Official Rank List Help Thread 2010-2011

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Vandy's an awesome program...but if you're happy with the rest of your list then let it be. I would go (strong program, GREAT PD, in house onc is strong) but I'm biased toward the South.

Would say Mich, UTSW and NW set you up best for onc, with OHSU/UCSD/Colorado also being strong possibilities. You won't go lower than six, likely...

I can't stand the South but would still go to the Vandy interview. You never know if a program is going to completely blow your mind.
 
Okay, this is my preliminary rank list. I ranked Baylor last not because I hate it. It's a great program. I just want to get out of Texas for a few years. Let me know if you see anything that abhors you.

1. Mt Sinai Hospital-NY
2. NYU School Of Medicine
3. UCLA Medical Center-CA
4. UC San Diego Med Ctr-CA
5. Northwestern McGaw/NMH/VA-IL
6. U Michigan Hosps-Ann Arbor
7. Vanderbilt Univ Med Ctr-TN
8. Barnes-Jewish Hosp-MO
9. UPMC Medical Education Prog-PA
10. Emory Univ SOM-GA
11. U Colorado SOM-Denver
12. Baylor Coll Med-Houston-TX

I would personally rank them differently but I can't really see anything in your list that doesn't make sense one way or another. Looks like you combined program rank + gut feeling + geography to make the right list for you which is the best way to do it.
 
Word.

Again, since we don't know the denominator in that number (how many people actually applied to Cards), the numerator is largely irrelevant.

Exactly!!!

If 7 people applied and 7 people didn't find a cards spot, then that might trouble me, but if 7 people applied and 7 people found a cards spot that's awesome. Something else missing here too is the assumption that since a program sent someone to duke for cards, that must mean they are awesome at sending people to cards as compared to another. We have no clue where people interviewed and why they put together their rank list the way they did. It was been my experience that, at least for AMGs, everyone gets into their top one or two choice fellowship. And someone may have gotten a nod from duke for an interview but decides to stay at their home program because they prefer the location, or the training culture, or they have the research mentor they want. Fellowship match listing is SO MUCH more complicated than simply picking the biggest name academic program because it will ultimate define your career and what you want to do. It's hard to get that message across until you've bene through it I guess.

So for me the bottom line is NOT to try and match to a program that sent the most people to duke, but match to an awesome general IM academic program, be and awesome resident, and then YOU can be the reason you get an invite to duke. Hell, one of my best friends got a nod from Duke for cards and she isn't at Hopkins (or UCSF, or UTSW, or Emory, or Yale), not even close, and it wasn't ultimately her style of program and it got ranked #4. She got her number one out of 17 programs (I know insane number of interviews), which we might academically turn our noses up at when compared to duke, but it's what she wanted for training.
 
I would personally rank them differently but I can't really see anything in your list that doesn't make sense one way or another. Looks like you combined program rank + gut feeling + geography to make the right list for you which is the best way to do it.

this is what I wished I would have said previously 👍
 
Hey everyone! I'm applying for a categorical position, interested in pursuing a more competitive fellowship (cards, gi, hem-onc). Thanks!

Albert Einstein - Beth Israel
Albert Einstein - Montefiore
Brown
Cal Pacific
Loma Linda
Northshore - LIJ
RWJMS
Santa Clara Valley Med
Scripps Mercy
NY Hospital - Queens
St. Luke's Roosevelt in NYC
Temple
Thomas Jefferson
USC
Olive View
 
Interested in GIM/hospital medicine. Here is my list so far in rough order....

Stanford
UW
-----------
UCLA
UColorado
UChicago
JH
Vandy
UMich
UCSD

QoL/geography, broad patient/disease exposure, and reputation are all important factors to me. I'm still trying to figure out how important each is!

Thanks!
 
Interested in GIM/hospital medicine. Here is my list so far in rough order....

Stanford
UW
-----------
UCLA
UColorado
UChicago
JH
Vandy
UMich
UCSD

QoL/geography, broad patient/disease exposure, and reputation are all important factors to me. I'm still trying to figure out how important each is!

