Serial/Criminal Minds WW - Game Thread

[Animal Midwife]

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How do you feel voting alongside mkg?

Not at satisfied as I'd like to be. Everyone can't be bussing though.

 

[kaydubs]

Day 2: Don't Look Too Long into the Abyss

cubs ()
Stagg (3) - AM, mkg, Bob
samac ()
Mel (1) - vetschoolsplz
mkg (3) - genny, TME, Cray
TME (1) - Visc
Bob (2) - cubs, Stagg
Visc (1) - samac
Cray ()
vetschoolsplz (1) - Mel

12/12

Has yet to vote: [idle]

Vote closes at 10pm, TODAY, 11/14 (~25 MINUTES)

 

[Viscernable]

Cubs being village makes me think you know something I don’t. Fine.

Pardon?

 

[Crayola227]

#### unyeet mkg ###

I have to go make dinner. I can keep checking in but I don't trust myself not to accidentally ride a tie into the deadline.

 

[samac]

I fail to see what's shocking about the post count.

That cray was absent almost the entire first cycle and surpassed you with ease.
You just feel less here than usual. I haven’t been able to move you into my village reads yet which feels wrong because lately I’ve been fairly comfortable with you.

 

[kaydubs]

Day 2: Don't Look Too Long into the Abyss

cubs ()
Stagg (3) - AM, mkg, Bob
samac ()
Mel (1) - vetschoolsplz
mkg (2) - genny, TME
TME (1) - Visc
Bob (2) - cubs, Stagg
Visc (1) - samac
Cray ()
vetschoolsplz (1) - Mel

11/12

In danger of having a warrant out for his arrest: @Stagg737
Has yet to vote: @Crayola227

Vote closes at 10pm, TODAY, 11/14 (~15 MINUTES)

 

[cubsrule4e]

@samac you got an opinion on mkg vs stagg?

 

[cubsrule4e]

#### unyeet mkg ###

I have to go make dinner. I can keep checking in but I don't trust myself not to accidentally ride a tie into the deadline.

Well I guess it matters less now.

 

[samac]

@samac you got an opinion on mkg vs stagg?

I don’t think I’ve ever seen stagg wolf so I’m not super clear there but his alley vote felt sincere. I’d go mkg.

 

[Animal Midwife]

That cray was absent almost the entire first cycle and surpassed you with ease.
You just feel less here than usual. I haven’t been able to move you into my village reads yet which feels wrong because lately I’ve been fairly comfortable with you.

She posted most of the night when I wasn't on. And no, you have not been comfortable with me ever. Literally the last two games we played together you never mentioned anything about me being village (even decided I was definitely in a pack for one) until the mechanics pointed strongly to me being village.

 

[kaydubs]

!!!!! TEN MINUTES !!!!!​

 

[Viscernable]

I

TME was very bad and I felt embarrassed when I went back and to check compatibility and realized TME was middle of my list. Chalk it up to not sticking out. Was under my radar.

I’m having trouble understanding this paragraph, sorry, can you rephrase?

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

yay mel iso
the search function is being weird so I need to do it the old fashioned, ctrl+f way

Spoiler: ISO of mel

about TME:

I’ve read nothing but the opening post and this, and you already sound sketchy af

Alley is continuing to sketch real hard, the salt vote on VSLIMSHADY felt weirdly-timed after the whole zenge thing she was on about.

Samac and VSLIMBIZKIT picking up sketch points

So these were the like actual game posts he had made until this point (below) and other posts were just joking

Feel better about TME

Vote Cray

So this initially jumped out to me as weird, bc mel had mentioned several other people, not cray among them, who he found sus

I need some hedge trimmers

(the above was in response to visc asking why I had sketch points, hedginess is my most common critique lol)

genny - Village enough for me to put her aside for tomorrow

Alley - Wolfy. She’s getting the D1 pass to prove herself because it sounds like she’s been voted out D1 recently.

So in reference to a couple of posts above, he was giving alley a D1 pass which I appreciate. But had still had yet to explain the cray vote

If alley flips wolf I’d change my mind about cray but then that puts samac on my board

and then i felt weird about the logic of this one. cites tin foil and kinda leaves it at that, but I feel like that's a weird thing to do?

