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alissa14 said:
All this discussion make me think about something that happened at my clinic not long before I started working there. I don’t remember the exact circumstances. Basically someone had brought in a kitten that had bitten her son and wasn’t acting right. The doctor noticed neurological issues and was concerned about possible rabies. Explained this to the person and gave options including euthanasia and rabies testing. This person elected euthanasia and testing. Somehow a rescue that was connected to the kitten I don’t remember how whether these people had adopted the kitten from them or what, caught wind that the doctor had euthanized the kitten and decided to start a smear campaign against the clinic and the doctor. People called daily with angry calls saying that the doctor’s license should be revoked and the clinic should shut down, how dare we euthanize an innocent kitten who we didn’t even know if it had rabies. Bad reviews by people who had never been there were also left online. It was bad. It’s sad because it’s this mob mentality that drives so many in our profession to suicide. Thankfully, my doctor is alive and well and our clinic is thriving, but I’ve heard of stories where angry rescues/people/clients led to a much darker ending
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Didn’t something similar happen regarding a dog recently that was a stray and neurological and the rescue who didn’t even have ownership of the dog flipped their ****
 
Found out a few hours ago that my aunt died this morning, and her 14 year old daughter was who found her. While I've grown distant from her recently due to family issues, its still incredibly sad. I feel horrible for my mom, my grandparents, but especially my cousin. My sister was her favorite cousin, and my cousin lost her and her older brother within 3.5 months of one another in 2018. And now her mother is gone. Theres so much going on right now within the family that the fall out is going to be a **** show. I just hope my parents and I can make sure my cousin doesnt get lost in the noise.
 
batsenecal said:
Found out a few hours ago that my aunt died this morning, and her 14 year old daughter was who found her. While I've grown distant from her recently due to family issues, its still incredibly sad. I feel horrible for my mom, my grandparents, but especially my cousin. My sister was her favorite cousin, and my cousin lost her and her older brother within 3.5 months of one another in 2018. And now her mother is gone. Theres so much going on right now within the family that the fall out is going to be a **** show. I just hope my parents and I can make sure my cousin doesnt get lost in the noise.
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I'm incredibly sorry for your loss, bats. There is just so much sadness in the world right now and it hurts my heart. 🙁

I'll keep you and your family--particularly your cousin--in my thoughts.
 
DVMDream said:
I'd say there are a few more reasons for boxing down cats other than rabies. They won't be common or frequent and I can count on one hand the number of times I have felt that boxing down was in the best interest for that particular cat patient.

But, yes, even in cats, boxing down is needed, on the rare occasion.

Now, gassing down dogs, well, I won't get into that other than to say, if you can get the oxygen mask on the dog, you can stab it with drugs.
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I actually started to post something similar, then I just got tired thinking of the knee-jerk "that's cruel," "you should take some anesthesia CE," and "well <I> think that you should <NEVER> box down <ANY> animal" sort of B.S. that some people like to spout.

I mean, I don't remember the last time I did have to box a cat down, but I sure as heck have done it and there are sure as heck times where I think it's less stressful for the cat, safer for the cat, and safer for my staff ---- and all of those factors matter. You can bet your bottom dollar that if I have a SUPER fractious cat that also is unvaccinated that is presenting for a legit euthanasia reason ..... boxing that cat down is something I'd consider. I'd <prefer> other means, like some nice kitty magic, but boxing it down is definitely an option to protect everyone involved.

So thanks for posting that. I agree. The "you should NEVER box down a cat" thing is overstated.
 
LetItSnow said:
I actually started to post something similar, then I just got tired thinking of the knee-jerk "that's cruel," "you should take some anesthesia CE," and "well <I> think that you should <NEVER> box down <ANY> animal" sort of B.S. that some people like to spout.

I mean, I don't remember the last time I did have to box a cat down, but I sure as heck have done it and there are sure as heck times where I think it's less stressful for the cat, safer for the cat, and safer for my staff ---- and all of those factors matter. You can bet your bottom dollar that if I have a SUPER fractious cat that also is unvaccinated that is presenting for a legit euthanasia reason ..... boxing that cat down is something I'd consider. I'd <prefer> other means, like some nice kitty magic, but boxing it down is definitely an option to protect everyone involved.

So thanks for posting that. I agree. The "you should NEVER box down a cat" thing is overstated.
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Yup. Cats can do serious damage to themselves if you try to net them etc to give injectable. Had one a long time ago get away and smashed her face in trying to get out the glass door over and over again.
 
