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LetItSnow said:
At least right now if people want to talk to me they at least have to pay $118 just for me to chat with them - and my staff warn each and every client that diagnostics and therapy are more ..... so it kinda weeds out at least SOME of the crazy. With telemedicine, it would be nothing BUT crazy.
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Which is why I wish people had to pay a nominal fee to contact us on-call. If they actually come in, great, subtract that from emergency fee. If they don't come in, well at least I still got paid for being woken up at 1 AM for a puppy "acting strange" but whose owner has zero intention of coming in. It doesn't have to be a huge fee, just something to just down on the people who clearly just want free "advice".
 
The problem is there are many types of crazies, but there are definitely the crazy people who have no money at all and take up a whole bunch of your time and then don't really do anything or after you do things they have "only $50".

Then there are the rich crazy people that want you to do everything and will pay for it, but they are legit insane and expect you to work some miracle to save their pet that probably should have been humanely euthanized months ago when it was diagnosed with its 4th or 5th severe, chronic disease and/or cancer. But now they expect you to be able to save their pet as it is clearly trying to die. Or even better there is absolutely nothing wrong with their pet, but they are an insane person with a lot of money and they have munchausen by pet so you do ALL the diagnostics (because they really want you to and think there is something terribly wrong with their dog) and surprise the diagnostics come up with "there is nothing wrong here" and they can't understand why.

I am not sure which camp of crazy is worse. At least you get paid by the one camp.
 
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I am not sure which camp of crazy is worse. At least you get paid by the one camp.
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Yes, you at least get paid. And those people are FAR outnumbered by the crazies that can't/won't pay or who call you about trivial things. I mean, I can truthfully only think of a couple clients I've ever had who have wanted to go to crazy lengths with an animal that really should be put down, or who has nothing wrong it at all. But I get the other crazy pretty much every single shift.
 
LetItSnow said:
Yes, you at least get paid. And those people are FAR outnumbered by the crazies that can't/won't pay or who call you about trivial things. I mean, I can truthfully only think of a couple clients I've ever had who have wanted to go to crazy lengths with an animal that really should be put down, or who has nothing wrong it at all. But I get the other crazy pretty much every single shift.
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Oh yeah, definitely the other crazy outnumbers. It is just sometimes very frustrating dealing with that other crazy that can't see that no matter what you do, their pet is not going to survive.


And the crazies that really believe there is something VERY wrong with their pet but it is just the owner's insanity and there is nothing actually wrong. Like the dog with a beautiful BCS of 5/9 but the owner insists the dog is too thin and that she can't get her dog to gain weight.
 
All anyone who's too cheap to see a vet has to do is go to a VCA that they've never been to before with a free first exam coupon... Problem solved man.

Does banfield do that too?

Edit: they do!!! So really, if you live in a metropolitan area with like 6 banfields and 6 VCAs within a 30 mile radius, you have like 12 free exams with real doctors who can actually do physical exams and prescribe things. Even write you prescriptions for free antibiotics if warranted. And for any pet I have a VPCR with, I almost always return calls no matter how trivial the matter is without charging anyone. This service really is like the biggest ripoff if you think about it.
 
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Which is why I wish people had to pay a nominal fee to contact us on-call. If they actually come in, great, subtract that from emergency fee. If they don't come in, well at least I still got paid for being woken up at 1 AM for a puppy "acting strange" but whose owner has zero intention of coming in. It doesn't have to be a huge fee, just something to just down on the people who clearly just want free "advice".
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Yeah that's a bad system. Baaaad system.
 
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I really think this is just another one of those money making schemes people like to do while blaming vet visits as unnecessary and overpriced. But regardless of the actual merits/issues with this service, wtf is up with this stupid commercial?

