GGoats!! - An aMAAAAAHzing WW thread

[WildZoo]

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Understandable. Alissa showing up and admitting sad villagery defeat combined with literally no resistance to that yeet got me real worried it wasn't a good move (as I explained) and Doggo was one of the two other people I had mentioned was giving strange vibes and so when it started, I figured heck, it's not a good argument but it's better than Alissa

Yeah just not in general a fan of the last minute movement. You had all day to pursue other reads while alissa was not around. Why didn't you try to engage with doggo at all earlier if she was wolfy enough that you'd be willing to have her die in the last few minutes of a cycle without a chance to defend?

I think we've (myself included) gotten very wrapped up in Sun and I need to take a step back and not let the heat of the argument cloud my decision, might take me a minute. Village leans on zenge, shorty, cray, and mkg. Can elaborate if needed. More than a few still in neutrals. Starting to think Sun is a really frustrated villager and I'm not comfortable putting my vote there tonight. When I was catching up, some things that Alissa called me out for seemed intentionally taken out of context, and now I think she's letting Sun dig her own grave. Although I haven't really mentioned it, Barks is giving me weird vibes and it's something I can't really put my finger on, but that's not where I want to put my vote less than an hour before yeet close with such a shaky basis. Some people have mentioned the same about doggo and I need to think about that too.

I think I am most comfortable putting my vote on Alissa tonight unless something big changes.

Yeet Alissa

this was the only thing I saw you mention about her prior

 

[Aprilthearab]

Honestly I have not been a fan of AM repeatedly advertising her inflated self-importance - she often does so but subtly, don't know what's going on this game that she feels the need to make it so known. Didn't like her Alissa push with taking no responsibility after the fact. Didn't like her chatting it up with Cray right at yeet close instead of paying attention to what was happening.

 

[Aprilthearab]

Yeah just not in general a fan of the last minute movement. You had all day to pursue other reads while alissa was not around. Why didn't you try to engage with doggo at all earlier if she was wolfy enough that you'd be willing to have her die in the last few minutes of a cycle without a chance to defend?

this was the only thing I saw you mention about her prior

Working all day, got home, tried to catch up but failed and got roped into a Sun discussion instead, didn't like the Sun yeet, thought I liked the Alissa yeet but had big time second thoughts. Having no time to establish my reads today (12/12 kinda kicks my butt) and in a moment of panic, it seemed like the only viable vote that wasn't Sun or Alissa and was somewhat on my radar.

 

[WildZoo]

Where do you think she should have voted?


Alissa was a bad vote, and was pointed out several times.

Somewhere with a bit more thought put into it, probably

 

[WildZoo]

Also common courtesy in my mind to at least tag someone you haven't even mentioned wanting to vote for if you're gonna try to start a wagon on them with less than 10 minutes left in the day.

You know, if you actually care about whether you might be voting for another villager

I haven't really seen a good argument for doggo suspicion anyway so waiting on that

 

[Aprilthearab]

Somewhere with a bit more thought put into it, probably

I have had precisely zero time for thought today outside of blindly getting roped into madness and trying to answer people's questions about me (which I still have not been able to do fully unfortunately)

Also kind of annoyed that someone else had asked, basically, Would you rather I just jump on without a full catch up? and you said yes, but earlier you had also said to me that you didn't like that I was posting about stuff without getting the full catch-up context

 

[holdthemayo]

Somewhere with a bit more thought put into it, probably

There was minimal thought put into the Alissa vote, so we'll need a third option.

 

[sunshinefl]

Honestly I have not been a fan of AM repeatedly advertising her inflated self-importance - she often does so but subtly, don't know what's going on this game that she feels the need to make it so known. Didn't like her Alissa push with taking no responsibility after the fact. Didn't like her chatting it up with Cray right at yeet close instead of paying attention to what was happening.

I agree with all of this, except I think that's just AM.... except maybe the chatting with cray at yeet deadline. Maybe distracting the village from getting organized to save Alissa?

