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rtoddo09 said:
Rejected as well. Not even an alternate.

Now its up to KState... so if you are going to decline your spot at Kansas State, thanks for the potential opportunity!
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I'm sorry rtoddo09. Don't give up on KState. You're an alternate and at KState that is a very real possibility of an acceptance offer. I know the rejection burns. Hang in there.
 
My emotions are battling with each other right now - brain hurts!

First, congrats crittergal!!!! I've been pulling for you and I'm soooo happy you got accepted! Go celebrate! :highfive:

And twelvetigers, I have half a mind to go slap someone over in that admissions department. I'm so sorry about that letter. Know that we're all thinking of you today - wish I could send a hug through an SDN post right now. 🙁
 
crittergal said:
Honestly, I don't know. I did mail off the deposit because of the "we over accepted, first to send money gets the slot". I really liked Tuskegee, the students, and their philosophy but I haven't been there accepted yet. I'll take a tour of OSU and if accepted at TU make a difficult decision.

Crazy!! I'm not quite sure how this happened but I'm sure not gonna look a gift horse in the mouth.
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wait... where does it say that??? I can't handle that kind of pressure!

EDIT: is this just an OOS thing maybe?
 
Almost a whole paragraph in bold. I'm OOS so maybe it's different for IS. I remember a discussion last year that questioned the shady ethics of pressuring students to send in deposits before the April 15 deadline. If memory serves, most SNDers thought they were preying on fears but went ahead and sent the $500 just in case. It may be a loss if I go to TU, but I am not willing to take that chance.
 
cowgirla said:
Wait, what? They said that?

Should I be calling my landlord and having her check my mailbox, just in case??? Because I won't be back until Monday night 😱
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It's more eloquently written, but that's the short version of what it says. There's also a form you've got to sign and mail back with the money. You could have your landlord check, but I highly doubt it you'll miss your chance by Monday.
 
Would you mind posting the paragraph? That sounds really shady, unethical, and perhaps even illegal? Though I think the April 15th thing is just a gentleman's agreement and not a binding contract or anything.
 
HopefulAg said:
Would you mind posting the paragraph? That sounds really shady, unethical, and perhaps even illegal? Though I think the April 15th thing is just a gentleman's agreement and not a binding contract or anything.
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Sure. Verbatim:
We honor an informal agreement among US veterinary colleges whereby the earliest date on which candidates must provide notice of their decisions is April 15, 2010. However, please be advised that we are initially extending more offers than there are positions available for nonresidents and will, if necessary, give preference to those applicants who first submit the attached acceptance form and the nonrefundable deposit of $500.00 If you are admitted, this deposit will be credited to your account, to be applied to your fall semester fees. If we are unable to confirm your acceptance due to a late response on your part or if you do not respond by 5:00 p.m. central standard time on April 15, 2010, you will be reclassified as an alternate candidate.
 
Wow. It's not like they didn't know they weren't over-accepting either, so what the hell?

I understand that most OOS people will reject but that's what waitlists are for.
 
yeah that's definitely not in the IS letter. but still, I don't understand why they do that? Kansas St. over-accepts, but they said they know their system well enough that they know how many they can over-accept by.

If I were a school, I'd much rather under-invite and then call alternates than over-invite and inform an accepted person they are no longer accepted.
 
Thanks guys. Give me some time to dry up and I'll be back in action. I'll definitely need help figuring out what to do for a year and where I should apply next time.

Crittergal, I am EXCITED for you (as excited as I possibly can be about anything at this moment) and you know I would love to show you around any time you feel like making the trip.
 
Well personally I think you should apply to A&M. 😉
 
twelvetigers said:
Thanks guys. Give me some time to dry up and I'll be back in action. I'll definitely need help figuring out what to do for a year and where I should apply next time.
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I think you should go on strike. Sit in front of the admissions office all day with a protest sign. See if you can get other students to join in. Heck, you can sit there until they let you in. Maybe start a little chant or something to really get their attention? I'd be happy to come out and help organize the event if it means they come to their senses.
 
crittergal said:
Sure. Verbatim:
We honor an informal agreement among US veterinary colleges whereby the earliest date on which candidates must provide notice of their decisions is April 15, 2010. However, please be advised that we are initially extending more offers than there are positions available for nonresidents and will, if necessary, give preference to those applicants who first submit the attached acceptance form and the nonrefundable deposit of $500.00 If you are admitted, this deposit will be credited to your account, to be applied to your fall semester fees. If we are unable to confirm your acceptance due to a late response on your part or if you do not respond by 5:00 p.m. central standard time on April 15, 2010, you will be reclassified as an alternate candidate.
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:wow: Wow, that is definitely preying on fears. I would seriously consider forwarding that to the AAVMC just to be sure they know it is going on.
 
