Official Rank List Help Thread 2010-2011

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cardimg said:
Appreciate the advice, interested in cards.

Boston Univ
Univ of Minnesota
UAB
Baylor
Hopkins - Bayview
Univ of Maryland
Washington Hospital, dc
Temple
Univ of Miami - Jackson
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UAB- Baylor- Bayview=Maryland- Minn- the rest


federation said:
I'm looking to be in DC or surrounding area while preparing for an IM career. I don't anticipate doing a fellowship at this time. I asked about Spanish-speaking populations at all interviews and got vague answers just about everywhere. Which places would you recommend for greater Hispanic populations and how would you factor it into the rest of residency considerations? While that's an interest of mine, I want a solid medicine background to set me up well for practicing in whatever environment I find myself down the road. As an mid-tier school AMG with an average IM application, do I need to risk ranking the Virginia programs and being 2.5 hrs from DC or should DC/Baltimore suffice?

---current thoughts:
GWU
WHC
Maryland
Georgetown
UVA
VCU
---probably won't rank:
Hopkins-Sinai
Howard

Thanks!
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UVA
Maryland
VCU
Georgetown
GW
WHC


infarct said:
Simply answering the question: The Spanish speaking population in Richmond is tiny (mostly non-immigrant caucasion and non-immigrant black americans). It's small in Baltimore as well. Charlottesville...small. DC has by far the largest Spanish speaking population.
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I've lived in Richmond, Charlottesville and Baltimore.
The south side of Richmond has a huge hispanic population from El Salvador, Mexico and Guatemala.

Baltimore has a very small population. Charlottesville's hispanic population is almost non-existent.
 
Hi, can anybody help me rank these programs based upon reputation + program quality? (I'm currently undecided about whether I'd like to sub-specialize. No cards, GI maybe, endocrine maybe).

Thanks so much, in advance.

USC
UC Irvine
Cedars Sinai
UCLA Harbor
OHSU
Baylor
Emory
UNC
Vanderbilt
 
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sierramist said:
Hi, can anybody help me rank these programs based upon reputation + program quality? (I'm currently undecided about whether I'd like to sub-specialize. No cards, GI maybe, endocrine maybe).

Thanks so much, in advance.

USC
UC Irvine
Cedars Sinai
UCLA Harbor
OHSU
Baylor
Emory
UNC
Vanderbilt
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Vandy
Emory = Baylor = UNC = OHSU (Oregon wins this battle easy in my book)
Irvine
USC
Cedars = Harbor
 
jdh71 said:
Vandy
Emory = Baylor = UNC = OHSU (Oregon wins this battle easy in my book)
Irvine
USC
Cedars = Harbor
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why do you think Irvine is higher than USC, Harbor, and Cedars? In my view those 4 are all pretty equivalent yet different style programs.
 
Another one of these threads but your input is really appreciated! I'm trying to rank:
UMDNJ-Newark
Montefiore
Beth Israel
UMDNJ-Camden (Cooper)
Temple

How would you order these in terms of quality of program, fellowship placement, curriculum, and overall happiness of residents?
 
nope80 said:
Another one of these threads but your input is really appreciated! I'm trying to rank:
UMDNJ-Newark
Montefiore
Beth Israel
UMDNJ-Camden (Cooper)
Temple

How would you order these in terms of quality of program, fellowship placement, curriculum, and overall happiness of residents?
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I would rank the following:

1. Montefiore
2. Temple
3. UMDNJ-Newark
4. Beth Israel
5. UMDNJ-Camden
 
anyone? =] thx

TX4Lyfe said:
Any input on how these rank based on academic "reputation." Kinda targeted three areas but I have no restriction in geography b/w them. Thanks a bunch!!

Baylor
UTHSCSA
UTH
UIC
Loyola
Rush
UCI
USC
Cedars
Scripps
UCLA-OV
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Someone told me that residents don't write progress notes at UC Irvine's University Hospital because only their attendings' notes count.
Is that true or is that false hearsay?
 