 

[holdthemayo]

Also common courtesy in my mind to at least tag someone you haven't even mentioned wanting to vote for if you're gonna try to start a wagon on them with less than 10 minutes left in the day.

You know, if you actually care about whether you might be voting for another villager

I haven't really seen a good argument for doggo suspicion anyway so waiting on that

Dear @Doggo Labs ,

I voted for you.

So did some others.

Alissa was a bad vote. You weren't my first choice, but you were the only one of my wolf reads I could get traction on.

-Mayo

PS - Please return the pigeon with or without response. These things don't grow on trees.

 

[Aprilthearab]

I agree with all of this, except I think that's just AM.... except maybe the chatting with cray at yeet deadline. Maybe distracting the village from getting organized to save Alissa?

That's what I was thinking, especially since she completely ignored my tag of her to please drop the unimportant convo for later and actually help

 

[WildZoo]

There was minimal thought put into the Alissa vote, so we'll need a third option.

Unless you think all the wolves were on that vote (unlikely), take that up with the villagers who thought she was sketchy If you thought april was a better option, why weren't you pushing harder for it?

Alissa is leaning wolf for me

Also nice try but just because you changed your mind 20 minutes later doesn't mean you get to act like the vote was built on nothing

 

[Zenge142]

There was minimal thought put into the Alissa vote, so we'll need a third option.

I have to disagree with you there. You might not agree with it, but ultimately Alissa really didn’t give us anything to work with. Everyone was throwing her lifelines and she didn’t take any of them. She was lurking with minimal participation, and it was reasonable for people to see it as sketchy, or at least, be stuck with the quandary that the only real way to find out her affiliation was to yeet her.

I know you don’t see the game that way, and disagree with the strategy, but you can’t pretend there wasn’t any thought put into it.

Multiple people tried to get her to say something that would give us a reason to change our minds on her and it was like pulling teeth. I wish I didn’t go down the way it did, but it’s hard to imagine village being able to move on with this unknown looming over us.

 

[Aprilthearab]

Just so people are aware I am still some odd 9 pages behind on my catch up and my reads are somewhere between shaky and nonexistent but it's almost midnight and I gotta go to bed, so wish me luck trying to do this all over again tomorrow

 

[WildZoo]

Also just wondering what changed for you between this post

It's closer than I was expecting to how I'm reading things.

I would like to hear directly from Alissa why AM and April are her top wolf reads.

I'm less wolfy on April based on how things went down today.

What are your thoughts on WZ and AM and how they handled tonight?

And these

I'm still on April for now.

In a meeting.

Yeet April

Wolf reads are April and WZ currently.

Alissa is leaning wolf for me. You were until today

Sunshine is hard for me to pin down. I see where she is coming from with her frustration and think I would be frustrated in her position too. It's amazingly frustrating when people are piling on for weak reasoning. Her vote last night was village, she at least started to make an effort today. I'm not comfortable voting there tonight, but might be going forward.

Zeng is hitting the wrong buttons for me today. He's been an aggro player in the little I've seen of him, but seems over aggro in this one. Could be a playstyle difference, but pings my radar as frustrating.

I did a reread of Doggos and Barks. I have confirmed they are different people. I'm leaning Barks pretty hard on village. Doggos less so.

I don't see much effort put into the april read at all or even an explanation for it anywhere, so it's not really surprising that no one got on the vote with you. Didn't seem like you really believed in it all that much.

 

[holdthemayo]

Also nice try but just because you changed your mind 20 minutes later doesn't mean you get to act like the vote was built on nothing

I spent quite a bit of effort on moving attention off of Alissa onto what I deemed better reads (April, WZ, Doggo).

I also called out Alissa for 2 days to post something in her own defense. Even when I said I was sus of her I pointed out that there wasn't enough to yeet her today.

The whole vote was based on activity rather than content which is frustrating in a forum like this. You've used the same defense.