I think you should look into k-state. I really really liked it when I went there for my interview. The school and facilities seemed pretty comparable with OSU and everyone from the staff to the students was super nice. If I don't get into OSU I will be accepting my seat there.
 
lyndaelyzoo said:
That sounds like you are describing TT's rejection. I am so sorry TT.
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Totally agree.

TT, I can't offer much in the way of advice on schools, but if you need someone to edit your personal statement next year, I'd be happy to do so. I'm 5 for 5 so far on statements I've edited for others. 😀
 
First of all, TT I'm so dissapointed in the OSU admissions committee that you didn't get in. That's just plain stupid. I've definitely been doubting some things about the OSU CVHS lately... 🙁

crittergal said:
Sure. Verbatim:
We honor an informal agreement among US veterinary colleges whereby the earliest date on which candidates must provide notice of their decisions is April 15, 2010. However, please be advised that we are initially extending more offers than there are positions available for nonresidents and will, if necessary, give preference to those applicants who first submit the attached acceptance form and the nonrefundable deposit of $500.00 If you are admitted, this deposit will be credited to your account, to be applied to your fall semester fees. If we are unable to confirm your acceptance due to a late response on your part or if you do not respond by 5:00 p.m. central standard time on April 15, 2010, you will be reclassified as an alternate candidate.
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I just got my letter today and have been accepted! I had the same paragraph in my letter (I'm OOS as well), which is frusturating because I won't be hearing from UF until April and I still have made no progress on deciding between A&M and OSU other than tuition differences..... bottom line: I am NOT sending them $500. I guess if its not meant to be, then its not meant to be. I know a friend of mine got in OOS today and is declining her spot, so there's at least one spot opened up!
 
parietal said:
:wow: Wow, that is definitely preying on fears. I would seriously consider forwarding that to the AAVMC just to be sure they know it is going on.
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I agree. That's outrageous. We have until April 15th to make a decision, fair and square!
 
twelvetigers said:
Crittergal, I am EXCITED for you (as excited as I possibly can be about anything at this moment) and you know I would love to show you around any time you feel like making the trip.
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Thank you. I really appreciate your offer, especially considering the kick in the face you suffered today. I am so very sorry. OSU is only 3ish hours north so I will be making the trip in a few weeks. I'll PM you at some point for a personal tour- only if you're up for it though.

Hang in there. You've got a fleet of e-friends with virtual hugs and Kleenex for you.
 
Okay guys. First of all, THANK YOU - it does make things easier knowing I could have an angry mob assembled (with pitchforks and torches) to march to the admissions office. I don't imagine that would do much good, especially since the campus police station is nearly adjacent to the vet school, but it's a nice thought. 🙂

Second... well... that's it for me this year. So I have no choice but to plan for next time.

I haven't had much time to think clearly about what I would like to do - a master's? I don't really want to pursue research as a career, but I think I could do a one-year master's without much trouble. My GPA is definitely my major negative point, and there is basically NOTHING I can do to really change it now, at least not with a school that averages grades for retaken classes (like OKSU).

I was a stupid undergraduate that didn't put in enough time with chemistry and, as a result, just never understood it very well at all.

I suppose I'll take the GRE again.. I probably COULD do better. Man I hate that test. :meanie:

I have research, hours at the diagnostics lab, at a SA clinic, shadowing a LA vet, caring for research puppies, and some other odds and ends.

So, master's maybe? Experience? Do I need to go to Africa? Lol. I'm at such a loss.

ETA: I can't schedule a 'file review' until after JUNE 15TH - them's the rules. It wasn't worth a whole lot to me last time anyway. "Um, retake organic?" Yeah, okay. I did. And? *shrug*
 
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Accepted! I talked to Robin yesterday, and she said that there was going to be an Open House April 3rd all day, so I'll probably go to that to help myself make a decision (if I haven't already). I visited a year ago, but I need to go again I think. Maybe I will see some of y'all there!

Also, I will be declining my K-State offer, as well. Twelvetigers, hang in there! We're pullin for you. 🙂
 
Rhi, have you considered doing an MBA? The classes are easy as hell, the knowledge will be more useful in practice, especially if you want to own your own, and it may show them you can handle upper level classes (though I think a masters in a science field would be better for this).

Plus, you'll have something new to talk about in your interview ("I realize that a lot of veterinarians have no business training and to circumvent that problem in my own practice...yada yada"). It'd certainly set you apart, as I doubt too many other people have MBAs. Also it can be completed in about a year and a half.