First of all, why would a bag of PUPPY food be expired? And seriously? A lab puppy is not eating, and your question as a vet is, "is the food expired?" This is like the dumbest example I could have ever come up with. Seriously, I would have at least nodded along if it was like a dog reverse sneezing, or a nipple confused as a mass, my dog just ate 3 marshmallows, or something like that, where this service legitimately might be worth it for the owner.

I can almost guarantee the little money you would make as a vet for this fairly cheap service is NOT worth the babbling of idiotic things owners will keep going on and on about. Especially with the crowd who are too cheap to go to the vet's office and only interested in home remedies, I can't imagine how annoying those conversations must be.
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"Is the food expired" I'm screaming
 
if you own a dog aggressive dog, PLEASE do not let your dog sniff my friendly dog, and do not lazily let your dog do whatever the heck it wants on a 20ft retractable leash and run up to us as we are walking by. ideally, don't walk your dog on a narrow path if it's aggressive, but i recognize that you might have an unfriendly dog and so i walk on the edge and pull my dog into my side. and you had better believe that if your dog attacks mine, i will absolutely ensure that you pay the bill either at time of services or through a lawyer.
 
Golden Key "Honour" Society, your continued emails and snail mail after I've unsubscribed multiple times truly paints your organization's workers as the used car salespeople that they are; not very reflective of a true academic honor society, in my opinion.
 
Patricia's blowing through my neck of the woods currently. Wind, rain, lightning, thunder, and 50 degree temperatures. I just want to sleep but my physics homework is screaming at me over there. A truck has already submerged in water on a pretty busy street. Makes me wonder if we will have school tomorrow.
 
wheelin2vetmed said:
Golden Key "Honour" Society, your continued emails and snail mail after I've unsubscribed multiple times truly paints your organization's workers as the used car salespeople that they are; not very reflective of a true academic honor society, in my opinion.
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Don't you know? You can never unsubscribe. They own your soul for life.
 
jmo1012 said:
I know very little about apoquel, other than its been on back order for years and now it's back but very hard to get a hold of. Our supply is very limited, and owners only get it if they are derm clients who have done some sort of work up (food trial, antihistamines, etc)
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I'm late to the game replying but yes. It's not that I judge people for being unwilling to do anything ... but demanding a drug that is back-ordered and we get in very limited quantities should (imo) go to those animals that have exhausted other options and are uncomfortably itchy.
 
I find it disappointing when a faculty member slyly insults an entire facet of veterinary medicine because they're "only treating dogs/cats, not feeding the world." Also, don't advertise that making $500k/year is a thing because maybe a handful of people are at that salary in the meat industry. :yeahright:
 
Pharmacokinetics is evil.

That is all.
 
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Ashgirl said:
Pharmacokinetics is evil.

That is all.
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I love it! That was my favorite part of learning Pharmacology. Now just learning the different drugs and what they do is pretty boring for me 😛
 
allygator13 said:
I love it! That was my favorite part of learning Pharmacology. Now just learning the different drugs and what they do is pretty boring for me 😛
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I'm jealous!!! Though, in a way I'm hoping my brain is wired opposite so that way I'll enjoy most of pharm instead of disliking all of it haha. 😛 Though, I think that the amount of pharm we have a week (7 lectures), plus daunting first exam (apparently 50% of class fails it), makes my brain turn off instead of embracing it. I need to change this because in the next week I somehow need to become one with the equations...
 
We give people advice over the phone...it's something my boss really wants us to do. Probably 50-50 either don't worry about it or bring them in, but there are definitely clients who call and we rec famotidine/bland diet over the phone or benadryl or whatever. We don't have an answering service after hours though, so that excludes one chunk of the crazies.
 
Omg, I thought parasitology was bad...Trying to get through 9 lectures of musculoskeletal pathology in 4 days is even worse. By 1000 times. 😢 I mean, just reading the sentence, "Cutting cones of bone remodeling units as they cut longitudinal canals in cortical bone tissue sometimes remove and replace part of an old osteon with an entirely new one. The remnant of the old osteon seen on cross-section is termed an interstitial lamella." That's an actual answer to a question. Please stab me in the face repeatedly.
 
