Lincoln Memorial DeBusk (LMU-DCOM) Discussion Thread 2015 - 2016

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Does LMU provide us with Kaplan or test prep for the COMLEX? Also, I am about to submit the deposit. Pretty set on going here unless I get an instate acceptance! Am I supposed to get more information through the mail or email concerning housing, vaccinations, etc? Sorry I'm completely new to this haha.
 
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Does LMU provide us with Kaplan or test prep for the COMLEX? Also, I am about to submit the deposit. Pretty set on going here unless I get an instate acceptance! Am I supposed to get more information through the mail or email concerning housing, vaccinations, etc? Sorry I'm completely new to this haha.
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After they get the deposit they will send you everything in a series of emails.
 
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Does LMU provide us with Kaplan or test prep for the COMLEX? Also, I am about to submit the deposit. Pretty set on going here unless I get an instate acceptance! Am I supposed to get more information through the mail or email concerning housing, vaccinations, etc? Sorry I'm completely new to this haha.
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----oops ignore this, I didn't realize you were already accepted. Sorry :)
 
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I love that they were sure to tell us all that we would get a call on Friday....... and no calls made to anyone.
 
To the group I was in, they said they would try to on Friday but if not they would sometime during the weekend. They said that with it being a holiday week, sometimes they fall behind. I DO hate waiting, but I'm sure they have a reason for not calling yet. Hopefully it will be soon!
 
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To the group I was in, they said they would try to on Friday but if not they would sometime during the weekend. They said that with it being a holiday week, sometimes they fall behind. I DO hate waiting, but I'm sure they have a reason for not calling yet. Hopefully it will be soon!
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I hope so. This is one of my top schools! The waiting is the worst part of the entire application cycle.
 
Oh_Gee said:
@Happy Student @Mjolner
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/choosing-the-right-do-school.1160419/
what are your guys' views on this thread?
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@Oh_Gee I must be seeing only part of the thread, because I am not seeing what everyone else seems to be commenting on. Please cut and paste the original post for me, if you would.

I am guessing the post was something about third and fourth year? While it is fair to say every site is not the same, it is also fair to say that the school does everything it can to make sure that people get their top pick in site, or close to their top. When going to make your list for rotation sites, it is important that you take your time to research the sites to understand everything about them. Talking to Third and Fourth years ahead of you is very important. In addition to that, get as much feed back as possible from different students. While one student may be very enthusiastic about their site and another not so much, the discrepancy may be based on the personality of the student and their self driven tendencies. You need to take this into consideration when analyzing a site (and even a school). I will say, there is one site in particular here at DCOM that is brand new. It will certainly need some pioneering before it reaches the potential that the school hopes it will be.

Something else I have been wanting to get on here and comment on. A perk about DCOM if you will; during year three, there are two Cores. Core one starts off with 1/2 of students doing their core rotations. These are set up by the school and include: Internal medicine (8 weeks), OB, Surgery (4 weeks), Psych (4 weeks), and Peds (4 weeks). Core 2 (the other half of students) starts off setting 5 of the 6 rotations up themselves. The 6th rotation being family medicine, which is set up by the school. After the first 6 months (Starting January) each core will switch. Those who are core 2 will do the school set up rotations, while the Core 1 students will do their 5/6 rotations. While this might seem like a headache, because you have to set 5 out of your 6 "off" month rotations up, this is actually a huge perk to this school. I have been rotating with several other school recently in a residency I am interested in. While here I have had the opportunity to pick the brains of several 4th years from many different schools. So far, DCOM is the only school I have come across that allows students to select 5 elective/selective rotations during their 3rd year rotations. This is very valuable if you are unsure of what you want to do as a physician. If you are interested in Anesthesiology, Orthopedic surgery, Cardiology or any other sub-specialty that is not typically a core, you can select to do one of those as your elective and decide if it is something you want. Several other schools I have spoken too have only been given at most 2 electives they are allowed to choose, and those were usually during the end of their third year when they should have had audition rotations already selected and set up. So essentially, DCOM allows students to have 5 electives they can choose whatever field they want to rotate with. Two thumbs up here, if you are unsure of what you want to do, which is 90% of medical students.
 
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Happy Student said:
@Oh_Gee I must be seeing only part of the thread, because I am not seeing what everyone else seems to be commenting on. Please cut and paste the original post for me, if you would.

