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[nyanko]

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Only one way to find out if she has more than one lynch avoidance, and we need to find out if she's just diddling around with us.....

 

[Filly Bay]

Nope, still not feeling it.

Does this turn you on?

Oh, here you go, post this and I'll like it.

Ceke, appreciate the unlynch, but go ahead and put it back if that's your only reason. FB is legit.

This is stupid, but go ahead and lynch me if no one feels like thinking today. It's a waste, though, I don't get anything out of it this time.

 

[Ceke2002]

Well I'd hate to leave anyone disappointed...

This is turning into the lynch equivalent of 23 positions in a one night stand, but okay...

Re-lynch Kam

 

[KCgophervet]

This Kam lynch is bothering me. Yes it's sketch she avoided lynch yesterday but her being silenced just makes it feel like a set up by wolves for an easy mislynch. Yes that's assuming she's actually silenced but why fake being silenced on thread and then communicate through PM? In the meantime no new candidates are being discussed. Yep, not digging this lynch, it's like starfishing in the bedroom.



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[KCgophervet]

Did kam have anything to do with nohika's rising? Might be worth checking that out...although why wouldnt she just tell us? Come on kam, talk dirty to us?

Hrmph, fishing for power roles are we? Could go for an SOB lynch today. His earlier posts also feel off to me but I was just assuming he was taking on the character.

Edit: I'm close but not quite there yet
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[KCgophervet]

To elaborate: I don't see the usefulness of a villager silencing Kam after the events is yesterday, when we all have questions for her. It could be a wolf (that's often a wolf ability) but if Kam is a wolf, why . . . ? Chaos is dead, unless we had more than one chaos role, but I could see it as a chaos move.

Thinking is hard.

This is why I'd rather be talking about the supposed silencer. It doesn't make sense to me that Kam would fake being half silenced

Edit: at that point might as well go all the way
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[Teepster87]

This is why I'd rather be talking about the supposed silencer. It doesn't make sense to me that Kam would fake being half silenced

Edit: at that point might as well go all the way
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I'd like a spice things up a bit and add someone new, but didn't see any staff out favorites from yesterday.
I'll try to get a re-read in during nap time

 

[Teepster87]

This is why I'd rather be talking about the supposed silencer. It doesn't make sense to me that Kam would fake being half silenced

Edit: at that point might as well go all the way
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It probably wouldn't be her first time faking it

 

[ddstothecor]

It's just hard for me to get past the lynch avoidance. I think it's just eggtremely necessary to crack this egg.

Is it cracked, or are we just breaking eggs again and again? Lynch avoidance is a classic mod redirection to either flesh out characters of extreme importance whether they be overwhelmingly good or devilishly evil. Some game tricks include making alternative criteria for a kill of the character in question like lynching an aligned wolf or village teammate. This game condition is likely in the name of fairness because taking out this person will lead to the scales' imbalance in the favor of one of the sides. How do you like your sides? Hot or cold? Ketchup or mustard? Bacon or sausage? Fries or onion rings? Baked or mashed potatoes? Green beans or asparagus? Are these even diametrically opposed? It's kind of like an egg and if someone can work that through a network of pipe or something (I'm really bad at this, can you tell?).

Anyway - I don't like lynch avoidance and ceke is giving me bad feels. I don't like soft silencing either.

Lynch Kam

 

[Ceke2002]

Is it cracked, or are we just breaking eggs again and again? Lynch avoidance is a classic mod redirection to either flesh out characters of extreme importance whether they be overwhelmingly good or devilishly evil. Some game tricks include making alternative criteria for a kill of the character in question like lynching an aligned wolf or village teammate. This game condition is likely in the name of fairness because taking out this person will lead to the scales' imbalance in the favor of one of the sides. How do you like your sides? Hot or cold? Ketchup or mustard? Bacon or sausage? Fries or onion rings? Baked or mashed potatoes? Green beans or asparagus? Are these even diametrically opposed? It's kind of like an egg and if someone can work that through a network of pipe or something (I'm really bad at this, can you tell?).

Anyway - I don't like lynch avoidance and ceke is giving me bad feels. I don't like soft silencing either.

Lynch Kam

I seem to give everyone bad feels, maybe I should work on my technique more.

If I get the chance I'm hoping to drag a wolf out of its wolfie den and beat it off, err I mean beat it to death with my bare hands, and then I'll toss it off the nearest cliff even if I have to toss myself off with it.