My kitty has cholangiohep (most likely). Keep her in your thoughts, please.
 
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I received this email this morning. It was a pretty big blow, to tell you the truth. I'm a realist, and I fully understand minimum standards and competences in any medical field, human or animal. If I was a quadriplegic, with no use of my arms or legs, I would be naive to think that I could be a successful brain surgeon. But after living with my disability for almost 4 years now, I don't see how SOLELY being in a wheelchair precludes me from practicing veterinary medicine and being a successful doctor. Speaking with various admissions counselors and high-ups at different universities, it all comes down to the same question: are the tasks that you are UNABLE to accomplish because of your physical disability ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY to be successful? I can't restrain a horse or elephant, we all know that, but is that necessary? If it is, so be it I guess, but I don't agree with it.

The "Wheelchair users" paragraph of the DDA document is just plain ********. It immediately lumps together all wheelchair users, and doesn't take into account the endless spectrum of disability. I am so incredibly mobile in my manual wheelchair, it's not even funny. Compare that to a quad with a 100 lb power-chair. We're totally different people with totally different disabilities. I personally see this as discrimination based on disability, but I'm no lawyer.

I called the admissions office and asked: "Why am I receiving this response now?" This response is a reply to the interview invitation, where it asked if I needed accommodations for the day of the interview. Not only did they have specific details of my disability in the VMCAS, but I also heavily infused my personal statement with my disability. Somehow that was completely glossed over and snuck past every single admissions counselor until now?

The lady on the phone (I realize she's only a messenger) said "At this time, we recommend that you withdraw your interview invitation, based on the RCVS guidelines." Someone else from RVC will be contacting me next week to discuss this further.

That hurt. That really ****ing hurt.
 
wheelin2vetmed said:
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I received this email this morning. It was a pretty big blow, to tell you the truth. I'm a realist, and I fully understand minimum standards and competences in any medical field, human or animal. If I was a quadriplegic, with no use of my arms or legs, I would be naive to think that I could be a successful brain surgeon. But after living with my disability for almost 4 years now, I don't see how SOLELY being in a wheelchair precludes me from practicing veterinary medicine and being a successful doctor. Speaking with various admissions counselors and high-ups at different universities, it all comes down to the same question: are the tasks that you are UNABLE to accomplish because of your physical disability ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY to be successful? I can't restrain a horse or elephant, we all know that, but is that necessary? If it is, so be it I guess, but I don't agree with it.

The "Wheelchair users" paragraph of the DDA document is just plain ********. It immediately lumps together all wheelchair users, and doesn't take into account the endless spectrum of disability. I am so incredibly mobile in my manual wheelchair, it's not even funny. Compare that to a quad with a 100 lb power-chair. We're totally different people with totally different disabilities. I personally see this as discrimination based on disability, but I'm no lawyer.

I called the admissions office and asked: "Why am I receiving this response now?" This response is a reply to the interview invitation, where it asked if I needed accommodations for the day of the interview. Not only did they have specific details of my disability in the VMCAS, but I also heavily infused my personal statement with my disability. Somehow that was completely glossed over and snuck past every single admissions counselor until now?

The lady on the phone (I realize she's only a messenger) said "At this time, we recommend that you withdraw your interview invitation, based on the RCVS guidelines." Someone else from RVC will be contacting me next week to discuss this further.