Cary’s entrance was very pointed. It was a very “get in, make some posts, drop a vote, get out” whereas I expected her usual stream of consciousness meandering posts. I was hoping she’d come back by now and show more of that.

@Animal Midwife @Zenge142


ETA: you know what? I was going to edit the name typo but I kinda like it.

Then this was the thing that really put a bad taste in my mouth. There was other stuff going on on the thread, mel felt weird about other people who had been here, then votes and stick to a vote for someone who came on and said hey i know im not here but this is why

Because the point was to observe her if she’d come back. If I say I’m watching her before she comes back, it influences her behavior.

but at this point she had literally said she wouldn't be back until after yeet so like...... whyyy continue to vote her when you felt sus for people who were actually on the thread at the time and could interact with you? it feels like a staying out of the wagon and tie fray strategy to me

True town read -no one atm
AM, Visc
TME, cubs, genny
Stagg, cray, mkg
Bob
Samac, VSECRET - I’d vote between these two today.

and then nothing i found that mel said out loud that floated cray from a vote the day before to in the neutral part of the reads list?

S:N feels off and I’m not seeing much independent thought in the few pushes he’s made.

in response to why bob is wolfy

then there's a series of posts tagging people and asking them their various opinions on things, which can be an easy way to look busy

Cubs
Genny, Visc, AM
TME, mkg
Stagg, VLCPLAYER - neutral
Cray
Samac, Bob


Vote Samac

to be fair with this list, there isn't any like crazy amount of movement which gives mel a village point

Cubs, AM, Mkg, TME
Genny, Visc
neutral
Stagg, VSLMIP
Cray + Samac or Bob

and then cray slipped back down as the lists went on. I don't love that there's no like explanations behind these lists (which I know isn't everyone's style just bc its mine) or more listed out loud logic

Unvote Samac
Vote Cray



Cray's logic doesn't track.

She was considering bob and I in a pack, but I've been loud about bob being wolfy, I usually go for the sweep and wouldn't bus unnecessarily.

The whole post about stagg and VSLMIP was just circular logic. Her point about stagg and why he shouldn't be considered wolfy by VSLMIP, could be applied directly to her reason for giving VSLMIP sketch points.

IDK Cray feels different this game. I'm okay with this vote.

Could also go for a bob vote or samac vote, I feel like there is a wolf there.

logic behind today's cray vote
and this logic is actually decent to me, so another village point (not that I agree, but I can see this coming from a villager)
again, could be staying out of the wagon and tie fray

It essentially boils down to "villagers don't care about looking sketchy and will call out other people for seemingly hypocritical reasons"

But chasing down hypocritical reads and possible slip ups is what villagers do and its weird that cray is saying VSLMIP is pinging for doing the village thing.

further explaining the cray post, which i appreciate

Just really quickly want to point out that I started making noise about Dina D1 last game and she immediately started campaigning against me and voting for me, and then flipped wolf.

Take that into consideration as you engage with VSLMIP

but that's not really what I'm doing? I'm sus'in you over your vote of a different player

For the record I'm putting bob in my top 3 NOT for his usual bob-humor-mistranslated sketchiness.
D1, he sat on the Cray vote with me when there was a tie and didn't really make a push or a move anywhere. His initial cray reasoning was meh, and his reads since then have felt like he was sheeping village. The hedge on the "not mel YET" is cringe, like he's literally waiting to see what the overall consensus is on me so he can sheep that too.

Unvote Cray
Vote VSLMIP

I'm feeling the pocketing, but I'm relaxing into it, I like Cray's more recent content. I will hate myself if/when she flips wolf.

I recently liked that VSLMIP put some effort into questioning Stagg, but her D1 play still looks wolfy to me, and she's doing the same thing wolf!dina did when I was pushing her last game. I like my vote here.

Would probably go stagg over mkg if people are going to force another tie.

but then votes me, which is different from what was said with the cray vote, and then says two other people who he didn't mention as possible other votes in the cray vote?

so my vote on mel boils down to
-really not liking the vote on cray yesterday
-not being able to follow how people move on the reads list very well, and then voting posts that contradict eachother

 

[BobLoblaw78]

Who is samac compatible with?

