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cubsrule4e said:
Ok so since we are doing statistical analyses,

Odds of being a wolf in the prior game is 4/20 = 0.2
Odds of being a wolf this game 3/23 = 0.13

Thus, odds of being a wolf both games in a row = 0.2 x. 0.13 = .026 or 2.6%. Thats not impossible but pretty low. So I am going to village lean myself, sporty, and snowy.
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cubsrule4e said:
Well I can village confirm myself, but no one is going to take my word for it. So just putting it in terms theyre more likely to follow.
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I see why this originally caught attention. Village leans refer to how you feel about others... village leans can't be put onto another player and expect everyone to follow. So it is weird to village lean yourself because as was pointed out if you were village you'd count yourself as confirmed village or not even mention yourself.

Furthermore, I could see a noob wolf coming up with this strategy of "Oh I was a wolf last time so I'm clearly not likely to be a wolf this time"
...but?
You weren't RNG as wolf. You were subbed as a wolf, and there are no statistics for that.

HOWEVER. I don't like how obvious it seems, for D1.

cubsrule4e said:
Sorry, I was just bored (very slow morning) and excited to play my first *full* game from the beginning, so was getting chatty. I thought D1 was kind of a bunch of random votes, so didnt consider a retaliatory vote today to be that big a deal when I have no other suspicions yet.

Unlynch SOV
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D1 is random votes with a purpose of trying to find a direction to go to.
 
SARdoghandler said:
Ok but simply based on the lynch votes, that can be said of at least all but 4 players in this game. So why did you pick out those specific people to mention?
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Literally what I said, I forgot everyone else, I just was doing a quick read through and those names were fresh in my mind. For having a great memory I have a **** memory. I always have to read these forums at least twice to actually absorb whats going on.

Also I've played one game with MJ before (we were even chat buddies) and he spoke less the first few days than in this game so far, so I consider this active. lol
 
ziggyandjazzy said:
Really? You're going to lynch me before I can respond to you and say you won't be on later. Super suspicious and convenient
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Or I legitimately wanted to go play a game I've been waiting to come out since I was 12, and wanted to get my vote in early. Quite honestly the only reason I'm back is because its my brother's turn :yeahright:


bryndiana.jones said:
Mel is easy😉
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Melchizedek said:
Or I legitimately wanted to go play a game I've been waiting to come out since I was 12, and wanted to get my vote in early. Quite honestly the only reason I'm back is because its my brother's turn :yeahright:




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Are you sure you aren't still 12?
 
MSUcvmHOPE said:
GASP you have to take turns??? My boyfriend would probably push his sibling out the window before taking turns on a game that took over a decade to come out.

@SARdoghandler why Coffee?
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Yeah I'm curious also. I find it interesting she didn't answer either.
 
@genny do you have any other leans besides your "feels" lynch vote?
 
CoffeeQuestionMark said:
Are you sure you aren't still 12?
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As long as my leg is broken: I live with my parents, my mom makes all my food, and I don't have a job.

****...I might be 12....

I like my Ziggy Stardust (how has no one made this joke yet?) vote right now, and still think people should vote that way for aforementioned reasons.

I don't understand the cubs wagon or the barks wagon tbph, unless someone wants to lay out the thought process behind either one?
 
Melchizedek said:
Ziggy Stardust
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That joke was definitely made in her noob game

The barks lynch for me is based on the feeling that she was manufacturing sketch about MSU after the fact (she already had her vote on her for apparently joke reasons). The post itself also felt hedgey, as have a few of her other posts. Her responses after getting a couple votes also feel off from what I remember of her play in previous games.

Zig seems normal to me :shrug:
 
Melchizedek said:
As long as my leg is broken: I live with my parents, my mom makes all my food, and I don't have a job.

****...I might be 12....

I like my Ziggy Stardust (how has no one made this joke yet?) vote right now, and still think people should vote that way for aforementioned reasons.

I don't understand the cubs wagon or the barks wagon tbph, unless someone wants to lay out the thought process behind either one?
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Someone has made the joke. Didn't really see any aforementioned reasons, besides you thought it was weird that I noticed the capri thing. So???

I can't tell if you just don't like me or what. I got bad vibes from you before this game even started (petty reasons basically).

