FTF's Worst Idea Yet (Game Over)

[PippyPony]

Good game mafia and friends. I only wish I could have absorbed you all into the goo 🖤💜🖤

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[WildZoo]

Oh damn, nicely done paws. You definitely fooled me!

 

[WildZoo]

Also damn @PippyPony you were pretty on target for scumhunting

 

[JustPaws]

Remember that time when wolf!paws brought you (and me) to endgame @Animal Midwife? I'm trying to determine if this feels like that time. It's a little muddied by the sunny redirect.

Those were the lulz

It was terrifying because she killed her only viable scapegoat for the ultimate wifom.

Yes, yes I do. Zenge talked me out of that last night...

 

[Zenge142]

Oh damn, nicely done paws. You definitely fooled me!

Yeah, I was also stumped...

 

[Lawpy]

Wait so we had Town vs Mafia vs Wolves vs 3P goo vs 3P survivor vs 3P survivor vs Village?

 

[WildZoo]

Yes, yes I do. Zenge talked me out of that last night...

But the lulz!!!!

 

[Dr. ForgotToFlush]

Afterword:

Balance was iffy but workable thanks to Zenge's role removing itself. I mentioned this in deadchat: In multiball games, town needs a lot to go right for Town to win, and almost everything did, but the past day phase was the final insurmountable hurdle.
Starting ratio was 8v2v2v1v1v1, very close to the upper limit of what I'd deem acceptable and does skew towards being anti-town, so credit to you guys for making this as competitive as it was.
This game ended incredibly quickly but sometimes IDEA games just do that.

There was a major error with sunshine's role. Since it was compulsive it should have activated Night 1, resulting in something like Sunshine and Chaos dying. However I completely blanked on that and opted for it to activate N2 instead. Since it had profound effects on who died and who lived, I couldn't think of a better way to correct it at the time.

Thanks for playing!
If there's time I'll try to host Countdown for realsies before August, otherwise we'll all have to wait till next year.

~

FTF

 

[PippyPony]

Also damn @PippyPony you were pretty on target for scumhunting

Well, if the target looks like this...

Lets play more games with ~2 villagers vs ~10 baddies

 

[JustPaws]

@Animal Midwife if I hadn't killed you I would have had to vote you faster than you could vote me. Were you obsessively refreshing for the last hour? Would I have been able to beat you to the draw?

 

[PippyPony]

WHOS CHOKING NOW, PIPPY PONY????

Well, animal midwife? Who?

 

[WildZoo]

I'm just gonna claim I was officially joining team mafia and that's why my reads were terrible

 

[JustPaws]

Pippy imagine if you had picked mafia

 

[PippyPony]

@Animal Midwife if I hadn't killed you I would have had to vote you faster than you could vote me. Were you obsessively refreshing for the last hour? Would I have been able to beat you to the draw?

I don't know if a vulpix popsicle could even physically hold a gun. How would it pull the trigger?

 

[Dr. ForgotToFlush]

Pippy imagine if you had picked mafia

Then the game would have been rerolled
The usage of this setup was predicated on the fact that half of these roles were either non-factors, or straight-up die because of themselves

 

[Animal Midwife]

I can't accept the concept of deepwolves. It hurts because I don't want to think of futures where I can't defend them any more, but it's just a reality of life.

 

[Lawpy]

I can't accept the concept of deepwolves. It hurts because I don't want to think of futures where I can't defend them any more, but it's just a reality of life.

Wait where's the deepwolfing??

 

[PippyPony]

Pippy imagine if you had picked mafia

I KNOWWWWWWWW 😭😭😭😭

My confusion over that discarded role was very real lmao

I had literally just told Sunshine she could vote me off this game and I wouldn't do anything to stop her, and I was starting back on an in-person rotation, so I was worried I'd die early and didn't want to doom a packmate to die with me!

 

[Dr. ForgotToFlush]

Oh one more thing
Huuuuuge thank you to both @kaydubs and @Matthew9Thirtyfive for helping with the deadchat
couldn't have done it without them

Ok now I'm going back to bed

 

[WildZoo]

Do I get dead chat even though I didn't die?

 

[Zenge142]

I can't accept the concept of deepwolves. It hurts because I don't want to think of futures where I can't defend them any more, but it's just a reality of life.

What deep wolves?

 

[Animal Midwife]

Well, AM? Who?

It matters not to your wincon, but if April had shot literally anyone on the board but me (seeing as she absolutely wasn't going to target sunshine), the game would still be going today.

So I'm still very sad that happened.

 

[JustPaws]

Huge shout out to @Zenge142 for his support last night in mafia chat. Definitely helped me make it through

 

[PippyPony]

Ok lol

If it's any consolation, I told her I was also sad she died instead of you

 

[Animal Midwife]

What deep wolves?

When Paws was trying to get you in the lead over Vis even before voting there herself. It's what I was thinking about for hours.

 

[JustPaws]

When I skimmed the roll list prior to assignment, I did see the mafia bus driver roll and I thought it would have been ironic if I had gotten it

 

[WildZoo]

When Paws was trying to get you in the lead over Vis even before voting there herself. It's what I was thinking about for hours.

The list keeps getting longer lol

 

[supershorty]

Do I get dead chat even though I didn't die?

