Official Rank List Thread 2008-2009

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phishman10 said:
I would have to agree with BGriffin on this, worry about the things you can actually control and hope for the best. The whole process can be stressful, especially the subjective nature of the 3rd year, but it all works out. Most people from american medical schools do very well matching in internal medicine and you have great scores on Step 1 with extensive research. Also, I know of some people with poor clerkship grades who got some big interviews with that level of research.

On another note, my rank list needs to be certified within the week and i still can not decide on how to rank UVa vs UNC. Any thoughts/help would be greatly appreciated.
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Okay, enough with the chances/bashing responses. Start another thread if you want to discuss those things.

PHISHMAN, as for your question. I would go to UNC. First off, I like the location better. Chapel Hill is a pretty cool and young spot (not sure if you are single, etc). I didn't interview at either programs, but I definitely heard a lot more buzz about UNC than UVa. Also, if you are set on hem/onc, then I think going to a place with BMTU would definitely be more interesting for you personally. Now, I might be wrong, but when I was discussing programs I wanted to interview at with my advisor, she definitely mentioned UNC (ended up canceling cause I'm more of a big city person). Anyway, good luck to you. You're going to end up at a great place either way.
 
dreamfox said:
Okay, enough with the chances/bashing responses. Start another thread if you want to discuss those things.

PHISHMAN, as for your question. I would go to UNC. First off, I like the location better. Chapel Hill is a pretty cool and young spot (not sure if you are single, etc). I didn't interview at either programs, but I definitely heard a lot more buzz about UNC than UVa. Also, if you are set on hem/onc, then I think going to a place with BMTU would definitely be more interesting for you personally. Now, I might be wrong, but when I was discussing programs I wanted to interview at with my advisor, she definitely mentioned UNC (ended up canceling cause I'm more of a big city person). Anyway, good luck to you. You're going to end up at a great place either way.
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I would say UNC bc supposedly they have just built a brand new huge cancer hospital that the state has committed a lot of money to...i think they are a top benign heme program as well. as far as training in residency, not much different i would guess. both great, so a matter of suburban/rural (cville) versus suburban/metro area (triangle) and personal fit.
 
as it stands currently....

1. UCSF
2. MGH
3. BWH
4. UW
5. BIDMC
6. OHSU
7. Stanford
8. BU
9. UPMC
10. Tufts

I am interested in academic general internal medicine and primary care.
 
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Brian Griffin said:
Any thoughts/opinions on University of Pittsburgh (UPMC) vs. Tufts?

Those programs are in my top two, and I'm still not sure which will be number one. I see advantages and disadvantages of living in both Pittsburgh and Boston (when considering cost of living, proximity to family/friends, fun factor, etc). Fellowship placement is not really a priority issue for me (I'm interested in general medicine, or if anything, maybe endocrine or rheum).

I'd really appreciate some feedback!
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I would (and did) put UPMC higher because they have a generalist pathway and Tufts is very subspecialty-focused (my interviewer mentioned this as well.) If I remember correctly, they have a tiny or nonexistent general medicine ward service! It's all cards, pulm, renal, ID, etc.
 
mem141 said:
as it stands currently....

1. UCSF
2. MGH
3. BWH
4. UW
5. BIDMC
6. OHSU
7. Stanford
8. BU
9. UPMC
10. Tufts

I am interested in academic general internal medicine and primary care.
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I think your list doesn't need to be changed if you're planning on gen int med. Congrats, that's a great list.
 
mem141 said:
as it stands currently....

1. UCSF
2. MGH
3. BWH
4. UW
5. BIDMC
6. OHSU
7. Stanford
8. BU
9. UPMC
10. Tufts

I am interested in academic general internal medicine and primary care.
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Based on your interest in GIM only I would consider putting UW up above MGH/BWH. Your colleagues at UW will be much more similar to you and the emphasis on GIM will be much greater. That being said, if you preferred the Boston programs for other reasons location etc. you obviously can do great coming out of any of the programs on the list. Its just a question of whether you want to be around people with similar interests vs a group predominately going into fellowships.
 
rosving said:
I would say UNC bc supposedly they have just built a brand new huge cancer hospital that the state has committed a lot of money to...i think they are a top benign heme program as well. as far as training in residency, not much different i would guess. both great, so a matter of suburban/rural (cville) versus suburban/metro area (triangle) and personal fit.
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I would also put UNC over UVa.... not only because of the new hospital but we also have BMT unit which you can rotate through as an elective. And you can't beat Dr Alice Ma as a teacher...she is awesome!!!
 
