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Way oversimplified, but I've also been told you'd do fine with just dogs, cats and horses.
yeah...not really related to the questions they ask on the NAVLE, but good try!Cows have 4 chambered "stomachs" including the rumen, reticulum, omasum, and abomasum. They have a spiral colon. Their extensive gut is designed to get as many nutrients as possible from the microbes that really make up their diet. (The grass feeds the bugs, the bugs feed the cow.)
Metabolic diseases make up a big part of their care. Even if they get something viral, it's the keto acidosis and milk fever that do them in (Unless the virus is bad ass, but that's a whole other chapter.) Reportables include Hoof and Mouth, BSE, and a few others.
Just follow the Calcium, sugars and water (milk components) in dairy cows.
I feel like half of my cow questions involved diarrhea at different stages of life, or had the answers:yeah...not really related to the questions they ask on the NAVLE, but good try!
hardware disease, Johne's, and some toxic plants was more than enough for cows.
I was gonna be completely ridiculous and say "The cow says moo!" Then thought, what the hell: "A cow is a ruminent." And somehow my strung out brain changed it from funny to the first bit of my lecture to the strictly dog and cat vet techs I work with.yeah...not really related to the questions they ask on the NAVLE, but good try!
hardware disease, Johne's, and some toxic plants was more than enough for cows.
yeah, there was a lot on diarrhea.I feel like half of my cow questions involved diarrhea at different stages of life, or had the answers:
A.) oxytet
B.) ceftiofur
C.) cull
D.) benign neglect
Eanie meanie Miney mo were my friends. Why they couldn't ask me about all those vesicular reportable diseases? I dunno.
Well yeah. A lot of figuring out which metabolic or infectious problem you've got is based on the presence or absence of diarrhea and the amount of wasted grain passed straight through. The cow has a giant, amazing gut. Milk and meat are just the covering that distract people from the fact that the cow is it's gut.yeah, there was a lot on diarrhea.
Whenever I didn't know, if oxytet was on the list, I picked it.A.) oxytet
B.) ceftiofur
C.) cull
D.) benign neglect
None of those would really help you much at all for boards. The questions tend to be more like a story about some sick cows, where they give you background info on the farm, the signalment, symptoms and the answers are a list of treatments or prognoses, or comorbidities and such. It's uber annoying when you are like oh f*** yeah I know what disease that is!!!! And that's not the question. You're totally ****ed if you can narrow it down between like two diseases, and that's not the question.Way oversimplified, but I've also been told you'd do fine with just dogs, cats and horses.
Oxytet does have a nice ring to it.Whenever I didn't know, if oxytet was on the list, I picked it.
Ditto. All the diarrhea questions had an age associated with it, which narrowed it down to like 4 or 5 diseases. Pretty sure one question mentioned diarrhea with a fetid odor, but not color. I remember wondering if that was supposed to be the same as septic tank smelling salmonella.I had questions on pig diarrhea. I don't recall anyone mentioning colour. I feel like it was usually more down to age.
had abortion questions for sure.Ditto. All the diarrhea questions had an age associated with it, which narrowed it down to like 4 or 5 diseases. Pretty sure one question mentioned diarrhea with a fetid odor, but not color. I remember wondering if that was supposed to be the same as septic tank smelling salmonella.
Pig abortion questions were also pretty hot topics.
you'll be fine - i knew nothing about large animals in general, didnt have any large animal rotations before navle, and managed to be able to remember my own name by the time i took it on week 5 of medicine. the odds were stacked against me, but i survived and you will tooEveryone food animal related gets penicillin or oxytet. Or gets killed, if they're a chicken. I feel like I have an OK background on diseases from class, but we didn't focus much on treatment so, um, ahhhh!
I appreciate the fact that I had my only equine med block already and it was fairly slow, so we actually spent a good bit of time on navle stuff. I do well on cat/dog things, so I'm really not that stressed, just got a lot of cow questions wrong in a row there, haha.
Hoolllyy crap I know nothing about cows and I'm taking the NAVLE in a week.![]()
Cows have 4 chambered "stomachs" including the rumen, reticulum, omasum, and abomasum. They have a spiral colon. Their extensive gut is designed to get as many nutrients as possible from the microbes that really make up their diet. (The grass feeds the bugs, the bugs feed the cow.)
