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Right, because you don't know my role, but I do. It makes sense one would be suspicious of other people who are voting to Lynch someone you know is a villager.
It doesn't though. Voting for villagers is not, on its own, a wolfy trait. Other villagers do not know that you are village, any more than you know that they are village.

I mean, in my case someone voting for me is more often an indicator that they are a villager. Look at all the village lynches last game that had a bunch of villagers on them.
 
Cray a few games ago: I am suspicious of everyone who is suspicious of me
Everyone else: *crickets*

Zigs: I am suspicious of people voting for me for obvious reasons
Everyone else: wow you're so wrong I want to tell you right now how wrong you are one more time just so you know you have been wrong about everything in this game so far.

Right so... back to non-participation
+pissed+
 
Is there a way to organize these into wolf, village, or neutral leans? I'm not sure what the context of terms like tinfoily, WIFOM possibility, and look into is.

Wolfy - MJ, SOV
Not sure - Mel, mpm,
Village-ish - Dina

Look into = ISO for more info bc their posts didn't stand out

My initial morning feels still stand so lynch capri for strongest feels

Some quick feels on players I didn’t mention

Dina seems to be helpful and participating could lean either way

MJ lack of activity = norm? But also contributed “Im a villager” and raised no suspicion = sus imo

Mel tinfoily for zj lynch

Mpm interaction w Barks feels weird - could be w/v or v/v confusing each other

SOV a bit of a contradiction making a vote on 1 comment when there’s been plenty of activity to make reads from - are they not caught up bc they’re a wolf - WIFOM possibility

Not sure about killer, AM, WZ

I want to look into SAR, Snowy, Skim, Sporty (the S’s are laying low-ish = all S named wolf pack? jk )

also excuse typos please


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Do you differentiate between pressure votes and suspecting someone?
I do, but I'm assuming you dont?
I interpret a pressure vote as somewhere you may not stay or could be swayed otherwise based on future information
Then suspecting someone is where my strongest feels are.

Are you meaning she is making herself sound sketchy?
No trying to make me seem sketchy

Eh in that perhaps for a last minute waffle, I agree. Eh in that it isn't worthwhile to pursue, I disagree, and I definitely would like to see more pressure there to get her to talk.

Not really and it wasn't a pressure vote, I explained my reasons. AM and dolphin showed interest but didn't agree it was enough to lynch there... same reason I didnt vote snowy. I left my vote there despite that to keep the pressure and didnt think it was a good idea for dolphin to switch when she wasn't feeling strongly when it was fairly close to deadline by the time she visited it.

I started to type this at lunch then got interrupted by a meeting.


It wasn't a pressure vote but you stayed on my lynch "to keep the pressure." You're contradicting yourself.
 
Unofficial D2 Everyone's Frozen but Still Have to Work Tally

capri (5)
- grebes, killerleaf, zigzag, Snowy, mutts
snowy (4) - am, WZ, dolphin, genny
zigjaz (3) - skim, SOV, mpm
dubz () -
mpm (1) - Dina
mutts (1) - Barks
grebes () -
Coffee? (1) - Sporty
SOV (1) - Mel

16/21

Missing: @SARdoghandler @CoffeeQuestionMark @capri1722 @Mad Jack @MSUcvmHOPE

capri you are in the lead!

Deadline 10pm est (~1.5 hours)

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Wolfy - MJ, SOV
Not sure - Mel, mpm,
Village-ish - Dina

Look into = ISO for more info bc their posts didn't stand out

My initial morning feels still stand so lynch capri for strongest feels





I do, but I'm assuming you dont?
I interpret a pressure vote as somewhere you may not stay or could be swayed otherwise based on future information
Then suspecting someone is where my strongest feels are.


No trying to make me seem sketchy






It wasn't a pressure vote but you stayed on my lynch "to keep the pressure." You're contradicting yourself.
Why do you have MJ as wolfy?
 
Right so... back to non-participation
+pissed+
She pulled her vote off barks to coffee, claiming she saw cubs as village yet she actually put him in the lead by doing so. Voting for coffee for sporty's reasons (which I don't remember being that strong). Then following you to snowy. Then voting for me when genny suggested it. Didn't seem to have her own ideas, just went with what other people were doing. She also questioned me about my barks vote and when I said why I was still voting there, she said she agreed.
I agree with a lot of what's in this^ except for the first sentence. I kind of like a snowy, dubz, mutts pack right now. What do you think?
 