That hurt. That really ****ing hurt.
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I'm so sorry 🙁
Some schools do interview invites based on only the objective parts of the application (academics and such) so maybe that's why they didn't contact you about this until now?
I just want to send you a hug through the internet 🙁
 
wheelin2vetmed said:
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I received this email this morning. It was a pretty big blow, to tell you the truth. I'm a realist, and I fully understand minimum standards and competences in any medical field, human or animal. If I was a quadriplegic, with no use of my arms or legs, I would be naive to think that I could be a successful brain surgeon. But after living with my disability for almost 4 years now, I don't see how SOLELY being in a wheelchair precludes me from practicing veterinary medicine and being a successful doctor. Speaking with various admissions counselors and high-ups at different universities, it all comes down to the same question: are the tasks that you are UNABLE to accomplish because of your physical disability ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY to be successful? I can't restrain a horse or elephant, we all know that, but is that necessary? If it is, so be it I guess, but I don't agree with it.

The "Wheelchair users" paragraph of the DDA document is just plain ********. It immediately lumps together all wheelchair users, and doesn't take into account the endless spectrum of disability. I am so incredibly mobile in my manual wheelchair, it's not even funny. Compare that to a quad with a 100 lb power-chair. We're totally different people with totally different disabilities. I personally see this as discrimination based on disability, but I'm no lawyer.

I called the admissions office and asked: "Why am I receiving this response now?" This response is a reply to the interview invitation, where it asked if I needed accommodations for the day of the interview. Not only did they have specific details of my disability in the VMCAS, but I also heavily infused my personal statement with my disability. Somehow that was completely glossed over and snuck past every single admissions counselor until now?

The lady on the phone (I realize she's only a messenger) said "At this time, we recommend that you withdraw your interview invitation, based on the RCVS guidelines." Someone else from RVC will be contacting me next week to discuss this further.

That hurt. That really ****ing hurt.
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I'm so sorry about this... I don't know about the restrictions put on people with disabilities in the UK, but I think it is just a matter of whether or not THEY can comprehend that not every wheelchair user has the same skills or methods of getting around. They may just not want to have to "accommodate" anyone who may be shorter or unable to get in smaller spaces (but do they put the same restrictions on people with dwarfism or other differences??). I don't doubt your ability AT ALL, I am sure that you would be just as able as anyone else. I also don't understand how they are just now realizing this, and creating a big mess after the fact that they already sent you an invitation invite. Maybe when they contact you next week to explain your situation again? It might just all be a big misunderstanding and whoever sent this hasn't talked to everyone else about it. Idk, but I am so sorry that you are feeling down! If they don't want to give you a chance, it is truly their loss and not the kind of environment you want to be immersed in.
 
wheelin2vetmed said:
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I received this email this morning. It was a pretty big blow, to tell you the truth. I'm a realist, and I fully understand minimum standards and competences in any medical field, human or animal. If I was a quadriplegic, with no use of my arms or legs, I would be naive to think that I could be a successful brain surgeon. But after living with my disability for almost 4 years now, I don't see how SOLELY being in a wheelchair precludes me from practicing veterinary medicine and being a successful doctor. Speaking with various admissions counselors and high-ups at different universities, it all comes down to the same question: are the tasks that you are UNABLE to accomplish because of your physical disability ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY to be successful? I can't restrain a horse or elephant, we all know that, but is that necessary? If it is, so be it I guess, but I don't agree with it.

The "Wheelchair users" paragraph of the DDA document is just plain ********. It immediately lumps together all wheelchair users, and doesn't take into account the endless spectrum of disability. I am so incredibly mobile in my manual wheelchair, it's not even funny. Compare that to a quad with a 100 lb power-chair. We're totally different people with totally different disabilities. I personally see this as discrimination based on disability, but I'm no lawyer.

I called the admissions office and asked: "Why am I receiving this response now?" This response is a reply to the interview invitation, where it asked if I needed accommodations for the day of the interview. Not only did they have specific details of my disability in the VMCAS, but I also heavily infused my personal statement with my disability. Somehow that was completely glossed over and snuck past every single admissions counselor until now?

The lady on the phone (I realize she's only a messenger) said "At this time, we recommend that you withdraw your interview invitation, based on the RCVS guidelines." Someone else from RVC will be contacting me next week to discuss this further.