Wow, never ranted here before!!

Got a call ~12:20 PM from an owner who says her dog is having violent vomiting and diarrhea that contains blood since last night, and now he can’t stand. I talk with the doctor and then explain to her that we can see her as an emergency drop off appointment, or she can go to the local 24-hr facility (we barely ever keep patients overnight even after surgery). Sometimes depending on the case we have to refer to emergency anyway, which I tell her ahead of time. She says she wants to come here.

I bring the dog in and do a TPR, dr wants to do full bloodwork/cpl/catheter/fluids/etc. Dogs not doing super hot, doc puts a catheter in. I call her and it takes me 3 different phone numbers to reach her (and not on the one she gave us). First question: what’s wrong with him!? Uh, idk, we haven’t done any diagnostics yet? I tell her he’s stable but quote the cost of bloodwork. She flips out at me and is totally hysterical, I can’t understand what she’s saying but basically complaining about the cost of the bloodwork, how can we do this when her animal is sick, etc. i try to comfort her, talk about going step by step, discuss care credit etc. it gets to the point where I repeatedly ask her if she wants to go somewhere else? Eventually I tell her we’ll stop everything and she says she will call us back.

A few mins later calls and says she wants to go to emergency. We copy all the records, keep the catheter in, etc. we try to take payment and she flips out again and is hysterical about the cost of placing the catheter, even though it will be put in at emergency anyway. Cue back and forth with the dr where she is hysterical with him also. I later find out she does this every time. By the time she was done she had screamed at me, the receptionist, another tech that picked up the phone after she got disconnected, and the doctor.

She calls back to say she wants him to stay here and now approves the bloodwork. Now dr gets ~20 min lunch break since all this took so long.

Lmao I can’t. I hope I’m a vet that is willing to let clients go when they say they are going to. It isn’t worth all this.
 
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Minnerbelle said:
from the AAFP anesthesia guidelines:

“Chamber inductions should never be routine but rather a ‘last resort’ and only when other approaches have failed. Transferring the cat to an anesthetic induction chamber (many cats can be transferred by placing the open end of the carrier over the top of the chamber) allows the administration of an inhalant anesthetic without having to touch the cat.

Chamber induction in unpremedicated, agitated cats is the least desirable technique described in these Guidelines, since an agitated cat will require more inhalant anesthetic to achieve the desired endpoint. This increased inhalant anesthetic requirement results in severe depression of the cardiovascular system. Additionally, there is an increased release of catecholamines that predispose the cat to the development of cardiac arrhythmias.”

also the amount of gas anesthesia waste that personnel is exposed to is very high with this approach as there is a high volume of a high concentration that is released when you open the chamber.

also, from your description... I would consider that regular usage... if you use it as your sedation protocol. It really should be a very rare exception for all of your sedated procedures. Not we only use it if the cat needs sedation.
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The flip way to read that though is that it "should never be routine" but very specifically does indicate it is an appropriate "last resort".

So... I feel comfortable with my infrequent (as in, I don't remember the last time I had to resort to it) use.
 
JJ Bittenbinder said:
Wow, never ranted here before!!

Got a call ~12:20 PM from an owner who says her dog is having violent vomiting and diarrhea that contains blood since last night, and now he can’t stand. I talk with the doctor and then explain to her that we can see her as an emergency drop off appointment, or she can go to the local 24-hr facility (we barely ever keep patients overnight even after surgery). Sometimes depending on the case we have to refer to emergency anyway, which I tell her ahead of time. She says she wants to come here.

I bring the dog in and do a TPR, dr wants to do full bloodwork/cpl/catheter/fluids/etc. Dogs not doing super hot, doc puts a catheter in. I call her and it takes me 3 different phone numbers to reach her (and not on the one she gave us). First question: what’s wrong with him!? Uh, idk, we haven’t done any diagnostics yet? I tell her he’s stable but quote the cost of bloodwork. She flips out at me and is totally hysterical, I can’t understand what she’s saying but basically complaining about the cost of the bloodwork, how can we do this when her animal is sick, etc. i try to comfort her, talk about going step by step, discuss care credit etc. it gets to the point where I repeatedly ask her if she wants to go somewhere else? Eventually I tell her we’ll stop everything and she says she will call us back.

