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Seems like Tufts is usually compared to other exceptional mid and top tier NE programs to which those applicants typically would also apply.
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Seems like Tufts is usually compared to other exceptional mid and top tier NE programs to which those applicants typically would also apply.
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This is ridiculous. Compare Stanford to a place which would have similar West Coast/California preferences, UCSF (pulled directly from their websites, since 2011):
UCSF Cardiology: CPMC, Case Western, Cedars Sinai, Duke, Emory, MGH, Michigan, Northwestern, Stanford, UC Davis, UCSF, UTSW, WashU
Stanford Cardiology: BIDMC, B&W, CPMC, Cedars Sinai, Cleveland Clinic, Colorado, Columbia, Duke, Harbor UCLA, Hopkins, Minnesota, Northwestern, OHSU, Stanford, UC Davis, UC Irvine, UCLA, UCSD, UCSF, USC, WashU
UCSF Endocrinology: UCSF
Stanford Endocrinology: B&W, Stanford, UCSF, U Washington
UCSF Geriatrics: UCSF
Stanford Geriatrics: UCSF
UCSF GI: Columbia, Mt. Sinai, Penn, U Chicago, UCSD, UCSF
Stanford GI: Baylor, CPMC, GWU, MGH, Michigan, Penn, Stanford, Tufts, UC Davis, UCLA, UCSD, UCSF, U Washington, Vanderbilt
UCSF Hem/Onc: Dana Farber, Hopkins, MD Anderson, MSK, Stanford, UCSF, U Washington, WashU
Stanford Hem/Onc: City of Hope, Columbia, Fox Chase, Stanford, Temple, Tufts, UCLA, UCSD, UCSF, U Washington
UCSF ID: B&W/MGH, Hopkins, UCLA, UCSF, U Washington, Virginia
Stanford ID: B&W/MGH, Harbor UCLA, Stanford, UCSF, U Washington, Yale
UCSF Nephrology: B&W, UCSF, U Washington
Stanford Nephrology: Stanford
UCSF Palliative Care: MGH, UCSF
Stanford Palliative Care: Stanford
UCSF Pulmonary & Critical Care: Baylor, Colorado, Duke, Stanford, UCSF
Stanford Pulmonary & Critical Care: Penn, Stanford, UCSF, U Washington
UCSF Rheumatology: UCSF
Stanford Rheumatology: B&W, Hopkins, Stanford, UCLA, UCSF
Long time lurker. I am struggling with ranking programs, I am applying ABIM research track for a competitive speciality (GI). Trying to get some perspective on ranking “solid mid-tier” programs with a guaranteed fellowship before “top-tier” categorical programs. Is this a mistake?
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Please help me rank these IM programs - I know it's pretty much none high tier but I still want to pursue cardiology (ultimate goal is interventional cardiology). Which one of these will help me more? I don't care about location, pay, benefits, etc. I am green card holder, Caribbean Grad.
1. UPMC mercy, PA
2. Danbury Hosptial (One of 7 Yale consortiums), CT - not sure how close to Yale I could get.
3. Naples community hospital, FL - affiliate of Mayo Clinic
4. Mercy Catholic Medical Ctr, PA
5. Coney Island hospital, ny
6. NYU Lutheran IM categorical - now is NYU IM Brooklyn campus I believe. Will be switching to primary care only next yr.
7. Rochester regional health, Unity hospital, NY (Primary??)
8. RFUMS/ Chicago Medical School at McHenry (currently yr 2 I believe)
9. U Texas Rio Grande Valley, Harlingen, tx
Sincerely, help appreciated!!! I really need a lot of input from anyone who knows about these programs. Thanks so much.
Sorry for re-posting this again, but pleaseeeee if anyone could help. Thanks in advance!
1. UPMC mercy, PA
2. Danbury Hosptial (One of 7 Yale consortiums), CT - not sure how close to Yale I could get.
3. Naples community hospital, FL - affiliate of Mayo Clinic
4. Mercy Catholic Medical Ctr, PA
5. Coney Island hospital, ny
6. NYU Lutheran IM categorical - now is NYU IM Brooklyn campus I believe. Will be switching to primary care only next yr.