Why?

What made you choose Stagg?

Samac seemed compatible with a lot of people the last time I looked. Last night or this morning. Any of the low posters. I see her bouncing around as a possible way for a wolf to say they pressured a wolf when they flip wolf. But all the while it was never real pressure bc it was fleeting. One of the things that made me feel worse about her.

Then there was the end of the day vote. TWTBW?

Then she was trying to get village cred if alley flipped said two things to me. First it was strange to get credit for someone you didn’t end up voting. Second, a wolf would know alley was village so maybe she was villlager if she didn’t know this about alley. Finally, my mind stretched to its breaking point of considering possibilities- she could be lone wolf or 3p. I know it is frowned upon to go there. But it would explain trying to get undeserved village cred and why she wouldn’t truly know

 

[samac]

She posted most of the night when I wasn't on. And no, you have not been comfortable with me ever. Literally the last two games we played together you never mentioned anything about me being village (even decided I was definitely in a pack for one) until the mechanics pointed strongly to me being village.

RVB I was very very wrong, that was 3 games ago.
I died night one last game.

 

[Stagg737]

Welp, I'm the seer, nice job ya'll.

 

[samac]

Samac seemed compatible with a lot of people the last time I looked. Last night or this morning. Any of the low posters. I see her bouncing around as a possible way for a wolf to say they pressured a wolf when they flip wolf. But all the while it was never real pressure bc it was fleeting. One of the things that made me feel worse about her.

Then there was the end of the day vote. TWTBW?

Then she was trying to get village cred if alley flipped said two things to me. First it was strange to get credit for someone you didn’t end up voting. Second, a wolf would know alley was village so maybe she was villlager if she didn’t know this about alley. Finally, my mind stretched to its breaking point of considering possibilities- she could be lone wolf or 3p. I know it is frowned upon to go there. But it would explain trying to get undeserved village cred and why she wouldn’t truly know

Bouncing around?
I was in a 4 way tie, self prezed and landed back on my vote. Thus far I have voted 2 people this cycle.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Samac seemed compatible with a lot of people the last time I looked. Last night or this morning. Any of the low posters. I see her bouncing around as a possible way for a wolf to say they pressured a wolf when they flip wolf. But all the while it was never real pressure bc it was fleeting. One of the things that made me feel worse about her.

Then there was the end of the day vote. TWTBW?

Then she was trying to get village cred if alley flipped said two things to me. First it was strange to get credit for someone you didn’t end up voting. Second, a wolf would know alley was village so maybe she was villlager if she didn’t know this about alley. Finally, my mind stretched to its breaking point of considering possibilities- she could be lone wolf or 3p. I know it is frowned upon to go there. But it would explain trying to get undeserved village cred and why she wouldn’t truly know

Who are the lowposters?

 

[samac]

Welp, I'm the seer, nice job ya'll.

Who did you seer last night?

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

Who did you seer last night?

i would guess he seer'd you because you got the powder thing? Maybe he's gideon?
i can't* remember if hes said anything for/against you today

*fixed spelling mistake

 

[Animal Midwife]

RVB I was very very wrong, that was 3 games ago.
I died night one last game.

I'm not talking about RVB even if it still triggers me. I'm talking about MHA.


And I know you died N1, but you purportedly told me you'd work with me "regardless of my affiliation".

 

[samac]

I’ve also been trying to decide if village was all vanilla so that’s an interesting turn of events.

 

[Stagg737]

Who did you seer last night?

No one, I didn't submit an action because I was showering off vomit.

 

[TelemarketingEnigma]

i would guess he seer'd you because you got the powder thing? Maybe he's gideon?
i can't* remember if hes said anything for/against you today

*fixed spelling mistake

iocaine powder would be an... odd ... choice for seering

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

iocaine powder would be an... odd ... choice for seering

to be honest i do not remember what it is, its been so long since ive watched the show lol
it's a moot point, he said he didn't seer anyone

 

[samac]

I'm not talking about RVB even if it still triggers me. I'm talking about MHA.


And I know you died N1, but you purportedly told me you'd work with me "regardless of my affiliation".

