Official Rank List Help Thread 2010-2011

[mentalgymnast]

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Having interviewed at all except Sinai, this is my take:

1. Columbia
2. Northwestern = BIDMC
3. UW
4. Sinai

Uhhh not sure I agree with this. 1) Sinai is home of Dr Crohn and probably one of the best GI lumen centers in the country. Especially if the OP is interested in GI lumen in particular, it would be really surprising to rank it last. 2) Even if not interested in GI, i'm not sure how UW is being ranked lower than the BI and NW. This place is a west coast powerhouse.

I would say if strongly interested in GI:

Columbia = Sinai
UW
Northwestern = BIDMC

If want overall solid program based on national repution:
Columbia
UW
BIDMC=NW=Sinai

Great list no matter what! 👍

 

[gandychan]

Virginia Mason
Pitt
Kaiser Oakland
UCLA Harbor
Kaiser SF
PPMC
Kaiser LA
Portland St. Vincient

UCLA Olive View
Cedars Sinai

I was originally intent on going to the west coast so I did not apply to very many schools on the east coast. In hindsight, I regret not applying to more programs out east. Location is a big factor for me and I thought I would be very okay with doing residency at a community program, but I have some doubts now. Only applied to reach programs on the east coast besides Pitt so no other academic programs...

I am having second thoughts about my career/employment with a degree from a community hospital. I want to either be a hospitalist or do an ID fellowship. I really liked virginia mason and kaiser oakland, but I realize that the teaching/reputation may be better at Pitt and Harbor. I need to know how much of a disadvantage it is to get a hospitalist job at a metropolitan city coming from a community program vs. Pitt or Harbor.

Negative of Pitt is location for me. Negatives of Harbor are poor funding and I don't really want to live in Torrence, CA. I'd rather be in Seattle or SF. Is the 3 year sacrifice worth it?

I haven't been to cedars or olive view yet so I can't comment on those programs.

 

[TX4Lyfe]

Uhhh not sure I agree with this. 1) Sinai is home of Dr Crohn and probably one of the best GI lumen centers in the country. Especially if the OP is interested in GI lumen in particular, it would be really surprising to rank it last. 2) Even if not interested in GI, i'm not sure how UW is being ranked lower than the BI and NW. This place is a west coast powerhouse.

I would say if strongly interested in GI:

Columbia = Sinai
UW
Northwestern = BIDMC

If want overall solid program based on national repution:
Columbia
UW
BIDMC=NW=Sinai

Great list no matter what! 👍

One of the things I noticed when I interviewed at UW was that GI was not one of their strong points. For being one of the powerhouses in the west, their GI fellowship match was unimpressive. But their ID and H/O was awesome.

 

[butterfly love]

These are the programs I have interviewed at:

Georgetown
Albert Einstein Montefiore
UMDNJ RWJ
North Shore LIJ
UMass
Penn State University
Albert Einstein Beth Israel
SUNY Downstate
UMDNJ NJMS

also, is there a huge difference in name/reputation between UMDNJ RWJ and North Shore LIJ (does the rank order between those 2 matter?)

 

[gutonc]

also, is there a huge difference in name/reputation between UMDNJ RWJ and North Shore LIJ (does the rank order between those 2 matter?)

At the moment, yes. RWJ has a better academic reputation if research or an academic career is something you care about. NS-LIJ has a brand new academic affiliation with a non-research university but is an excellent program.

 

[gutonc]

Virginia Mason
Pitt
Kaiser Oakland
UCLA Harbor
Kaiser SF
PPMC
Kaiser LA
Portland St. Vincient

UCLA Olive View
Cedars Sinai

By Tiers:
Pitt
Harbor
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Virginia Mason
Olive View
Prov Portland (I assume this is what you meant by PPMC...nobody calls it that)
Cedars-Sinai
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The Kaisers
Prov St. V's

ID is not that competitive so you'll probably be fine getting a fellowship somewhere no matter where you end up. If you want a real academic career though, Pitt and Harbor are your best/only shot.

 

[medstudent0711]

Long time reader, first post:

Thinking of GI versus primary care. Would appreciate any input/thoughts. I've listed them in tiers:

Cornell
Mt Sinai
BIDMC
Yale Traditional
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NYU
Montefiore/Einstein
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NS-LIJ
Stony Brook

Thanks.