I mean, I'm there and not dead DESPITE YOUR CONSTANT EFFORTS TO YEET ME

 

[PippyPony]

Thank you @Dr. ForgotToFlush for very patiently answering my many role name terminology questions in my role PM once this game got going

 

[WildZoo]

I mean, I'm there and not dead DESPITE YOUR CONSTANT EFFORTS TO YEET ME

I'm telling you, it would have won the game

 

[PippyPony]

I'm telling you, it would have won the game

I wish I had picked up on this strategy sooner

I wonder if it would have been a joint win if you were part of the cult 🤔

 

[PippyPony]

When Paws was trying to get you in the lead over Vis even before voting there herself. It's what I was thinking about for hours.

But Zenge was about to become an Ent

I would bus that too. Yeet nature!

 

[Animal Midwife]

@Animal Midwife if I hadn't killed you I would have had to vote you faster than you could vote me. Were you obsessively refreshing for the last hour? Would I have been able to beat you to the draw?

No, I knew it was mechanically over after that. I know you love 3p as much as I do. I'm only sad I never got a lover.

 

[Viscernable]

So the four deaths N1 was due to the 1/13 chance of chaos targeting Bob and Bob dying from the protection 😭

This game was so fun. Love the deeply stupid roles. Some of the ones that made me laugh the hardest were the “odd-day silenced even-day silenced” modifiers 💀

 

[PippyPony]

Why is 'Ent' capitalized? Why did my brain know that Ent is capitalized?

 

[JustPaws]

No, I knew it was mechanically over after that. I know you love 3p as much as I do. I'm only sad I never got a lover.

It really pains me but
paws unkills vis
paws sweetly kills AM

Does this make it any better?

 

[Zenge142]

But Zenge was about to become an Ent

I would bus that too. Yeet nature!

Yeah. I mean. It would have been interesting. Paws busses me. Gets village cred (or maybe not since it would have been an obviously good time to bus) and village wastes a cycle yeeting me. Not sure how yesterday would have played out then.

I had my goal of wanting to become a stump. That was all I wanted.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Okay, just look at this ISO though containing every Zenge mention:

I'm more inclined to worry about the people who rejected village roles like zenge and cray with normalish village roles. What were they lured by?

I feel like zenge just pops in when they are prompted but no more. Anyone else feel like that? Am I off base?

At this point since WZ may close day early I think my biggest feels right now are zenge. April is a vill read as she has been most consistent. I'm going to ignore WZ and vicks for now cuz I can never remember how they work out in numbers but I think it's ok ( I'm not 100% sold on vis claim yet, just not ready to vote there today)

vote zenge

Not one hedge, not one village read.

 

[Viscernable]

I’m peeved that I ignored how much it was scaring me how Paws pushing Z happened when he was already doomed (optimal hard bussing time yay) and how scary her posts D3 were (the way she was simultaneously persuading me so sweetly to vote with her and continuing to throw copious shade on me without seeming like she ever really intended to vote me, as if she didn’t really care about finding mafia and just wanted to stick her vote on someone she could scapegoat). But I let my suspicion of cray’s early play and the fact that it seemed like Z really didn’t want to be yeeted D2 dissuade me, booo.

I was really feeling the freeze and was kind of silently begging AM to decide to yeet me so I didn’t have to choose who I thought was mafia (and since I was still pretty convinced there was a sk and that voting either cray or paws would result in a dissatisfying way for village to lose).

Great job mafia!

 

[JustPaws]

Okay, just look at this ISO though containing every Zenge mention:




Not one hedge, not one village read.

I read april as village

 

[Animal Midwife]

Ultimately though, I need to see deepwolfing sometimes so I can understand WW as a whole better. I also still love the agony of endgame regardless of how it may externally appear. I probably will seriously take up dubz's suggestion though and keep a list because that as relevant meta as any other choice.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Ok lol

If it's any consolation, I told her I was also sad she died instead of you

Naughty 3p get put in the corner...

 

[JustPaws]

I think one of my favorite things that I missed being away was how Pips will completely accept when she's going down and fully troll the thread.10/10 would read again

 

[JustPaws]

Okay, just look at this ISO though containing every Zenge mention:




Not one hedge, not one village read.

But in all seriousness though I knew he was turning into a tree and dying the next day there was just no reason to hedge... cuz then he was a "stump".

 

[Animal Midwife]

I read april as village

That's exactly what I mean! Whiteknighting villagers and suspecting partners!

 

[JustPaws]

persuading me so sweetly to vote with her

I was VERY nervous I would push too hard

 

[Viscernable]

Does this make it any better?

NGL I was wondering if you would decide you were too worried I was some 3p that could somehow prevent a mafia win and would decide to kill me. I forgot that Dubz couldn’t vote though, thought that in that scenario today you would be trying to convince her to win with mafia for the lulz.

 

[Animal Midwife]

I still am perplexed though. Was that a real theory about me intentionally choosing the convert sk, @PippyPony ? You know I hate conversion as a whole.

 

[JustPaws]

That's exactly what I mean! Whiteknighting villagers and suspecting partners!

Would not have mattered because I was going to kill her that night anyway if she hadn't shot herself

 

[JustPaws]

NGL I was wondering if you would decide you were too worried I was some 3p that could somehow prevent a mafia win and would decide to kill me. I forgot that Dubz couldn’t vote though, thought that in that scenario today you would be trying to convince her to win with mafia for the lulz.

Oh I was also terrified about that. AM, WZ, and I also lost as wolves one time when we left the third-party alive