Not interested in lynching capri. my current theory about last night's kill was to make capri easily lynchable today.

Do you feel better about mpm & grebes today too?
Your Snowy vote feels random based on what you posted below

AM, WZ, and mel aren't setting off any alarm bells yet. SOV seems fine. Snowy seems to have grown a pair, and I like it. Dolphin and Barkley seem villagery enough.

I don't like what I've heard from petmoose, grebes, or capri so far. And Pip is definitely a wolf.
 
Cray a few games ago: I am suspicious of everyone who is suspicious of me
Everyone else: *crickets*

Zigs: I am suspicious of people voting for me for obvious reasons
Everyone else: wow you're so wrong I want to tell you right now how wrong you are one more time just so you know you have been wrong about everything in this game so far.

Right so... back to non-participation
+pissed+

I'm pretty sure Cray has been working on overcoming that knee-jerk response because she's seen that, more often than not, villagers will vote for villagers. You can look at older games and see that it's something always been repeated. What do your reads look like right now?
 
I do, but I'm assuming you dont?
I interpret a pressure vote as somewhere you may not stay or could be swayed otherwise based on future information
Then suspecting someone is where my strongest feels are.
I see no point in pressuring a village lean so I do not differentiate between the two.
 
Cray a few games ago: I am suspicious of everyone who is suspicious of me
Everyone else: *crickets*

Zigs: I am suspicious of people voting for me for obvious reasons
Everyone else: wow you're so wrong I want to tell you right now how wrong you are one more time just so you know you have been wrong about everything in this game so far.

Right so... back to non-participation
+pissed+
You don't have the context of people telling cray multiple times over the course of many games that it's a bad way to wolf hunt. If no one said anything to her about it a few games ago, it's because at this point that's just cray being cray and it's something she can choose to work on or not.

You really have got to stop taking everything so personally. No one is trying to attack you here.
 
Why do you have MJ as wolfy?

All his posts have been fluff excluding his lynch vote for cubs. Shouting village with no reads is a red flag for me

I'm a sentient stack of chicken McNuggets pretending to be a human being

Also I'm a vanillager

Honey mustard

You know, I go there a lot but I haven't had it because I usually get sandwiches instead of nuggets


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lynch grebes

mainly for her reads looking like copies of what other people have already mentioned about suspicion. Zigs is reading villager to me. I can see where the Capri votes are coming from but would like actual thoughts on the game before I decide to switch to her or not. @capri1722 what are your thoughts on who is wolfiest?
Lynch Zigjaz
I mean I kinda wanted to do that anyway but I think that's the appropriate self prez vote for now. Might change if I don't have a self prez reason to stay. Might.
In general I have feels on Zigjaz, Mel, and Dolphin but nothing more solid than that.
And as I said, I want something of some kind of analysis instead of fluff before I make a decision on capri but she's not top on my list (I feel like she's wolfed before and wouldn't only post fluff).
This might be a "things I notice that nobody else does because I blow it out of proportion" thing but I think I try harder as a wolf and have a more DGAF attitude as village, hence the math discussion and abundance's of ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I also have some trolling tendencies in general so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ shrug it up
It's nice to have that as a shortcut on my phone
virtually no reason besides that she [Capri] has votes on her.
:eyebrow: wtf
No I don’t like Capri or Zigzag lynches and so I was trying to look at other options and saw Barks vote. So I wanted to push for more info but I am not seeing a lot to vote there. I don’t hate the snowy lynch it’s just hard for me to read her completely.
This gave me feels
Actually, I kinda reverse my previous statement. Capri was pretty absent for Dogs but she did actually post analysis when she was around, sometimes pretty extensively. Idk, draw your own conclusions.

Capri in Dogs ISO
^^^ I try harder as a wolf
 
I see no point in pressuring a village lean so I do not differentiate between the two.

That makes sense. I don’t trust anyone in these games so my village leans still have potential to become wolf leans


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Lynch Zigjaz
I mean I kinda wanted to do that anyway but I think that's the appropriate self prez vote for now. Might change if I don't have a self prez reason to stay. Might.
In general I have feels on Zigjaz, Mel, and Dolphin but nothing more solid than that.