That hurt. That really ****ing hurt.
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Sorry. We are just continuously learning about the crap that comes up or the blocks that people place in your way when you mention the word disability. My kiddo has Down Syndrome and other than a few medical issues that need an extra eye, she's pretty much a normal kid. But people will treat her and our family differently once they know about her extra chromosome, even if they knew her before they KNEW.

It's given me a little more respect for the "differently abled" versus "disabled" movement. You might do things differently than I, but it does not mean you cannot do them.

Whatever school does get to count you as one of their students is going to be very lucky!
 
Here's the thing: I don't need people to toot my horn and celebrate how abled I am and how I'm no different then anyone else. I'm handicapped, and I have a disability. That's just reality.

But I'm trying to look at this as objectively as possible. I went through the DDA document and out of all the competences, the only one that I see myself having real difficulty with is restraining animals. Some of the others will take some modifications, but it can be done.

I'm giving RVC the benefit of the doubt, but the admissions office said this should have been spotted. I will discuss my disability in detail next week. I honestly still want an interview even if they advise against it. I'm a fighter, and if I still jump out of airplanes, drive bobsleds, snow ski black diamonds, conduct research in a lab, use my brain like everybody else, etc, etc, why could I not make this happen? Anything of immense value is worth fighting for, and I want to be a vet. This is just one school, so even though this response hurt, it's not making me lose hope; not one bit.

The statement in the competency document seems so archaic to me. I legitimately laughed out loud, this is the example of a wheelchair used:

Example 6.13A A wheelchair user is a student on a Theatre Studies course. One module of the course is on stage lighting. This involves students climbing up scaffolding and sitting on narrow gantry planks while they alter the lighting. Having taken specialist advice, the lecturer decides that, although an adjustment could be made in order to hoist a wheelchair up to the required height, the gantry planks and scaffolding system are not strong enough to hold a wheelchair. It is unlikely, therefore, to be reasonable for the college to make the adjustment in this instance.
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wheelin2vetmed said:
Here's the thing: I don't need people to toot my horn and celebrate how abled I am and how I'm no different then anyone else. I'm handicapped, and I have a disability. That's just reality.

But I'm trying to look at this as objectively as possible. I went through the DDA document and out of all the competences, the only one that I see myself having real difficulty with is restraining animals. Some of the others will take some modifications, but it can be done.

I'm giving RVC the benefit of the doubt, but the admissions office said this should have been spotted. I will discuss my disability in detail next week. I honestly still want an interview even if they advise against it. I'm a fighter, and if I still jump out of airplanes, drive bobsleds, snow ski black diamonds, conduct research in a lab, use my brain like everybody else, etc, etc, why could I not make this happen? Anything of immense value is worth fighting for, and I want to be a vet. This is just one school, so even though this response hurt, it's not making me lose hope; not one bit.

The statement in the competency document seems so archaic to me. I legitimately laughed out loud, this is the example of a wheelchair used:
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I'd push for the interview as well. Maybe the people who decided to offer you an interview were fully aware of your situation, but the person you spoke with was not. You seem like a very confident person, so make sure that shines through when you speak with them next week and let them know you would still like to go to the interview. I feel they have nothing to lose by interviewing you, and they may find that you carefully considered the obstacles you will face and have come up with possible ways to work around those issues, therefore making you exactly the type of student they'd like to admit. Good luck, you certainly have a lot of people routing for you!
 
wheelin2vetmed said:
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I received this email this morning. It was a pretty big blow, to tell you the truth. I'm a realist, and I fully understand minimum standards and competences in any medical field, human or animal. If I was a quadriplegic, with no use of my arms or legs, I would be naive to think that I could be a successful brain surgeon. But after living with my disability for almost 4 years now, I don't see how SOLELY being in a wheelchair precludes me from practicing veterinary medicine and being a successful doctor. Speaking with various admissions counselors and high-ups at different universities, it all comes down to the same question: are the tasks that you are UNABLE to accomplish because of your physical disability ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY to be successful? I can't restrain a horse or elephant, we all know that, but is that necessary? If it is, so be it I guess, but I don't agree with it.
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It depends on how you define necessary, I guess.