7. Rochester regional health, Unity hospital, NY (Primary??)
8. RFUMS/ Chicago Medical School at McHenry (currently yr 2 I believe)
9. U Texas Rio Grande Valley, Harlingen, tx
Sincerely, help appreciated!!! I really need a lot of input from anyone who knows about these programs. Thanks so much.
Sorry for re-posting this again, but pleaseeeee if anyone could help. Thanks in advance!
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I think so, but you are very vague.
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It depends. Are you more interested in matching at a "top tier" fellowship or research? Fast-tracking is a very pretty career path than applying for fellowship after three years of residency.
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you don't think the Stanford match is weaker/more regional compared to UCSF above? You also looked back 5 years when people matching want to know more recently. What do the last 3 years look like?
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If your interests are health policy and cards, the order you have them listed is the right one. This assumes you don't have a strong location preference. Health policy at Yale is particularly strong with CORE group, Krumholz, RWJ health scholars etc. as is Michigan. Feel free to message if you're interested in a contact who had similar interests. There is no significant prestige difference between these five. Take this from someone who has already applied and matched in cards, recently participated in the applicant selection process at both the IM and cardiology levels.
Hi all, please help me with ranking, my number one goal from residency is to get a strong education. I am going to be pursuing GI fellowship afterwards, all of the below programs have in house fellowships.
1 UIC- was really impressed with PD, residents, location, research etc
2 UConn- less impressed, but still a university program covering a poor city (hartford)
3 Albert Einstein Philadelphia- community program technically, but seems like a busy tertiary care center where residents must learn a great deal
4 Lahey Clinic- community program technically, similar to albert einstein, very strong GI fellowship
5 U Mississippi- large hospital providing care for poor state, PD seems very focused on good training for residents
6 U Nebraska- again impressed by PD, similar to UMiss
8SUNY- seems OK, less academic than nebraska or mississippi
9 Albany Medical cneter-- not very impressed by PD, seems to be in his own world,
10WVU- smaller university program, seems less academic than above
10 OUHSC- university program, didnt like oklahoma city
11 Mt sinai beth israel- the chair of medicine is a world renowned GI, however the program seems like a place for people who just want to live in manhattan, NYU is two blocks down and they must lose any interseting patients to NYU
12 Bridgeport- a lot of IMGs, seems like a busy place, nice PD
13 New york prebyterian queens- the university affillation with cornell is bogus, but i liked the program director and chair
14 mt sinai st luke's-- in manhattan, this program seems like a dumping ground for IMGs who want to live in manhattan, very unimpressed
1 UIC- was really impressed with PD, residents, location, research etc
2 UConn- less impressed, but still a university program covering a poor city (hartford)
3 Albert Einstein Philadelphia- community program technically, but seems like a busy tertiary care center where residents must learn a great deal
4 Lahey Clinic- community program technically, similar to albert einstein, very strong GI fellowship
5 U Mississippi- large hospital providing care for poor state, PD seems very focused on good training for residents
6 U Nebraska- again impressed by PD, similar to UMiss
8SUNY- seems OK, less academic than nebraska or mississippi
9 Albany Medical cneter-- not very impressed by PD, seems to be in his own world,
10WVU- smaller university program, seems less academic than above
10 OUHSC- university program, didnt like oklahoma city
11 Mt sinai beth israel- the chair of medicine is a world renowned GI, however the program seems like a place for people who just want to live in manhattan, NYU is two blocks down and they must lose any interseting patients to NYU
12 Bridgeport- a lot of IMGs, seems like a busy place, nice PD
13 New york prebyterian queens- the university affillation with cornell is bogus, but i liked the program director and chair
14 mt sinai st luke's-- in manhattan, this program seems like a dumping ground for IMGs who want to live in manhattan, very unimpressed
Beth israel is closing and whatever plan they claim to have is bogus. St. lukes roosevelt should be at least #11, NYPQ should be very low
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Depends on what you want
Vandy~UAB, UVA, Mayo, Wash U, Baylor, Yale, CCF.
While UVA may seem out of place, all of the people I have met who have trained there have been superstars.
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A few points:
Hopkins- tends to send between 15-20 people each year into cards programs and the top programs in the country. You will come out very well trained. Go with your gut though if you liked another program more.
