed out mutts was attacked. They are probably on the same side...

why is petmoosy lynching the coffee?

also help me understand your barky read.

 

[mypetmoose]

why is petmoosy lynching the coffee?

also help me understand your barky read.

Feels on coffee.

Barky is honestly partially bc of lack of content. She is usually more of a vocal/calculated/has strong points, and I'm not seeing what I want to see from her.

 

[Melchizedek]

Okay so @Navilly, I know I'm on your *hit list, but I'm just a little confused about why you literally admitted to accepting to kill someone last night (if I'm understanding the cab correctly) and you are confused why it didnt work, and people aren't upset by that? I'm getting vmh Ireland flashbacks a bit. No "okay moving on" here lol...

@stagg you got screwed by vmh in Ireland too... do you see it, or am I just paranoid?

And also if you thought it would kill the person, why not choose someone who you were suspicious of? Navi, you were sus of me and kata and (msp) bc of the tie you formed, right? Why not kata or I?

Reads so far since people keep asking me. Just got back from work and I iso'd everyone's posts.

Taking a page out of WZ's book from last game on the color coding.

Dolphin – playing for village it seems. Lots of fluff about the source material though.
CoffeeQuestionMark – lots of good discussion. Seems to be playing for village.
Between2ferns – village based on today’s play.
Bark – I typically read your posts as sketchy, so trying to not to do that this time puts you somewhere between village/neutral based on the content of your posts.
Mypetmoose – meh, seems to be playing the villager game.
cubsrule4e – people are jumping on this lynch. I see the post that is apparently “fishing.” I disagree.
Acanthuroidei – noob, 1st game, I can’t read her playstyle yet.
AM – doesn’t seem into it.
Stagg – no posts really other than a random D1 vote, can’t place in either category.
Lawper – some decent posts, a lot of pushing for super early reads
Mischief – could go either way at this point honestly. Lots of posts, but I can’t get a feel.
Nav – annoying post restrictions aren’t typically on a wolf, but could be a wolf that received an item I guess. style seems normal so far. Could be a risk, like skimble said earlier. don't really know why hav wants to lynch mypetmoose. The cab thing is bizarre. Is this a weird vig thing?
Skimble – not much to go off of honestly. but that can be typical ski play. this is only feels based.
Mutt – in the wolfy category. Based off general sense I get from their posts. Don’t know what “outstanding inquiries in message center” is getting at.
Miranda Senft – no posts that mean anything so far. but there have some posts. i have to go reread when people are getting all the moose's mixed up.

I dont like that he tried to kill someone last night

these three posts
JFC
I can't.
Wolfiest -> meh kinda wolfy
MPM, Dolphin, Mutts, Roids

Unlynch Dolphin
Lynch MPM

 

[Lawpy]

these three posts
JFC
I can't.
Wolfiest -> meh kinda wolfy
MPM, Dolphin, Mutts, Roids

Unlynch Dolphin
Lynch MPM

Who's roids? How are you reading Barky? And what are your thoughts on petmoosy rezzing Navs?