 

[WildZoo]

I spent quite a bit of effort on moving attention off of Alissa onto what I deemed better reads (April, WZ, Doggo).

I also called out Alissa for 2 days to post something in her own defense. Even when I said I was sus of her I pointed out that there wasn't enough to yeet her today.

The whole vote was based on activity rather than content which is frustrating in a forum like this. You've used the same defense.

Where is the effort to move things onto april? Or any of us really? Moving your vote =/= effort, if you actually want people to follow you have to make a case.

 

[WildZoo]

Unyeet WZ
Yeet Doggos

Just seeing if anyone is willing to bite on anything other than the Alissa wagon.

I hope I'm wrong, but it seems flimsly.

Did an Iso on Doggo and Barkley today to tell them apart

Barks came out very village

Doggos was mixed, so I'm willing to explore that direction.

Here is the doggo effort

 

[holdthemayo]

I have to disagree with you there. You might not agree with it, but ultimately Alissa really didn’t give us anything to work with. Everyone was throwing her lifelines and she didn’t take any of them. She was lurking with minimal participation, and it was reasonable for people to see it as sketchy, or at least, be stuck with the quandary that the only real way to find out her affiliation was to yeet her.

I know you don’t see the game that way, and disagree with the strategy, but you can’t pretend there wasn’t any thought put into it.

Multiple people tried to get her to say something that would give us a reason to change our minds on her and it was like pulling teeth. I wish I didn’t go down the way it did, but it’s hard to imagine village being able to move on with this unknown looming over us.

I'm fine with activity votes D1. I pointed out that I don't think a wolf would have missed a vote. I didn't like the lack of activity, but it makes much less sense for a wolf to be inactive to that level. People are usually more excited to wolf.

Also just wondering what changed for you between this post



And these




I don't see much effort put into the april read at all or even an explanation for it anywhere, so it's not really surprising that no one got on the vote with you. Didn't seem like you really believed in it all that much.

What is your point?

Nothing cleared April from yesterday, weird everyone shifted off of her. It's weird, which is why I asked about it. Says more about the people on April than April probably.

Your play has been very sus. I called that out last night.

AM tambien

Ultimately I switched to Doggo, who I had mention I found less convincing on my Barks/Doggos iso earlier today.

Everyone I've voted has been consistent with my reads. Which is more than some other people can say.

 

[WildZoo]

Bedtime for me now. I also quoted this samac post as I was catching up but I'm not sure how I feel about it yet. Someone already asked the same question I was gonna ask and I'm still ruminating on her answer, since I think I'm coming down on the side of village frustration from sun rather than wolf flailing

I have considered going back to read some of apocalypse but who has time for that

Honestly I’m conflicted about this. I usually try to vote the quiet ones to pull them out of hiding, but I have a hard time believing Alissa would have been just staying silent all day as a lead mounts on her.

sunshine is either a super frustrated villager or a flailing wolf. I dont remember her flailing this hard when she got a day 1 yeet in the noob name. Because of the flailing I’m leaning toward
Yeet sunshine

 

[WildZoo]

I'm fine with activity votes D1. I pointed out that I don't think a wolf would have missed a vote. I didn't like the lack of activity, but it makes much less sense for a wolf to be inactive to that level. People are usually more excited to wolf.

Then why did you say you were leaning wolfy on her at 8:40pm

What is your point?

Nothing cleared April from yesterday, weird everyone shifted off of her. It's weird, which is why I asked about it. Says more about the people on April than April probably.

Your play has been very sus. I called that out last night.

AM tambien

Ultimately I switched to Doggo, who I had mention I found less convincing on my Barks/Doggos iso earlier today.

Everyone I've voted has been consistent with my reads. Which is more than some other people can say.

My point is you're talking about how you were trying so hard to move everyone off of alissa but I don't think you were actually trying.

 

[WildZoo]

Everyone I've voted has been consistent with my reads. Which is more than some other people can say.

Who are you referring to here?