 

[Mad Jack]

I'll join the circle jerk lynch Kam

 

[nohika]

This Kam lynch is bothering me. Yes it's sketch she avoided lynch yesterday but her being silenced just makes it feel like a set up by wolves for an easy mislynch. Yes that's assuming she's actually silenced but why fake being silenced on thread and then communicate through PM? In the meantime no new candidates are being discussed. Yep, not digging this lynch, it's like starfishing in the bedroom.

It could be that the silencing is a result of the lynch avoidance. Or it's like a ball gag...can't talk, but your fingers still work.

lynch kam

 

[cdo96]

Is it cracked, or are we just breaking eggs again and again? Lynch avoidance is a classic mod redirection to either flesh out characters of extreme importance whether they be overwhelmingly good or devilishly evil. Some game tricks include making alternative criteria for a kill of the character in question like lynching an aligned wolf or village teammate. This game condition is likely in the name of fairness because taking out this person will lead to the scales' imbalance in the favor of one of the sides. How do you like your sides? Hot or cold? Ketchup or mustard? Bacon or sausage? Fries or onion rings? Baked or mashed potatoes? Green beans or asparagus? Are these even diametrically opposed? It's kind of like an egg and if someone can work that through a network of pipe or something (I'm really bad at this, can you tell?).

Anyway - I don't like lynch avoidance and ceke is giving me bad feels. I don't like soft silencing either.

Lynch Kam

I've never heard of lynch avoidance being village. I'm willing to try to rub it out with her, I just wish she wasn't silenced... I'm still on team "if she doesn't die, try again". While I'm good with blowing things off, 😉 , I don't think should be one of them.

Lynch Kam

 

[WildZoo]

Day 3 Keep It in Your Pants Lynch Tally

Kam (12) - DocE, Fern, SAR, genny, nyanko, coop, PBC, Ceke, dds, MJ, nohika, cdo
Ceke (1) - Fireman
genny (1) - Kam

14/29 votes

Lynch deadline...7.25 hours (10pm EDT)

 

[genny]

This is why I'd rather be talking about the supposed silencer. It doesn't make sense to me that Kam would fake being half silenced

Edit: at that point might as well go all the way
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Some performances can just be too over-the-top, if you know what I mean. Maybe she thought full silencing would be met with too much skepticism if she faked that, so this half-assed stuff is an attempt to be more believable. Seems to be working on you.

I would be interested in hearing what night actions Kam is reporting though. Just silencing?

And Why wasn't anyone silenced yesterday?

 

[KCgophervet]

Maybe I am being duped but this lynch still feels too easy. Going to put my money where my feels are and

Lynch sob sob

Also getting pings from cdo, Genny, and PBC and could jump on one of them if people are so inclined



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[Skimble]

I've never heard of lynch avoidance being village. I'm willing to try to rub it out with her, I just wish she wasn't silenced... I'm still on team "if she doesn't die, try again". While I'm good with blowing things off, 😉 , I don't think should be one of them.

Lynch Kam

I've had lynch avoidance as a villager. It's a sketch ability for sure. Does anyone remember a mechanic like this being used before? It feels familiar, but the details are soft, maybe someone can firm them up for me?

 

[Filly Bay]

LORD GRANT THEM THE SERENITY TO ACCEPT THE THINGS THEY CANNOT CHANGE.

So....what, guys...you figure I'm a wolf, who purposefully got myself lynched day 1, who asked for votes and help getting lynched from FB (is everyone just ignoring this?), who can only avoid one lynch but then is easy to kill at the next? In what world are you finding this imaginary wolf with only one lynch avoidance who decides to show it off and use it up on the first ****ing day of the game?

I'm not a wolf, and wasting this whole cycle is stupid, but even if you think I am, how do reconcile trying to lynch me again? Do you think I'm the world's stupidest wolf, flashing my Britney at 2pm on a ****ing Thursday when I have no reason to be drunk and haven't waxed in weeks, (or whatever, this metaphor is a stretch)? I've beaten some of you loungies as the final wolf alive. You should all know I'm not dumb enough to draw an angry lynch mob if I'm vulnerable the next effing day.

 

[PrincessButterCup]

I've had lynch avoidance as a villager. It's a sketch ability for sure. Does anyone remember a mechanic like this being used before? It feels familiar, but the details are soft, maybe someone can firm them up for me?

I've seen roles who needed to be lynched as part of their win condition - lynch, die, auto rez, and new role or ability or such perk. So it is possible it's a village role.