This might be a "things I notice that nobody else does because I blow it out of proportion" thing but I think I try harder as a wolf and have a more DGAF attitude as village, hence the math discussion and abundance's of ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I also have some trolling tendencies in general so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ shrug it up
It's nice to have that as a shortcut on my phone

:eyebrow: wtf

This gave me feels

^^^ I try harder as a wolf
Why not snowy?
 
Back home. These are what caught my eye today.
I use this Line all the time as a wolf. I didnt need to read the thread carefully when I was a wolf, so needed an excuse not to follow up on leads.

Lynch ziggy
I feel like it's a circle because to me this reason comes off of as HIM not reading the thread carefully either, which he says he does as a wolf. So agree with @Melchizedek here.

1) Hello friends I just finished my OSCE day and while I think I passed (yay!) I am mentally dead so not caught up more than skimming on thread
b) I'm probably also not going to be around much tonight to recuperate, I'll get back on to place a lynch vote when I get home
!%) Your list numberings are boring and you should feel bad
Cheese) OSCE's suck and my class is imploding
What in the world does this even mean?

Also, tbh, I was feeling lazy/was in a rush because I had a date with my bf I had to scurry off to! Irl stuff- will plan better next time haha

I was on the cubs lynch really early. I think only one other person was there before me. Its not really like I hopped on anything. Also, I did explain why I was lynching him in previous posts, the one you quoted was me just following up to say that my opinions hadn't really changed in light of the new arguments that were happening about barks or whatever. I explained my reasoning here:

Okay, so here I mostly meant that I felt sketched out by the way cubs put himself on the list for village. "us villagers" and such. It pinged my wolfdar, and I didn't like it, so I latched onto it. Yes he could have been just noob, which he ended up being, but he also could have been noob woof who was feeling gutsy, then later had a packmate yell at him about being retaliatory. WIFOM... except now we know I was wrong, which sucks, but I also couldn't have known beforehand.

I didn't like the barkley lynch though, so I stayed away from it. I also know that there were other individuals that I could lynch, but didn't think I could be persuasive enough at that point (like 8pm or whenever I came back) to swing things another way. And I still liked cubs as a lynch...So yeah, hindsight is 20/20, but also if I were to have left the cubs lynch it would have been a tie (at least at the end... I don't know if it would have been when I was around), which I hate the idea of and wouldn't feel comfortable making.

My current feels lie with ziggy. Also nervous because I don't want to lynch another noob and be wrong again, but ...

Zig brought up how we shouldn't trust barkley and they could be lying (yes, they could)--- buttt I for one didn't even notice barks' claim till you brought it up (maybe I'm naive, prolly) so I thought it was weird how you put it out in the open... I'm hesitant to even bring it up again for this purpose


Zig is always kind of salty. Not necessarily in a bad way, but is easily riled up, as we have seen. I think this snappy behavior we see from her is NAI, but I also can't be sure because I haven't seen her wolf. I don't know how she would react.

She seems a little touchy and over-reactive about how, "I knew it! I knew cubs was village! Why didn't you all listen?" (paraphrasing here) Frankly, I didn't know that cubs was village. That's why.

-- (for the record cubs, you are fun to play with and should come back sometime!)



I am also conscious of how voting for a noob is an easy lynch, so I am second guessing myself for that too, especially after last time (sorry cubs). But people just don't know what to think of us. The veterans may have seen us play like twice, but not really enough for them to be fully comfortable judging our behavior. Sometimes they default to -noobs are automatically sketch. Lol, but I'm more of a noob than ziggy and I think everyone else left, so I do see where you are coming from a little zig.

I also think genny is probably village, feeling good about barks and mel and dina too. I want to hear more from coffee and killer and msu.
So that is my little iso I've been working on. Thoughts?
Sorry for the long post dump lol.
I'll place my vote, but give time to defend.
Lynch Ziggy
This seems very well thought out. Since you mentioned not wanting to lynch a noob, though, I'm interested to know your thoughts on the other candidates... e.g. capri and snowy, who are experienced?

Why are you so set on not mutts?
This pinged as looking for a different kind of answer than dolphin provided, like in a fishing kind of way.


Okay.