I am guessing the post was something about third and fourth year? While it is fair to say every site is not the same, it is also fair to say that the school does everything it can to make sure that people get their top pick in site, or close to their top. When going to make your list for rotation sites, it is important that you take your time to research the sites to understand everything about them. Talking to Third and Fourth years ahead of you is very important. In addition to that, get as much feed back as possible from different students. While one student may be very enthusiastic about their site and another not so much, the discrepancy may be based on the personality of the student and their self driven tendencies. You need to take this into consideration when analyzing a site (and even a school). I will say, there is one site in particular here at DCOM that is brand new. It will certainly need some pioneering before it reaches the potential that the school hopes it will be.

Something else I have been wanting to get on here and comment on. A perk about DCOM if you will; during year three, there are two Cores. Core one starts off with 1/2 of students doing their core rotations. These are set up by the school and include: Internal medicine (8 weeks), OB, Surgery (4 weeks), Psych (4 weeks), and Peds (4 weeks). Core 2 (the other half of students) starts off setting 5 of the 6 rotations up themselves. The 6th rotation being family medicine, which is set up by the school. After the first 6 months (Starting January) each core will switch. Those who are core 2 will do the school set up rotations, while the Core 1 students will do their 5/6 rotations. While this might seem like a headache, because you have to set 5 out of your 6 "off" month rotations up, this is actually a huge perk to this school. I have been rotating with several other school recently in a residency I am interested in. While here I have had the opportunity to pick the brains of several 4th years from many different schools. So far, DCOM is the only school I have come across that allows students to select 5 elective/selective rotations during their 3rd year rotations. This is very valuable if you are unsure of what you want to do as a physician. If you are interested in Anesthesiology, Orthopedic surgery, Cardiology or any other sub-specialty that is not typically a core, you can select to do one of those as your elective and decide if it is something you want. Several other schools I have spoken too have only been given at most 2 electives they are allowed to choose, and those were usually during the end of their third year when they should have had audition rotations already selected and set up. So essentially, DCOM allows students to have 5 electives they can choose whatever field they want to rotate with. Two thumbs up here, if you are unsure of what you want to do, which is 90% of medical students.
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Sorry to quote my own post, but I have one last thing I wanted to add. During those 5 rotations, you can even select to do them at a residency you "might" be interested in. This is a huge plus as it allows you to see what the residency is like and if you want to use up one of your audition rotations during 4th year at that rotation. In addition, I have had the privilege of seeing what audition rotations are like, so when I do them next year, I have already got a huge advantage at knowing what is expected of me during those rotations. Again huge plus.
 
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blah12346497 said:
Does LMU provide us with Kaplan or test prep for the COMLEX? Also, I am about to submit the deposit. Pretty set on going here unless I get an instate acceptance! Am I supposed to get more information through the mail or email concerning housing, vaccinations, etc? Sorry I'm completely new to this haha.
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The school provides the COMBANK question bank. In addition, many of the faculty will hold multi-day reviews. (Many of them work with it have worked with Kaplan in the past). There is also a few Kaplan courses that the school will host depending on interest but you do have to pay for those.

You should get a snail mail or email concerning everything that's due, however, I believe it's usually a mass email at once in the spring.
 
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Sorry to quote my own post, but I have one last thing I wanted to add. During those 5 rotations, you can even select to do them at a residency you "might" be interested in. This is a huge plus as it allows you to see what the residency is like and if you want to use up one of your audition rotations during 4th year at that rotation. In addition, I have had the privilege of seeing what audition rotations are like, so when I do them next year, I have already got a huge advantage at knowing what is expected of me during those rotations. Again huge plus.
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Thank you for all of the amazing info though!! That's all so good to know.
 
Happy Student said:
Sorry to quote my own post, but I have one last thing I wanted to add. During those 5 rotations, you can even select to do them at a residency you "might" be interested in. This is a huge plus as it allows you to see what the residency is like and if you want to use up one of your audition rotations during 4th year at that rotation. In addition, I have had the privilege of seeing what audition rotations are like, so when I do them next year, I have already got a huge advantage at knowing what is expected of me during those rotations. Again huge plus.
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http://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/choosing-the-right-do-school.1160419/#post-16898069
this post had the original first post quoted. looks like OP deleted it
 
Well everyone...hopefully tomorrow is our day.
 
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I'm getting tired of keeping my phone next to me all the time :D
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Oh by the way I wasn't trying to steal your name, I just was feeling very hopeful and 28 was my soccer jersey number I got on this forum and was like whoa that's weird...

