Michigan State c/o 2022 Applicants!

[N1235]

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Yes! That is me! I know exactly who you are. I loved talking to you all day. Thanks for making the day so much fun and relaxing. I am rooting for you too!! 🙂

@N1235 I actually think I know who you might be... I think we talked a lot throughout the day? Is your IS Ohio/have a lot of research/small animal interest? I’m really rooting for you to get into MSU! I was wearing a tan blazer... and had my stupid nerd glasses on too lol

 

[ahallowell]

@N1235 ahhhh thought so! I really enjoyed talking with you too. It seemed like MSU would be a great fit for us. Fingers crossed!!! 🙂 🙂

 

[youngkal]

Ahh i love reading this now. I am rooting for you OOS! I cant wait to meet you all in person!! I have officially accepted my seat <3 is it august yet?

 

[Vet_Squared80]

This may seem like a silly question... I haven't had my interview yet or visited the school though. When does the "new curriculum" go into effect? Will it be instated for the class of 2022? I can't seem to find much info about the new curriculum on their website. If someone could fill me in on what it's all about, that'd be great!

You’ll get more info at your interview, but the new curriculum starts with the class of 2022 this fall. I’m
very excited about it and during our tour, they had a wonderful presentation that highlighted the new program.

 

[youngkal]

Reports

This talks about it! But as Bluegoose said they will talk about it at your interview lunch session! But I read one of the reports and it explained some of it! We will be the first group to go through it!

 

[ahallowell]

The curriculum was one of the most appealing parts of MSU CVM. I was instantly sold after hearing more about it. They’ll explain the curriculum as a whole (there are also diagrams displayed in one of the hallways during your tour... wish I snapped a picture) and then a professor will show you a sample of an agenda for a class. Very neat! All the current students that were present had a class that piloted the learning process and they stated that they learned more from the “case/problem-based learning” style more than any lecture class they’ve had. So very appealing. Ugh MSU ❤️ So many amazing things!

 

[Vet_Squared80]

The curriculum was one of the most appealing parts of MSU CVM. I was instantly sold after hearing more about it.

I felt the same. I mean, I was already sold because I bleed Green, but that just solidified my love for them, LOL.

 

[toro2013]

Did anyone send thank you notes? I know it would be hard but maybe just a general one?

 

[mlew18507]

The curriculum was one of the most appealing parts of MSU CVM. I was instantly sold after hearing more about it. They’ll explain the curriculum as a whole (there are also diagrams displayed in one of the hallways during your tour... wish I snapped a picture) and then a professor will show you a sample of an agenda for a class. Very neat! All the current students that were present had a class that piloted the learning process and they stated that they learned more from the “case/problem-based learning” style more than any lecture class they’ve had. So very appealing. Ugh MSU ❤️ So many amazing things!

I loved this about MSU CVM also! This is exactly the type of learning environment that I prefer in order to do my best and it is great that the students there said that they still have a little bit of a life... our tour guide said that she goes to bed every day at 10 and gets up no earlier than 7 AND goes to the gym every day! that sounded amazing to me and had me sold right from the beginning... my fingers have never been more crossed!

 

[mlew18507]

Did anyone send thank you notes? I know it would be hard but maybe just a general one?

I did send one.

 

[toro2013]

I did send one.

Who did you send it to, Dr. Hilda?

 

[mlew18507]

Who did you send it to, Dr. Hilda?

I sent it to both business cards that were in my welcome folder.

 

[overcalfinated]

I did send one.

ah! I feel like a terrible human being. I didn't send one at all. Do most prospective students usually send a thank you email?

 

[JustPaws]

ah! I feel like a terrible human being. I didn't send one at all. Do most prospective students usually send a thank you email?

I didn't (cringe)

 

[overcalfinated]

I didn't (cringe)

and you were accepted hahahaha. I'm sure it doesn't count against me if I didn't send one.

 

[JustPaws]

and you were accepted hahahaha. I'm sure it doesn't count against me if I didn't send one.

Hopefully they don't change their minds! Maybe I should send in my check....

 

[CAndM16]

Hey all! I am interviewing on the 9th, and I was wondering if anyone who has interviewed can tell me if the day generally ends around 2:15? I am trying to figure out if I can take an earlier flight home. Thanks!!

 

[AnimalsAreBetter]

Hey all! I am interviewing on the 9th, and I was wondering if anyone who has interviewed can tell me if the day generally ends around 2:15? I am trying to figure out if I can take an earlier flight home. Thanks!!