 

[gutonc]

Long time reader, first post:

Thinking of GI versus primary care. Would appreciate any input/thoughts. I've listed them in tiers:

Cornell
Mt Sinai
BIDMC
Yale Traditional
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NYU
Montefiore/Einstein
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NS-LIJ
Stony Brook

Thanks.

Thanks for saving me the trouble. That's how I'd put them. In the top tier (which, given your interviews you probably won't have to go beyond), I'd personally go:
MSSM
BIDMC
Cornell
Yale

 

[medstudent0711]

Thanks for saving me the trouble. That's how I'd put them. In the top tier (which, given your interviews you probably won't have to go beyond), I'd personally go:
MSSM
BIDMC
Cornell
Yale

Just curious - is it institutional reputation, or GI fellowship match list, or some other metric that makes you reorder them? I was surprised that BIDMC ended up higher that Cornell on your list, so I'm curious what motivated your order.

Thanks so much for replying!

 

[gutonc]

Just curious - is it institutional reputation, or GI fellowship match list, or some other metric that makes you reorder them? I was surprised that BIDMC ended up higher that Cornell on your list, so I'm curious what motivated your order.

Thanks so much for replying!

I didn't even notice that you were interested in GI.

My order is based on my own experience and what I've heard from friends (not teh intarnetz) who have trained in those places. Obviously, MSSM is top for GI among the places you listed and was my #2 choice for residency...I loved that place. People I know who trained at BIDMC (with one exception who I wouldn't trust to wash my car) loved it and are all excellent physicians. I wanted to love Cornell but just couldn't...it went from #1 or 2 on my pre-interview rank list to #8 on my actual list. Yale is no better than any of those places and is in New Haven.

 

[applyingsucks]

Long time reader, first post:

Thinking of GI versus primary care. Would appreciate any input/thoughts. I've listed them in tiers:

Cornell
Mt Sinai
BIDMC
Yale Traditional
-----
NYU
Montefiore/Einstein
---
NS-LIJ
Stony Brook

Thanks.

If you want GI and you want to be in NYC you'd be crazy not to rank MSSM first. If you wanted heme/onc I'd understand putting up with cornell's program. Overall solid list, you should have no problem.

 

[mrjohndaniels]

help please - interested in heme/onc

duke
cornell
mt sinai
utsw
vanderbilt
emory
uab
uva
wake forest
georgetown

 

[SaoTo]

Long time reader, first post:

Thinking of GI versus primary care. Would appreciate any input/thoughts. I've listed them in tiers:

Cornell
Mt Sinai
BIDMC
Yale Traditional

Thanks.

GI matches fro the last few years:

Mount Sinai
-2010: Temple, Monte x2, Mount Sinai x2, stony Brook, Cornell
-2009: Mount Sinai x3, Hopkins x2, Winthrop, Beth Israel NY
-2008: UMDNJ, UCSD, Beth Israel NY, Cornell, Brown, Mount Sinai x2, LSU, Monte, NYMC

Cornell
-2011: NYU, Mount Sinai x2, MSKCC, Hopkins, UPenn, Lenox Hill, Westchester, Cornell
-2010: Brigham, MSKCC, Beth Israel NY, Lahey
-2009: Monte x2, Columbia, Cornell x2, UPenn
-2008: Brown, UWash, Columbia, NYU

BIDMC
-2009: BIDMC x2, Monte, Brown, Colorado, Emory, Lahey
-2008: BIDMC, Dartmouth, Emory, Stanford, UMich
-2007: Mount Sinai, UMass, U Rochester, Wake Forest

Don't have access to Yale's list.

I guess the list speaks for itself on which program has the best track record for competitive GI matching!

 

[NastyNick45]

help please - interested in heme/onc

duke
cornell
mt sinai
utsw
vanderbilt
emory
uab
uva
wake forest
georgetown

__________________________________________________

cornell - ridiculously awesome H/O match
duke
utsw = vanderbilt
mt sinai - take this with a grain of salt, I"m biased, really didn't like 'em
emory
georgetown = uab = wake forest = uva

 

[francisco84]

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cornell - ridiculously awesome H/O match
duke
utsw = vanderbilt
mt sinai - take this with a grain of salt, I"m biased, really didn't like 'em
emory
georgetown = uab = wake forest = uva

I'm no expert but UVa is miles ahead of georgetown. The impression I get around here is that UVa should be on par with Emory-ish. Georgetown has been having trouble with fellowship matching lately, I'd love to be in DC for residency but every impression I get is that I'd be a fool to do so.