 

[holdthemayo]

Then why did you say you were leaning wolfy on her at 8:40pm


My point is you're talking about how you were trying so hard to move everyone off of alissa but I don't think you were actually trying.

I tried harder than anyone else.

Either way, I think it's more useful to look at who was driving the bad yeet rather than who was trying to direct attention elsewhere.

 

[Animal Midwife]

So Pippy revealed at 7:52 and the players that were missing until <1 hour until yeet close were: mayo, Barks, sunshine, dubz.

I'm fine with dubz and Barks. May have to look deeper in sunshine and mayo. Please iso here if things happen tonight.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Yes, I'm sus for trying for an hour to pull people off of a clearly bad yeet.

With or without the lightbulb. I'm not sharing breakfast with you.

It might have been a wrong yeet but that doesn't make it bad. You were even asking Cray if you should switch to her in the final moments so you couldn't have been that against it.

Honestly I have not been a fan of AM repeatedly advertising her inflated self-importance - she often does so but subtly, don't know what's going on this game that she feels the need to make it so known. Didn't like her Alissa push with taking no responsibility after the fact. Didn't like her chatting it up with Cray right at yeet close instead of paying attention to what was happening.

I took responsibility the whole day. Kept trying to get reads, kept trying to gauge people's reactions to the wagon, etc... You're wrong about me exclusively talking to Cray. I was holding multiple conversations at once.

I agree with all of this, except I think that's just AM.... except maybe the chatting with cray at yeet deadline. Maybe distracting the village from getting organized to save Alissa?

Save alissa from who? You were the next biggest wagon.

 

[Animal Midwife]

For all who are backseat driving the alissa yeet, vote for the first time by 4pm est tomorrow. Then you'll have valid reason to complain if the wagons still aren't what you had in mind.

 

[LaineyLou]

Work was rough guys....

Wolfy reads

Mayo- either Mayo had a stroke or has lost his mind. Can’t figure out the lightbulb talk. I found it sus that thye said “just seeing if anyone is willing to bite in another other than Alissa wagon, I hope I’m wrong...” (paraphrased)
Samac- seems to dodge answering questions, flipped sunshine to wolf (completely opposite spectrums with little evidence). Then they said they usually vote the quiet ones and pull them out but they’re having a hard time believing Alissa would have just stayed quiet all day as votes add up. Minimum content IMO
Zenge is really making me sus with the last minute unyeet Alissa, yeet doggo (no explanation) then unyeet doggos yeet Alissa again with no explanation. This really caused me concern


Village lean
Cray-seems active and is questioning people and pushing for answers and reads and such.
Shorty- seems pretty normal. Nothing pings me as suspicious. I get their concern about Alissa lurking and thought that was a fair and appropriate yeet with reason opposed to others who don’t give reasons.
Sunshine- they’re battle and hostility I’m reading as just very frustrated villager who came back to a **** storm and was trying to crawl back from that
Mkg- again nothing concerning.
AM- seems like their usual self. Was frustrated with her move at the end of d1 where she jumped off the pip wagon but I think she just wanted to live. Not concerning me as they have in previous games.

???
April. At first I really thought they were village but one statement really hit me weird and I may just be reading too much into it. She discusses “I know you can play better than that sun..... starting to think you’re a really frustrated villager. But it doesn’t look good and WE need to take a step back.” I did not like “we” in that sentence it just struck me as odd
Dubz, doggo, barks, Dina still just confused on them and can’t make up my mind


Now I go to sleep because I’ve been up wayyyy too long

 

[HRH Queeb SAR]

Night Two Writeup

Another quiet night, broken only by the sounds of midnight snack hay munching and the occasional grumble when someone got into someone else's space. Regardless, goats are quiet at night for the most part. Which begs the question, how had one more gone from their number?

Gone is @supershorty who was a Kiko goat, and an odd night watcher.