UTSW seems pretty low on your list. I would put this near the top of your list in terms of quality of clinical training. It has a good reputation with PDs. people do tend to stay in the south because people who go to UTSW also tend to be from the south.
Charlottesville is regularly ranked one of the top cities in America. People who live there love it and most who have lived there would like to go back. But if you didn't get a great feel, don't rank it as highly.
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Look, Bayview isn't Mt Sinai but it does have a lot going for it. Hell, I ranked it higher than MGH way back in the day when I was applying (in all fairness I ranked a lot of places higher than MGH). Would you rather be at Bayview or Mt Sinai? If the answer is Bayview, keep it as is.
Look, Bayview isn't Mt Sinai but it does have a lot going for it. Hell, I ranked it higher than MGH way back in the day when I was applying (in all fairness I ranked a lot of places higher than MGH). Would you rather be at Bayview or Mt Sinai? If the answer is Bayview, keep it as is.
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I personally would not consider it such, especially for clinical training.
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You are trying to say University of Nebraska or Oklahoma has a comparable match list to CCF? This has got to be hyperbole. There is a trend on SDN of CCF bashing (some of it deserved and some of it I have participated in) but it is a much stronger program than many of the people who match there could ever hope to match. In the coming years, expect its rigor and reputation to increase for IM residency. For fellowships, especially cardiology, it will likely always remain one of the top programs in the world.
Also it tends to be the IMGs who don't match rather than the US grads...
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First, I would like to say I have a pretty favorable opinion about bayview. If you have done a search on SDN you have probably seen my posts on Bayview over the years. For full disclosure I did not do residency at Bayview but considered it during the interview trail.
Bayview is community and quasi-academic at the same time. While it is linked to JHH and all of its faculty have appointments at hopkins, It is not really Hopkins with a heart. At least in years past, the Bayview residents only really rotated through the onc center at JHH. Meanwhile, the JHH 2nd years would come to bayview to run the units as a senior in preparation for the JHH ICUs. The Bayview residents don't rotate through the O. Their didactics are arguably better than JHH's and their outpatient experience is pretty unquestionably better than JHHs. The Bayview match list is far and away the best community match list... and last I checked probably better than Marylands.
I wouldn't place too much credence in board pass rates as when I was in Baltimore the worst residency in the city had the best board pass rate (even better than JHH).
Compared to maryland it is a toss up. I go back and forth between thinking Bayview is better and thinking Maryland is better. It in part depends on what you are looking for. Nationally Maryland has a better reputation because it is better known.
With regard to what one of the other posts has said, Bayview has had a better match for the better part of the last decade when compared to maryland.
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For heme/onc it's clear, otherwise no.
For Cards: UCSF has Duke, MGH, Northwestern, but also has CPMC, UC Davis, Cedars Sinai... Stanford for Cards has B&W, Columbia, Duke, Hopkins, Northwestern, but also has CPMC, UC Davis, Cedars Sinai...
For GI: UCSF has Columbia, Penn, Mt. Sinai... Stanford has MGH, Michigan, Penn, Vanderbilt...
I don't have data on their last 3 years for the comparison.
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I agree with this. Although not perfect, it's certainly a robust, well-rounded. Their match list is very good and the Cards fellowship is the best clinical fellowship in the country. From what I gather they took 3 from the residency this year to the Cards fellowship.
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Case. But I'm biased. ;-)
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One needs to be careful in comparing the direct match lists of the 2 programs. One major confounding factor is the size of the programs. CCF takes 56 residents every year while Nebraska takes 18 categorical residents every year. A total of 40 people apply for fellowships from ccf while maybe 6-7 people apply for fellowship from Nebraska. In fact the total number of cardiology applicants from ccf exceed the entire class size of nebraska . So obviously the number of places seen in the match list would be disproportionately in favor of ccf. Just because of the sheer size difference between the 2 programs.
other thing. Lets look at the massive differences in the publication profile of the ccf residents who match in cards and gi , vs the nebraska resident who matches. Typically the CCF residents would have 6-20 publications during the residency. While a Nebraska resident matched Cards in U.Chicago without a single paper. CCF residents who don't have a single paper don't match in cards or GI.This is applicable for all community programs. Einstein Jakobi matched Cards in emory and vanderbilt . But would you rather rank them above university of maryland or nebraska which don't have such matches in recent times ? The point is that a resident from a community hospital can match top tier competitive fellowships if he works hard. While he ll not have to work so hard if he is in a university program .