Thanks!

Geography is personal preference, so I'll leave that to you. Most all those places will likely give you solid patient/disease exposure - personally I thought UChicago's clinical exposure was limited as almost all clinical experience was limited to it's *relatively* small tertiary referral academic hospital. Also, I got a super research heavy vibe from UChicago (meaning clinical training probably plays second fiddle).

Reputation wise, UColorado and UCSD are at the bottom of that list and Johns Hopkins is at the top.
 
Okay, this is my preliminary rank list. I ranked Baylor last not because I hate it. It's a great program. I just want to get out of Texas for a few years. Let me know if you see anything that abhors you.

1. Mt Sinai Hospital-NY
2. NYU School Of Medicine
3. UCLA Medical Center-CA
4. UC San Diego Med Ctr-CA
5. Northwestern McGaw/NMH/VA-IL
6. U Michigan Hosps-Ann Arbor
7. Vanderbilt Univ Med Ctr-TN
8. Barnes-Jewish Hosp-MO
9. UPMC Medical Education Prog-PA
10. Emory Univ SOM-GA
11. U Colorado SOM-Denver
12. Baylor Coll Med-Houston-TX

I would personally rank them differently but I can't really see anything in your list that doesn't make sense one way or another. Looks like you combined program rank + gut feeling + geography to make the right list for you which is the best way to do it.

How would you guys rank them based on academic reputation/Cards-GI fellowship match alone?
 
I have to make a rank list soon and here are my top choices:
U of Iowa
U of Missouri
U of Cincinnati
U of Arizona
U of Southern Florida
U of Louisville
U of Virginia
U of Florida
U of Texas San Antonio
Kaiser SF
Kaiser Oakland
Virginia Mason


My goals: become a good clinician, have the door open for fellowships, have fun during residency (will I have time to date/go out/hike/camp? etc????).
I want to be able to get a fellowship/job in a place of my liking after graduating the IM program. For example, I want the option of living in Seattle if I chose to do so. If I did my residency at Kaiser SF/Oakland, would it be easy for me to get a job in Seattle as a hospitalist?

I really liked the Kaiser system! I enjoyed the city of San Francisco. Though incredibly expensive, it would be a lot of fun to live there. But I don't want to do that at the expense of not landing a job anywhere else/closing most doors to fellowship.

If I am not going to have much time at all, I would rather go to a small town with a solid academic program (U of Florida/U of Iowa).
But if this is the time to make new friends, explore new hobbies, date, etc. I would make geography a higher priority and live somewhere I would be happy.
 
I couldn't agree with this statement more!

See: Baylor, UIC, UMinn

I can't stand the South but would still go to the Vandy interview. You never know if a program is going to completely blow your mind.
 
PS I also feel like at some of these community programs...I will be much better trained as a hospitalist...

Without the fellows....the IM residents seem to be doing ALL the procedures!

Anyone have thoughts on this? Will it make you a more confident hospitalist?
Or is it still better to go to a University program?

Thanks again for all the help!
 
Geography is personal preference, so I'll leave that to you. Most all those places will likely give you solid patient/disease exposure - personally I thought UChicago's clinical exposure was limited as almost all clinical experience was limited to it's *relatively* small tertiary referral academic hospital. Also, I got a super research heavy vibe from UChicago (meaning clinical training probably plays second fiddle).

Reputation wise, UColorado and UCSD are at the bottom of that list and Johns Hopkins is at the top.

Completely agree with this statement in its entirety. You will definitely get what you want from any of those programs. Choose based on vibe and geography and you'll be fine.
 
PS I also feel like at some of these community programs...I will be much better trained as a hospitalist...

Without the fellows....the IM residents seem to be doing ALL the procedures!

Anyone have thoughts on this? Will it make you a more confident hospitalist?
Or is it still better to go to a University program?

Thanks again for all the help!

Merged this and previous post into the Rank List megathread.
 