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Thank you everyone for your responses regarding my residency program choices. I forgot to mention that I am from CA and would like to come to CA if possible. In the end, I'm starting to realize its more of where you feel the most comfortable and imagine yourself being happy ---> only problem is figuring that out!

Goodluck to everyone!
 
Reddpoint said:
Based on your interest in GIM only I would consider putting UW up above MGH/BWH. Your colleagues at UW will be much more similar to you and the emphasis on GIM will be much greater. That being said, if you preferred the Boston programs for other reasons location etc. you obviously can do great coming out of any of the programs on the list. Its just a question of whether you want to be around people with similar interests vs a group predominately going into fellowships.
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CanIMakeIt said:
Wouldn't UW and OHSU be stronger in teaching general interanl medicine (out patient kind) rather than inpatient focus with all the other big hitter?? Just asking.
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For those of you questioning mem's choice, did y'all interview at UCSF, BWH, or MGH? UCSF has two phenomenal primary care tracks and a huge gen IM focus. Have y'all been to SFGH-- diverse underseved population, right there. I didn't interview at the brigham (but I know they have an interesting social medicine), but MGH has a wonderful primary program as well and a more diverse population compared to the other Harvard affiliated hospitals.. I interviewed at UW, and was quite impressed, but I think UCSF far exceeds UW in terms of primary care. Just my 2 cents.
 
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For those of you questioning mem's choice, did y'all interview at UCSF, BWH, or MGH? UCSF has two phenomenal primary care tracks and a huge gen IM focus. Have y'all been to SFGH-- diverse underseved population, right there. I didn't interview at the brigham (but I know they have an interesting social medicine), but MGH has a wonderful primary program as well and a more diverse population compared to the other Harvard affiliated hospitals.. I interviewed at UW, and was quite impressed, but I think UCSF far exceeds UW in terms of primary care. Just my 2 cents.
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I agree completely that UCSF is similar to UW and for GIM Id pick between them based on location. BWH/MGH just seemed more fellowship/research oriented vs PC/GIM. On my interview day at UW I got the strong impression that GIM faculty members were valued and had the potential for advancement. This fact was not highlighted at UCSF on my interview day but that doesnt mean its not true. Whether having strong GIM faculty is really important I cannot say, but my own impression that the best were at UW followed by UCSF.
 
Reddpoint said:
I agree completely that UCSF is similar to UW and for GIM Id pick between them based on location. BWH/MGH just seemed more fellowship/research oriented vs PC/GIM. On my interview day at UW I got the strong impression that GIM faculty members were valued and had the potential for advancement. This fact was not highlighted at UCSF on my interview day but that doesnt mean its not true. Whether having strong GIM faculty is really important I cannot say, but my own impression that the best were at UW followed by UCSF.
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Interesting. My interviewer at UW flat out told me that they are trying to model everything after UCSF, and that they weren't there yet. She said if I was choosing b/t the two, she thinks UCSF would be a better place to train. I was shocked she said that, but happy she could be candid about the program. I had a chance to talk to primary care residents at both UW, UCSF, and MGH. All seemed happy about their programs and I'm convinced that all will be trained well.
 
