Serial/Criminal Minds WW - Game Thread

[Viscernable]

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Missed this post, but serial killer is the whole enchilada. It's a 3p who can only win by being the last player alive.

We had a serial killer in noob game who won by killing 5 people

 

[samac]

I had quoted this bc it didn't seem correct, but stagg went ahead and confirmed it.

Been there, done that....but that is a long shower

Deadly, odorless powder from Australia

Who started this tinfoil? I can't find it and want to finish my thought on it.



Weird to blame stagg voters when the vote didn’t go through on stagg and MKG was on the board anyway. This very well could’ve happened without the stagg wagon. And this statement sounds as if you already know that MKG is village before the reveal...

Not seering and not selfprezzing. So many thoughts. Are you really seer? Are you a seer and just disinterested villager (with vomit on them)? (I can't see wolf not selfprezzing) Finally, as a wolf where were your options for selfprezzing that you wouldn't have went on the counterwagon? More of a question to myself- I need to look once I finish this

I unfortunately found out about the reveal too late, but would have jumped off had I seen it in time.

FYI- I was trying to post on phone and keep formatting correct (if you delete one space too much it removes the person that the quote is from). And it kept giving me the posts out of order (the most recent one or two, but not the 10 in between)



This comment reads much differently after seeing how genny flipped. She seemed to be comfortable position. This sounds like her laying ground work for not role revealing when descriptions have been very different for villagers this game

I like this from visc and she has had many like this. If you want specifics for visc, this is one. It is very village perspective. Village wouldn’t mind being hypocritical but wolves would try to avoid it (you would at least think they would)

Good writeup, esp with the personal touches! I can appreciate them more now that I am not scouring them for clues!

The person that said this has never seen my cat with its prey! (or gennys with a giraffe)

100-1,200 TID. I am shocked to hear how high the cat dose is! I only start that low bc patients hate the fog that comes with it and quit it.

Wouldn’t that make people more likely to believe your claim this time around? Do you fake claim often?

Can I ask why she didn't kill you? Or if you don't want to answer, at least be working through that on your own if it helps with wolf reads, their skills, etc

I don’t have any ability that would have prevented her from killing me.

I think TME first proposed the theory.

 

[BobLoblaw78]

This game is biased against people who go to bed early!!! I have a much easier time being on during the day than I do at my bedtime. It makes me tired when I stay up until close and after trying to reply to posts.

 

[Stagg737]

i would guess he seer'd you because you got the powder thing? Maybe he's gideon?

It bothers me a bit that this was dropped before Genny flipped. I haven't decided if this is really shady, but want to go back and investigate it...

Why would that lead to no results if you're still here?

Plot summary of my night results: I was running a test to get results, someone snuck up and tried to strangle me (I think this is relevant and can be confirmed at some point), there was an explosion in the lab, when I woke up I was alive but the machine blew up and I didn't get results.

I’ve yeeted you for a similar story and was wrong.
Interesting.

You didn't see this coming? Lol. I'm shocked that I'm still actually alive though, thanks for whoever did whatever they did last night, other than the strangler, but maybe they were just being kinky...

So are you worried that it is happening again? Or are you worried that he is recycling that story from prior experience? (what are the odds of it happening again versus the other scenario happening?)

This is becoming a pattern for me, third time in 3 games it's happened. I better be nominated for the 'best scapegoat' award or something like that after this. Also, I don't recall ever fake-claiming an ability as a wolf. I probably have done it, but generally avoid it because of how easily it can backfire.

 

[Stagg737]

It bothers me a bit that this was dropped before Genny flipped. I haven't decided if this is really shady, but want to go back and investigate it...

After further investigation I've found that Pleasey is dead and shadiness can be disregarded. Case closed!

 

[Animal Midwife]

We had a serial killer in noob game who won by killing 5 people

That's more a rare exception to the rule than the usual. I think it was simplified so a first timer could have a real chance at winning.

 

[BobLoblaw78]

Thoughts on cubs:

Oh right, I forgot how superior you are in playing the game that you can dictate what constitutes good vs bad play. You voted alley off, and now youre trying me. Thats 0 for 2. Not such great play on your part either.

And ill go ahead and put you back on the board since youre still at the top of my list. Thats how its supposed to work, right?

vote samac

Started out on samac. What are your current thoughts on her? Or do you still have her as POE? What is your POE?