CCF cardiology is perhaps the number 1 program in the country. And most other fellowships are top tier as well. But is the IM program so good ? My friends at both the clinics (CCF and mayo) tell me that autonomy is a big issue. There was a time it was even much worse. Like IM residents warehousing pre-operative CABG and aortic valve replacement patients. That particular issue has been addressed . But it still happens. Most IM attendings and subspecialty attendings run large services as if it was a private practice. The clinics are by design an amalgamation of multiple private practices . Hence commitment to teaching is very variable. Most patients are already investigated by the time a resident sees them. Where does one get to learn being a Doctor ?A very important factor in subspecialty matching is phone calls by faculty. The CCF stars won't call for all or most of their residents. They ll get a truck load of work out of you before calling or emailing on your behalf. Simply being a sincere clinically sound resident is not enough. While just being good doctor in your rotations and being interested in teaching and academic activity would get you the in house spot in most other programs and quite likely get them to call other places on your behalf. My whole point was that you can acheive similar results working much less hard at a university program. Also the experience is not well rounded. As residents only think of their submissions and abstracts all the time and can't focus on being well rounded physicians .
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Hi
I need help with these programs
West Virginia Uni
Albany Med
Mount Sinai St Lukes
Lenox Hill
I'm thinking Gastroenterology right now.
I need help with these programs
West Virginia Uni
Albany Med
Mount Sinai St Lukes
Lenox Hill
I'm thinking Gastroenterology right now.
Hi guys, I am really torn between these three programs and need your opinions on where to rank them:
Johns Hopkins Bayview
University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences
Einstein Phily
I plan to do Heme-Onc fellowship vs. GI fellowship after residency. Afterwards I plan to be an academic physician working in a university hospital, probably with equal or more emphasis on translational research than clinical work. I am looking for a residency program with great camaraderie and fellowship match outcomes. Location is not the main concern, but if I can choose I would love to live in a big city. That being said, camaraderie and fellowship match list are the most important for me.
To me, Bayview and UAMS have the best camaraderie and really make me feel happy to work here. Their fellowship match lists are both excellent. Yet it seems lots of Bayview residents went to Hopkins fellowships or other prestigious ones, whereas most of UAMS graduates went to university fellowship programs in the central United States, with one or two each year going to Mayo Clinic. Correct me if I am wrong though. I am not sure how high the prestige is for either program. Sometimes I feel UAMS is a university program; other times I feel Bayview bears the name of Hopkins.
Einstein phily is a community program so I kind of put it below the above two. However, it does have great fellowship outcomes, sometimes even slightly better than UAMS in certain years.
Would you guys give me some opinions? Thank you so much!
Johns Hopkins Bayview
University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences
Einstein Phily
I plan to do Heme-Onc fellowship vs. GI fellowship after residency. Afterwards I plan to be an academic physician working in a university hospital, probably with equal or more emphasis on translational research than clinical work. I am looking for a residency program with great camaraderie and fellowship match outcomes. Location is not the main concern, but if I can choose I would love to live in a big city. That being said, camaraderie and fellowship match list are the most important for me.
To me, Bayview and UAMS have the best camaraderie and really make me feel happy to work here. Their fellowship match lists are both excellent. Yet it seems lots of Bayview residents went to Hopkins fellowships or other prestigious ones, whereas most of UAMS graduates went to university fellowship programs in the central United States, with one or two each year going to Mayo Clinic. Correct me if I am wrong though. I am not sure how high the prestige is for either program. Sometimes I feel UAMS is a university program; other times I feel Bayview bears the name of Hopkins.
Einstein phily is a community program so I kind of put it below the above two. However, it does have great fellowship outcomes, sometimes even slightly better than UAMS in certain years.
Would you guys give me some opinions? Thank you so much!