BEST OF LUCK TO EVERYONE ON YOUR WAIT TOMORROW
 
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Oh by the way I wasn't trying to steal your name, I just was feeling very hopeful and 28 was my soccer jersey number I got on this forum and was like whoa that's weird...

BEST OF LUCK TO EVERYONE ON YOUR WAIT TOMORROW
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Haha no problem!
 
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http://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/choosing-the-right-do-school.1160419/#post-16898069
this post had the original first post quoted. looks like OP deleted it
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Okay, I read through that post from the other 3rd year, and here are my thoughts.

Yes, the class size is large, but I did not find that the school struggled to organize us and give us all fair opportunity to succeed during years 1 and 2. Were there times that hiccups happened, yes, but they were very good to reschedule and allow us to do what we needed for learning. Would I have liked a smaller class? Maybe, but it wasn't a deal breaker for me and in the long run, it doesn't matter if I get where I want to go. So far, I feel that is sufficiently happening. If you feel like a smaller class if more for you, consider that in your selection for medical school.
As for clinical staff on campus, yes, there are fewer numbers and low specialty staff at DCOM, but does that really matter? For me it didn't. Having a staff member at the school in the specialty I may be interested in doesn't matter except for maybe getting some advice regarding the specialty, but most the staff there has information regardless of what you are interested in. During years 1 and 2, it is all about learning the information you need for boards and clinical rotations. The school allows you to set up 5 elective/selective rotations specifically to fulfill lack of specialty physicians at the school. This is much better, I would rather have a letter of rec and information from someone who practices more regularly, has seen me specifically work in that specialty and can more accurately comment on my medical knowledge outside of a classroom environment. What is a specialist who taught you in a classroom going to write in your letter of Rec? "yes, he came to class, asked questions and got good grades in my subject", steller letter :shrug:. In addition, by the time you need that letter a year and a half later, they wont have a clue who you really are, two other classes have gone through their class too. As for the specialist teaching the course, yes, that may prove beneficial, but I don't think essential. You are not trying to obtain in-depth information during years 1 and 2. You are trying to obtain superficial information required for boards and to help you learn to walk at the beginning of year 3. A specialist teaching the subject may just introduce more complex information that is not needed to pass step 1. In-depth information is to be obtained in years 3, 4 and residency in my opinion and that is the purpose for steps 2 and 3. Learning to walk is important for learning to run.

As for rotation sites; Yes! there are some sites that are better than others depending on what you are looking for. If you want a rural environment, then place a rural site as your number one rotation site. If you are wanting an urban environment, place that as your number one spot. If you don't want rural, don't rank rural. I firmly believe that what you get out of rotations is what you put into rotations. The only exception is with the new site Franklin that was mentioned in the original thread. Franklin is a new site and clearly has some pioneering that will need to happen. Unfortunately it does have some kinks that will need to be worked out. This is a problem I will agree, and I hope that DCOM staff is truly working to correct the issue. If enough people continue to voice concerns for it, then something will change.

As for the comment regarding stringing students along; yes, DCOM will do everything they can to help get you through this process, and this includes allowing you to stay back a year and repeat courses. Should DCOM cut students earlier? Maybe, and most the time I have seen that they do. However, it is the students responsibility to evaluate their life and determine if being a physician is really something they should be doing. At ages 20-30, you should be able to be honest with yourself and know your limits. If you struggled all throughout undergraduate and science courses were very difficult for you, then perhaps you should have a heart to heart with yourself and determine if you should keep perusing this dream or follow another.

As for research; yes there are opportunities for research if you seek them out. No, this is not a major research university. If your heart is really that determined to do research, then perhaps you should look into an MD/PhD program. Make sense? If you like having a little research here and there and you have an idea you would like to look into, it would be very easy to get a grant at DCOM and pursue your research. If you don't finish it, that is okay, a lot of residencies require that you do research during your time with them, you can pick the research back up with them.