I am interested in Heme/Onc and having trouble ranking mid tier programs. Your help/insight would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Vandy
Emory
Case Western
Duke
University of south Florida
University of Louisville
Wake forest
University of Cincinnati
University of St. Louis
University of Arizona
Rush
 
Hello,
I am interested in pursuing cardiology, could someone plz let me know what they think would be a good rank list of the following programs that would allow me to have the best chance at getting a cards fellowship:


Univ of Alabama-Birmingham
Temple
Drexel
Wake Forest
Albert Einstein beth israel
GW
RWJMS
West virginia
Penn state Hershey
Allegheny
Lankenau
South Alabama

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciate!! Thanks so much in advance!
 
Hi All, I am really firmly interested in Heme-Onc but want to go to a program where I can not only get great clinical training but a place where people are happy and have time for research in a non malignant environment.

At the same time I want to make sure I pick a place that will give me the best odds of matching into a great Heme-Onc program in the southwest or west. That is where I see myself in the future.

In fact that is why I did not apply to any east coast/south programs or any of the top tier programs there, though now I wonder if I should have not applied so narrowly so I could have at least checked it out if offered. :idea: Oh well!

I'd really appreciate all of your insight especially JDH and gutonc.

I still also haven't had all of my interviews so this is by no means in order or complete.

* UCLA - Olive View - I know this isnt like Reagan but will I still be able to match into a great H/O from here? Plus you get built in time for
research as an intern which is nice.
* U of Arizona - It seems like they take their own for fellowship. Do I have a shot of going to CA programs or other programs in the SW
coming from here? Plus it is a comprehensive CA Ctr.
* Banner Good Samaritan - i like Phoenix but I am not sure if this is too much of a community based program even though it's UA associated?
* UTSW - Dallas - Great rep but not sure I fit in to that kind of environment.
* U of Cincinnati - loved the program but it'd not sure if I could make it the west or southwest for H/O from here?
* Rush - Really friendly people but not really a fan of the Midwest.
* U of Chicago - Northshore - Seemed like it might be too much of a community program
* U of New Mexico - Really nice people but I am not sure it would make the best place to train?

Thanks for your help! 🙂
 
How would you guys rank them based on academic reputation/Cards-GI fellowship match alone?

Michigan = Wash U
UCLA = Vandy
MSSM = NW
----------------
NYU = Emory = UCSD = Pitt
Colorado = Baylor

just my two cents - was underwhelmed by UCLA and Mt. Sinai last year, but that's me. Reputation wise, both are strong - very little separation within that top tier.
 
I am interested in Heme/Onc and having trouble ranking mid tier programs. Your help/insight would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Duke
Vandy
Emory
-----------------
Case Western (really underrated, fantastic PD, very solid match)
Wake Forest = Cincy = Rush
-----------------
The rest
 
Hello,
I am interested in pursuing cardiology, could someone plz let me know what they think would be a good rank list of the following programs that would allow me to have the best chance at getting a cards fellowship:


Univ of Alabama-Birmingham
Temple
Drexel
Wake Forest
Albert Einstein beth israel
GW
RWJMS
West virginia
Penn state Hershey
Allegheny
Lankenau
South Alabama

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciate!! Thanks so much in advance!

Solid list, lots of in-house options at these places.

The strongest program, cards and reputation wise, is UAB - far and away.

So..

UAB
Temple = Penn State = RWJ
GW
Drexel
The rest
 
Hi All, I am really firmly interested in Heme-Onc but want to go to a program where I can not only get great clinical training but a place where people are happy and have time for research in a non malignant environment.

At the same time I want to make sure I pick a place that will give me the best odds of matching into a great Heme-Onc program in the southwest or west. That is where I see myself in the future.

In fact that is why I did not apply to any east coast/south programs or any of the top tier programs there, though now I wonder if I should have not applied so narrowly so I could have at least checked it out if offered. :idea: Oh well!

I'd really appreciate all of your insight especially JDH and gutonc.

I still also haven't had all of my interviews so this is by no means in order or complete.