I already explained my barks thought process. Did you not read?
 
dolphin106258 said:
I’m not sure how I feel about these early Barks/Zig interaction with a little Dubz at the end. So I’m quoting it for myself and any others who’d like to see the conversation (lol). Not sure how I completely feel.
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Edit: I quoted this for links to more posts related to this discussion

Barkley13 said:
You strike me as being retaliatory
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I didn't see you follow up on this. What was your reason for calling it out?
ziggyandjazzy said:
When I first started playing, I didn't know this so I would be inclined to think it isn't wolfy in this case as cubs (what pronouns do you use?) would prob be more careful if wolf
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If cubs is new and didn't know about retaliatory voting how does that make him more careful?

ziggyandjazzy said:
I wasn't necessarily calling her wolfy. I was noticing a stark difference in how people responded to this vs when I RNG.

I decided not to RNG because it would look suspicious regardless of affiliation. Capri didn't. I find that interesting and don't know what to make of it or the lack of reaction

Really? You're going to lynch me before I can respond to you and say you won't be on later. Super suspicious and convenient
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ziggyandjazzy said:
She lynched MSU because she hasn't seen her for a while, then tried to find a reason this was legit (lol but I may be hypocritical as this is what I am also doing).
Her lack of response or banter back to my Lynch, maybe so as not to draw attention, idk. Seems weird to me.
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So many people haven't responded to lynch votes. People who jump to quickly to respond look... well, jumpy. What exactly is it that makes you think Barkley is being weird? I saw you mentioned her lack of response to you but I looked back and you didn't ask any specific questions that needed detailed responses.

Barkley13 said:
I think the one MSU post was weird
I want to see more from cubs because he's talking more so far but don't know what to make of it yet
I can see why people think capri might have be over justifying her vote but I thought it was more the product of being bored and looking for a fun way to pick a first vote
I think AM is village
A lot of people have only posted once or twice so it's hard to say on a lot of people
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What do you think of cubs now as you are voting for him.. do you think he is a wolf?

ziggyandjazzy said:
No, you said "when have I ever responded". And I said I don't think people have pushed a Lynch on you before so to me, that seems like a weird statement to make. And I asked if that was you response because I was being ironic that you claim you don't respond to them.

Yep. and you seem different this time, to me.
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Barkley was lynched in the noob game, yes? Seems odd you have forgotten this so soon.
 
CoffeeQuestionMark said:
Edit: I quoted this for links to more posts related to this discussion


I didn't see you follow up on this. What was your reason for calling it out?

If cubs is new and didn't know about retaliatory voting how does that make him more careful?




So many people haven't responded to lynch votes. People who jump to quickly to respond look... well, jumpy. What exactly is it that makes you think Barkley is being weird? I saw you mentioned her lack of response to you but I looked back and you didn't ask any specific questions that needed detailed responses.


What do you think of cubs now as you are voting for him.. do you think he is a wolf?


Barkley was lynched in the noob game, yes? Seems odd you have forgotten this so soon.
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Is the first question for me or dolphin? And no I'm not getting wolfy feelings from him at the moment but I voted there for self prez
 
Lynch Genny
Think her vote is safe-wagon.

@Barkley13 if you didn't have to self prez would you still be voting for me?
 
CoffeeQuestionMark said:
Edit: I quoted this for links to more posts related to this discussion


I didn't see you follow up on this. What was your reason for calling it out?

1. If cubs is new and didn't know about retaliatory voting how does that make him more careful?




2. So many people haven't responded to lynch votes. People who jump to quickly to respond look... well, jumpy. What exactly is it that makes you think Barkley is being weird? I saw you mentioned her lack of response to you but I looked back and you didn't ask any specific questions that needed detailed responses.


What do you think of cubs now as you are voting for him.. do you think he is a wolf?


3. Barkley was lynched in the noob game, yes? Seems odd you have forgotten this so soon.
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1. You did not track that properly. I said him being retaliatory is imo more indicative of noob than wolf. As a WOLF I think he would be more careful than he was with his vote.
2. I've outlined it several times. you can look back if you so choose.
3. I know she died at some point, idk how. I don't really keep track of those kinds of things, as noticeable in dead chat with other people where I have forgotten the roles other people had countless times. Don't really find it weird that I have "forgotten so soon" but I do find it weird you saying it like this.
 
PippyPony said:
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Dude, have you been living under a rock? I've been calling her that since her noob game.
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WildZoo said:
That joke was definitely made in her noob game
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Okay, my faith in y'all has been restored. I didn't pay much attention to the noob game after my noob got vig killed. grr.

ziggyandjazzy said:
Someone has made the joke. Didn't really see any aforementioned reasons, besides you thought it was weird that I noticed the capri thing. So???