 

[jdh71]

I think it might be picking up in here!

Anyone have an over-under on how many days until we have the first flame fight about a "rankings" post?

 

[IMstudent82]

Any thoughts on ranking these IM programs will be highly appreciated. I am interested in cardiology.

USC
Loma Linda
Wayne State university
Temple
Cedars Sinai
University of Arkansas
University of Minnesota
University of Mass
University of Arizona
Cleveland Clinic
SLU

Thanks in advance.

 

[gutonc]

I think it might be picking up in here!

Anyone have an over-under on how many days until we have the first flame fight about a "rankings" post?

I'm a little disappointed it hasn't happened yet.

I'm considering letting the MS4 echo chamber ring for a week or so in here...it's kind of funny to watch.

 

[jdh71]

I'm a little disappointed it hasn't happened yet.

I'm considering letting the MS4 echo chamber ring for a week or so in here...it's kind of funny to watch.

 

[gold&black2005]

Interviewed at all four last year. All good choices for both GI and PC. They're all strong programs - add Chicago in the mix and you've pretty much got a solid peer group of programs that are essentially equals in terms of academic reputation.

Off the top of my head, Yale's GI match list for the past 2-3 years has been pretty solid - a bunch staying at Yale (6-7) and others going to Brigham, BIDMC, Mt. Sinai, Columbia, Jefferson, BU, Stanford, Brown and Mayo. (Yale GI tends to have a preference for its own, so people go elsewhere only to go to a better program or for geographic restrictions.)

There was a thread analyzing this a few months back, but I'd say for GI, Sinai's match was the strongest (due to the quality of in-house match, which paled in comparison to everyone else), followed by Yale/Cornell with BIDMC bringing up the rear.

So, for GI, I'd do the following, taking location out of the mix:

Mt. Sinai > Yale = Cornell > BIDMC

Primary care wise, however, I thought that the BI and Yale were stronger in terms of resources. The Harvard primary care network is incredible in terms of mentors/resources/advocacy opps/research, while Yale (with a RWJ site, robust global health progrma and lots of cross-disciplinary opps at the Law School/School of Management/etc.) is no slouch. New York primary care tends to be a little weaker in terms of resources, with Monte and NYU being the real cream of the class there. Cornell has an interesting PC track, though, that's exceptionall well-funded and has a good amount of leadership development opps.

So, for PC:

BIDMC = Yale > Cornell > Sinai

Overall, I'd probably do this, taking both GI and PC into account but weighting heavier toward keeping GI opportunities open:

Cornell = Yale
Sinai
BIDMC

hope this helps!

GI matches fro the last few years:

Mount Sinai
-2010: Temple, Monte x2, Mount Sinai x2, stony Brook, Cornell
-2009: Mount Sinai x3, Hopkins x2, Winthrop, Beth Israel NY
-2008: UMDNJ, UCSD, Beth Israel NY, Cornell, Brown, Mount Sinai x2, LSU, Monte, NYMC

Cornell
-2011: NYU, Mount Sinai x2, MSKCC, Hopkins, UPenn, Lenox Hill, Westchester, Cornell
-2010: Brigham, MSKCC, Beth Israel NY, Lahey
-2009: Monte x2, Columbia, Cornell x2, UPenn
-2008: Brown, UWash, Columbia, NYU

BIDMC
-2009: BIDMC x2, Monte, Brown, Colorado, Emory, Lahey
-2008: BIDMC, Dartmouth, Emory, Stanford, UMich
-2007: Mount Sinai, UMass, U Rochester, Wake Forest

Don't have access to Yale's list.

I guess the list speaks for itself on which program has the best track record for competitive GI matching!

 

[gold&black2005]

Duke (also ridiculous H/O match)
Cornell
UTSW = Vanderbilt
Mt. Sinai = UVA (UVA's onc list is strong)
Emory = UAB
Georgetown = Wake (both weaker)

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cornell - ridiculously awesome H/O match
duke
utsw = vanderbilt
mt sinai - take this with a grain of salt, I"m biased, really didn't like 'em
emory
georgetown = uab = wake forest = uva

 

[gold&black2005]

UMinn = CCF
Cedars = USC (match wise, I think?)
Temple
UMass
the rest

Any thoughts on ranking these IM programs will be highly appreciated. I am interested in cardiology.