Mine ended at about 2:30ish

 

[CAndM16]

Mine ended at about 2:30ish

Thanks for the info!

 

[Vombatidae]

Mine was around 2:30 as well, however, you could skip the tour. They made it clear during ours that you could leave as needed.

 

[Aqua_girl87]

Hey all! I am interviewing on the 9th, and I was wondering if anyone who has interviewed can tell me if the day generally ends around 2:15? I am trying to figure out if I can take an earlier flight home. Thanks!!

I'll be interviewing there on the 9th as well! 🙂

 

[RedLauren]

Ok I just finished my interview and MSU’s new curriculum, flipped classroom, and house system is PRETTY RAD.

Why do I have to fall in love with every vet school I interview at???

 

[Cmac92]

I know everyone is really loving the idea of the new curriculum (myself included), but is anyone else nervous about the potential implications on NAVLE/board scores? I know you shouldn't teach to the test, but I'm extremely apprehensive at the idea of being the flagship class for the new teaching system...thoughts?

 

[youngkal]

I know everyone is really loving the idea of the new curriculum (myself included), but is anyone else nervous about the potential implications on NAVLE/board scores? I know you shouldn't teach to the test, but I'm extremely apprehensive at the idea of being the flagship class for the new teaching system...thoughts?

I am not too worried about this! They told the 2021-ers that they would still be able to tutor us because the content isn’t changing just the way the are presenting. I think they are going in a great direction, it sounds a little bit similar to how Cornell works and they have a good pass rate. I dont think the university would make the change if they were worried about changes to their NAVLE rate because you have to stay high to maintain accreditation

 

[Ashgirl]

I know everyone is really loving the idea of the new curriculum (myself included), but is anyone else nervous about the potential implications on NAVLE/board scores? I know you shouldn't teach to the test, but I'm extremely apprehensive at the idea of being the flagship class for the new teaching system...thoughts?

I think it is a valid concern, though theoretically content "should" remain the same, just a different way of teaching it. I do think there was one case I heard of (could be rumor) of Mississippi switching from pbl to lecture learning due to low NAVLE rates, but again, we don't know how well it was implemented, what went wrong, etc.

How I look of it is even schools with practically zero lectures (like Western) still do okay on the NAVLE, then those that are shifting around how they teach the same material is probably okay. The good news is, there are great study materials for it (VetPrep, Zuku, self-assessments), so even if the program is slacking (which is doubtful), you can make up for it if you need to.

 

[RedLauren]

I’m not worried. The RVC does their curriculum the same way and they have excellent pass rates.

 

[AnimalsAreBetter]

Does anyone know if you can switch to IS after the first year if you marry a Michigan resident? My fiance is a Michigan resident. I really loved MSU and this is my dream school but it's so expensive!

 

[AnimalsAreBetter]

And another question, does anyone know how much the OOS waitlist usually moves?

 

[toro2013]

And another question, does anyone know how much the OOS waitlist usually moves?

Did you hear already regarding OOS decisions?

 

[AnimalsAreBetter]

Did you hear already regarding OOS decisions?

No, just preparing myself

 

[toro2013]

No, just preparing myself

Stay positive! We should hear next week!

 

[youngkal]

Does anyone know if you can switch to IS after the first year if you marry a Michigan resident? My fiance is a Michigan resident. I really loved MSU and this is my dream school but it's so expensive!

I dont think you can

 

[youngkal]

And another question, does anyone know how much the OOS waitlist usually moves?

According to last year it looked like a lot. The offered seats to what appears to be 147 OOS students, if @finnickthedog and I are correct that the offers the share in their stats is those who rejected

Class of 2021 Profile

 

[AnimalsAreBetter]

According to last year it looked like a lot. The offered seats to what appears to be 147 OOS students, if @finnickthedog and I are correct that the offers the share in their stats is those who rejected

Class of 2021 Profile

I was thinking that the selected # was including the selected for waitlist but never getting in. I was going through previous years and it looked like people that were above #50 never got accepted. So the 147 were the students offered seats? Meaning they went through over 100 people on the waitlist? Sorry for all these questions I was just confused on how the profile is actually broken down.