Metabolic diseases make up a big part of their care. Even if they get something viral, it's the keto acidosis and milk fever that do them in (Unless the virus is bad ass, but that's a whole other chapter.) Reportables include Hoof and Mouth, BSE, and a few others.
Just follow the Calcium, sugars and water (milk components) in dairy cows.
Large animals toxicities in particular I just didn't care to study at all because it was way more effort than the couple of points it might score me on the NAVLE.
I had no questions that I can recall on pig diarrhea
But in the end, since the questions mostly went for "Here's all this stuff .... what's the treatment?" I just picked depopulate every time.
Nuke it from orbit. Only way to be sure.
Except for pigs, i chose the grind up the piglet and spray the piglet juice on mom's snout. Cause, why the hell not?
I got excited when I saw this because I thought "OH! I know that one!" and then I saw you said it would not help answer board questions. 🙁I knew a ton about cows and pigs because of the vet school curriculum, and I could tell you a ton about them, but like how many mL of semen a pig produces and all that random crap sitting in the brain really doesn't help me answer boards questions.
Hahahahaha. Tonight is like an all-star line-up of "things you hospitalize on ER": 1 ibuprofen tox, 1 dka, 1 uo, 1 parvo, 1 panc, and 1 chf. Only missing a hbc, hge, and a couple others.
I had your HBC. It had head trauma and went agonal and died shortly after arrival. 🙁Hahahahaha. Tonight is like an all-star line-up of "things you hospitalize on ER": 1 ibuprofen tox, 1 dka, 1 uo, 1 parvo, 1 panc, and 1 chf. Only missing a hbc, hge, and a couple others.
sounds like a winner.we had a woman who called us in the morning and asked the receptionist if she should euthanize her dog, who has been seizuring for 2 days straight, because she does not have the money to hospitalize and the rectal valium isn't working. the receptionist of course asked me, the lowly neurology intern. i said she needs to see a vet. she of course comes to us, but the receptionist let her make an appointment in the late morning because she said she was not going to come through ER and wanted to speak with the neurologist. she comes in, the dog is actively seizuring. the neurologist comes in and goes "your dog is actively seizuring. we need to give her medications right now" and the woman said "SHE IS NOT!! YOU ARE LYING!!" and then finally started wailing and let us take the dog back and put an IVC in and give it some midazolam. we took the dog back to her, she said she was going to euthanize, then took up about 5 hours of one of our receptionists' time with telling her stories about the dog as it's basically on and off twitching (with the doctors coming in and giving midaz anytime it started back up). she finally euthanized, wouldn't speak with me or the neurologist again as she said we were too "brash" so one of the rotating interns went in and did it. she called back the next week and yelled at the receptionist who had literally spent 5 hours in the room with her for not personally calling to check on her. what the hell.
we had a woman who called us in the morning and asked the receptionist if she should euthanize her dog, who has been seizuring for 2 days straight, because she does not have the money to hospitalize and the rectal valium isn't working. the receptionist of course asked me, the lowly neurology intern. i said she needs to see a vet. she of course comes to us, but the receptionist let her make an appointment in the late morning because she said she was not going to come through ER and wanted to speak with the neurologist. she comes in, the dog is actively seizuring. the neurologist comes in and goes "your dog is actively seizuring. we need to give her medications right now" and the woman said "SHE IS NOT!! YOU ARE LYING!!" and then finally started wailing and let us take the dog back and put an IVC in and give it some midazolam. we took the dog back to her, she said she was going to euthanize, then took up about 5 hours of one of our receptionists' time with telling her stories about the dog as it's basically on and off twitching (with the doctors coming in and giving midaz anytime it started back up). she finally euthanized, wouldn't speak with me or the neurologist again as she said we were too "brash" so one of the rotating interns went in and did it. she called back the next week and yelled at the receptionist who had literally spent 5 hours in the room with her for not personally calling to check on her. what the hell.
I got excited when I saw this because I thought "OH! I know that one!" and then I saw you said it would not help answer board questions. 🙁
I have been doing the vetprep "daily dose" and I'm surprised at how many I get right. Do any of you think the daily dose helps at all? Obviously I have a lot of time before I even think about boards.
what about your cluster seizures/status epilepticus patient???
Oh man this surgery rotation is going to get old really quick. I just don't know how excited I can get about standing around for a couple hours and then putting skin sutures in things...
Sent my pup off to a new home today. Shed a lot of tears over it, but my male dog hated him and I couldn't risk this pup A) getting hurt or B) learning bad habits- he was growling back at my male dog and not in a nice way.