USC
Loma Linda
Wayne State university
Temple
Cedars Sinai
University of Arkansas
University of Minnesota
University of Mass
University of Arizona
Cleveland Clinic
SLU

Thanks in advance.

 

[zoomba25]

Hi. I am interested in Cardiology. here is my list. thanks in advance 🙂

Cornell
Mount Sinai
Yale
BU
Montefiore
Brown
Dartmouth

 

[gold&black2005]

Yale = Cornell (Cornell wins on location, Yale's cards match is a bit better)
Mt. Sinai
------
BU
Brown = Monte = Dartmouth

Hi. I am interested in Cardiology. here is my list. thanks in advance 🙂

Cornell
Mount Sinai
Yale
BU
Montefiore
Brown
Dartmouth

 

[gutonc]

Yale = Cornell (Cornell wins on location, Yale's cards match is a bit better)
Mt. Sinai
------
BU
Brown = Monte = Dartmouth

Close.

Yale = Cornell (Cornell wins on location, Yale's cards match is a bit better)
Mt. Sinai
------
Dartmouth
------
BU
Brown = Monte

 

[jdh71]

Virginia Mason
Pitt
Kaiser Oakland
UCLA Harbor
Kaiser SF
PPMC
Kaiser LA
Portland St. Vincient

UCLA Olive View
Cedars Sinai

I was originally intent on going to the west coast so I did not apply to very many schools on the east coast. In hindsight, I regret not applying to more programs out east. Location is a big factor for me and I thought I would be very okay with doing residency at a community program, but I have some doubts now. Only applied to reach programs on the east coast besides Pitt so no other academic programs...

I am having second thoughts about my career/employment with a degree from a community hospital. I want to either be a hospitalist or do an ID fellowship. I really liked virginia mason and kaiser oakland, but I realize that the teaching/reputation may be better at Pitt and Harbor. I need to know how much of a disadvantage it is to get a hospitalist job at a metropolitan city coming from a community program vs. Pitt or Harbor.

Negative of Pitt is location for me. Negatives of Harbor are poor funding and I don't really want to live in Torrence, CA. I'd rather be in Seattle or SF. Is the 3 year sacrifice worth it?

I haven't been to cedars or olive view yet so I can't comment on those programs.

Getting a hospitalist gig won't be that big a deal from either a community or an academic program . . . now, though, if you're planning on possibly hospitalist, then make sure you're going to see enough in three years to be able to work without stressing yourself too much about what you don't know or haven't seen. Finding fellowship is often tougher coming from a community base program but not so much for ID, which isn't terribly competitive right now, and not a bad way to make a living actually (if you like the material). Also, you wouldn't live in Torrance (ugh), you'd live in Long Beach or Manhattan Beach or Redondo Beach (the astute will notice a pattern here)

But you are correct Pitt and Harbor are the top of that list academically

 

[jdh71]

help please - interested in heme/onc

duke
cornell
mt sinai
utsw
vanderbilt
emory
uab
uva
wake forest
georgetown

Hard to go too wrong with a list like this . . .

Duke
Vandy
Cornell = UTSW
UAB
Emory = UVA = Sinai
Wake
Georgetown

 

[jdh71]

Any thoughts on ranking these IM programs will be highly appreciated. I am interested in cardiology.

USC
Loma Linda
Wayne State university
Temple
Cedars Sinai
University of Arkansas
University of Minnesota
University of Mass
University of Arizona
Cleveland Clinic
SLU

Thanks in advance.

Minn
USC = Loma Linda = Arizona
Cedars = CCF
SLU = Mass
Wayne = Temple = Arkansas

 

[jdh71]

Hi. I am interested in Cardiology. here is my list. thanks in advance 🙂

Cornell
Mount Sinai
Yale
BU
Montefiore
Brown
Dartmouth

Cornell
Yale
Dartmouth = Sinai
BU = Montefiore = Brown

 

[chitown82]

I wasn't impressed by UW or BIDMC. You will have people who agree with your impression of programs and people who agree with my impression...it's quite subjective at some level with these programs (barring Columbia perhaps).

Uhhh not sure I agree with this. 1) Sinai is home of Dr Crohn and probably one of the best GI lumen centers in the country. Especially if the OP is interested in GI lumen in particular, it would be really surprising to rank it last. 2) Even if not interested in GI, i'm not sure how UW is being ranked lower than the BI and NW. This place is a west coast powerhouse.