Is being able to restrain a horse a necessary skill for a small animal vet? No. But we're not trained as "small animal" or "equine" or whatever vets. We're all, by definition, generalists. So during the training portion, it's "necessary" to be able to demonstrate those skills. Even if you never plan to actually use those skills.

It's high time for that to change, in my opinion, but I do see how their expectation is consistent with past expectations. I don't know why they couldn't have caught that earlier - stupid. Good people disagree about whether we should continue to train as generalists, but for the time being ..... We do.

Hopefully you'll have more luck at some of the more progressive schools. Hang in there. I'm betting a school like Minnesota might make it happen. Obviously I don't have any inside knowledge, but ....... They have a culture of making things work.
 
LetItSnow said:
It depends on how you define necessary, I guess.

Is being able to restrain a horse a necessary skill for a small animal vet? No. But we're not trained as "small animal" or "equine" or whatever vets. We're all, by definition, generalists. So during the training portion, it's "necessary" to be able to demonstrate those skills. Even if you never plan to actually use those skills.

It's high time for that to change, in my opinion, but I do see how their expectation is consistent with past expectations. I don't know why they couldn't have caught that earlier - stupid. Good people disagree about whether we should continue to train as generalists, but for the time being ..... We do.

Hopefully you'll have more luck at some of the more progressive schools. Hang in there. I'm betting a school like Minnesota might make it happen. Obviously I don't have any inside knowledge, but ....... They have a culture of making things work.
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Minnesota sounds like the greatest thing ever. I wish I had applied. lol.
 
LetItSnow said:
So during the training portion, it's "necessary" to be able to demonstrate those skills. Even if you never plan to actually use those skills.

It's high time for that to change, in my opinion, but I do see how their expectation is consistent with past expectations. I don't know why they couldn't have caught that earlier - stupid. Good people disagree about whether we should continue to train as generalists, but for the time being ..... We do.
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I see the point, but let's also take 2 students (I'm by no means touting myself as amazing, just offering an example):

Student A: Able bodied, has never dealt with adversity, so-so with their hands, wants to be a small animal veterinarian, doesn't really care about the large animal stuff and barely scrapes by in competency.

Student B: Uses a wheelchair, has overcome quite a lot of adversity, is pretty damn amazing with their hands and would fare flawlessly in surgery settings, wants to be a small animal veterinarian, loves the large animal stuff and learns the ins and outs but needs help from another student to restrain a horse, is constantly thinking of alternate methods and strategies to accomplish things because that's just a part of his/her daily life.

Just because Student B can't accomplish one general physical task, they're denied the opportunity to seek any and all possibilities within vet med? That just sounds crazy, especially if Student B could end up being better and more of an impactful doctor than Student A ever could.
 
@wheelin2vetmed I remember one of the schools posting pictures of their incoming students on Facebook last year or the year before and there was a girl in a wheel chair in the class pictures. I wish I could remember which school (I'm thinking it was one of the Southern US schools). But I remember thinking "You go girl."

I think that's insane that they didn't say anything until AFTER they'd offered you an interview...
 
wheelin2vetmed said:
I see the point, but let's also take 2 students (I'm by no means touting myself as amazing, just offering an example):

Student A: Able bodied, has never dealt with adversity, so-so with their hands, wants to be a small animal veterinarian, doesn't really care about the large animal stuff and barely scrapes by in competency.

Student B: Uses a wheelchair, has overcome quite a lot of adversity, is pretty damn amazing with their hands and would fare flawlessly in surgery settings, wants to be a small animal veterinarian, loves the large animal stuff and learns the ins and outs but needs help from another student to restrain a horse, is constantly thinking of alternate methods and strategies to accomplish things because that's just a part of his/her daily life.