Hi guys, I've been sort of watching from afar because you guys are in different league than I am, but I was wondering if you can help me with my list. I'm couple's matching with my husband (radiology) and he is letting me pick the order of the list, but I basically have to rank all the following. I'm interested in endocrinology and I just want to be happy with my husband these next few years. In no particular order:
Mayo Jacksonville
University of South Florida
Medical College of Georgia
University of Florida Gainesville
University of Florida Jacksonville
Eastern Virginia Medical School
University of Tennessee
Stony Brook
Mercer/Memorial Savannah
St. Lukes/Roosevelt
Mt. Sinai Miami
Robert Wood Johnson Camden
Winthrop
 
I,m looking for an internal medicine residency but I'm interested in pursuing cardiology. I need all the help I can get my options are

1. cleveland clinic found
2. Mount Sinai at Miami
3. Rush
4. Clevelanf Clinic flrida

thanks.
 
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andrespine said:
I,m looking for an internal medicine residency but I'm interested in pursuing cardiology. I need all the help I can get my options are

1. cleveland clinic found
2. Mount Sinai at Miami
3. Rush
4. Clevelanf Clinic flrida

thanks.
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Spelling class?
 
Need some help here, and any input is greatly appreciated. As crazy as this sounds, reputation doesn't matter that much to me. I just want a place that's pretty balanced - great location, happy residents, and ability to match in decent fellowships. I need a good balance of everything if that makes sense.
In no specific order:
1) AECOM-Montefiore
2) UPitt
3) Emory
4) Mayo
5) Boston University
6) USC
7) University of Wisconsin-Madison
8) UCLA-Harbor
9) Kaiser LA
10) Kaiser Oakland
11) Kaiser SF
12) Georgetown

Thanks so much guys! 😀
 
I need some help with my RoL, esp. with ranks 2-7. I do not have a geographic preference and want to do a Cardiology Fellowship (or possibly Pulmonary / Critical Care). So, here's what it looks like :

1 U Alabama Med Ctr-Birmingham
2 WSU/Detroit Med Ctr-MI
3 LSUHSC-Shreveport-LA
4 U Oklahoma COM-OK City
5 Pitt County Mem Hosp/Brody SOM (East Carolina University)-NC
6 U Texas Med Branch-Galveston
7 Methodist Hospital-Houston-TX
8 Howard Univ Hosp-DC
9 Pennsylvania Hospital
10 Staten Island U Hosp-NY
11 St Francis Hosp-Evanston-IL
12 RFUMS/Chicago Med Sch-IL
13 Bronx Lebanon Hosp-NY
14 U Alabama Med Ctr-Montgomery
15 Harbor Hospital Ctr-MD
16 UPMC McKeesport-PA
17 Woodhull Med Ctr-NY

Any comments / opinions are welcome
 
ranmyaku, so sassy! where's your list?

as for the above comments on my rank list, thank you for your advice. UW and OHSU are both great institutions and i'd be happy at either one. as for why MGH and BWH are higher, there are several reasons.
1) i am more sure that i want to do academic IM than i am of wanting to do general medicine, and i can't dispute the fellowship opportunities coming out of bwh/mgh.
2) additionally, both of these programs have a dedicated primary care program director, which UW does not offer and i believe speaks well of their dedication to the program. BWH and UCSF also require a second interview day for primary care applicants, also indicative to me of their dedication to the program as a separate entity within the larger program. MGH has the largest GIM faculty in the country.
3) as i know i want to stay in academia, i anticipate more flexibility in finding a spot as a clinician-educator coming out of one of my top 3 rather than UW/OHSU. as in, probably easier to get on faculty at UW coming from MGH than vice versa. (and before you get all excited, this is just one of my reasons, and I know MGH faculty who trained at UW, so I know it can happen too.)
4) and last but not least, i have a family and, being a good partner, am taking my spouse's wishes and career path into consideration when i make my list.

like i said, i'd be happy at any of them.
 
Any thoughts on Pitt vs. Colorado in terms of overall training and non-cards fellowship placement (renal, maybe CC)?

They keep switching on my ROL now that my interview days are fading in my memory. Thanks!
 
Wenckebach said:
Any thoughts on Pitt vs. Colorado in terms of overall training and non-cards fellowship placement (renal, maybe CC)?

They keep switching on my ROL now that my interview days are fading in my memory. Thanks!
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I can't say I know much about Pitt because I didn't interview there, but I can give you my take on Colorado.