* UCLA - Olive View - I know this isnt like Reagan but will I still be able to match into a great H/O from here? Plus you get built in time for
research as an intern which is nice.
* U of Arizona - It seems like they take their own for fellowship. Do I have a shot of going to CA programs or other programs in the SW
coming from here? Plus it is a comprehensive CA Ctr.
* Banner Good Samaritan - i like Phoenix but I am not sure if this is too much of a community based program even though it's UA associated?
* UTSW - Dallas - Great rep but not sure I fit in to that kind of environment.
* U of Cincinnati - loved the program but it'd not sure if I could make it the west or southwest for H/O from here?
* Rush - Really friendly people but not really a fan of the Midwest.
* U of Chicago - Northshore - Seemed like it might be too much of a community program
* U of New Mexico - Really nice people but I am not sure it would make the best place to train?

Thanks for your help! 🙂

I gotta say, it seems like you've thought this through pretty well, haha. 🙂

Seriously, though, what more can we add? You know where you want to be geographically, and you know that UTSW may not be the kind of program in which you'd thrive. So trust your gut and rank how you feel.

You're right that your best shot at a "great h/o" program is from UTSW - best reputation (nationally) on your list. That being said, Olive View will likely keep you competitive for the SoCal programs (UCLA, City of Hope, USC-Norris) if you do the right things in residency (research, etc.).

Reading over your list/rationale, I'd do the following:

Olive View
Arizona
The rest as you see fit

If being in the SW makes you happy, then be happy as an intern.
 
I’ve been reading this thread, so I feel like I have a fairly good idea of how the places I interviewed stand in terms of relative rankings. So my question isn’t directly a “rank this list” question.

I have a pretty solid shot at staying at a program in town. Let’s say the program is at the level of Emory. My fiancé can’t move for at least a year, and if he were to move would have to give up a job with an opportunity to become a partner in the firm. He is willing to move if necessary. What programs out of my list are “good enough” to be worth moving for?

I’m thinking about staying in academics, but I haven’t figured out what specialty I want to do. A this point, I can’t see myself doing anything too competitive (hate cards, don’t like procedures so I can’t see myself doing GI, cancer patients make me depressed).

Baylor
Duke
JHU
Northwestern
Pitt
Tulane
U Chicago
UTSW
U Wash
Vandy
Wash U

I know this is kind of a personal question, but I was interested in hearing some opinions.
 
Long time reader - first post. Thinking probably Endocrine or Renal (or possibly ID). Interviewed in New York, Boston, and Philly but would prefer to stay in NY. However, having a hard time deciding whether to go w/ geography over reputation.

Columbia
Sinai
Cornell
NYU
Monte
North Shore/LIJ
Penn
MGH
BID
BU
Tufts
 
I’ve been reading this thread, so I feel like I have a fairly good idea of how the places I interviewed stand in terms of relative rankings. So my question isn’t directly a “rank this list” question.

I have a pretty solid shot at staying at a program in town. Let’s say the program is at the level of Emory. My fiancé can’t move for at least a year, and if he were to move would have to give up a job with an opportunity to become a partner in the firm. He is willing to move if necessary. What programs out of my list are “good enough” to be worth moving for?

I’m thinking about staying in academics, but I haven’t figured out what specialty I want to do. A this point, I can’t see myself doing anything too competitive (hate cards, don’t like procedures so I can’t see myself doing GI, cancer patients make me depressed).

Baylor
Duke
JHU
Northwestern
Pitt
Tulane
U Chicago
UTSW
U Wash
Vandy
Wash U

I know this is kind of a personal question, but I was interested in hearing some opinions.


Just to respond to the general question- I would not move your fiance. The job market is so rough right now, more so for lawyers, and it may be extremely difficult for him to get a new job quickly. I think that if he likes his job and has a chance to make partner, it would be in the best interest of your life and relationship to go for a great program nearby, rather than an outstanding program in a different state.

But thats just my 2 cents
 
Hey everyone! I'm applying for a categorical position, interested in pursuing a more competitive fellowship (cards, gi, hem-onc). Thanks!