Im at about 3am now, Cray has devoted too much time to the tie discussion, hopefully she gets to the explanation posts soon.

That is what she does. I appreciate the content. I understand getting tired of addressing the same problem. But this sounds dismissive of points (i assume) she is trying to make

Aside from the one read list and then an ISO post of mkg it doesnt feel like he's pushing like normal. He says mkg TME and pleasy are just "in the background" for him, but then didnt address or try to push any of them directly. Then almost immediately came out with a village read on mkg after being pressed by AM, felt like he kind of thought he needed to take a stance immediately on the issue or risk AM coming after him. And he knows once AM is on him he's in trouble 😆

First off, when I say in the background it means- people that don't stick out during the game. People that joke, post a lot, make logic to me or have interactions tend to stick out more as memorable.

Secondly, I don't normally see myself as a pusher. I make jokes and bad reads/votes. I wish I was better at smoking out wolves and want to get there, but I really think the pushers is a different group of people. If you guys see me as a pusher then disregard. It just pings me when someone describes me a way that I think isn't true. It rings false.

I think boiling down my content to one list and one iso is not based on reality. I tried working through some mechanics, analyzing writeups and more. I have also responded to 10+ posts for my replies. Pings a bit to minimize if you are village bc you want to base reads off of facts, not skew it to make it fit.

It irks me that (MKG) and bob were 2 of the last 3 that hadnt voted... and usually Bob is throwing them out early on.

I gave reasons why I was busy. I hadn't been posting but just not voting. It was pretty obvious I was not around

A seer who somehow didnt think to self-prez? Seems a little...irresponsible? 🤔

This is a good post but one of the few of the recent ones

You just told me you never vote early.

I'm still waiting on this quote and found this statement as false.

Also the 4 way carnage you lobbied for. Then saying it was all just a joke. That is the reasons I don't feel great about you. I wish I knew what Mel saw that has you as top village read.

 

[BobLoblaw78]

TME thoughts:

but are you a 3P serial killer tho

surely coincidence but noted. If that is also the role you were given, then it would be more at the front of your thoughts.

Also, had tinfoil about independent killers. If this ends up being true, kudos. But it does make me hesitate and wonder if you were an independent serial killer.

Both of these get into deep tinfoil. So I will only note them here and revisit if this turns out to be true.

Otherwise, Was early low poster. Pushed genny early which turned out to be right. But let it go somewhat. Started off poorly based on me not following your thoughts or agreeing. Most recent points have been much better and seemingly hunting so I do feel better than others in my POE.

 

[BobLoblaw78]

yeet cubs

 

[samac]

L

yeet cubs

i would like cubs to come back but if my suspicion is right I’m feeling better about him.

 

[Crayola227]

Not caught up since 6:30 pm last night when I moved my vote, at 8 pm I checked in and saw the role claim and flip and have skimmed to see other flips but haven't really read the thread.

I have stuffs I'm doing today but will intermittently work on catching up and responding.

Sigh, if Stagg had moved to vote with me on mkg when I was the tiemaker, the reveal probably could have been avoided.

How many wolves do we suspect for a game this size? A small enough pack might not have had someone on to remind Stagg to self preserve vote.

So it's hard for me to see the brain fart as AI for village.

 

[Crayola227]

Well I guess it matters less now.

I'm really disappointed how the yeet went down. I try hard to camp the thread at deadline and Cessna is pretty understanding, but ppl also have to understand deadline is 7 pm Fantasyland time. That's right smack in the middle of the early evening when stuff is going on.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Not caught up since 6:30 pm last night when I moved my vote, at 8 pm I checked in and saw the role claim and flip and have skimmed to see other flips but haven't really read the thread.

I have stuffs I'm doing today but will intermittently work on catching up and responding.

Sigh, if Stagg had moved to vote with me on mkg when I was the tiemaker, the reveal probably could have been avoided.

How many wolves do we suspect for a game this size? A small enough pack might not have had someone on to remind Stagg to self preserve vote.

So it's hard for me to see the brain fart as AI for village.

Definitely no more than three. I could see two assuming the normal rules for sk versus inclusive 3p vig.