Yes, that was what I was going to tell you day 2. Didn’t matter though. I wasn’t wolf reading you, but if you were wolf I was going to back you to make you love PMs.

 

[kaydubs]

I’ll just be here slow blinking at the discussion with less than 4 minutes until close

 

[Animal Midwife]

No one, I didn't submit an action because I was showering off vomit.

Who were you going to target?

 

[BobLoblaw78]

Pardon?

Cubs has bad look for 4 way tie comment. For saying it was joke when clearly not. And a third reason I would have to look back to remember. Then him saying I always vote early when I’ve been notorious for voting late seems like blatant lie/misinformation.

So if Mel has Cubs as number one villager, he must know something. I’d leave it at that. Or he is packmate.

 

[samac]

i would guess he seer'd you because you got the powder thing? Maybe he's gideon?
i can't* remember if hes said anything for/against you today

*fixed spelling mistake

I honestly like the tinfoil of the main characters being the bad guys at this point.

 

[Stagg737]

Who were you going to target?

Mel

 

[samac]

I’m not being the one to do the last minute jump to make a tie.
No ma’am.

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

I honestly like the tinfoil of the main characters being the bad guys at this point.

i have a comment on this but its not pertinent
placeholder/reminder

 

[Stagg737]

Mel is also the person I was waiting to see an answer from earlier, but he didn't answer it, so still not sure where I put him other than he seems compatible with several people.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Mel

I think you should be self-resolving so I'll give you a cycle.

Unyeet Stagg
Yeet mkg

 

[Stagg737]

I think you should be self-resolving so I'll give you a cycle.

Unyeet Stagg
Yeet mkg

Interesting...

 

[kaydubs]

VOTE CLOSED​

 

[TelemarketingEnigma]

I’m not being the one to do the last minute jump to make a tie.
No ma’am.

this one's on the stagg voters. and maybe cray. If he's truly village/seer they get big frowny faces from me

 

[Animal Midwife]

I’m not being the one to do the last minute jump to make a tie.
No ma’am.

Very dank of you.

 

[Stagg737]

Unvote bob
vote mkg

 

[samac]

No one, I didn't submit an action because I was showering off vomit.

Now that we’re done with the the vote close can we just take a moment to appreciate that if you’re being truthful you remain the seer that never seers.

 

[Stagg737]

And now I feel like an idiot for realizing I never self-prezzed

 

[Stagg737]

Now that we’re done with the the vote close can we just take a moment to appreciate that if you’re being truthful you remain the seer that never seers.

I've gotta keep my name in the running for some awward....

 

[Animal Midwife]

Interesting...

Yeah? Why is it interesting?

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

And now I feel like an idiot for realizing I never self-prezzed

I'm not sure your vote ended up making it but after AM's switch it doesn't matter, right??

 

[TelemarketingEnigma]

I think you should be self-resolving so I'll give you a cycle.

Unyeet Stagg
Yeet mkg

i missed this happen, interesting

i don't recall if i've seen an AM waffle like this

 

[kaydubs]

*FINAL* Day 2: Don't Look Too Long into the Abyss

cubs ()
Stagg (2) - mkg, Bob
samac ()
Mel (1) - vetschoolsplz
mkg (3) - genny, TME, AM
TME (1) - Visc
Bob (2) - cubs, Stagg
Visc (1) - samac
Cray ()
vetschoolsplz (1) - Mel

11/12

Has yet to vote: @Crayola227

Vote closed at 10pm, TODAY, 11/14

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

i missed this happen, interesting

i don't recall if i've seen an AM waffle like this

I mean in the case of a claim it's a special circumstance. I feel like in general you should give someone who claims a role a cycle to prove it

 

[Stagg737]

Now that we’re done with the the vote close can we just take a moment to appreciate that if you’re being truthful you remain the seer that never seers.

I'll also note that this was after brushing my teeth for 5 minutes and repeatedly using mouthwash in between. This weekend will be forever memorable

 

[samac]

i missed this happen, interesting

i don't recall if i've seen an AM waffle like this

It makes sense. I expected someone to move with that reveal, but I’m also unsure.

@mkg323 if you’re around and village and have anything helpful now is the time.