I know in two of my interviews, especially my ISU one (since they're very proud of their DVM/MBA program) they talked at length about my MBA and what I planned to do with it.

Only problem is the classes are boring as all get out. It sucks going from the awesomeness of Science to the boringness of Business. But it's an option if you don't want to lock yourself out of applying to vet school for a year while doing research and what not.




As for the acceptance thing, it seems Western is doing it too. From my acceptance e-mail:
The CVM routinely issues invitations to more candidates than seats allotted. This is in response to the common practice of applicants applying to multiple institutions. In the unprecedented event that the number of acceptances significantly exceeds the College's resources, confirmation of your seat will be provided after receipt of your written acceptance and deposit on a first come first served basis. Therefore, you are encouraged to make your decision and secure your seat in the class as soon as possible.
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I think I'd rather pursue a science based masters, since A: I hate hate hate math, and B: I'm interested in pathology and don't ever plan to really work in a clinic long term, much less own one. But, I agree that it sounds like a good plan. 🙂

On the plus side of today, I just a free shirt from Threadless so that's cool.

Anyone want to trade a tshirt for their vet school acceptance? :d
 
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twelvetigers said:
I think I'd rather pursue a science based masters, since A: I hate hate hate math
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The math involved in a business program is barely even math! 😉

edit: Seriously, HopefulAg I have no idea how you manage to get through one of those programs without jumping off of a building. If I were an adcom member you'd get like, extra points for just being able to endure the ridiculously boring coursework. 😛
 
Yah the math is nothing at all. You could do it in your sleep. But:

B: I'm interested in pathology and don't ever plan to really work in a clinic long term, much less own one.
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I forgot about that! In that case, an MBA would do no good at all.



And Nyanko: it's a challenge every day. It's sad that the most excited I've been about a business class was in a Management class, the first day, he was over viewing the evolution of man and social behavior. He hits on a small part about Genetics and how we're "95% related to monkeys genetically, which is the general trend and makes sense. The more like a species we are, the more we have in common genetically." I felt like a nerd, but had to correct him that we've 80% in common with some mushrooms, while only 60% in common with mice. But we did get to talk about genetics, ever how briefly.
 
I wish I had some sort of sage advice for you TT, my dear fellow "all eggs in one basket" second turned third time applicant cyber friend. But maybe now that we will be looking farther and wider next year we'll cross paths at an interview sometime (and we will get lots of interviews!). Fun!

How frustrating to have to wait so long for a file review! Perhaps to get some more timely advice you might try contacting some other schools that you are interested in and seeing if you can do a phone consultation of sorts and get ideas on what they would most like to see from you. It may have been an unusually lucky situation, but I contacted Tufts a month or so ago with some questions that were forwarded on to the admissions counselor who not only answered some questions, but requested scanned copies of all my transcripts and took a look to make some specific recommendations. I have also had good e-mail conversations with KSU, and get the impression that he would be happy to give advice as well as just answer questions. I imagine many other schools would be the same way?

My impulse after reading your post is that doing well in a non-thesis science based master's would really help show the adcoms how capable you are academically (which I am guessing they were concerned about since your experience sounds great! I wish I had your hours and variety!). Do you have any local options? Or would you have to move to do something like that? CSU apparently has a decent option.😀

Good for you for diving right in to develop a plan! I was in a pretty definite funk for a few weeks, rallied, and then dropped into a funk about it for another month. Rejection sucks.
 
I did think of you, gone2dogs, and how we're in exactly the same boat. It certaily leaves you with regrets for not having applied more widely THIS time. Oh well - it's done.

I won't move for a master's. I hope to find one here, but I'm only just looking now so I have no idea what is offered or how things work. I had a friend tell me that they knew a girl that started a master's, got in to OK, and then is finishing it over the summer. If that would work I'd be all for it, but the OOS spots may frown on that unless I can prove that it's okay or something. I dunno.

If I wasn't married and all that, I would try for a plan B program or something similar. But house, husband's job... you know. My roots are here.

At least I'm not the only one trudging along grudgingly to the 'c/o 2015' group. Not that I wish it on anyone else, it's just nice to have a few familiar faces to commiserate with.

Stay tuned everyone... coming next fall, 'twelvetigers on tour!' At a vet school near you. Maybe.
 
I can definitely understand not being able to move for a master's... life can be complicated! Ironically my life seems to be becoming less complicated lately, yet I have nowhere to go!

I too am sorry to have company going into 2015, but at the same time it is nice. I'm just getting super impatient for summer so we can start talking and obsessing about the next round😀! Enough with the 2014 cycle already😳! I'm mostly kidding of course, and I have to admit seeing acceptances (especially this week) is getting me all pumped up!
 