It is now D3, Yeet close at 11pm AST

Roster:
Players:
1. @Animal Midwife
3. @Zenge142
4. @Aprilthearab
6. @mkg323
7. @WildZoo
8. @sunshinefl
10. @Doggo Labs
13. @Barkley13
14. @Dinashadow
22. @LaineyLou
23. @samac
127. @holdthemayo
?. @Crayola227

Removed from the farm:
@PippyPony - Mountain goat, Serial Killer JOAT
@TelemarketingEnigma - Sherlock, mason
@alissa14 - Valais Blackneck, vanilla
@supershorty - Kiko, odd night watcher
​

 

[Doggo Labs]

I don’t feel super great about what Mayo was doing last night.

I’m also not going to be on till later this afternoon, so I’m going to place a vote and reevaluate when I come back later.

Yeet Mayo

 

[Zenge142]

Night Two Writeup

Another quiet night, broken only by the sounds of midnight snack hay munching and the occasional grumble when someone got into someone else's space. Regardless, goats are quiet at night for the most part. Which begs the question, how had one more gone from their number?

Gone is @supershorty who was a Kiko goat, and an odd night watcher.

It is now D3, Yeet close at 11pm AST

Roster:
Players:
1. @Animal Midwife
2. @alissa14
3. @Zenge142
4. @Aprilthearab
6. @mkg323
7. @WildZoo
8. @sunshinefl
10. @Doggo Labs
13. @Barkley13
14. @Dinashadow
17. @supershorty
22. @LaineyLou
23. @samac
127. @holdthemayo
?. @Crayola227

Removed from the farm:
@PippyPony - Mountain goat, Serial Killer JOAT
@TelemarketingEnigma - Sherlock, mason
@alissa14 - Valais Blackneck, vanilla
@supershorty - Kiko, odd night watcher
​

Thank you @SARdoghandler for making the fate of these goats pleasant.

I’m sure we’re all glad to not have to wake up and read about how a poor innocent goat got shived, or burned or whatever. @Crayola227 ...

 

[Doggo Labs]

A few questions for Mayo.

I was not following your train of thought on the waffling. Could you try to explain that in different terms?

It also looked like you were sheeping cray on the Dubz vote, then we’re willing to fling your vote anywhere and hope it would stick.

Can you give us your reads lists with some quotes on why people are wolf?

That’s it for now, will be back later

 

[samac]

If we manage a lightbulb moment, we'll have less breakfast but you won't be in the dark.

Did you find a lightbulb?
Wtf is going on?

Work was rough guys....

Wolfy reads

Mayo- either Mayo had a stroke or has lost his mind. Can’t figure out the lightbulb talk. I found it sus that thye said “just seeing if anyone is willing to bite in another other than Alissa wagon, I hope I’m wrong...” (paraphrased)
Samac- seems to dodge answering questions, flipped sunshine to wolf (completely opposite spectrums with little evidence). Then they said they usually vote the quiet ones and pull them out but they’re having a hard time believing Alissa would have just stayed quiet all day as votes add up. Minimum content IMO
Zenge is really making me sus with the last minute unyeet Alissa, yeet doggo (no explanation) then unyeet doggos yeet Alissa again with no explanation. This really caused me concern


Village lean
Cray-seems active and is questioning people and pushing for answers and reads and such.
Shorty- seems pretty normal. Nothing pings me as suspicious. I get their concern about Alissa lurking and thought that was a fair and appropriate yeet with reason opposed to others who don’t give reasons.
Sunshine- they’re battle and hostility I’m reading as just very frustrated villager who came back to a **** storm and was trying to crawl back from that
Mkg- again nothing concerning.
AM- seems like their usual self. Was frustrated with her move at the end of d1 where she jumped off the pip wagon but I think she just wanted to live. Not concerning me as they have in previous games.