I would say if strongly interested in GI:

Columbia = Sinai
UW
Northwestern = BIDMC

If want overall solid program based on national repution:
Columbia
UW
BIDMC=NW=Sinai

Great list no matter what! 👍

 

[jdh71]

(flame tiem nao?)

 

[cu23ny]

I am couples matching with my fiancee going into anesthesia.

Medicine Anesthesia

Stanford Stanford
North Carolina Duke
Oregon Oregon
UCSF UCSF
UCSD UCSD
Virginia Virgini
Emory Emory
North Carolina North Carolina
Vanderbilt Vanderbilt
Colorado Colorado
Utah Utah
UCLA UCLA
MSSM MSSM
Cornell Cornel
MSSM Cornell
Cornell Cornell
Georgetown Georgetown
George Washington George Washington

 

[gutonc]

I am couples matching with my fiancee going into anesthesia.

Medicine Anesthesia

Stanford Stanford
North Carolina Duke
Oregon Oregon
UCSF UCSF
UCSD UCSD
Virginia Virgini
Emory Emory
North Carolina North Carolina
Vanderbilt Vanderbilt
Colorado Colorado
Utah Utah
UCLA UCLA
MSSM MSSM
Cornell Cornel
MSSM Cornell
Cornell Cornell
Georgetown Georgetown
George Washington George Washington

Given your interview lists, neither of you should be matching lower than #3 so be sure you like those programs.

 

[SaoTo]

help please - interested in heme/onc

duke
cornell
mt sinai
utsw
vanderbilt
emory
uab
uva
wake forest
georgetown

Recent H/O matches of the "top-SDN" schools on your list:

Duke
-2010: Duke x3, MD Anderson, Vanderbilt, UNC
-2009: Duke, NW

Vanderbilt
-2010: Mayo, FL;
-2009: Ohio State, Vanderbilt, MD Anderson
-2008: Vanderbilt x3, UNC, USF (Moffit?), Wake Forest

Cornell
-2011: MSKCC x3, BIDMC x2, UWash
-2010: MSKCC x3, UCSF
-2009: MSKCC x6, UCSD, UPenn, UCSF
-2008: Cornell x3, Columbia, North Shore, Dana Farber, NYU x2, MSKCC, USF-Moffitt

Mount Sinai
-2010: UPenn, Mount Sinai, Hopkins, MSKCC
-2009: NW, Mount Sinai
-2008: NIH, UCSF x2, MSKCC

UTSW
-2010: Brown, Hopkins, MD Anderson, USC, UTSW x2
-2009: could not locate list
-2008*: UMich x2, WashU, Duke, UColorado, UTSW
-2007*: WashU x2, Vanderbilt, Cornell, Duke

*http://www.utsouthwestern.edu/vgn/images/portal/cit_56417/18/59/414062FELLOWSHIP_MATCH_2007.pdf

Your chances of landing a H/O fellowship at the bigger name institutes is highest at (in decreasing order):

Cornell
Mount Sinai
Duke = UTSW
Vanderbilt

unsure of the rest, but check their fellowship matches to see

 

[IMstudent82]

Can someone please elaborate on the 2010/recent cardiology matching list for USC? It seems that USC fellowship placement for cardiology is really poor. For the last 3 years, they placed only 7 residents in cardiology, of which only one matched at USC.

 

[jdh71]

Can someone please elaborate on the 2010/recent cardiology matching list for USC? It seems that USC fellowship placement for cardiology is really poor. For the last 3 years, they placed only 7 residents in cardiology, of which only one matched at USC.

How many wanted to do cards?

 

[sara223344]

Their cardiology fellowship accreditation was yanked a couple of years back because of poor teaching/supervision? Was ghat ever rectified? Perhaps that's the reason less are interested in cards there or font place well for fellowship. Anyone know anything of this?

 

[almost MD]

Howdy y'all! Interested in cardio, but slight chance of Heme-Onc or Pulm/CC. Please rank based on prestige and fellowship placement. Thanks for your help!

In alphabetical order:

Baylor
Boston
Brown
Case Western
Cleveland Clinic
Dartmouth
Indiana
JH Bayview
Mayo Clinic
Ohio St
OHSU
Oklahoma
Tulane
Wisconsin

 

[b2134]

Along the same lines, how would you rank these programs for Hem/Onc?