 

[youngkal]

Oh maybe but i thought this year as long as you interviewed you were on the waitlist so that’s why i thought the other way! And the numbers line up for IS so haha that’s why i thought that. But i guess idk for sure! Someone should ask tomorrow!11

 

[DogtorWannabe]

Oh maybe but i thought this year as long as you interviewed you were on the waitlist so that’s why i thought the other way! And the numbers line up for IS so haha that’s why i thought that. But i guess idk for sure! Someone should ask tomorrow!11

From what it sounded like at the interview last week, you are correct - if you interviewed, you will either be offered admission or a waitlist spot. But yes - maybe confirmation from someone tomorrow would be helpful!

 

[AnimalsAreBetter]

From what it sounded like at the interview last week, you are correct - if you interviewed, you will either be offered admission or a waitlist spot. But yes - maybe confirmation from someone tomorrow would be helpful!

I emailed admissions and this is what they said:

"Thank you for contacting us. Last year, 147 out of state students were selected. This includes the candidates who received initial offers (approximately 100) and those who came off the alternate list. As we indicated in the debrief, this year we will be more conservative with initial offers and therefore will have a longer waitlist."

I didn't know they initially offered 100 people admission! I thought that they sent out 37 initial offers and then went through the waitlist. Now it makes sense on why the waitlist moved less than 50 last year.

 

[youngkal]

Yeah that seems dangerous to offer more than you can take but hey guess they know what will work


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[Vombatidae]

@toro2013 - is it for sure going to be released next week (like you heard from someone) or are you just guessing???

Also, perhaps this is ignorant of me, but if you are OOS >> if you move, get an apartment/house, etc. I thought that you are a "resident" no matter what after 12 months and pay taxes - am I wrong? I know that a dorm doesn't count, but if you technically lived there all year, or at least paid for it, why would you not be considered in-state?

 

[youngkal]

@toro2013 - is it for sure going to be released next week (like you heard from someone) or are you just guessing???

Also, perhaps this is ignorant of me, but if you are OOS >> if you move, get an apartment/house, etc. I thought that you are a "resident" no matter what after 12 months and pay taxes - am I wrong? I know that a dorm doesn't count, but if you technically lived there all year, or at least paid for it, why would you not be considered in-state?

I think that is more like you moved their for school purposes and that most schools wont do IS since the main/potentially only reason you are there is for school. I feel like thats what I have been told by admissions before

 

[toro2013]

I think that is more like you moved their for school purposes and that most schools wont do IS since the main/potentially only reason you are there is for school. I feel like thats what I have been told by admissions before

They told us during our debriefing after interviews that we would hear the week of the 12th.

 

[youngkal]

They told us during our debriefing after interviews that we would hear the week of the 12th.

Think you meant to quote/tag @Vombatidae

 

[Teepster87]

I think that is more like you moved their for school purposes and that most schools wont do IS since the main/potentially only reason you are there is for school. I feel like thats what I have been told by admissions before

This is correct. One of the residency stipulations states that education can't be the reason for the move. Here's the direct quote:

B. Non-dependent Students.

A non-dependent student will be considered domiciled in Michigan if he/she has resided in Michigan for the twelve (12) months immediately preceding the first day of classes of the semester for which he/she is seeking in-state tuition status,3 and also meets either of the following criteria:

1. The student, or the student’s spouse, is employed in Michigan in a full-time, permanent job, and the employment is the primary purpose for the student's presence in Michigan; or
2. The student has not enrolled in any academic courses at any two-year or four-year degree granting institution during this twelve-month period.

@AnimalsAreBetter I'm not sure what the logistics of the process would be, but I could have seen you possibly getting IS status if you'd got married and moved here last August. It might be too late at this point since there's only like 7 months until next school year starts.

 

[Teepster87]

Also, for anyone interviewing tomorrow:

We're supposed to be getting a lot of snow overnight and through the day tomorrow. Please drive carefully and get here safely!

 

[Vombatidae]

@Teepster87 - you're full of valuable information! 🙂

 

[Aqua_girl87]

I’m interviewing tomorrow. Am both nervous and excited! Wish me luck! 🙂

 

[SPV926]

I’m interviewing tomorrow. Am both nervous and excited! Wish me luck! 🙂

Good luck!!!!

 

[toro2013]

I just got my admissions acceptance letter!! So excited, and can't wait to hear from you all too! Class of 2022!!

Do you remember what time you were notified. OOS should hear this week, just wondering when I should stock my email. Not that I’m not doing it anyways haha!

 

[JustPaws]

Do you remember what time you were notified. OOS should hear this week, just wondering when I should stock my email. Not that I’m not doing it anyways haha!

4:19 PM that day

 

[toro2013]

4:19 PM that day

Of course at the end of the day haha!