I can't tell if you just don't like me or what. I got bad vibes from you before this game even started (petty reasons basically).

I already explained my barks thought process. Did you not read?
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It was the way you tried to get other people to call capri sketchy without doing it yourself.
You're super twitchy over one person calling for your head.
No need to make this personal.
I did read, I said I didn't understand it and was inviting people to add anything they haven't said, or to reiterate why they think its a good lynch.
Getting reasons out there helps me evaluate arguments.
 
D1 Puppy Slope Skiing Tally

Killerleaf () -
grebes () -
Mel (2) - Skilary, dolphin
AM (1) - capri
MSU () -
Capri (1) - Grebes
WZ (2) - killerleaf, dina
Barks (5) - Ziggy, WZ, mutts, snowy, cubs
Cubs (5) - SOV, petmoosy, MJ, genny, Barks
SOV () -
Zigjaz (1) - Mel
Sporty () -
Coffee (2) - SAR, sporty
Snowy (1) - AM
genny (1) - msu

21/23 voting

Tie!

@cubsrule4e and @Barkley13 are in the lead!

Lynch close at 10pm Eastern (~ 1 hour)

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ziggyandjazzy said:
1. You did not track that properly. I said him being retaliatory is imo more indicative of noob than wolf. As a WOLF I think he would be more careful than he was with his vote.
2. I've outlined it several times. you can look back if you so choose.
3. I know she died at some point, idk how. I don't really keep track of those kinds of things, as noticeable in dead chat with other people where I have forgotten the roles other people had countless times. Don't really find it weird that I have "forgotten so soon" but I do find it weird you saying it like this.
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1. No I did. That's what I mean. He IS a noob, either way, so if he doesn't know one way or another, how is leaning less wolf than simply more noob?
2. I have gone back and is why I quoted dolphin's post. There is nothing other than "she seems different", didn't respond to your post (which didn't require much of a response), or tried to find a legit reason to vote MSU, which is a fair thing to do, and as you said you were doing the same thing.

What do you think of her more recent posts?
3. so be it
 
Melchizedek said:
Okay, my faith in y'all has been restored. I didn't pay much attention to the noob game after my noob got vig killed. grr.


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It was the way you tried to get other people to call capri sketchy without doing it yourself.
You're super twitchy over one person calling for your head.
No need to make this personal.
I did read, I said I didn't understand it and was inviting people to add anything they haven't said, or to reiterate why they think its a good lynch.
Getting reasons out there helps me evaluate arguments.
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Do you want me to try and add reasons or do you want others voting for her? I'm probably super twitchy because I am legit ass stressed out of my mind irl atm.

I'm not trying to make it personal. (Just more irritated you don't like vegetarians and don't like my comments 🤔)
 
Noobs act like noobs. They do a lot of stupid things.,..as wolves or villagers. A noob with an important role is dangerous cause they screw up, and a noob as a wolf usually makes noob mistakes. The biggest is being super defensive...cause they feel threatened as a wolf.

Saying “wouldn’t do that as a wolf “ is useless cause they would. They do.
And having a veteran wolf in the pack rarely helps as noobs are just never house trained very well.

anyways, that diatribe is in response to a few of the comments here that I am too tired and lazy to quote.

Cubs is probably not a wolf ...probably just a noob, but it still seems the best bet, no one else sticks out yet.
 
ziggyandjazzy said:
Someone has made the joke. Didn't really see any aforementioned reasons, besides you thought it was weird that I noticed the capri thing. So???

I can't tell if you just don't like me or what. I got bad vibes from you before this game even started (petty reasons basically).

I already explained my barks thought process. Did you not read?
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ziggyandjazzy said:
1. You did not track that properly. I said him being retaliatory is imo more indicative of noob than wolf. As a WOLF I think he would be more careful than he was with his vote.
2. I've outlined it several times. you can look back if you so choose.
3. I know she died at some point, idk how. I don't really keep track of those kinds of things, as noticeable in dead chat with other people where I have forgotten the roles other people had countless times. Don't really find it weird that I have "forgotten so soon" but I do find it weird you saying it like this.
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It seems to me that you're really defensive and trying to throw shade onto multiple people
 
ziggyandjazzy said:
Do you want me to try and add reasons or do you want others voting for her? I'm probably super twitchy because I am legit ass stressed out of my mind irl atm.

I'm not trying to make it personal. (Just more irritated you don't like vegetarians and don't like my comments 🤔)
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Mel disliking vegetarians is news to me. Guess I'll have to dismantle the entire sketch masondry. It was all for naught. Our differences are too powerful. Goodbye cruel world. My life is a lie!