University of Rochester
UPMC
Tufts
Dartmouth
UMinn
UMass

Thanks!

I interviewed at most of these places and formed definite opinions. MN is strong if you want to stay in MN the rest of your life (personally I don't as much). There was a surprising amount of FMGs in the programs, considering that many people at the U of M are home grown, but MN also has a large immigrant population, which may increase their interest in recruiting foreign grads.
UPMC has the strongest reputation and has matched heme onc well. Also tons of research opportunities, but Pitt may not be everyone's cup of tea. It reminds me of somewhere between a midwest and east coast mentality, which I like, but is a smaller city with more limited options. I think they're up and coming, and out of the places I've innovated have seemed the most on top of their shizz and the upcoming changes to health care (e.g. they're making their hospital into a brand like CCF and have their own insurance, hospitals, etc. so lots of money).
Tufts has a good match and people are happy there, but might be overshadowed by some of the other Boston hospitals, and their facilities seem a little run down.
I got a weird vibe from Dartmouth, as if people were super isolated - one res said he went hiking and listened to his step 3, so I just got visions of hiking alone in the woods trying to study for boards which didn't appeal to me.
If you can handle the cities and aren't choosy, in general I'd go with:
Pitt>Rochester>MN>Tufts>Dartmouth>?UMass
Good luck!

 

[b2134]

This is what I'm thinking my rank list will be - any thoughts? I'd really like to do some international work in the future and possibly cards..
1. NYU (would like to stay in NY)
2. Pitt
3. UMich
I'm wavering between putting Pitt and Mich 2 or 3 but I really liked the feel of Pitt but not so much Mich. Most people take a year off before applying to cards which was surprising to me...I'm not sure if they need to beef up their resumes or if they just want to make money before starting fellowship. My first three are pretty much set though, just not sure what order. What I'm having most trouble with is the next set -

UTSW, BU, Tufts, Brown, U of MN, CCF, Dartmouth, Monte

I wasn't super impressed at my UTSW interview like I thought I would be. Most likely I'll end up ranking BU and Brown next but I'm really not sure.
Any suggestions? Thanks!!

 

[gold&black2005]

Nice work, SaoTo. Vandy's internal rep for h/o is quite strong but I hadn't realized the variability of the rest of its list.

What this also goes to show is that a number of solid programs will place you well for H/O. UVa has sent people to Hopkins and MSKCC in the last few years - so the OP is well-set at a lot of these programs. Cornell does seem to have particular strength in H/O, though, and that can't be ignored.

That said, I'd do this.

Cornell
Duke
UTSW = MSSM
UVA = Vandy
Emory = UAB
Gtown = Wake

Recent H/O matches of the "top-SDN" schools on your list:

Duke
-2010: Duke x3, MD Anderson, Vanderbilt, UNC
-2009: Duke, NW

Vanderbilt
-2010: Mayo, FL;
-2009: Ohio State, Vanderbilt, MD Anderson
-2008: Vanderbilt x3, UNC, USF (Moffit?), Wake Forest

Cornell
-2011: MSKCC x3, BIDMC x2, UWash
-2010: MSKCC x3, UCSF
-2009: MSKCC x6, UCSD, UPenn, UCSF
-2008: Cornell x3, Columbia, North Shore, Dana Farber, NYU x2, MSKCC, USF-Moffitt

Mount Sinai
-2010: UPenn, Mount Sinai, Hopkins, MSKCC
-2009: NW, Mount Sinai
-2008: NIH, UCSF x2, MSKCC

UTSW
-2010: Brown, Hopkins, MD Anderson, USC, UTSW x2
-2009: could not locate list
-2008*: UMich x2, WashU, Duke, UColorado, UTSW
-2007*: WashU x2, Vanderbilt, Cornell, Duke

*http://www.utsouthwestern.edu/vgn/images/portal/cit_56417/18/59/414062FELLOWSHIP_MATCH_2007.pdf

Your chances of landing a H/O fellowship at the bigger name institutes is highest at (in decreasing order):

Cornell
Mount Sinai
Duke = UTSW
Vanderbilt

unsure of the rest, but check their fellowship matches to see

 

[gold&black2005]

Howdy y'all! Interested in cardio, but slight chance of Heme-Onc or Pulm/CC. Please rank based on prestige and fellowship placement. Thanks for your help!