A few mins later calls and says she wants to go to emergency. We copy all the records, keep the catheter in, etc. we try to take payment and she flips out again and is hysterical about the cost of placing the catheter, even though it will be put in at emergency anyway. Cue back and forth with the dr where she is hysterical with him also. I later find out she does this every time. By the time she was done she had screamed at me, the receptionist, another tech that picked up the phone after she got disconnected, and the doctor.

She calls back to say she wants him to stay here and now approves the bloodwork. Now dr gets ~20 min lunch break since all this took so long.

Lmao I can’t. I hope I’m a vet that is willing to let clients go when they say they are going to. It isn’t worth all this.
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I don't entertain these people long.

These are your options, this is the cost, your pet will likely also need ER care as well, it will cost more, much more there, I am going to let you go so you can take some time to think about it, call back when you have decided. *Click*.

I don't play emotional vampire and if they start screaming they get 1 chance to stop and then I tell them I refuse to give them service.
 
LetItSnow said:
The flip way to read that though is that it "should never be routine" but very specifically does indicate it is an appropriate "last resort".

So... I feel comfortable with my infrequent (as in, I don't remember the last time I had to resort to it) use.
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yeah I don’t think it’s saying never to use it. It simply states it shouldn’t be used routinely, and why it’s not ideal. You use it only when you have to (as in, not the majority of time cats need sedation in your clinic).

I haven’t boxed down a cat since 2016, but the few times I have, I felt no qualms about it. I did it because it was the best case scenario for that particular patient in that circumstance.
 
SkiOtter said:
Didn’t something similar happen regarding a dog recently that was a stray and neurological and the rescue who didn’t even have ownership of the dog flipped their ****
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Hmmm I’m not sure if I heard about that one. Most recent rabies scare I heard was a few months ago a cat tested positive. One of our techs actually was there when the cat was euthanized. This was at a different clinic.
 
DVMDream said:
I don't entertain these people long.

These are your options, this is the cost, your pet will likely also need ER care as well, it will cost more, much more there, I am going to let you go so you can take some time to think about it, call back when you have decided. *Click*.

I don't play emotional vampire and if they start screaming they get 1 chance to stop and then I tell them I refuse to give them service.
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Yeah this is the way to do it. Dog should have just gone to emergency anyway. She sent a followup email apologizing to the doctor saying she was sorry there was a breakdown in communication and she wasn’t yelling it’s just her connection was bad and he’s so great and she knows he’s going to treat her pet well. Didn’t apologize to any of us though. Also I learned afterwards that she and the dr used to date a long time ago, big yikes. Good times.
 
@batsenecal im so sorry for your loss! I have had my fair share of family drama and I know how intense it can be. I’ll keep you and your family in my prayers.
 
alissa14 said:
Hmmm I’m not sure if I heard about that one. Most recent rabies scare I heard was a few months ago a cat tested positive. One of our techs actually was there when the cat was euthanized. This was at a different clinic.
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I think it might’ve been in St. Louis but the Internet was very mad at the vet who euthanized a dog with neurological signs (and maybe wounds? I don’t really remember) versus letting a 10 day quarantine happen even though the dog had no owner and was not owned by the rescue and was still owned by animal control and AC protocol was to euth it
 
Today I took in a 16 year old cat whose owner was very confused and upset about his sudden weight loss. After taking a history, she offhand mentions something about "his thyroid condition" so I ask if he's on medication. "I ran out of his Methimazole a couple weeks ago, so no, not anymore." Gee, I wonder why your cat is suddenly losing weight? :bang:
 
I keep seeing posts on facebook from people I truly love that have been a big part of my life. Even educated health care professionals. People I would normally respect posting stuff against masks/vaccines/ just plain conspiracies and garbage. So self absorbed and politicized as well as if the US are the only ones being affected by the virus. It's all been weighing on me recently and just makes me really really sad and not very optimistic about much these days
ETA I responded I couldn't help it. Now I feel like I'm living in a dumpster that's on fire. *insert that spongebob meme where everything is on fire but its fine*
 
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MixedAnimals77 said:
I keep seeing posts on facebook from people I truly love that have been a big part of my life. Even educated health care professionals. People I would normally respect posting stuff against masks/vaccines/ just plain conspiracies and garbage. So self absorbed and politicized as well as if the US are the only ones being affected by the virus. It's all been weighing on me recently and just makes me really really sad and not very optimistic about much these days
ETA I responded I couldn't help it. Now I feel like I'm living in a dumpster that's on fire. *insert that spongebob meme where everything is on fire but its fine*
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If it makes you feel better, I’ve seen quite a few people on my friends list do a 180 on their beliefs/feelings about COVID-19, masks, social distancing, etc. over the last two weeks. The dumpster is still on fire, but that fire is getting smaller some places. I even had a childhood friend decide to vaccinate her son after years of polluting her mind with online anti-vaxxer research.