Just because Student B can't accomplish one general physical task, they're denied the opportunity to seek any and all possibilities within vet med? That just sounds crazy, especially if Student B could end up being better and more of an impactful doctor than Student A ever could.
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I absolutely do not disagree with you. Like I said, I feel - and have said for a long time now - that the way vet med is trained and tested needs to change dramatically.

But note what you said: "wants to be a small animal veterinarian."

Right now, the field doesn't recognize that. It only recognizes "wants to be a veterinarian." Becoming a <anything> veterinarian is something that right now you do AFTER graduation.

I'm on your side. I just understand how that school's view is consistent with how vet med has historically been viewed and taught. Needs to change.


P.S. Absolutely nobody "fares flawlessly" in a surgical setting. Anyone who does just hasn't done much surgery. 🙂
 
LetItSnow said:
It depends on how you define necessary, I guess.

Is being able to restrain a horse a necessary skill for a small animal vet? No. But we're not trained as "small animal" or "equine" or whatever vets. We're all, by definition, generalists. So during the training portion, it's "necessary" to be able to demonstrate those skills. Even if you never plan to actually use those skills.

It's high time for that to change, in my opinion, but I do see how their expectation is consistent with past expectations. I don't know why they couldn't have caught that earlier - stupid. Good people disagree about whether we should continue to train as generalists, but for the time being ..... We do.

Hopefully you'll have more luck at some of the more progressive schools. Hang in there. I'm betting a school like Minnesota might make it happen. Obviously I don't have any inside knowledge, but ....... They have a culture of making things work.
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We have a permanently wheelchair bound person in OK's first year class. If OK is progressive, I have a hard time with the rest of the schools not adapting to the times. 🙁
 
Lupin21 said:
We have a permanently wheelchair bound person in OK's first year class. If OK is progressive, I have a hard time with the rest of the schools not adapting to the times. 🙁
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Progressive... hmm. Lol.

The building is even pretty old, but they make it work, right? Clinics will be interesting, but it's not like having to use bottom cages and not being able to go into a horse stall would make you a poor vet. Maybe a poor horse vet, as far as things go, but I don't think that's the goal here.
 
Lupin21 said:
We have a permanently wheelchair bound person in OK's first year class. If OK is progressive, I have a hard time with the rest of the schools not adapting to the times. 🙁
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Well. His response WAS from a UK school, right? I mean, if there's one institution slow to change, it's UK universities. 🙂
 
twelvetigers said:
Progressive... hmm. Lol.

The building is even pretty old, but they make it work, right? Clinics will be interesting, but it's not like having to use bottom cages and not being able to go into a horse stall would make you a poor vet. Maybe a poor horse vet, as far as things go, but I don't think that's the goal here.
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Yeah, that was the joke.
 
Getting sick or a sinus infection while I'm out on my LA Surgery Rotation. It's soo busy too because everyone just got back from a conference, so the 3 of us on my side all have anywhere between 4-6 in patients. I really just want to take Nyquil and pass out, but I have to review for my surgery, write SOAPs for tomorrow, make my treatment sheets, research other things for appointments coming in, RIS imaging.

Oh and find times to study for boards and prepare my VIRMP application...
 
Working at vet school and watching all the fist year students very depressed and down...Please cheer up, you are in the vet school, you have been working for this your whole life! and quite frankly you and you lack of excitement are starting to freak me out!
 
PrincessButterCup said:
I've seen SOAPs mentioned before. What does that stand for?
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Subjective, Objective, Assessment and Plan. It's how you should do your PEs and medical records.

The subjective portion describes the signalment, complaint, how the animal outward appears, or if it's hospitalized, things like ins/outs, whether it's comfortable, eating etc.
Objective is your actual physical exam results.
Assessment is your problem list and differentials.
Plan is what you're going to do about it.
 
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