I personally have had a great experience with DCOM and know several other classmates who have too. I will admit, if you are a pessimistic individual (which I am not saying the original poster of the aforementioned thread is) and require spoon feeding, you MAY struggle at this school. There are a few individuals I know who are in my class that have been very pessimistic and critical throughout the process and they have been miserable and have essentially made the people around them miserable too. It is a new school, and as mentioned before, hiccups happen. However, I feel I have obtained a very thorough education here and did quite well on step 1 boards, all my doors are still open. I am a driven, optimistic, self learning individual and try to find a learning opportunity in everything that I do, even if the situation is sub-par. DCOM has given me the skills I need to be able to walk in the clinical field and learn from preceptors on how to run. Several times in my last two rotations I have been complimented on my clinical skills I exhibit and those I obtained through DCOM's program. Are there things I wish DCOM would have taught? Yes, but that is what is great about DCOM, they are always learning and obtaining feedback from students to improve for the next class. If something needs correcting, they are good to make the steps necessary to fix what has been wronged or not taught. I may be the exception to the comments I have made. If I am, I apologize for misleading anyone into choosing DCOM. I choose the school because it felt right for me and I have gone into the process with a 110% mindset. At times I have had my pessimistic thoughts, but my wife is good to point them out and help me correct my trajectory.
 
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Does anyone know on the decisions following interview what alternate/hold status is? Is this 2 different possible categories to be put in? Or is it the wait list?
 
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Does anyone know on the decisions following interview what alternate/hold status is? Is this 2 different possible categories to be put in? Or is it the wait list?
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Just in case you didn't get enough information from that, alternate/hold is the same thing, and it is the wait list.
 
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Didn't know if there were 2 categories or buckets to fall into with Alternate/hold. That was the document I was looking at that was In the link. Thanks
 
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Didn't know if there were 2 categories or buckets to fall into with Alternate/hold. That was the document I was looking at that was In the link. Thanks
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I didn't get wait listed, so I'm not an expert, but I've never heard of more than just the wait list from those you have. I'd assume one bucket for everyone not outright accepted or rejected.
 
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I'm assuming me and the two hopefuls aren't the only ones who haven't got a call yet from sep 4?
 
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I'm assuming me and the two hopefuls aren't the only ones who haven't got a call yet from sep 4?
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I'm assuming something came up and they were unable to make calls. My understanding is that the letters are mailed out before the calls are made so they should be half way to your home by now.
 
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I'm assuming something came up and they were unable to make calls. My understanding is that the letters are mailed out before the calls are made so they should be half way to your home by now.
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I think I've given up waiting for a call and am just waiting for a letter....:D
 
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I'm assuming something came up and they were unable to make calls. My understanding is that the letters are mailed out before the calls are made so they should be half way to your home by now.
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Ok thanks for the info!
 
I heard Dr. Weiting was out of town but I don't know...
 
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I heard Dr. Weitman was out of town but I don't know...
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I hope he wasn't out of town because if you tell someone Friday you should follow through on it :/ I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt and say it's due to Labor Day though. If tomorrow isn't the day and I don't get a letter by Wednesday, I may just end up calling them.
 
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I hope he wasn't out of town because if you tell someone Friday you should follow through on it :/ I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt and say it's due to Labor Day though. If tomorrow isn't the day and I don't get a letter by Wednesday, I may just end up calling them.
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Typically this "promise" is prefaced with the fact that things come up and Dr Weitings schedule often changes without notice. And most the time when he's out of town he still makes calls. So if he hasn't had the chance yet, chances are it been something out of the norm. Calling isn't likely to help, because admissions is not allowed to tell you over the phone. Letters are mailed generally the same afternoon as committee meetings so that's probably when you'd hear since he hasn't called.

I know it's exciting and nerve-wracking but everyone needs to take a deep breathe and attempt some patience. I know it's hard :)
 
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I hope he wasn't out of town because if you tell someone Friday you should follow through on it :/ I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt and say it's due to Labor Day though. If tomorrow isn't the day and I don't get a letter by Wednesday, I may just end up calling them.
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Take a DEEP breath...
 
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If you expect everything in life to run smoothly, you're in for a bad time.
 
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If you expect everything in life to run smoothly, you're in for a bad time.
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Exactly. As much as he said he enjoys calling people to let them know they're accepted, I'm sure something came up.

Either that or none of us got in....
Just kidding (I hope)
 
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I hope he wasn't out of town because if you tell someone Friday you should follow through on it :/ I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt and say it's due to Labor Day though. If tomorrow isn't the day and I don't get a letter by Wednesday, I may just end up calling them.
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Just be patient man, things happen. The application cycle doesn't revolve around you.
 
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Guys, I'm such a nervous and impatient person. LOL doesn't work well for application cycles, AND this is my second one. But all you supportive people have convinced me not to shoot myself in the foot and call. So thank you. :D :D
 
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That time when a whole interview group got wait-listed... Lolz.
 
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That time when a whole interview group got wait-listed... Lolz.
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