First off, they are making some very nice changes at the Colorado program starting next year. They got rid of the ER rotation at University Hospital which a lot of the residents disliked. They are adding in 2 months of elective time your intern year and 2 months of elective time your R2 year. I also heard they are doing away with overnight call and moving to a total night float system (they were previously night float sun-thursday and overnight on friday and saturday night - atleast at University Hospital, not sure about Denver Health and the VA).

I think Colorado has a much better location - 320 days of sunshine, the mountains, a young and fun city, lots of things to do.

As for fellowship, I would say cards and GI aren't Colorado's strongest points, but everything else is awesome. If you are interested in Pulm/CC, Colorado is probably THE place to be. National Jewish is ranked #1 in the country (USNEWS - yeah I know these rankings suck, but it's all we've got) and University Hospital is #11. University Hospital is also #15 in renal.

The residents at Colorado all seem very down to earth and aren't trying to shoot each other down. The chairman of medicine also attends almost all morning reports and is a very nice and supportive guy.

My $0.02.
 
1 U Alabama Med Ctr-Birmingham
2 WSU/Detroit Med Ctr-MI
3 LSUHSC-Shreveport-LA
4 U Oklahoma COM-OK City
5 Pitt County Mem Hosp/Brody SOM (East Carolina University)-NC
6 U Texas Med Branch-Galveston
7 Methodist Hospital-Houston-TX
8 Howard Univ Hosp-DC
 
HB921 said:
1 U Alabama Med Ctr-Birmingham
2 WSU/Detroit Med Ctr-MI
3 LSUHSC-Shreveport-LA
4 U Oklahoma COM-OK City
5 Pitt County Mem Hosp/Brody SOM (East Carolina University)-NC
6 U Texas Med Branch-Galveston
7 Methodist Hospital-Houston-TX
8 Howard Univ Hosp-DC
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I will keep UAB #1. The only other places that I know of are U Oklahoma, which is supposed to have been really good at one time in elctrophysiology with a great cardiology program, so will definitely put that #2 or 3. Also, ECU (East Carolina) has a good cardiology program and they like to take their own. UTMB is just opening up with few of the Ob and med beds...not sure about their future .. I would put methodist higher in top 5 for sure ... it is in the texas medical center and there are so many opportunities to hook up with people in cardiology just due to your proximity (not to mention Texas Heart/St Luke, UT-Houston, and Baylor are right there for you to do research) ..

So I would keep UAB #1 without doubt and then play with 2, 3, and 4 depending on where you want to live and where you got good feel ...

1 U Alabama Med Ctr-Birmingham
2 U Oklahoma COM-OK City
3 Pitt County Mem Hosp/Brody SOM (East Carolina University)-NC
4 Methodist Hospital-Houston-TX
5 WSU/Detroit Med Ctr-MI
6 LSUHSC-Shreveport-LA
7 U Texas Med Branch-Galveston
8 Howard Univ Hosp-DC

Good Luck
 
Wenckebach said:
Any thoughts on Pitt vs. Colorado in terms of overall training and non-cards fellowship placement (renal, maybe CC)?

They keep switching on my ROL now that my interview days are fading in my memory. Thanks!
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CC, I have heard, is strong at Colorado ... place is better than Pitt (i don't like cold places...my bias), ... training wise I don't think you can go wrong at either...

Good Luck
 
Can you guys help with mine?
Mayo Jacksonville
University of South Florida
Medical College of Georgia
University of Florida Gainesville
University of Florida Jacksonville
Eastern Virginia Medical School
University of Tennessee
Stony Brook
Mercer/Memorial Savannah
St. Lukes/Roosevelt
Mt. Sinai Miami
Robert Wood Johnson Camden
Winthrop
 
ranmyaku said:
Spelling class?
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Sorry about the spelling, I wrote that at a late hour and in quite a hurry. Besides the spelling comment, does any one have any help for me???
Let me start again.
My options are:
1. Cleveland Clinic Foundation in Cleveland Ohio
2. Mount Sinai in Miami
3. Rush
4. Cleveland Clinic in Florida

I'm interested in IM and later on in Cardiology. Any advice anyone?
Thanks again.
 