What I've never seen is a 'silenced' person being able to pm.

Sex sex sex

 

[PrincessButterCup]

Who do you want to discuss today, Kam? Give us your reads. (Give us a little more, if you know what I'm saying )

 

[SnowshoeDog143]

who are you feeling up right now fb? you have been relaying messages from kam all day but not posting your own feels on her or anyone else.

 

[Coopah]

@Kam325 I would like to know what your plan was after getting lynched D1. You can't expect us to just walk away from a lynch avoidance. What was your plan? Survive a lynch and we're all just cool with it? You could have given us a heads up, laid some hints down, or otherwise exposed your reasoning beforehand.

 

[Teepster87]

Lynch fern (BBC)

Her original name is already sexual enough I think. She's flown really under the radar so far, and hasn't said much on thread aside from voting thus far.

 

[Doctor-S]

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Getting ready for more rounds and very entertained by this thread.

Aha!!!!!

Finally finding out many of you are seriously naughty nymphomaniacs disguised as SDNers!



Have fun everyone! 🙂

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[DVMDream]

I'm not really buying the silencing either, but we'll see what @DVMDream has to say about it.

And being able to still "talk" to the thread through someone else isn't really feeling like a silencing to me

***Oops, I finished too soon and submitted. This never happens I swear!

I have no damn idea what you're talking about. I haven't even read day 1. Two 12 hour work days and my grandma just coded, so I'm very much occupied. Lynch me, whatever, I don't give a ****. Won't get a wolf but I'm unlikely to catch up on this game anytime soon.

 

[Animal Midwife]

I have no damn idea what you're talking about. I haven't even read day 1. Two 12 hour work days and my grandma just coded, so I'm very much occupied. Lynch me, whatever, I don't give a ****. Won't get a wolf but I'm unlikely to catch up on this game anytime soon.

Were you silenced D1 is what everyone's wondering. I'm so thirsty... for that knowledge.

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Also, sorry to hear about your grandma.
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[dpmd]

Is anyone else beginning to wonder if this game is bad luck for family members of players?

It does make it harder to figure out what is going on when people are distracted by real life. So, so hard.

 

[DVMDream]

Were you silenced D1 is what everyone's wondering. I'm so thirsty... for that knowledge.

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Also, sorry to hear about your grandma.
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No I wasn't just did not have any time to check in. Haven't been silenced at all.

 

[Animal Midwife]

If no one speaks up about being silenced yesterday soon, I'm coming on Kam's lynch.

 

[cdo96]

I've seen roles who needed to be lynched as part of their win condition - lynch, die, auto rez, and new role or ability or such perk. So it is possible it's a village role.

What I've never seen is a 'silenced' person being able to pm.

Sex sex sex

I can see that. Hmph... I've never seen the silenced person be able to PM either, but it is an STL game. So who knows. Her PM defense just isn't rock hard.

 

[WildZoo]

Day 3 Whip It...Whip it Good Lynch Tally

Kam (12) - DocE, Fern, SAR, genny, nyanko, coop, PBC, Ceke, dds, MJ, nohika, cdo
Ceke (1) - Fireman
genny (1) - Kam
fern (1) - teep
sobsob (1) - kcough

16/29 votes

Lynch deadline...4.75 hours (10pm EDT)

 

[Coopah]

If no one speaks up about being silenced yesterday soon, I'm coming on Kam's lynch.

I imagine it's an EON ability. We shouldn't lynch Kam based on her being silenced or not. We should lynch her because she's dirty... like a wolf

 

[Teepster87]

I have no damn idea what you're talking about. I haven't even read day 1. Two 12 hour work days and my grandma just coded, so I'm very much occupied. Lynch me, whatever, I don't give a ****. Won't get a wolf but I'm unlikely to catch up on this game anytime soon.

Kam was trying to see if you got hit with a D1 silencing. Most people are skeptical of her silencing today, and I was curious if you had actually been silenced yesterday. Hence the tag. I hadn't been thinking about lynching you.

 

[Animal Midwife]

I imagine it's an EON ability. We shouldn't lynch Kam based on her being silenced or not. We should lynch her because she's dirty... like a wolf

EON is even/odd night, correct? Let me know if I'm doing this right...

 

[Coopah]

EON is even/odd night, correct? Let me know if I'm doing this right...

Yeah an every other night thing

 

[Animal Midwife]

Yeah an every other night thing

Even if so, since nearly everyone's seduced into lynching Kam, thought we could get some more info on whether this silencing exist.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Lynch Kam

because I didn't get some (more info).