Hey TT if your not interested in research based MA, you could look into the MA program I got into. Its totally online. I know, everyone says online is a no, no but this is a pretty rigorous program and your diploma will not say they're online courses. The classes are exactly the same as the "in person" courses and they have a bio, biochem, or chem emphasis of your choice. If your interested you can look up my previous post or I can email you the details.
 
So, I can't reach my landlords, and there's no one else around me to open my letter for me ;( I live in the middle of freaking nowhere.

If I wasn't so worried about my landlords being MIA, I'd be pretty seriously pissed off right about now. I just want to know one way or the other, so I can move on with my life.
 
twelvetigers said:
I did think of you, gone2dogs, and how we're in exactly the same boat. It certaily leaves you with regrets for not having applied more widely THIS time. Oh well - it's done.

I won't move for a master's. I hope to find one here, but I'm only just looking now so I have no idea what is offered or how things work. I had a friend tell me that they knew a girl that started a master's, got in to OK, and then is finishing it over the summer. If that would work I'd be all for it, but the OOS spots may frown on that unless I can prove that it's okay or something. I dunno.

If I wasn't married and all that, I would try for a plan B program or something similar. But house, husband's job... you know. My roots are here.

At least I'm not the only one trudging along grudgingly to the 'c/o 2015' group. Not that I wish it on anyone else, it's just nice to have a few familiar faces to commiserate with.

Stay tuned everyone... coming next fall, 'twelvetigers on tour!' At a vet school near you. Maybe.
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Hey TT, have you checked out the Zoology Dept at OSU? We have a TON of new faculty and if memory serves me, we take applications on a rolling basis. I'm not sure if anyone does exactly what you're interested in, but the great thing about grad school is you have a LOT of say in the project you do (depending on your PI) Let me know if you're interested in meeting some folks and we could probably arrange it.

I work in a Parasitology lab...we don't do much pathology, but the option is always there. Also, in the Microbiology dept, Dr. Shaw does some interesting work on Q fever...(mostly molecular work but some students are working with different cell lines and such) Probably not exactly your cup of tea, but worth mentioning.
 
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OMG. I got in.

I can't believe it. I'm crying and shaking, and the first thing I do is come on here lol.

My landlord is such a witch-- she calls me says "I'm opening the letter....uh oh, this isn't good." Long Pause. "We are pleased to inform you...Crap I guess this means you are leaving?"

I have a six hour drive ahead of me in the rain and I can't stop crying.
 
cowgirla said:
OMG. I got in.

I can't believe it. I'm crying and shaking, and the first thing I do is come on here lol.

My landlord is such a witch-- she calls me says "I'm opening the letter....uh oh, this isn't good." Long Pause. "We are pleased to inform you...Crap I guess this means you are leaving?"

I have a six hour drive ahead of me in the rain and I can't stop crying.
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Congratulations!
 
Congrats Cowgirla! I was waitlisted at Oklahoma State, so I guess there is still a possibility we could be classmates.

By the way, on the waitlist letter, it says:

" Confidentiality of applicant records prevents us from releasing specific rankings of applicants, but I am pleased to tell you that your records compare favorably with those students being offered admission."

I was just wondering if any other OOS waitlisted individuals got this paragraph...I just don't want to read anything into it and get my hopes up unnecessarily if it is a standard message that is sent out to everyone on the list.


Anyway, its encouraging nonetheless...at least more than my Michigan state waitlist letter.

Heres to waiting I guess. Good luck to the other alternates, and congrats to those accepted. Those that weren't....well things will work out in the end, they usually do...especially if you truly follow your passions with as much tenacity and ambition as possible.
 
OneHealthDVM said:
By the way, on the waitlist letter, it says:

" Confidentiality of applicant records prevents us from releasing specific rankings of applicants, but I am pleased to tell you that your records compare favorably with those students being offered admission."

I was just wondering if any other OOS waitlisted individuals got this paragraph...I just don't want to read anything into it and get my hopes up unnecessarily if it is a standard message that is sent out to everyone on the list.
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Mine says it as well. I am not reading too much into it considering what the accepted letters say about getting the deposit in asap and over admitting. But maybe both of ours say it because we are super close to the top! 🙂
 
So what happens when you send in your deposit to ok state and decline the other schools you were accepted to...then ok state gets back to you and says that your deposit wasn't received in time because they got too many already? You are SOL and have no school to attend anymore?
 
Sorry hrtracy, I glossed over your post earlier. I'm looking for options in McElroy first, but the zoology department will be the second place I'll look if I need to. I will definitely let you know!
 
YAY Cowgirla!!!
 
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