Wolfiest: grebes, mutts, moose. On the wolfier side: coffee and genny. And as I said, I want something of some kind of analysis instead of fluff before I make a decision on capri but she's not top on my list (I feel like she's wolfed before and wouldn't only post fluff).

Wow. Touchy much?



No. Relax it's one vote. When you start posting more thoughts, I'll decide more how I feel.



Mutts mainly for her beginning game comments. Also her list of reads yesterday and today are interesting to me.

genny is just pinging my feelsdar
Me. Okay well until she posts something of content then, I'm comfortable with

unlynch grebes
lynch capri

Why the switch here? You didn't mention capri in your wolfy feels. You told grebes you would re-evaluate after she posted, but she said nothing inbetween there and when you switched.
 
Lynch Zigjaz
I mean I kinda wanted to do that anyway but I think that's the appropriate self prez vote for now. Might change if I don't have a self prez reason to stay. Might.
In general I have feels on Zigjaz, Mel, and Dolphin but nothing more solid than that.

There's still over an hour until close. What's the reason for Mel?
 
~*~*~*~*~

Hey guys remember when I laughed at the national weather service an hour ago? Don't laugh at the national weather service. I just (barely) drove to work in what appeared to be an actual snow cyclone. Never seen anything like that in my life, and I have lived in New England for almost 30 years.

And now I'm just sad I didn't bring my skis. Thought about tossing them in the car this morning.
~*~*~*~*~

***********
I clearly suck at RPGs, but what I can tell you as fact is that whatever the meteorologists predict, push it back 4-12 hours, every single time. Friday they say it’s gonna rain Saturday at noon? Nope! You’re good until at least dinner time, if not Sunday!
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There's still over an hour until close. What's the reason for Mel?
True but I have two quizzes tomorrow and I'm with two friends celebrating one of their birthdays and trying to study so I'm trying not to spend a lot of time on SDN right now.
Mel is nothing but feels and possibly bias/pre-tunnel.
 
True but I have two quizzes tomorrow and I'm with two friends celebrating one of their birthdays and trying to study so I'm trying not to spend a lot of time on SDN right now.
Mel is nothing but feels and possibly bias/pre-tunnel.

Feels on what? Pre-tunnel?
 
unlynch capri
Lynch snowy


I feel like I'm in better company there
Will respond after I take a 20-30 min quiz
 
Sorry guys I had a long day but will be on more the rest of the week assuming I make it.

What does either/both barks lynch

I think there is one wolf on either barks or Cubs lynch or there could be a wolf on each lynch

@WildZoo How do you feel about Snowy, Dolphin, and MPM?

@Dinashadow can you give your thoughts on Skimble, dubz, and Sporty?

@Animal Midwife who do you potentially see being snowy's packmates?

Skim- Neutral - she is mostly just active in dropping her votes but she at least explained Ziggy vote.

Dubz - today I'm leaning village. She's been active in chat and seems to be wolf hunting

Sporty - I haven't seen a lot of posts from her. She was like this in the last game and was wolfing so I could possible see her as a wolf again.

Any particular reason you asked?
 
Wolfy - MJ, SOV
Not sure - Mel, mpm,
Village-ish - Dina

Look into = ISO for more info bc their posts didn't stand out

My initial morning feels still stand so lynch capri for strongest feels





I do, but I'm assuming you dont?
I interpret a pressure vote as somewhere you may not stay or could be swayed otherwise based on future information
Then suspecting someone is where my strongest feels are.


No trying to make me seem sketchy






It wasn't a pressure vote but you stayed on my lynch "to keep the pressure." You're contradicting yourself.
I think you misunderstand what a pressure vote is. A pressure vote is the intention of voting in order to get someone to participate but you don't necessarily want to see them lynched.

But that wasn't my intention, I voted you last night because I wanted to vote you, and wanted the discussion of that vote to continue into today (Hence what I meant by pressure)
 
D2 Everyone's Frozen but Still Have to Work Tally

capri (4) - grebes, killerleaf, Snowy, mutts
snowy (7) - am, WZ, dolphin, genny, capri, zigjaz, koffee
zigjaz (3) - skim, SOV, mpm
dubz () -
mpm (1) - Dina
mutts (1) - Barks
grebes () -
Coffee? (1) - Sporty
SOV (1) - Mel

18/21

Missing: sar, MJ, msu

snowy is in the lead!