Honestly, many of these people are scared. They’re dealing with a lot of cognitive dissonance. It’s unpleasant and psychologically discomforting. As a result, they dig their heels in, make a lot of noise, and employ whatever cognitive defense mechanisms they can to stay suspended in a state of denial, like provably false and irrational conspiracy theories. Some might never come around, but give it time and most will. Just be ready to accept them with virtual open arms.
 
@finnickthedog You’re definitely not the only person who has to put up with those types of situations. I’ve been in that position more than a few times thoughout vet school and especially recently as more and more classes/rotations have prioritized virtual groupwork. I always secretly love when groups are just assigned. It’s just such unneccesary stress otherwise for people who aren’t social butterflies.
 
Jess Monster said:
@finnickthedog You’re definitely not the only person who has to put up with those types of situations. I’ve been in that position more than a few times thoughout vet school and especially recently as more and more classes/rotations have prioritized virtual groupwork. I always secretly love when groups are just assigned. It’s just such unneccesary stress otherwise for people who aren’t social butterflies.
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Unless the groups are perpetually assigned by alphabet and your last name letter people are just not people you enjoy.
 
Weird random thing this morning. We use Instinct for inpatient treatment sheet stuff, and we have monitors on the walls to show what patients are hospitalized, code status, etc.

I happen to look up this morning and realized that all patients A-L were DNR, and all patients M-Z were CPR. For an ICU that very rarely has fewer than 20 patients, I thought that was pretty damn weird. 🙂
 
Cat bite put me in the hospital. Sat in the ICU triage area remoting into work to finish paperwork. Rounded cases on the phone in the hospital bed. IV antibiotics, think I had an allergic reaction to one. Internship life is awesome.
 
itsrocky said:
Trying to buy a car has literally turned into a neight are. I’m so sick of the stress and the predation but I need something right now. Ugh.
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I just bought a car and had a pretty smooth experience so can share what worked for me
What I did was use online search engines to search in area, price range, and with what mileage I was willing to take on and features I wanted. Then I got an idea of what would be available to me, researched the makes and models to narrow it down to just a few.

I ultimately decided a Subaru was the best choice for me. I found several similar ones with clean carfaxes in my area for all the same price, tried talking price over the phone for what I deemed the worst one, and they wouldn't budge on cost at all. So I expanded my search area and found one 3.5 hours away, arranged a test drive ahead of time, and went specifically to buy that car so there was no predation, cause I had decided ahead of time. The only thing I could've done better is to have gotten my car loan figured out before arriving at the dealer.. Had never had to buy my own car before so I had no idea.
 
itsrocky said:
Trying to buy a car has literally turned into a neight are. I’m so sick of the stress and the predation but I need something right now. Ugh.
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I gave up on dealerships for used cars for this very reason. When I got in an accident last year that resulted in my car being totaled, I first tried visiting a dealership to browse their used cars. It was incredibly scummy. First car I tried, I asked when the inspection expired and the guy kept saying "I don't know, we'll talk about that later." What do you mean you don't know?! You have the paperwork right in front of you! I had to find out myself. Turns out it expired THAT day. I walked away (more like ran) and started looking on Craigslist.

I got a 2002 Honda Civic for $2k from a private seller. I've put 20k miles on it in less than a year with nothing but regular maintenance and it passed inspection with flying colors. I am so glad I bought private. Dealerships are not worth it. My first car before this one was a 2003 Toyota Corolla for $1.5k with 240k miles on it when my dad helped me buy it and I drove it for three years (would still be chugging along today if I hadn't crashed it).

Not that you need my advice, but just in case it helps - Buy private. Find someone who is the 1st or 2nd owner of the car and took relatively good care of it, knows the full history, and is just looking for something newer, not selling because it's dead. Click out immediately if they don't post a LOT of photos of all angles of the exterior and interior, or they miss key information like body style, year, miles, when last maintenance was done, etc. Trust the sellers that openly say what they know is wrong with the car. The ones that claim everything is perfect are trying to hide something. When you visit, check everywhere for any rust (can get you a failed inspection even if the car runs great). When you go to look and test drive, bring a friend/family member for safety (and to remind you to check certain things). And, of course, only buy clean titles. My dad has been trading and driving used cars for years and this is the advice he gave me when I was car shopping.