Albert Einstein - Beth Israel
Albert Einstein - Montefiore
Brown
Cal Pacific
Loma Linda
Northshore - LIJ
RWJMS
Santa Clara Valley Med
Scripps Mercy
NY Hospital - Queens
St. Luke's Roosevelt in NYC
Temple
Thomas Jefferson
USC
Olive View

I'm just not as good with the lesser known NY/NJ programs

I think USC, Loma Linda, and Einstein at the top how you like them, with Olive View, Jefferson, Temple, Brown, and Cal Pacific somewhere next as you like them.
 
Interested in GIM/hospital medicine. Here is my list so far in rough order....

Stanford
UW
-----------
UCLA
UColorado
UChicago
JH
Vandy
UMich
UCSD

QoL/geography, broad patient/disease exposure, and reputation are all important factors to me. I'm still trying to figure out how important each is!

Thanks!

Maybe this has already been said, but I fail to see what the problem is with this list? Looks fine if that's the way you like it. You really can't wrong with any of those programs.
 
I have to make a rank list soon and here are my top choices:
U of Iowa
U of Missouri
U of Cincinnati
U of Arizona
U of Southern Florida
U of Louisville
U of Virginia
U of Florida
U of Texas San Antonio
Kaiser SF
Kaiser Oakland
Virginia Mason

I'd probably rank in order of academic rep, something like this . . .

Iowa = UVA
Florida = San Antonio = Arizona
Cinci = Louisville = USF
Kaisers and V-Mason

Is that Missouri KC or Missouri Columbia?

My goals: become a good clinician, have the door open for fellowships, have fun during residency (will I have time to date/go out/hike/camp? etc????).
I want to be able to get a fellowship/job in a place of my liking after graduating the IM program. For example, I want the option of living in Seattle if I chose to do so. If I did my residency at Kaiser SF/Oakland, would it be easy for me to get a job in Seattle as a hospitalist?

I really liked the Kaiser system! I enjoyed the city of San Francisco. Though incredibly expensive, it would be a lot of fun to live there. But I don't want to do that at the expense of not landing a job anywhere else/closing most doors to fellowship.

If I am not going to have much time at all, I would rather go to a small town with a solid academic program (U of Florida/U of Iowa).
But if this is the time to make new friends, explore new hobbies, date, etc. I would make geography a higher priority and live somewhere I would be happy.

Once you're done with residency you can go work anywhere. Where you went to residency isn't going to matter much. Seattle and the surrounding area have a lot of hospitals. Someone will hire you.

If you like the Kaiser system, then go to Kaiser. I do think that if you're considering any kind of fellowship, the higher up the academic food chain your find yourself when you apply the more options you have of places to go.

This will be the time to make new friends, explore new hobbies, date, etc. AND you will not have much time - you make time. Rank where you want to live all other things being equal.
 
I am interested in Heme/Onc and having trouble ranking mid tier programs. Your help/insight would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Vandy
Emory
Case Western
Duke
University of south Florida
University of Louisville
Wake forest
University of Cincinnati
University of St. Louis
University of Arizona
Rush

Maybe like this

Duke
Vandy
Emory
AZ = Case = Wake
Cinci = Louisville = SLU = Rush
 
Hello,
I am interested in pursuing cardiology, could someone plz let me know what they think would be a good rank list of the following programs that would allow me to have the best chance at getting a cards fellowship:


Univ of Alabama-Birmingham
Temple
Drexel
Wake Forest
Albert Einstein beth israel
GW
RWJMS
West virginia
Penn state Hershey
Allegheny
Lankenau
South Alabama

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciate!! Thanks so much in advance!

UAB
Wake
WVA
Temple
The rest.
 
Hi All, I am really firmly interested in Heme-Onc but want to go to a program where I can not only get great clinical training but a place where people are happy and have time for research in a non malignant environment.

At the same time I want to make sure I pick a place that will give me the best odds of matching into a great Heme-Onc program in the southwest or west. That is where I see myself in the future.