I've mentioned this before, but 2017 match for bayview is beyond exceptional, if you look at 2016 and before, their match while still good is more typical and on par with mid tier university programs.
Hi guys, any advice would be great. I am undecided on whether I will subspecialize but if I do it would probably be GI. Only other aspect influencing my decision is I'm married and my wife is wanting babies sometime soon. I have narrowed it down to 2:
Mayo: Great reputation and research opportunities. I prefer small towns like Rochester. Has a more flexible schedule which would allow me more time at home if necessary. For this reason alone I would prefer Mayo. However, if going here would make a significant difference in terms of fellowship opportunities compared to UVA , then I can try to convince my wife to wait a little longer (i.e get her a puppy or a pet iguana).
UVA: In my opinion, the fellowship match list (GI) was more impressive than Mayo. Very collegial atmosphere and I was very pleased with their teaching confereces. I feel like this is an excellent yet sometimes underrated program.
So, I guess the question is whether there is any difference between the programs or will they both set me up for the future provided I dont slack and all that.
Mayo: Great reputation and research opportunities. I prefer small towns like Rochester. Has a more flexible schedule which would allow me more time at home if necessary. For this reason alone I would prefer Mayo. However, if going here would make a significant difference in terms of fellowship opportunities compared to UVA , then I can try to convince my wife to wait a little longer (i.e get her a puppy or a pet iguana).
UVA: In my opinion, the fellowship match list (GI) was more impressive than Mayo. Very collegial atmosphere and I was very pleased with their teaching confereces. I feel like this is an excellent yet sometimes underrated program.
So, I guess the question is whether there is any difference between the programs or will they both set me up for the future provided I dont slack and all that.
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Nebraska has had like 2 reasonable cardiology matches in 15 years. If you like nebraska go there, but it by no means is as good of a program. It is a low-mid (at best central mid tier) program while CCF is a mid-tier to upper-midtier program. Is CCF the same as MGH? No. But never in the same breath has anyone ever argued Nebraska and MGH together (until now)
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MCW vs Aurora Health Care? both in Milwaukee, one is a university program the other one is not. I am interested in cards and the cardiology fellowship at Aurora seems to be amazing.
Any comments? Should I rank Aurora higher than MCW because of that?
Any comments? Should I rank Aurora higher than MCW because of that?
Please help me rank these prelim programs. Looking for an easy year more than anything else.
- Advocate Illinois Masonic (Chicago)
- Flushing (Queens)
- Rush University (Chicago)
- SUNY Upstate (Syracuse)
- St Mary (Long Beach)
- Yale (New Haven)
- Lincoln Transitional Year (Bronx)
- UIC (Chicago)
Thank you
- Advocate Illinois Masonic (Chicago)
- Flushing (Queens)
- Rush University (Chicago)
- SUNY Upstate (Syracuse)
- St Mary (Long Beach)
- Yale (New Haven)
- Lincoln Transitional Year (Bronx)
- UIC (Chicago)
Thank you
Please help me rank. considering GI fellowship. Not crazy about academics but that could change. Prefer to live in big city/metropolitan area.
Jefferson- Strong GI fellowship match
Cedars-Sinai
UPMC- loved this program having trouble seeing myself in Pittsburg
Georgetown- wasn't crazy about program following interview but coming back around to it. Please thoughts on this program specifically GI fellowship opp
Hopkins - did not feel like i fit in well here. also wasn't crazy about baltimore
GW
Temple
Cooper
Tulane
Jefferson- Strong GI fellowship match
Cedars-Sinai
UPMC- loved this program having trouble seeing myself in Pittsburg
Georgetown- wasn't crazy about program following interview but coming back around to it. Please thoughts on this program specifically GI fellowship opp
Hopkins - did not feel like i fit in well here. also wasn't crazy about baltimore
GW
Temple
Cooper
Tulane
Thank you very much for your reply, JLC! So would you consider UAMS a mid-tier university program as well? Do you think I should put it above Bayview or below? I value good camaraderie, program training and prestige the most. It seems both have good training and camaraderie. I am unsure of the prestige and outcomes. Location is not my concerns.
Thanks a lot for prompt response!