Interested in GI

UWisconsin
UTSW
UAB
Northwestern
USC
Utah
Case
Tulane
U Minn
U Iowa
WF
SLU
 
sierramist said:
Someone told me that residents don't write progress notes at UC Irvine's University Hospital because only their attendings' notes count.
Is that true or is that false hearsay?
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I interviewed there this year and I think that the residents mentioned something about that. It's hazy now(hazier than I thought it would be), but was it because they still have paper charts in some locations? Anyway, the more I think about it the more I remember hearing that residents didn't always have to write notes because the attendings did.

Also: while I brought up paper charts, I vividly remember that most charting components at UCI are electronic EXCEPT the vital signs! The interns told me that every morning, they have to spend ~1/2 an hour running around the hospital to find paper charts and copy down vitals. The good news is that it was something they all volunteered though, as they thought that was easily one of the most irksome features of their program.
 
Please rank based on teaching, reputation and oncology.


Cornell
U Chicago
Mt Sinai
Mayo Clinic-Rochester, MN
Northwestern
Barnes-Jewish WashU
U Michigan
Cleveland Clinic
GWU
Georgetown
Tufts
Dartmouth
Emory
USC
Jefferson
Emory
Mayo-Jacksonville
Boston U

These are in no particular order.
 
This is how I would rank them:

WashU=Chicago=Michigan (all around great IM programs with strong teaching, research, and competitive fellowship matches; pick the location you like best)
Cornell=Mayo=Northwestern (you could rank Cornell higher because of MSK - especially if you desire to go to MSK)
Mt Sinai=Emory
BU
The rest.


ArtOMed said:
Please rank based on teaching, reputation and oncology.


Cornell
U Chicago
Mt Sinai
Mayo Clinic-Rochester, MN
Northwestern
Barnes-Jewish WashU
U Michigan
Cleveland Clinic
GWU
Georgetown
Tufts
Dartmouth
Emory
USC
Jefferson
Emory
Mayo-Jacksonville
Boston U

These are in no particular order.
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chitown82 said:
This is how I would rank them:

WashU=Chicago=Michigan (all around great IM programs with strong teaching, research, and competitive fellowship matches; pick the location you like best)
Cornell=Mayo=Northwestern (you could rank Cornell higher because of MSK - especially if you desire to go to MSK)
Mt Sinai=Emory
BU
The rest.
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My only disagreement with this would be to put Sinai in the Cornell/Mayo/NW tier.
 
ArtOMed said:
Please rank based on teaching, reputation and oncology.

Cornell
U Chicago
Mt Sinai
Mayo Clinic-Rochester, MN
Northwestern
Barnes-Jewish WashU
U Michigan
Cleveland Clinic
GWU
Georgetown
Tufts
Dartmouth
Emory
USC
Jefferson
Emory
Mayo-Jacksonville
Boston U

These are in no particular order.
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I likes 'em like . . .

WashU
Cornell = Michigan
Chicago = Mayo = MSSM
NWern = Emory
Dartmouth
Tufts = BU = USC
The rest
 
But you would say that monte is a very different environment than RWJ as well, right? Thats definitely the feel I got from interview day. It seemed as though monte residents were overworked, and not in a good way. did others feel that way?

Now that I examine the fellowship placement list, seems like monte does better than RWJ? Any thoughts about this?
 
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nope80 said:
But you would say that monte is a very different environment than RWJ as well, right? Thats definitely the feel I got from interview day. It seemed as though monte residents were overworked, and not in a good way. did others feel that way?

Now that I examine the fellowship placement list, seems like monte does better than RWJ? Any thoughts about this?
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what does "better" mean?
 
jdh71 said:
what does "better" mean?
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better in terms of prestige, quality, name, etc.

Pretty much my decision is coming down between the two of them and i'm really not sure what to do!! I think if I had a better sense of how crazy busy monte really is, I would be better suited to make a decision.