???
April. At first I really thought they were village but one statement really hit me weird and I may just be reading too much into it. She discusses “I know you can play better than that sun..... starting to think you’re a really frustrated villager. But it doesn’t look good and WE need to take a step back.” I did not like “we” in that sentence it just struck me as odd
Dubz, doggo, barks, Dina still just confused on them and can’t make up my mind


Now I go to sleep because I’ve been up wayyyy too long

You’re right, I’m waffling on sunshine.
my initial thoughts were she was a wolf trying to skate under the radar, to oh she’s just busy to trying to catch up on everything to damn she’s spiraling. The spiraling was off brand for villager sunny from what I can remember so it felt more wolfy to me.

also, i don’t know how my quiet thing didn’t make sense. I do vote inactives to try and draw them out. That was my vote on TE. The Alissa train was already rolling. My vote on her wouldnt have changed anything.
I also wasn’t the most active over the first 2 days. 24 hour shift from hell was day 2 and I still needed to get some sleep during daytime yesterday.
Also want to be clear about today, most of my activity will come afternoon as I’m unfortunately back at work this morning. I’ll try to keep up through the morning best I can, but rounds tend to be loooooonnnnggg with my current attending.

 

[Aprilthearab]

I took responsibility the whole day. Kept trying to get reads, kept trying to gauge people's reactions to the wagon, etc... You're wrong about me exclusively talking to Cray. I was holding multiple conversations at once.

I didn't say exclusively Cray, I said chatting it up with Cray. In the 15 minutes leading up to yeet close, you were only talking to Alissa about a previous game and how you don't like her play style in general, and to Cray about your ego. Despite multiple attempts from Shorty and myself asking you to please rejoin the conversation about THIS game, you continued to ignore us.

???
April. At first I really thought they were village but one statement really hit me weird and I may just be reading too much into it. She discusses “I know you can play better than that sun..... starting to think you’re a really frustrated villager. But it doesn’t look good and WE need to take a step back.” I did not like “we” in that sentence it just struck me as odd

Multiple people were involved in the argument and it was getting heated. As a group, it wasn't productive anymore and thus WE needed to take a step back, including myself. I'm not sure what is so wolfy about that wording?

 

[supershorty]

**************
Go village! Get them woofs!
**************

 

[Crayola227]

How do you know the wolves took her out, and not 3p?

This reads kinda like worried wolf, but not sure why a wolf wouldn't keep open 3P hunting to pack chat.

 

[Crayola227]

You just seemed to immediately assume it was a wolf, and I wasn’t sure why.

Given this is my first non basics(ish) game, I’m not really familiar with what to expect the given breakdowns would be , of how many wolves, vs. 3p, vs who knows what.

I take the roster # × 0.25, and round up. The total will usually be on the higher end of an estimate and should include all wolf and non-village entities. Not sure how conversion or NPC (non-player characters) fit in that number, nor do I worry too much about it. I just try to vote non-village until they're gone.

 

[Crayola227]

I need AM to come on and tell me what the rules are for revealing night results.

 

[supershorty]

************
Wish I’d woken up earlier and could have given reads one more time before dying. Sorry 🙁
Good luck all, use those noggins!
*************

 

[Crayola227]

I wish this person had jailed and protected Shorty over me. Had a feeling the wolves would be more worried about the village watcher than the unconvertible mason. Guess they wanted to see if blocking me prevented a kill. Which if I really were a wolf I would not have been my pick to do the kill last night that's for sure.

 

[Crayola227]

I am trying to catch up, I have a breast MRI for early cancer screening around 4 pm PST today that takes like an hour plus plus grocery shopping after.

 

[Zenge142]

I wish this person had jailed and protected Shorty over me. Had a feeling the wolves would be more worried about the village watcher than the unconvertible mason. Guess they wanted to see if blocking me prevented a kill. Which if I really were a wolf I would not have been my pick to do the kill last night that's for sure.

I think Shorty needed a IRL break anyway though. The end of basics was pretty draining.

 

[Crayola227]

Now if you're right with the numbers and 2 wolves, there would need to be a conversion mechanism to even it out maybe, but then not sure if that unbalances things with total number of baddies.