Deadline 10pm est (~1 hour)

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Actually, I kinda reverse my previous statement. Capri was pretty absent for Dogs but she did actually post analysis when she was around, sometimes pretty extensively. Idk, draw your own conclusions.

Capri in Dogs ISO

oh. Well too late now my vote is for self preservation

Why the switch here? You didn't mention capri in your wolfy feels. You told grebes you would re-evaluate after she posted, but she said nothing inbetween there and when you switched.

I said I needed to hear analysis from her. I didn't find her especially wolfy. Then dubz mentioned that's how she posted when she was a wolf last game. And since capri hadn't responded, I thought it would add pressure for her to give reads. Then dubz said she took it back. And now I'm back to capri doesn't seem especially wolfy. But I'm also now in the lead so I'm keeping my vote there for self prez (vote snowy for prez 😉)
 
I mean you shouldn't lynch me because I'm village. But I'm not overly concerned if you do because I really should study for midterms. This is all the defense ya'll get 😛
 
I mean you shouldn't lynch me because I'm village. But I'm not overly concerned if you do because I really should study for midterms. This is all the defense ya'll get 😛

Who should we be lynching instead?
 
Who should we be lynching instead?

Well I don't really like zigs or capri. As I said could go for mpm, grebes, genny, mutts not particularly in that order.

rn I'm reading dolphin, MSU, and zigs as village. Slightly leaning wz village, but don't want to trust her that much this early.
 
If you want my reads on everyone else. They are very weak as I haven't had time to iso everyone.

So very weak mind you:

village lean (AM, dina, SOV, mel, mj, killer, SAR)
wolf lean (skim, capri, sporty, coffee)
 
Wolfy - MJ, SOV
Not sure - Mel, mpm,
Village-ish - Dina

Look into = ISO for more info bc their posts didn't stand out

My initial morning feels still stand so lynch capri for strongest feels





I do, but I'm assuming you dont?
I interpret a pressure vote as somewhere you may not stay or could be swayed otherwise based on future information
Then suspecting someone is where my strongest feels are.


No trying to make me seem sketchy






It wasn't a pressure vote but you stayed on my lynch "to keep the pressure." You're contradicting yourself.
What makes you think MJ is wolfy?
 
Unofficial D2 Everyone's Frozen but Still Have to Work Tally

capri (4) - grebes, killerleaf, Snowy, mutts
snowy (6) - WZ, dolphin, genny, capri, zigjaz, koffee
zigjaz (3) - skim, SOV, mpm
dubz () -
mpm (1) - Dina
mutts (1) - Barks
grebes () -
Coffee? (1) - Sporty
SOV (2) - Mel, AM

18/21

Missing: sar, MJ, msu

snowy is in the lead!

Deadline 10pm est (~45 minutes)

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No, I don't feel any better about those two. What part of what I wrote about Snowy is inconsistent with my current vote?

I didnt read that initial post as Snowy being high on your sketch list which seemed off since you didnt vote for the other two

She's been active in chat and seems to be wolf hunting

Wolf Chat? Likely a reach but saying chat and meaning thread makes me twitchy

I think you misunderstand what a pressure vote is. A pressure vote is the intention of voting in order to get someone to participate but you don't necessarily want to see them lynched.

But that wasn't my intention, I voted you last night because I wanted to vote you, and wanted the discussion of that vote to continue into today (Hence what I meant by pressure)

No in my reply to AM that is how I define a pressure vote - maybe worded a bit differently. AM feels differently.

You were using the word pressure with out including that you werr trying to pressure discussion from others not me. Thats where I misunderstood you. My bad

oh. Well too late now my vote is for self preservation



I said I needed to hear analysis from her. I didn't find her especially wolfy. Then dubz mentioned that's how she posted when she was a wolf last game. And since capri hadn't responded, I thought it would add pressure for her to give reads. Then dubz said she took it back. And now I'm back to capri doesn't seem especially wolfy. But I'm also now in the lead so I'm keeping my vote there for self prez (vote snowy for prez 😉)

I don't believe you missed this and that's a weak defense. Wolf giving up?

I'll stick with capri for now

I mean you shouldn't lynch me because I'm village. But I'm not overly concerned if you do because I really should study for midterms. This is all the defense ya'll get 😛
 
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