Does anyone have an idea about what a typical floor day at monte would be like?
 
This is an issue I've been struggling with for a while and am need of/seeking help of those active on sdn. I'm considering cards or renal. When in comes down to it, I'm having a issue between feel of a program vs reputation vs even location.

I am confident about the training in all 3 programs - I had the best 'feel' at Duke, however, while not as bad as everyone says, city-wise, it is true that Durham is by far no NY or Boston. I liked the autonomy of the program, research, and city for Columbia - although there was a hardworking vibe, I definitely felt comfortable in that everyone was capable and considerate. For Brigham, it's probably the least favorite 'feel' of the 3 with a little too much emphasis on academics than I'd personally like, but the overall reputation seems to be more respected in the medical field.

I'm not too sure if anyone is in the same boat, but if anyone can give any advice on what they thought seperated the 3 or how they would rank them, please give me a reply if you can.
 
GoldenBoyGC said:
This is an issue I've been struggling with for a while and am need of/seeking help of those active on sdn. I'm considering cards or renal. When in comes down to it, I'm having a issue between feel of a program vs reputation vs even location.

I am confident about the training in all 3 programs - I had the best 'feel' at Duke, however, while not as bad as everyone says, city-wise, it is true that Durham is by far no NY or Boston. I liked the autonomy of the program, research, and city for Columbia - although there was a hardworking vibe, I definitely felt comfortable in that everyone was capable and considerate. For Brigham, it's probably the least favorite 'feel' of the 3 with a little too much emphasis on academics than I'd personally like, but the overall reputation seems to be more respected in the medical field.

I'm not too sure if anyone is in the same boat, but if anyone can give any advice on what they thought seperated the 3 or how they would rank them, please give me a reply if you can.
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The differences between these places for all practical academic purposes is negligent.

Duke is the schiznit. If you liked it best, rank it one. It's only three years and can easily land you fellowship back in in any of them "fancy" places to live very easily.
 
UCSD vs. Colorado vs. OHSU...thoughts on order? Interested in onc.
 
Interested in GI for fellowship

AE-Montefiore
Rush
Jefferson
Emory
Hopkins Bayview
Maryland
Georgetown
Baylor
UT-San Antonio
UNC
Wake Forest
 
hey guys interested in cards or pulm, thanks!

UIC - Chicago
U of Arizona
Loma Linda
Umass
Northshore/uofc
utmb
scott white - a&m
einstein - philly
 
Hi,

Any help Ranking these 6 programs please would be greatly appreciated.

Preference is IM Fellowship after Residency:

Internal Medicine
- NYMC Montefiore North Div
- Abington
- Seton Hall

Internal Medicine Pediatrics
- Saint Louis University
- Maine Medical Center
- Case Western Reserve Univ - Metrohealth

Thanks in advance for your help.
 
coolch said:
Hi,

Any help Ranking these 6 programs please would be greatly appreciated.

Preference is IM Fellowship after Residency:

Internal Medicine
- NYMC Montefiore North Div
- Abington
- Seton Hall

Internal Medicine Pediatrics
- Saint Louis University
- Maine Medical Center
- Case Western Reserve Univ - Metrohealth

Thanks in advance for your help.
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Ohhh...from your other thread I didn't realize that by "OK program" you meant "quite atrocious program."

I'd go:
SLU
Case-Metro
MMC
Seton Hall
Abington
Monte North (affiliation with Monte is largely name only)
 
Thanks gutonc, for your time and comments.

I too was thinking along the same lines - since the IM progs are not great, ranking med-peds above seems better.

thanks again.
 
Hi - I'm interested in GI, location doesn't matter. How would you guys rank the following?

MGH
BID
BU
Yale
Columbia
Cornell
Mt. Sinai
NYU
Penn
Hopkins
Duke
UChicago

Thanks!
 