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andrespine said:
Sorry about the spelling, I wrote that at a late hour and in quite a hurry. Besides the spelling comment, does any one have any help for me???
Let me start again.
My options are:
1. Cleveland Clinic Foundation in Cleveland Ohio
2. Mount Sinai in Miami
3. Rush
4. Cleveland Clinic in Florida

I'm interested in IM and later on in Cardiology. Any advice anyone?
Thanks again.
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I think CC in Cleveland is your best program, especially if you are interested in cards.
 
CanIMakeIt said:
CC, I have heard, is strong at Colorado ... place is better than Pitt (i don't like cold places...my bias), ... training wise I don't think you can go wrong at either...

Good Luck
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I'm applying in pulmonary/critical care right now. Colorado is a great place to learn pulmonary medicine and has pretty interesting research in that area. Their critical care is not all that special. What makes their P/CC program so great is their Pulm. Pitt, on the other hand, has a great critical care fellowship separate from their P/CC fellowship. It's a very strong program with respect to critical care, but their pulm is OK.
 
I'll preface my posting with the following info: I am couples matching and we have tons of family in the NC/VA/MD area, so my list is heavily influenced by these factors and may not be the "expected" list.

1. Duke
2. UNC
3. Hopkins
4. Vanderbilt
5. Wake Forest
6. Emory
7. Brown
8. Penn
9. BIDMC
10. Pitt
11. UVA

Declined interviews at MGH, BWH, UCSF, Colorado, U Wash.
If I had been in this alone, I probably would have interviewed at the above places, just to check them out, but I didn't really want to live in Boston or SF. My independent rank list 1-4 would have been: Duke, Hopkins, Vanderbilt, Emory.

For those keeping score: Step I/II: 240s/260. Honored pretty much all of third/fourth year. 1 poster presentation no pubs. Top 15% of class, not AOA. Top 20 med school. Strong letters from full Professors. Some very strong leadership stuff with national recognition. Got 16/16 interviews applied to.

Apparently you don't need AOA and pubs to get top interviews, but I do think my leadership stuff may have pushed me into the top tier.
 
VandyMed2009 said:
I'll preface my posting with the following info: I am couples matching and we have tons of family in the NC/VA/MD area, so my list is heavily influenced by these factors and may not be the "expected" list.

1. Duke
2. UNC
3. Hopkins
4. Vanderbilt
5. Wake Forest
6. Emory
7. Brown
8. Penn
9. BIDMC
10. Pitt
11. UVA

Declined interviews at MGH, BWH, UCSF, Colorado, U Wash.
If I had been in this alone, I probably would have interviewed at the above places, just to check them out, but I didn't really want to live in Boston or SF. My independent rank list 1-4 would have been: Duke, Hopkins, Vanderbilt, Emory.

For those keeping score: Step I/II: 240s/260. Honored pretty much all of third/fourth year. 1 poster presentation no pubs. Top 15% of class, not AOA. Top 20 med school. Strong letters from full Professors. Some very strong leadership stuff with national recognition. Got 16/16 interviews applied to.

Apparently you don't need AOA and pubs to get top interviews, but I do think my leadership stuff may have pushed me into the top tier.
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good to see some studs ranking duke first.
 
VandyMed2009 said:
I'll preface my posting with the following info: I am couples matching and we have tons of family in the NC/VA/MD area, so my list is heavily influenced by these factors and may not be the "expected" list.

1. Duke
2. UNC
3. Hopkins
4. Vanderbilt
5. Wake Forest
6. Emory
7. Brown
8. Penn
9. BIDMC
10. Pitt
11. UVA

Declined interviews at MGH, BWH, UCSF, Colorado, U Wash.
If I had been in this alone, I probably would have interviewed at the above places, just to check them out, but I didn't really want to live in Boston or SF. My independent rank list 1-4 would have been: Duke, Hopkins, Vanderbilt, Emory.

For those keeping score: Step I/II: 240s/260. Honored pretty much all of third/fourth year. 1 poster presentation no pubs. Top 15% of class, not AOA. Top 20 med school. Strong letters from full Professors. Some very strong leadership stuff with national recognition. Got 16/16 interviews applied to.