In fact that is why I did not apply to any east coast/south programs or any of the top tier programs there, though now I wonder if I should have not applied so narrowly so I could have at least checked it out if offered. :idea: Oh well!

I'd really appreciate all of your insight especially JDH and gutonc.

I still also haven't had all of my interviews so this is by no means in order or complete.

* UCLA - Olive View - I know this isnt like Reagan but will I still be able to match into a great H/O from here? Plus you get built in time for
research as an intern which is nice.
* U of Arizona - It seems like they take their own for fellowship. Do I have a shot of going to CA programs or other programs in the SW
coming from here? Plus it is a comprehensive CA Ctr.
* Banner Good Samaritan - i like Phoenix but I am not sure if this is too much of a community based program even though it's UA associated?
* UTSW - Dallas - Great rep but not sure I fit in to that kind of environment.
* U of Cincinnati - loved the program but it'd not sure if I could make it the west or southwest for H/O from here?
* Rush - Really friendly people but not really a fan of the Midwest.
* U of Chicago - Northshore - Seemed like it might be too much of a community program
* U of New Mexico - Really nice people but I am not sure it would make the best place to train?

Thanks for your help! 🙂

I think if you want heme/onc, it's best to consider as academic a program as possible . . . this one is tough based on your criteria. I personally think you can make it from AZ back into California. UTSW has the potential to put you wherever, but sounds like you might not be happy there. Olive View has potential for what you want, but you'll need to hustle a little more. Cinci and Rush really aren't that bad of options outside of your dislike of the location. U of New Mexico I know basically nothing about. Northshore (the affiliation, which used to be with NWern I think until last year, won't help you) and Good Sam's are kind of dead ends.

I say . . . trying to hold all of the pieces together . . .

AZ
UTSW
Olive View
Rush
Cinci
Good Sam
NM
Northshore
 
I’ve been reading this thread, so I feel like I have a fairly good idea of how the places I interviewed stand in terms of relative rankings. So my question isn’t directly a “rank this list” question.

I have a pretty solid shot at staying at a program in town. Let’s say the program is at the level of Emory. My fiancé can’t move for at least a year, and if he were to move would have to give up a job with an opportunity to become a partner in the firm. He is willing to move if necessary. What programs out of my list are “good enough” to be worth moving for?

I’m thinking about staying in academics, but I haven’t figured out what specialty I want to do. A this point, I can’t see myself doing anything too competitive (hate cards, don’t like procedures so I can’t see myself doing GI, cancer patients make me depressed).

Baylor
Duke
JHU
Northwestern
Pitt
Tulane
U Chicago
UTSW
U Wash
Vandy
Wash U

I know this is kind of a personal question, but I was interested in hearing some opinions.

Yeah dude . . . just throw together a list the way you liked them, you'll be fine. But if you want me to toss in my $0.02 about academic "rank", it'd probably be like this . . .

Hopkins
Duke
UW
Vandy = WashU
UTSW = Chicago
NWern = Baylor = Pitt
Tulane
 
DO, interest in PULM/CC trying to rank between the following:

UMDNJ-NJMS
UCONN
WVU
Penn State
UK
MetroHealth-Case Western Reserve


Thanks!

As a current slave at Metro, I highly suggest you remove it off your list and not even consider ranking it. The program has consistently fired interns every year for many years now and not renew contracts for others. The board scores are getting worse as there is little education and heavy reliance on residents for procedures. On top of it all, the residents have NO JOB SECURITY and can be fired at any time for NO REASON as they are non-bargaining employees. (This goes for all residencies/fellowships at Metro) I could go on and on about the problems I've seen this year and I hear from those who have been there before me that things have been getting worse for a few years now.
 
Nothing like the fury of an abused resident/intern! Thanks for the multiple warnings about MetroHealth.... hopefully it gets better there.



As a current slave at Metro, I highly suggest you remove it off your list and not even consider ranking it. The program has consistently fired interns every year for many years now and not renew contracts for others. The board scores are getting worse as there is little education and heavy reliance on residents for procedures. On top of it all, the residents have NO JOB SECURITY and can be fired at any time for NO REASON as they are non-bargaining employees. (This goes for all residencies/fellowships at Metro) I could go on and on about the problems I've seen this year and I hear from those who have been there before me that things have been getting worse for a few years now.
 