 

[Coopah]

Even if so, since nearly everyone's seduced into lynching Kam, though we could get some more info on whether this silencing exist.

Seems like a silly thing to make up. Even if it's just a distraction, to what end? People won't feel sympathy for her being silenced. There a little glitch in communication but ultimately no change overall.

 

[Filly Bay]

who are you feeling up right now fb? you have been relaying messages from kam all day but not posting your own feels on her or anyone else.

Ive been driving all day and posting kams messages when I stop. Haven't been critically reading the thread. Right now I don't plan on voting for Kam. Will re-evaluate everything after I reach my destination and get food. At a gas station now and about hit the road hard again 😉

Latest update from Kam:

Response to Cop's question about what my plan was and why I didn't hint first:

Seriously, can ONE PERSON acknowledge that I told FB the plan and the reason behind it during the lynch cycle yesterday?

I already answered this question, too. I took matters into my own hands because logic and reason clearly does not control this crew, and just saying "hey I want you guys to vote for me" doesn't guarantee you will. And if people *had* listened and just gone along with it, we would have had a cycle full of no productive discussion....much like this one today.

Anyway, it's no skin off my back personally if you guys want to play the lazy game and waste a lynch on me today. I'm not dying.

It's a dumb choice though, and I already explained why. It makes no logical sense for a wolf with a single lynch avoidance to purposefully and deliberately use it up on the very first day. So either I'm not a wolf, or I'm a wolf you can't kill tonight. Making this a pointless move for you guys.

I voted for Genny, btw.

 

[Haxx]

Well suck me sideways...

Kam having such a thorough response ready right after being lynched means one of two things to me. Either she is what she says she is, and we're all sheeping our way right into this orgy, OR she had a team of wolfies to help her come up with a good alibi while she was leading the lynch count. The one possibility I haven't seen thrown out yet is that she's a wolf that gains a significant power on first lynching, hence explaining why she would want to get lynched on day 1, but then is coming up with every excuse in the world now in order to be able to use said power. That being said, I'd rather waste a day cycle than miss a powerful wolf.

Lynch Kam

 

[Coopah]

Ive been driving all day and posting kams messages when I stop. Haven't been critically reading the thread. Right now I don't plan on voting for Kam. Will re-evaluate everything after I reach my destination and get food. At a gas station now and about hit the road hard again 😉

Latest update from Kam:

Ok so you're not giving us any information beyond you're not a wolf. I don't know why a wolf would waste a lynch avoidance if they only had one, but how do we know how many you have? Why would a villager get multiple lynch avoidances anyway? Those are usually reserved for baddies are they not? Granted this is an STL game and I can totally see him putting something like that in but you're claiming to be unlynchable? Why would a villager ever be unlynchable?

Edit: gigity

 

[SARdoghandler]

Can't quote Kam's message because quote, so going missionary style old fashioned with normal quotation marks and italics I guess.

"Seriously, can ONE PERSON acknowledge that I told FB the plan and the reason behind it during the lynch cycle yesterday?"

Okay, acknowledged. That doesn't make you less wolfy. In a game with PMing, I would not be shocked at all if a smart woof used a villager to help cover their butt.

I need to go back and look, but does anyone know if Kam can PM with anyone else? Cause if so it would come across as much more village if she had told two people - would be my instinct if I had to defend via PM to guard against one maybe being a wolf.

"I already answered this question, too. I took matters into my own hands because logic and reason clearly does not control this crew, and just saying "hey I want you guys to vote for me" doesn't guarantee you will. And if people *had* listened and just gone along with it, we would have had a cycle full of no productive discussion....much like this one today."

But... You had to know that not dying would cause some serious sideyeing. So you had to know you'd be lynched again. So this whole argument just feels meh.

"I'm not dying.It's a dumb choice though, and I already explained why. It makes no logical sense for a wolf with a single lynch avoidance to purposefully and deliberately use it up on the very first day. So either I'm not a wolf, or I'm a wolf you can't kill tonight."

This may be my noobness, but the only time I've seen multiple lynch avoidances is when it is an alpha wolf. So this argument doesn't exactly clear you in my books, and just makes me more comfortable in my vote. If you die, we cracked the egg. If you don't, we can speculate on if we've found an alpha. I would still call that a somewhat productive day.