Apparently you don't need AOA and pubs to get top interviews, but I do think my leadership stuff may have pushed me into the top tier.
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Hey VandyMed, just curious why you put UVA so low on your list?

I have it above Brown/Pitt/Vandy ... and I declined Emory (because of Grady). UVA is #4 on my list. I am just wondering if I missed something and I shouldn't rank it so high ...
 
my husband didn't actaully get an interview at UVA. So, i don't really want to be there as we couldn't live together -- or could live together but then would both have long commutes.

I did like the UVA program though
 
VandyMed2009 said:
my husband didn't actaully get an interview at UVA. So, i don't really want to be there as we couldn't live together -- or could live together but then would both have long commutes.

I did like the UVA program though
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Makes perfect sense. I really liked the options for a Masters in Clinical Science or whatever during second year at Virginia.

I too am couples matching, and I actually would have had Vandy much higher on my list but in my spouse's department Vandy is very weak. In Medicine your PD is freaking awesome and I loved the Informatics fellowship options there.

Couples match really changes things.

I've noted a lot of people ranking Brown pretty high, my biggest concern was the fellowship match is horrible at Brown, and I want to do GI/Cards. Its pretty good in Pulm/CC. Anyone care to comment on why they are ranking Brown high?
 
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Not to be accusatory, but I'm a fourth year student at Vandy and I know my classmates pretty well. And I'm fairly sure there's no one going into medicine who is couples matching who meets VandyMed2009's characteristics.
VandyMed, you've posted some really good stuff, so I was just wondering if you do go to Vanderbilt since it would help put things in perspective in an anonymous forum.
 
Why do so few post ranking top programs include Columbia? Did most of you not interview there or are you not ranking them?
 
If you're like me, you read this forum because you are a nervous, neurotic medical student who needs to do something, anything to avoid waiting, passively.

There's a problem with this. The information that you get on this forum sucks. Now this would be especially true if someone named VandyMed2009 is just trying to screw with us. But it's still true if that person is acquitted of the charges against them.

All of this crap about prestige is nauseating. It's embarassing and it's depressing. It makes us look like a bunch of law students. How many times does someone have to play the voice of reason by saying "follow you gut" or "do what feels right for you" before we realize that this is not the right place to work out our rank lists? Also, people on here on found to be liars far too often. How many trolls do we have to suss out before we realize that any argument made for or against a program on this forum is probably made from self-interest? Or just to f with you?

I check this forum too much. I don't post much. This probably makes me the average SDN user. Because this place freaks me out too much, I've made my decision to never come back to this forum. I won't be missed. This also, probably, makes me the average SDN user.
 
Spleen Man said:
If you're like me, you read this forum because you are a nervous, neurotic medical student who needs to do something, anything to avoid waiting, passively.

There's a problem with this. The information that you get on this forum sucks. Now this would be especially true if someone named VandyMed2009 is just trying to screw with us. But it's still true if that person is acquitted of the charges against them.

All of this crap about prestige is nauseating. It's embarassing and it's depressing. It makes us look like a bunch of law students. How many times does someone have to play the voice of reason by saying "follow you gut" or "do what feels right for you" before we realize that this is not the right place to work out our rank lists? Also, people on here on found to be liars far too often. How many trolls do we have to suss out before we realize that any argument made for or against a program on this forum is probably made from self-interest? Or just to f with you?

I check this forum too much. I don't post much. This probably makes me the average SDN user. Because this place freaks me out too much, I've made my decision to never come back to this forum. I won't be missed. This also, probably, makes me the average SDN user.
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Well Unlike House and now Spleenman, I believe that most people do not lie. And people, for most part, do go with their gut ... the information shared here about rank lists is to get more information from the other candidates that went to the same program (not all interview days are alike...lot of sampling error as far as interview day itself goes) ...