I know how stressful it is to be car shopping alone, especially when you need something yesterday. Hang in there and keep looking!

(Not that I'm biased or anything but the 2000s Hondas and Toyotas are amazing cars if you're looking for something cheap, readily available, and incredibly reliable~)
 
Aprilthearab said:
I gave up on dealerships for used cars for this very reason. When I got in an accident last year that resulted in my car being totaled, I first tried visiting a dealership to browse their used cars. It was incredibly scummy. First car I tried, I asked when the inspection expired and the guy kept saying "I don't know, we'll talk about that later." What do you mean you don't know?! You have the paperwork right in front of you! I had to find out myself. Turns out it expired THAT day. I walked away (more like ran) and started looking on Craigslist.

I got a 2002 Honda Civic for $2k from a private seller. I've put 20k miles on it in less than a year with nothing but regular maintenance and it passed inspection with flying colors. I am so glad I bought private. Dealerships are not worth it. My first car before this one was a 2003 Toyota Corolla for $1.5k with 240k miles on it when my dad helped me buy it and I drove it for three years (would still be chugging along today if I hadn't crashed it).

Not that you need my advice, but just in case it helps - Buy private. Find someone who is the 1st or 2nd owner of the car and took relatively good care of it, knows the full history, and is just looking for something newer, not selling because it's dead. Click out immediately if they don't post a LOT of photos of all angles of the exterior and interior, or they miss key information like body style, year, miles, when last maintenance was done, etc. Trust the sellers that openly say what they know is wrong with the car. The ones that claim everything is perfect are trying to hide something. When you visit, check everywhere for any rust (can get you a failed inspection even if the car runs great). When you go to look and test drive, bring a friend/family member for safety (and to remind you to check certain things). And, of course, only buy clean titles. My dad has been trading and driving used cars for years and this is the advice he gave me when I was car shopping.

I know how stressful it is to be car shopping alone, especially when you need something yesterday. Hang in there and keep looking!

(Not that I'm biased or anything but the 2000s Hondas and Toyotas are amazing cars if you're looking for something cheap, readily available, and incredibly reliable~)
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I think have it all worked out now, but your advice was great! I agree though—I’ve been put through the wringer with negotiations.Good thing what I’ve (hopefully finally) bought will last a while, so that way the next car I buy will be in cash. Never want to go through this again.
 
CoffeeQuestionMark said:
I just bought a car and had a pretty smooth experience so can share what worked for me
What I did was use online search engines to search in area, price range, and with what mileage I was willing to take on and features I wanted. Then I got an idea of what would be available to me, researched the makes and models to narrow it down to just a few.

I ultimately decided a Subaru was the best choice for me. I found several similar ones with clean carfaxes in my area for all the same price, tried talking price over the phone for what I deemed the worst one, and they wouldn't budge on cost at all. So I expanded my search area and found one 3.5 hours away, arranged a test drive ahead of time, and went specifically to buy that car so there was no predation, cause I had decided ahead of time. The only thing I could've done better is to have gotten my car loan figured out before arriving at the dealer.. Had never had to buy my own car before so I had no idea.
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that’s been a lot of my problem is this is my first time buying so it’s been rough. Thankfully I have awesome family that’s come through to help!
 
I bought a used car from a car rental agency. You know it has had one owner and regular maintenance. Mileage will probably be a little high for the year, but usually they are 2-3 years old. They set their price to the KBB value, so no haggling involved and they will bring it to the nearest rental office even if the car is located in a different state (plus dealerships will usually pick you up and bring you to their office... not sure how that's working in COVID times though). Limited bells and whistles in my car since a lot of rentals are base models, but I've had it 12 years and it's still kicking.
 
flameshock said:
Cat bite put me in the hospital. Sat in the ICU triage area remoting into work to finish paperwork. Rounded cases on the phone in the hospital bed. IV antibiotics, think I had an allergic reaction to one. Internship life is awesome.
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That really sucks. I got a good cat bite last year too, right in my wrist. I bandaged it at the vet hospital then got sent to the human hospital. The nurse (young, probably still in training) was very tentative and worried about hurting me while taking off my bandage so I had to do it for her :hilarious:
 
Aprilthearab said:
That really sucks. I got a good cat bite last year too, right in my wrist. I bandaged it at the vet hospital then got sent to the human hospital. The nurse (young, probably still in training) was very tentative and worried about hurting me while taking off my bandage so I had to do it for her :hilarious:
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I’ve had some bites, and they always insist on bandaging them for me. I tell them every time that I’m just going to take the bandage off, but they continue to do it anyway. Their bandages usually itch, or pull uncomfortably, so I make my own.
 