I know nothing of Metro's IM program, but take everything with a grain of salt and choose the program that YOU found to be the best at your interviews and from info passed along by TRUSTED sources. Please don't base your decisions solely on slanderous posts from randoms on SDN!

For all you know, MetroHealthCLE could be an applicant who is gunning for Metro trying to scare other applicants away. Or a CWRU U-H or CCF resident trying to poo-poo Metro! Or more likely just a resident who was (rightfully or wrongfully) rubbed the wrong way- and whose views are not shared by the majority of the housestaff.

Nothing like the fury of an abused resident/intern! Thanks for the multiple warnings about MetroHealth.... hopefully it gets better there.
 
I know nothing of Metro's IM program, but take everything with a grain of salt and choose the program that YOU found to be the best at your interviews and from info passed along by TRUSTED sources. Please don't base your decisions solely on slanderous posts from randoms on SDN!

For all you know, MetroHealthCLE could be an applicant who is gunning for Metro trying to scare other applicants away. Or a CWRU U-H or CCF resident trying to poo-poo Metro! Or more likely just a resident who was (rightfully or wrongfully) rubbed the wrong way- and whose views are not shared by the majority of the housestaff.

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Long time reader - first post. Thinking probably Endocrine or Renal (or possibly ID). Interviewed in New York, Boston, and Philly but would prefer to stay in NY. However, having a hard time deciding whether to go w/ geography over reputation.

Columbia
Sinai
Cornell
NYU
Monte
North Shore/LIJ
Penn
MGH
BID
BU
Tufts

Nice job!

MGH
Columbia = Penn
Cornell
BID=Sinai
The rest
 
what do u think about Case western for cards as compared to Iowa, UAb and other bitches.... I like University hospitals... n weather is not a concern for me... i love cold weather and snow...🙂
 
what do u think about Case western for cards as compared to Iowa, UAb and other bitches.... I like University hospitals... n weather is not a concern for me... i love cold weather and snow...🙂

Are you ******ed? Don't answer that, it's rhetorical . . .

Case actually doesn't have a bad match list, we talked about it earlier this year on this board. I'm not sure which other "bitches" you may be referring to, but I'd bet Iowa and UAB both have nice cardio matches, and as bigger name academic centers, likely have the potential to match to another bigger name academic center.
 
what do u think about case western for cards as compared to iowa, uab and other bitches.... I like university hospitals... N weather is not a concern for me... I love cold weather and snow...🙂


lame
 
Any thoughts on differentiating between UIC and Rush... obviously below the level of Northwestern, but just in comparing the two to each other?

Thanks in advance.
 
Dr. Zar at UIC is legendary. Rush has a pretty new hospital. I know people at both who are very happy - all staying in-house for fellowship and loving the programs.

Personally, I'd pick UIC (just a gut sense that it's stronger) but would say you should go with your gut and rank whichever one you preferred.
 
Who knew that the dude above had these programs so on lock that they were his b*tches?

Strong work...?
 
Nice job!

MGH
Columbia = Penn
Cornell
BID=Sinai
The rest

Cornell is strong in endocrine and renal - nationally renowned in both, actually - might be worth putting them equivalent with Columbia if those are where you're leaning.

(my real rationale: cornell's housing is saweeeeeeeeeet)
 
Why don't you people make a final consensus list for Cards... went through most part of thread and everybody is telling it differently...
lez make a list of all the major names....may be 50 ..
 
Why don't you people make a final consensus list for Cards... went through most part of thread and everybody is telling it differently...
lez make a list of all the major names....may be 50 ..

No. 😀
 
Why don't you people make a final consensus list for Cards... went through most part of thread and everybody is telling it differently...
lez make a list of all the major names....may be 50 ..

Why do so many today insist on doing so much violence to written English language?
 
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