That being said, yes there may be A-holes here who will likely try to spoil it for everyone, whatever their motive maybe. But if 10 people tell me that they had an awesome day at Duke (just an example.... substitute your number 1 here) and 1 person comes here and bashes Duke, is that going to change my mind... NO it is not ... I am going to go with my gut and majority and with people who are actually there as residents like TommyGun04 etc. On the other hand, if I was the only one getting positive feel from the program and 90% people who went there for interview and the residents were telling me to stay away, then that warrants another look from my side to see what I may have missed.

Have i had bad experiences? Sure. Do i still believe most people try to do good? Yes. (Does it even matter if VandyMed2009 doesn't go to Vanerbilt as long as the information she is posting is legit. And how can you believe someone who has been here 1 day i.e. 1 post over someone who has been here long time AND mostly posted no-nonsense posts. i.e. just because doglover2 doesn't know anyone who is couples matching doesn't mean that VandyMed is not at Vandy and is not couples matching )

So everyone just calm down and Good luck 😀 :luck::luck::luck:
 
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Spleenman's post is well noted, though I feel information gathered/shared here is valid as long as you take it with the appropriate grain of salt. I think providing some rationale as to ranks is more productive than just offering a list and getting a solely-prestige-based response.

That said, my developing list below. Interested in Cards/GI (like procedures) though I can see myself in other subspecialties as well, including GIM.

1. BWH
2. Duke
3. JHU
4. University of Colorado
5. Vanderbilt
6. OHSU
7. UW
8. UTSW
9. UCLA

Wildcard: University of Chicago.
Not ranking Northwestern (didn't like the vibe).

BWH as #1 is solid. Regarding UoC: as discussed in a thread I made quite a while ago (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=596142), I would like to be in Chicago for personal reasons, and on my actual ROL it currently sits #2. Were I not interested in being in Chicago it would probably be #7 on the list above, though I can certainly see myself happy and in good fellowship position coming out of the program. The recent loss of their Chair kind of shook things up a bit more, and their program is dropping back to its previously (even smaller) size (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=601577), and I am considering dropping it lower on the list.

Duke/JHU/Colorado/Vanderbilt are subject to change.
-Duke: really liked their upfront attitude regarding last year's debacle and got a great feel as to the resulting introspection and changes being made.
-JHU: the vibe I got was a bit more intense and not pretentious...but something slightly short of that. That said, I think the training there probably warrants that something-short-of-pretentious; you learn medicine.
-Colorado: While it may not have the national prominence as some of the others on my list, I got the impression they are one of the more progressive programs with a very active program team in-tune with the residents. Really liked the residents and love the city.
-Vanderbilt: I didn't have a eureka moment while visiting but as I think back, I don't have anything negative to say about the program either. Liked the residents, seems like there is great communication between residents and the program leadership. Could easily see it moving up my list.

The rest: Liked OHSU, loved the city, got the feeling the training there wasn't quite on par with those ranked above it but damn close. UW: really wanted to like the program but just didn't get a good feeling there. Still not quite sure why. UTSW: got a very "work hard, play hard" impression, which I would say I subscribe to; don't enjoy Dallas. UCLA: great new hospital but did not like the residents as much.

As far as post-interview contact, for what it is worth: ranked-to-match email from Vanderbilt, couple love letters ("we regarded you very highly)" from Colorado, "ranked favorably to match" from UCLA, and "we would love for you to train with us" from UoC immediately after the interview.

Thanks for any thoughts!
 
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don't actually go to Vanderbilt. dont believe i ever claimed to!

i go to a med school in NC. Vandy is my pets nickname.


sorry for the confusion, i can see why it is assumed I was at vanderbilt.
 
and yes, fyi, i am couples matching. and i am at a top 20 med school (shouldnt take a genius to figure out which now that i've stated its in NC).

i suppoosed the name was somewhat confusing but it wasn't intended to be dishonest.
 
VandyMed2009 said:
don't actually go to Vanderbilt. dont believe i ever claimed to!

i go to a med school in NC. Vandy is my pets nickname.


sorry for the confusion, i can see why it is assumed I was at vanderbilt.
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Hahahahaha

You know they say when you assume you make an ASS out of you and me.
 
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