In alphabetical order:

Baylor
Boston
Brown
Case Western
Cleveland Clinic
Dartmouth
Indiana
JH Bayview
Mayo Clinic
Ohio St
OHSU
Oklahoma
Tulane
Wisconsin

Mayo
Wisconsin (best-kept secret on the trail)
Baylor = Case Western = OHSU
BU = JHU Bayview = Tulane
CCF = Dartmouth = OSU
Brown = Indiana
Oklahoma

 

[gold&black2005]

This is what I'm thinking my rank list will be - any thoughts? I'd really like to do some international work in the future and possibly cards..
1. NYU (would like to stay in NY)
2. Pitt
3. UMich
I'm wavering between putting Pitt and Mich 2 or 3 but I really liked the feel of Pitt but not so much Mich. Most people take a year off before applying to cards which was surprising to me...I'm not sure if they need to beef up their resumes or if they just want to make money before starting fellowship. My first three are pretty much set though, just not sure what order. What I'm having most trouble with is the next set -

UTSW, BU, Tufts, Brown, U of MN, CCF, Dartmouth, Monte

I wasn't super impressed at my UTSW interview like I thought I would be. Most likely I'll end up ranking BU and Brown next but I'm really not sure.
Any suggestions? Thanks!!

Since you want to stay in NYC, keep NYU one. Otherwise, UMich would be #1 by reputation --- but here's the thing: you didn't like it. We can all sit here and argue out nuances of fellowship placement. You have to go to that program, however, not us - and if you'll be miserable there, then what was the point? You won't reach the potential you would have at a program where you felt happy and supported.

So despite my best inclinations, keep 1-3 as they are - unless you are strongly considering global, in which case move Pitt to one. (I could probably make an argument for Michigan #1 global as well but you don't want to go there, haha)

UTSW is a fantastic program but not for everyone.

Given your global interests, I would rank Brown or UMinn next - both very substantive global health programs. BU would go afterward, then the rest as you like.

Go with your gut. 🙂

 

[Awmercer]

Interested in Cards. I get the impression that my top are very similar programs, albeit in 3 entirely different locales. Thoughts?

UMiami
USC
Montefiore
Scripps Green
Temple
Jeff
SUNY Downstate
Drexel
PSU

 

[cardsorbust]

Mayo
Wisconsin (best-kept secret on the trail)
Baylor = Case Western = OHSU
BU = JHU Bayview = Tulane
CCF = Dartmouth = OSU
Brown = Indiana
Oklahoma

From what I have seen I would argue that JHU Bayview is the best kept secret on the trail...unless you think it's not a secret:
http://www.hopkinsbayview.org/medicine/residency/lifeafterresidency.html

Madison is a great town (much more lively than Rochester, MN) and that's a great hospital for sure.

I don't know all the programs but people from Baylor have told me it has gone down significantly in the past few years.

 

[MedApps]

Interested in Cards. I get the impression that my top are very similar programs, albeit in 3 entirely different locales. Thoughts?

UMiami
USC
Montefiore
Scripps Green
Temple
Jeff
SUNY Downstate
Drexel
PSU

Your top three definitely are similar except for location............do you like hot and humid, warm and dry or the change in seasons? Personally So Cal and USC would be number one in my book, but Miami is also beautiful. I would also probably lower Jeff below Drexel and bring Downstate and Drexel up a notch.

 

[TX2007]

Howdy y'all! Interested in cardio, but slight chance of Heme-Onc or Pulm/CC. Please rank based on prestige and fellowship placement. Thanks for your help!

In alphabetical order:

Baylor
Boston
Brown
Case Western
Cleveland Clinic
Dartmouth
Indiana
JH Bayview
Mayo Clinic
Ohio St
OHSU
Oklahoma
Tulane
Wisconsin

Mayo=JH Bayview (depend on where you want to live, you need to interview at Bayview to see how awesome the program is)
Wisconsin=Indiana=Baylor ( I am from Texas and Baylor did not impress me at all)
Case=OSU=OHSU=Cleveland
Boston=Brown
the rest

 

[mcdoc11]

Also thinking about cards (original, I know), Got my top 3 pretty set, but struggling with the middle of my list (4-11). Slight Southern bias, but willing to head up north for a better program.

In Random Order:

UTSW
UVa
UNC
BID
UAB
Emory
Yale
Vandy

 

[IMstudent82]

Why is yale ranked so low?

 

[sara223344]

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