And AM is going to want to spank me for even saying the C word on D2 and for any talk about mechanism. But I thought it was worth thinking this all the way through.

AM shouldn't actually be angry I used the C word because I was trying to hint something village should know from my role PM.

 

[Crayola227]

I think Shorty needed a IRL break anyway though. The end of basics was pretty draining.

This almost tingles like you're defending the NK choice as not just wolf strategy but as humanitarian mercy killing too.

 

[Aprilthearab]

Making a note to myself about Mayo. I wolfread him D1 and although I have found myself agreeing with a lot of what he says, I still feel uneasy about him. Last night, he made this comment:

I'm not sure why, but this struck me as really village and is making me rethink my vote on you.

Which seemed completely out of the blue and not really a strong reason to village read me out of all the things I'd said up to that point, let alone it being a single tipping point that makes him unyeet me. Kind of felt like a wolfy "There there, don't fret, here's a nice warm pocket." The rest of his comments about me made after that one didn't line up at all, especially since he had no real reasons presented:

Wolf reads are April and WZ currently.

No one seems to want to jump back on the April wagon with me.

@Aprilthearab

You aren't on the chopping block tonight. No self-prez. What are your honest thoughts.

 

[Zenge142]

This almost tingles like you're defending the NK choice as not just wolf strategy but as humanitarian mercy killing too.

That’s not how I intended for you to read it.

 

[Crayola227]

The mason partner is a clear villager. Nice to have around in endgame if they can keep themselves hidden.

This, 100% this. I was really hoping to keep the masonry under the radar until further in the game and then use it to clear myself when it counted.

 

[Crayola227]

Exactly.

Me blowing up is one way to prevent N1'ing me. Village won't yeet me unless they have rock where brain juices should be.

I didn't realize I had a trademarked article now or that it addressed vengefuls.

I mean, if we want to talk about following my VCA, I died with my vote on April. Who not only was a wolf you cleared, but also a busser. Just saying.

It's fine to have your own individual thoughts on who should die after I die, but don't say you were blindly "following my VCA" when they only people I yeeted were MsP and April.

I recommend that anyway. When it's time for village to jump off a cliff for me, I'll let you know.

Uh, so fear you're a bomb is supposed to stay the killing hands of wolves every game that you boast villagers cannot win without you? Uh, OK.

 

[Crayola227]

It sure the hell wasn't me.

You have definitely given me a hard time when I've waited too long to role reveal when I'm up for mislynch or have sat on night results. It could get pulled up from a game.

 

[Crayola227]

So I've been going back and forth between reading this thread and the end of the world game, so apologies for being quiet. I agree Enigma is a weird target for the wolves, is it possible the kill was redirected to her somehow? I was thinking of voting sunshine as she's not been posting much, which is similar to how she played in the end of the world game (at least where I am in my reading, I think I'm going to ISO her posts to get more of a feel) and she was a wolf there. However, I'd like to see the reasons other people have for voting for her at this moment, WildZoo hopping on the vote a minute after zenge makes me nervous

Wolfy tingles. Reads maybe like wolf disappointed their kill was redirected and fishing a little on thread.

 

[Crayola227]

Well, she'd know Pippy wasn't wolf if she's wolf. She wouldn't know whether she was village or 3p though. But yeah, it seems like a late move to a "safer" vote in the event of more scrutiny today.

Then these wolves aren't playing very smart. Moving off a villager to try to look innocent is worse than just riding the train to the end of the line.

 

[WildZoo]

I tried harder than anyone else.

Either way, I think it's more useful to look at who was driving the bad yeet rather than who was trying to direct attention elsewhere.

Oversimplified. Real effort to direct attention elsewhere, yes. An attempt to appear like that's what you're doing when all you're really doing is avoiding the bandwagon yourself...that's more suspicious to me than following a read with conviction. We know villagers lead village votes all the time. It happens every single game. Context is important.

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