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Hi all, really looking for some insight especially from those who have spent time in the Northeast or in LA because my SO's career is really only viable in these places. My future plans are between GI and Pulm/CC, so I am mainly focusing on preparing for GI in ranking due to its competitiveness.
1-2 NSLIJ or Monte
3. USC
4. NJMS
5. UCLA-Harbor
6. RWJ
7. Loyola
8. Michigan (I know this should be higher but location is a killer)
9. tOSU (same situation as 8)
10-11. CCF or Lenox Hill
I guess my real question how much will NSLIJ rhurt me in terms of fellowship placement compared to Monte. I personally really enjoyed Monte on IV day but NSLIJ has less scut, pays more, in slightly better location and seemed more chill in terms of schedule/lifestyle.
1-2 NSLIJ or Monte
3. USC
4. NJMS
5. UCLA-Harbor
6. RWJ
7. Loyola
8. Michigan (I know this should be higher but location is a killer)
9. tOSU (same situation as 8)
10-11. CCF or Lenox Hill
I guess my real question how much will NSLIJ rhurt me in terms of fellowship placement compared to Monte. I personally really enjoyed Monte on IV day but NSLIJ has less scut, pays more, in slightly better location and seemed more chill in terms of schedule/lifestyle.
@gutonc can you please weigh in on my list. Im from an NYC med school and want to get away for residency. I want to do hospital med/gi/hemeonc/pulmcrit
Rush/UIC/Jefferson/Temple/UMD
Loyola
RWJ
GW
Are Rush/UIC/Jefferson/Temple/UMD all on the same tier?
I am heavily leaning towards Chicago but I don't want to rule out returning east for fellowship. Will anyone of those programs exclude that option for me?
Rush/UIC/Jefferson/Temple/UMD
Loyola
RWJ
GW
Are Rush/UIC/Jefferson/Temple/UMD all on the same tier?
I am heavily leaning towards Chicago but I don't want to rule out returning east for fellowship. Will anyone of those programs exclude that option for me?
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If you're an excellent resident and do research then probably won't hurt you to put NSLIJ above monte, but, without a doubt the caliber of clinical training is notch above NSLIJ at monte and has a more "academic" feel. In addition pound for pound monte has a better fellowship match than NSLIJ
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If you're serious about fellowship Monte >>NSLIJ without a doubt. They're not even in the same league. From what I recall NSLIJ's matches were mostly internal whereas you'll have many more opportunities coming from Monte.
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You could literally throw darts at that list from a "prestige/opportunity" standpoint.
And are you sure you don't want to do cards/renal/rheum/endo?
Please give me advice on ranking (and why and how you are familiar with the program):
Applying to IM categorical. Looking largely for best education and most career opportunities. Totally undecided between primary care, hospitalist, or any of the subspecialties/fellowships. Want to keep options open in regard to both career and location.
WashU
Brown, RI
U of Wisconsin
U of Vermont
U of Iowa
Applying to IM categorical. Looking largely for best education and most career opportunities. Totally undecided between primary care, hospitalist, or any of the subspecialties/fellowships. Want to keep options open in regard to both career and location.
WashU
Brown, RI
U of Wisconsin
U of Vermont
U of Iowa
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I would put Iowa above Vermont and Wisconsin above Brown.
Ranking advice appreciated- these aren't my top 3 programs but I have to order the rest of my list somehow. I'm most strongly leaning towards infectious disease but also want generally strong clinical training and research availability. Location is not a huge factor, although I'd prefer to live in a city or suburb (read: I'm worried I'll die cold and alone if I end up in Rochester despite otherwise really liking Mayo). In no particular order:
- Michigan
- UTSW
- Mayo
- NYU
- UNC
- Beth Israel
- Yale
- UPMC
- UAB
All categorical except UPMC which is Global Health track and categorical
Thanks so much!
- Michigan
- UTSW
- Mayo
- NYU
- UNC
- Beth Israel
- Yale
- UPMC
- UAB
All categorical except UPMC which is Global Health track and categorical
Thanks so much!
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I mean, if you really want to do ID, all of these programs will be great. You'll match well from all of them to ID.
You know, provided you don't literally spit on a fellowship PD.
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I think, even then, that you'd match well
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