 

[Filly Bay]

Post please:

I get being skeptical or not blindly trusting me, or whatever. That's all to be expected. But what's frustrating about this lynch is that people keep accusing me of moves that make no sense, have no logical motivation behind them, or would be obviously detrimental to my game.

You think I'm faking half a silence? Okay, why would that make any sense? What benefit would I gain? Doesn't it hurt me to be limited in how often I can defend?

You think I'm a wolf with a one-time avoidance who asked another player to vote for her and convince other people to do the same on day one? Again, how does this make sense? What benefit would I gain? Why sacrifice myself and my avoidance for no reason?

I don't make stupid pointless crippling moves on day 1 as a wolf with no reason. You guys should know this about me, come on.

Considering the alternative explanations actually *do* match up with logical motivations, this is just a lazy, wasteful lynch.

 

[Filly Bay]

Oh and will you tell them I just liked Haxx's post because even though his theory doesn't happen to be correct at least his reason for voting for me actually makes some ****ing sense. 🙄

Tell Coop she's asking for a role reveal but I have no incentive to blow my load when I'm not actually in any danger of dying. Better close to the chest and useful than fully explained and known to wolves and villagers alike.

You can emphasize again that I explained more to you than I have on the thread but it's not like anyone is paying attention to that anyway.

Kam whispered more sweet nothings in my ear than she has put on the thread and if she's telling the truth it makes sense to keep things hidden from the wolves

 

[WildZoo]

Day 3 Whip It...Whip it Good Lynch Tally

Kam (14) - DocE, Fern, SAR, genny, nyanko, coop, PBC, Ceke, dds, MJ, nohika, cdo, AM, Haxx
Ceke (1) - Fireman
genny (1) - Kam
fern (1) - teep
sobsob (1) - kcough

18/29 votes

Lynch deadline...3.25 hours (10pm EDT)

 

[Trilt]

Mods allowed Kam's lynch vote via PM which is kinda iffy if it's a false silencing.

Did you have any actions performed on you yesterday, Kam? Could be a silencing as a second-day effect from an action, or from voting from/for a particular person, or an EON ability... there are plenty of explanations out there that are possible for why nobody was silenced during the first cycle. You gotta remember this is STL who made the game, he's basically king of roles that aren't just straightforward "silence someone every night" boringness.

@Mad Jack did you look into Kam last night?

I think theorizing that she wasn't aiming to get lynched yesterday is absurd. Kam doesn't ghost as a defense for lynch, she fights tooth and nail just like me. If she were to ghost she definitely doesn't drop a couple likes in and make it obvious she could be around.

But I Brazilian wax poetic. Let's say:

lynch BBC (Ferny)
Contributing nothing, jumped on easy lynch, generally would like to hear something more from her.

 

[Filly Bay]

Mods allowed Kam's lynch vote via PM which is kinda iffy if it's a false silencing.

Did you have any actions performed on you yesterday, Kam? Could be a silencing as a second-day effect from an action, or from voting from/for a particular person, or an EON ability... there are plenty of explanations out there that are possible for why nobody was silenced during the first cycle. You gotta remember this is STL who made the game, he's basically king of roles that aren't just straightforward "silence someone every night" boringness.

@Mad Jack did you look into Kam last night?

I think theorizing that she wasn't aiming to get lynched yesterday is absurd. Kam doesn't ghost as a defense for lynch, she fights tooth and nail just like me. If she were to ghost she definitely doesn't drop a couple likes in and make it obvious she could be around.

But I Brazilian wax poetic. Let's say:

lynch BBC (Ferny)
Contributing nothing, jumped on easy lynch, generally would like to hear something more from her.

Kam says she was blocked too and based on the wording it was from two different people.
(Edituendo)

 

[Trilt]

Kam says she was blocked too and based on the wording it was from two different people.
(Edituendo)

of ****ing course there's multiple blockers.

ham wallet

 

[PrincessButterCup]

I guess I'm willing to do the nasty and

Unlynch Kam

The silencing looks legit, at least, and I'm willing to look elsewhere today. For now

Lynch BBC

To help put more numbers on someone else, and see where that leads us.

 

[StartingoverVet]

lynch bbc

although i am sure other kam bandwagoners are wolfish as well.

Did anyone actually read the instructions from STL. He specifically said don't use role ability or role names to lynch people, and here we are lynching somone based on their role ability. I am not buying this for a minute. Fuzzy handcuff yes. Edible underwear yes. Lynching based on role info, absolutely no.

Picked bbc because she jumped on the lynch so quickly, although I would entertain other sexy suitors.