Aprilthearab said:
I gave up on dealerships for used cars for this very reason. When I got in an accident last year that resulted in my car being totaled, I first tried visiting a dealership to browse their used cars. It was incredibly scummy. First car I tried, I asked when the inspection expired and the guy kept saying "I don't know, we'll talk about that later." What do you mean you don't know?! You have the paperwork right in front of you! I had to find out myself. Turns out it expired THAT day. I walked away (more like ran) and started looking on Craigslist.

I got a 2002 Honda Civic for $2k from a private seller. I've put 20k miles on it in less than a year with nothing but regular maintenance and it passed inspection with flying colors. I am so glad I bought private. Dealerships are not worth it. My first car before this one was a 2003 Toyota Corolla for $1.5k with 240k miles on it when my dad helped me buy it and I drove it for three years (would still be chugging along today if I hadn't crashed it).

Not that you need my advice, but just in case it helps - Buy private. Find someone who is the 1st or 2nd owner of the car and took relatively good care of it, knows the full history, and is just looking for something newer, not selling because it's dead. Click out immediately if they don't post a LOT of photos of all angles of the exterior and interior, or they miss key information like body style, year, miles, when last maintenance was done, etc. Trust the sellers that openly say what they know is wrong with the car. The ones that claim everything is perfect are trying to hide something. When you visit, check everywhere for any rust (can get you a failed inspection even if the car runs great). When you go to look and test drive, bring a friend/family member for safety (and to remind you to check certain things). And, of course, only buy clean titles. My dad has been trading and driving used cars for years and this is the advice he gave me when I was car shopping.

I know how stressful it is to be car shopping alone, especially when you need something yesterday. Hang in there and keep looking!

(Not that I'm biased or anything but the 2000s Hondas and Toyotas are amazing cars if you're looking for something cheap, readily available, and incredibly reliable~)
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This is basically what I did when I had to replace my car (and what my family did when they bought my first car). Scoured Craigslist for a few days, filtering by "for sale by owner" and budget. First car was a 2004 Honda CR-V with ~70k miles (this in 2010) whose first and only owner was a grad student who was selling because she was moving out of state. Second and current car is a 2008 CR-V with ~50k miles (this in 2019) whose first and only owner was an old lady who didn't drive much but kept good care of the car. Both purchased at reasonable prices, 100% paid in full. Neither has given me any problem.

TL;DR I'm seconding both the Craigslist thing and the 2000s era Hondas.
 
Aprilthearab said:
I gave up on dealerships for used cars for this very reason. When I got in an accident last year that resulted in my car being totaled, I first tried visiting a dealership to browse their used cars. It was incredibly scummy. First car I tried, I asked when the inspection expired and the guy kept saying "I don't know, we'll talk about that later." What do you mean you don't know?! You have the paperwork right in front of you! I had to find out myself. Turns out it expired THAT day. I walked away (more like ran) and started looking on Craigslist.

I got a 2002 Honda Civic for $2k from a private seller. I've put 20k miles on it in less than a year with nothing but regular maintenance and it passed inspection with flying colors. I am so glad I bought private. Dealerships are not worth it. My first car before this one was a 2003 Toyota Corolla for $1.5k with 240k miles on it when my dad helped me buy it and I drove it for three years (would still be chugging along today if I hadn't crashed it).

Not that you need my advice, but just in case it helps - Buy private. Find someone who is the 1st or 2nd owner of the car and took relatively good care of it, knows the full history, and is just looking for something newer, not selling because it's dead. Click out immediately if they don't post a LOT of photos of all angles of the exterior and interior, or they miss key information like body style, year, miles, when last maintenance was done, etc. Trust the sellers that openly say what they know is wrong with the car. The ones that claim everything is perfect are trying to hide something. When you visit, check everywhere for any rust (can get you a failed inspection even if the car runs great). When you go to look and test drive, bring a friend/family member for safety (and to remind you to check certain things). And, of course, only buy clean titles. My dad has been trading and driving used cars for years and this is the advice he gave me when I was car shopping.