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CoffeeQuestionMark said:
1. No I did. That's what I mean. He IS a noob, either way, so if he doesn't know one way or another, how is leaning less wolf than simply more noob?
2. I have gone back and is why I quoted dolphin's post. There is nothing other than "she seems different", didn't respond to your post (which didn't require much of a response), or tried to find a legit reason to vote MSU, which is a fair thing to do, and as you said you were doing the same thing.

What do you think of her more recent posts?
3. so be it
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1. I would tend to think as a noob wolf one would avoid retaliation votes. But idk really. It didn't come off wolfy to me, and I found it weird that barks said it was retaliatory and didn't do anything about it
2. If you don't agree with it, don't agree. You don't have to follow. You going to vote btw? or just criticize other people's feels?

I don't really see much that she has posted of substance beyond my initial feels/anything to make me feel differently. She says she is voting for cubs for "self prez". Cubs doesn't seem wolf to me so I don't like it. Haven't seen any valuable reads really.
 
StartingoverVet said:
Noobs act like noobs. They do a lot of stupid things.,..as wolves or villagers. A noob with an important role is dangerous cause they screw up, and a noob as a wolf usually makes noob mistakes. The biggest is being super defensive...cause they feel threatened as a wolf.

Saying “wouldn’t do that as a wolf “ is useless cause they would. They do.
And having a veteran wolf in the pack rarely helps as noobs are just never house trained very well.

anyways, that diatribe is in response to a few of the comments here that I am too tired and lazy to quote.

Cubs is probably not a wolf ...probably just a noob, but it still seems the best bet, no one else sticks out yet.
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No one you've played with before, for years, stick out more than a noob?
 
ziggyandjazzy said:
Do you want me to try and add reasons or do you want others voting for her? I'm probably super twitchy because I am legit ass stressed out of my mind irl atm.

I'm not trying to make it personal. (Just more irritated you don't like vegetarians and don't like my comments 🤔)
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For real, careful about WW while stressed. Maybe not everyone experiences it but I got obsessive during interviews last year (then blew the interviews), it has haunted my sleep, and affected work.

If you feel like this is happening, just remember it's just a game and irl comes first.
 
ziggyandjazzy said:
1. I would tend to think as a noob wolf one would avoid retaliation votes. But idk really. It didn't come off wolfy to me, and I found it weird that barks said it was retaliatory and didn't do anything about it
2. If you don't agree with it, don't agree. You don't have to follow. You going to vote btw? or just criticize other people's feels?

I don't really see much that she has posted of substance beyond my initial feels/anything to make me feel differently. She says she is voting for cubs for "self prez". Cubs doesn't seem wolf to me so I don't like it. Haven't seen any valuable reads really.
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You don't like my self prez? Would you rather I just let myself be lynched without a fight?
 
Barkley13 said:
It seems to me that you're really defensive and trying to throw shade onto multiple people
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I'm not "throwing shade" I'm trying to wolf hunt. Nice try though.

I am not suspicious of Mel as wolf atm, hence me not voting there. I understand his concerns of me and why he would feel comfortable with a vote there.
 
CoffeeQuestionMark said:
For real, careful about WW while stressed. Maybe not everyone experiences it but I got obsessive during interviews last year (then blew the interviews), it has haunted my sleep, and affected work.

If you feel like this is happening, just remember it's just a game and irl comes first.
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Good reminder, ty. I feel more comfortable playing this one as it is supposed to be more basic (but who knows). I got super obsessive over winter break lol.
 
ziggyandjazzy said:
1. I would tend to think as a noob wolf one would avoid retaliation votes. But idk really. It didn't come off wolfy to me, and I found it weird that barks said it was retaliatory and didn't do anything about it
2. If you don't agree with it, don't agree. You don't have to follow. You going to vote btw? or just criticize other people's feels?

I don't really see much that she has posted of substance beyond my initial feels/anything to make me feel differently. She says she is voting for cubs for "self prez". Cubs doesn't seem wolf to me so I don't like it. Haven't seen any valuable reads really.
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I do plan on voting and I'm working through that right now.
 
Barkley13 said:
You don't like my self prez? Would you rather I just let myself be lynched without a fight?
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You're self prezz-ing without actually try to go towards someone you think may be a wolf. I haven't really seen reads from you besides that you think MSU, cubs, and mpm aren't suspicious.
 
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