Anon527 said:
Hi - I'm interested in GI, location doesn't matter. How would you guys rank the following?

MGH
BID
BU
Yale
Columbia
Cornell
Mt. Sinai
NYU
Penn
Hopkins
Duke
UChicago

Thanks!
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Are you serious? If you really don't have a favorite, put all the names into a hat and pull them out and that would be about as good of a rank order as anything anyone here would give you.
 
Anon527 said:
Hi - I'm interested in GI, location doesn't matter. How would you guys rank the following?

MGH
BID
BU
Yale
Columbia
Cornell
Mt. Sinai
NYU
Penn
Hopkins
Duke
UChicago

Thanks!
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For GI...

MGH (it's MGH, you call the shots)
Hopkins (elite IM program but cards heavy, with your choices you would not be crazy having JH lower on the list)
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UChicago
Mt. Sinai
Columbia
Penn
Duke
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BID
Yale
Cornell
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NYU
BU
 
Any thoughts on the program? Does it prepare residents to handle any pathology presented? Is the environment too friendly? how is the reputation nationally as to acquire fellowships outside of the program? Thank you for you responses and best of luck
 
My buddy's there, he likes it. Supposedly its got good Pulm/CC faculty/fellowship...that's what he wants to do.

Regarding the environment being "TOO friendly"...wow, I didn't think I'd ever read that on SDN!?

Explain yourself!

Knight21 said:
Any thoughts on the program? Does it prepare residents to handle any pathology presented? Is the environment too friendly? how is the reputation nationally as to acquire fellowships outside of the program? Thank you for you responses and best of luck
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Agreed.

KRichards62 said:
For GI...

MGH (it's MGH, you call the shots)
Hopkins (elite IM program but cards heavy, with your choices you would not be crazy having JH lower on the list)
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UChicago
Mt. Sinai
Columbia
Penn
Duke
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BID
Yale
Cornell
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NYU
BU
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here's my list. i am interested in medium competitive and low competitive fellowships. my interest is to balance location and education. i really have no #1 yet!!!! help!

case western university hospital
university of rochester
UAB
univ of minnesota
UIC
university of chicago
utsw
LIJ
montefiore
lenox hill
usf
 
sulfura rosa said:
here's my list. i am interested in medium competitive and low competitive fellowships. my interest is to balance location and education. i really have no #1 yet!!!! help!

case western university hospital
university of rochester
UAB
univ of minnesota
UIC
university of chicago
utsw
LIJ
montefiore
lenox hill
usf
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UTSW
Chicago
UAB
Minn
Case = Rochester
Monte = UIC
rest
 
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jdh71 said:
UTSW
Chicago
UAB
Minn
Case = Rochester
Monte = UIC
rest
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Once again...you screwed it up. I thought we agreed, Texas sucks.

But seriously...what he said...except I'd put Chicago first because I can't stand Texas. If UTSW were in any state other than Texas (or Florida), it would be a hard program to top.
 
jdh71 said:
Nice list I think. Maybe something like this.

UTSW
Wisconsin = UAB = NWern
Minn = Iowa = Utah = WF
Case = USC = Tulane
SLU
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I would strongly disagree with putting SLU last if you're thinking purely about getting a GI fellowship. They have their own program and give strong preference to their own, whereas some of the other programs on your list are competitive enough that they might pick an outsider over you. I interviewed there, and the PD said they match something like 95% into their desired fellowship. It obviously isn't the best place if want to go to a big name GI program, but it would virtually guarantee you a GI match.
 
In terms of reputation, is Northwestern significantly stronger or is the difference too small to even play a factor in my decision? I want to pursue a heme-onc fellowship and while I would prefer to live in SD, I also want to make sure I secure a heme-onc fellowship and would definitely go to Northwestern if it meant I'd have more opportunities in the future.
I'm also somewhat concerned about the previous malignant reputation of UCSD and the quirkiness of the program director.
 
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