The family that's taking him lost their GSD a few months ago and have been looking for another. Fingers crossed it works out for this awesome pup.
Snuggling with my two dogs and trying not to feel too heartbroken. Its amazing how attached you can get in less than a week.
that sucks. I'm sorry you had to make the decision, but it sounds like it was the right one.Sent my pup off to a new home today. Shed a lot of tears over it, but my male dog hated him and I couldn't risk this pup A) getting hurt or B) learning bad habits- he was growling back at my male dog and not in a nice way.
The family that's taking him lost their GSD a few months ago and have been looking for another. Fingers crossed it works out for this awesome pup.
Snuggling with my two dogs and trying not to feel too heartbroken. Its amazing how attached you can get in less than a week.
That's way more than I ever did there. Typically I stood scrubbed in about 10ft away from the table because there was also a pair of residents and 2 seniors scrubbed in tooOh man this surgery rotation is going to get old really quick. I just don't know how excited I can get about standing around for a couple hours and then putting skin sutures in things...
That's way more than I ever did there. Typically I stood scrubbed in about 10ft away from the table because there was also a pair of residents and 2 seniors scrubbed in too
God, that sucks. I definitely feel lucky to have had the exposure I've had and to have had so many solo surgeries.That's way more than I ever did there. Typically I stood scrubbed in about 10ft away from the table because there was also a pair of residents and 2 seniors scrubbed in too
Yes. Most new grads that I know do about 1 spay before graduating and a decent amount of them don't do the whole thing.That is crazy. So you can complete fourth year without ever really doing surgery?
Do you guys get to do the smaller procedures (like lacerations or small lump removals) when they come in?
That is crazy. So you can complete fourth year without ever really doing surgery?
Do you guys get to do the smaller procedures (like lacerations or small lump removals) when they come in?
Walked into class today, went over to my table, and saw a girl in the corner with a pitbull wearing a service vest. Immediately became aware of the dog's demeanor, the body language was clear as day. Of course, Corky's tail's wagging as he loves everything on the face of this earth. I put him in a down stay under the desk and the pitbull goes nuts; starts barking and lunges at my dog.
I proceeded to ask the girl the 2 questions you're legally allowed to ask regarding service dogs. She answered the first "He's for anxiety." That gave it away immediately, emotional support animals are not service animals. She answered the second question, "Well, ummm, nothing yet, but he's starting training this week." I said to her, "Mam, I'm asking you respectfully to please leave, you cannot have this dog in public. He was quite aggressive towards my dog. I'd like to talk to you outside the class for a second if you don't mind."
I made sure the situation was under control, went outside less than 10 seconds later, and she had bolted. It's really sad, because the dog clearly had fake service gear on, and according to other people in the class, she had just rescued this dog a week before and told some people "He doesn't really do well around other people and animals." Well then wtf is he doing in public? Really sad how people take advantage of the system; laws surrounding service animals need to be tightened down.
Walked into class today, went over to my table, and saw a girl in the corner with a pitbull wearing a service vest. Immediately became aware of the dog's demeanor, the body language was clear as day. Of course, Corky's tail's wagging as he loves everything on the face of this earth. I put him in a down stay under the desk and the pitbull goes nuts; starts barking and lunges at my dog.
I proceeded to ask the girl the 2 questions you're legally allowed to ask regarding service dogs. She answered the first "He's for anxiety." That gave it away immediately, emotional support animals are not service animals. She answered the second question, "Well, ummm, nothing yet, but he's starting training this week." I said to her, "Mam, I'm asking you respectfully to please leave, you cannot have this dog in public. He was quite aggressive towards my dog. I'd like to talk to you outside the class for a second if you don't mind."
I made sure the situation was under control, went outside less than 10 seconds later, and she had bolted. It's really sad, because the dog clearly had fake service gear on, and according to other people in the class, she had just rescued this dog a week before and told some people "He doesn't really do well around other people and animals." Well then wtf is he doing in public? Really sad how people take advantage of the system; laws surrounding service animals need to be tightened down.
Yes. Most new grads that I know do about 1 spay before graduating and a decent amount of them don't do the whole thing.
This is why I never, ever, ever, ever, ever offer free service to people who ask for it. Those are the people that never STOP asking for things, and they're the people who start screaming the minute you draw a line in the sand about how much free care to give.