I know how stressful it is to be car shopping alone, especially when you need something yesterday. Hang in there and keep looking!

(Not that I'm biased or anything but the 2000s Hondas and Toyotas are amazing cars if you're looking for something cheap, readily available, and incredibly reliable~)
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capri1722 said:
This is basically what I did when I had to replace my car (and what my family did when they bought my first car). Scoured Craigslist for a few days, filtering by "for sale by owner" and budget. First car was a 2004 Honda CR-V with ~70k miles (this in 2010) whose first and only owner was a grad student who was selling because she was moving out of state. Second and current car is a 2008 CR-V with ~50k miles (this in 2019) whose first and only owner was an old lady who didn't drive much but kept good care of the car. Both purchased at reasonable prices, 100% paid in full. Neither has given me any problem.

TL;DR I'm seconding both the Craigslist thing and the 2000s era Hondas.
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Prior to my current car, I had two cars that I got from Craigslist. It’s actually a really good way to go if you know what to look for and what to avoid.
 
genny said:
I’ve had some bites, and they always insist on bandaging them for me. I tell them every time that I’m just going to take the bandage off, but they continue to do it anyway. Their bandages usually itch, or pull uncomfortably, so I make my own.
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I've avoided a lot of bandages in my life because I am allergic to adhesive so they can't tape a bunch of stuff to me

But also I've mostly gotten cat bites in finger tips and things so they aren't always very keen to bandage me because I guess it's less fun or something
 
vetmedhead said:
I've avoided a lot of bandages in my life because I am allergic to adhesive so they can't tape a bunch of stuff to me

But also I've mostly gotten cat bites in finger tips and things so they aren't always very keen to bandage me because I guess it's less fun or something
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Oh. I wonder if that's why I find bandages so itchy. I don't use adhesives when I do my own, just padding and vet wrap.
 
jaboo said:
Who has two thumbs and is incredibly sore after having gone back to work for 2 full days while she spent most of the summer on her couch?

This sad, sad, jaboo.

for real, can I have my 16 yo body back please? this one’s defective
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I'm glad you still have two thumbs?
 
genny said:
Oh. I wonder if that's why I find bandages so itchy. I don't use adhesives when I do my own, just padding and vet wrap.
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I get rashes in the shape of Band-Aids 😕 or if I get ECG leads then rashes in the shape of those

My mom does the same. Very weird bit hypoallergenic Band-Aids and medical tape don't do it so I dunno
 
the "solid" tegaderm does it to me. I have a pretty little scar from one I had after surgery...But, I can tolerate the "medipore" ones ok. Doc said it is because they use two different adhesives. Never have had an issue with other tapes and bandaids...just the "clear" type tegaderm
 
vetmedhead said:
I get rashes in the shape of Band-Aids 😕 or if I get ECG leads then rashes in the shape of those

My mom does the same. Very weird bit hypoallergenic Band-Aids and medical tape don't do it so I dunno
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I’ve heard of reactions to adhesives before. There was a documentary a while ago that talked about a woman who died after licking dozens of budget envelopes to mail out wedding invitations. I think it was called “Seinfeld”.
 
Everyone at my work is being extra short today. And I have an immediate family member That I share the home with getting a covid as we speak. And I need to make some money 😕 so fingers cross it is negative
 
ajs513 said:
I’ve heard of reactions to adhesives before. There was a documentary a while ago that talked about a woman who died after licking dozens of budget envelopes to mail out wedding invitations. I think it was called “Seinfeld”.
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Oh no I can't be Susan!


Also... I was talking about this allergy with a cardiology resident today while I was scrubbing in for a procedure and the person scrubbing in behind me turned around and said "Oh, I didn't realize you were here! I didn't realize it was you at first but you're literally the only person I know with that allergy." It was my roommate and I just hadn't recognized her with her mask on. :laugh:
 
We had a board inspection at work today (I wasn't there until after he had come and gone). Apparently, the inspector gave the pharmacist someone else's business card, had an electronic signature on the form he gave us from the lady on the business card, and dated the inspection March 2019. Not to mention other errors on the form, like who was the pharmacist on duty. :lame:
 
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