 

[Crayola227]

yay mel iso
the search function is being weird so I need to do it the old fashioned, ctrl+f way

Spoiler: ISO of mel

about TME:


So these were the like actual game posts he had made until this point (below) and other posts were just joking

So this initially jumped out to me as weird, bc mel had mentioned several other people, not cray among them, who he found sus

(the above was in response to visc asking why I had sketch points, hedginess is my most common critique lol)

So in reference to a couple of posts above, he was giving alley a D1 pass which I appreciate. But had still had yet to explain the cray vote

and then i felt weird about the logic of this one. cites tin foil and kinda leaves it at that, but I feel like that's a weird thing to do?

Then this was the thing that really put a bad taste in my mouth. There was other stuff going on on the thread, mel felt weird about other people who had been here, then votes and stick to a vote for someone who came on and said hey i know im not here but this is why

but at this point she had literally said she wouldn't be back until after yeet so like...... whyyy continue to vote her when you felt sus for people who were actually on the thread at the time and could interact with you? it feels like a staying out of the wagon and tie fray strategy to me


and then nothing i found that mel said out loud that floated cray from a vote the day before to in the neutral part of the reads list?

in response to why bob is wolfy

then there's a series of posts tagging people and asking them their various opinions on things, which can be an easy way to look busy


to be fair with this list, there isn't any like crazy amount of movement which gives mel a village point


and then cray slipped back down as the lists went on. I don't love that there's no like explanations behind these lists (which I know isn't everyone's style just bc its mine) or more listed out loud logic


logic behind today's cray vote
and this logic is actually decent to me, so another village point (not that I agree, but I can see this coming from a villager)
again, could be staying out of the wagon and tie fray

further explaining the cray post, which i appreciate

but that's not really what I'm doing? I'm sus'in you over your vote of a different player



but then votes me, which is different from what was said with the cray vote, and then says two other people who he didn't mention as possible other votes in the cray vote?

so my vote on mel boils down to
-really not liking the vote on cray yesterday
-not being able to follow how people move on the reads list very well, and then voting posts that contradict eachother

Was just gonna say this looks good for Please, then remembered Please flipped village.

Do we really buy Mel is village and being set up? Or is he playing at TWTBW WIFOM?

 

[Animal Midwife]

Was just gonna say this looks good for Please, then remembered Please flipped village.

Do we really buy Mel is village and being set up? Or is he playing at TWTBW WIFOM?

I'm waiting on a response from him.

 

[Melchizedek]

How do you know please was the wolf kill?

It’s a tin-foil theory, my tin-foil theories are always for my own amusement, don’t make assumptions and put it in a light as if I’m actually taking it into consideration.

At work and will be on later, but wanted to share that someone tried to kill me last night. Didn't get results because of it (shocking, I know).

Minefield?

 

[Melchizedek]

plausible but...

...this isn't making me feel better about you😛

Good for you?

 

[Animal Midwife]

It’s a tin-foil theory, my tin-foil theories are always for my own amusement, don’t make assumptions and put it in a light as if I’m actually taking it into consideration.

I don't understand this response in that context. The tinfoil was "I'm being framed by wolves." Which part shouldn't be taken into consideration?

 

[Viscernable]

Spoiler: D1 Vote tracker

TME (1) - AM
Bob (1) - samac
VSLIMPBIZKIT (1) - Alley
Alley (1) - Cray
Samac (1) - Cubs
Bob(0) -
Alley (2) - Cray, Samac
Mkg (1) - Vis
VSLIMPBIZKIT (0) -
Zenge (1) - Alley
Cray (1) - Bob
Mkg (0) -
Samac (2) - Cubs, Vis
Cray (2) - Bob, Mel
Samac (1) - Cubs
Genny (1) - Mkg
TME (2) - AM, Vis
Samac (2) - Cubs, genny
Mkg (1) - TME
Alley (1) - Cray
[8:35] Mel (1) - samac
[8:39] Mel (2) - samac, zenge
[9:03] VSLIMPBIZKIT (1) - Stagg
[9:18] Zenge (0) -
AM (1) - Alley
[9:56] Mel (1) - Zenge
Cray (3) - Bob, Mel, Samac
[9:56] VSLIMPBIZKIT (0) -
Alley (2) - Cray, Stagg
[9:58] Cray (2) - Bob, Mel
Alley (3) - Cray, Stagg, Samac

some interesting points:
Mel was that last wagon to even make it on the board, very late in the cycle. about 10 minutes later Mkg started talking about yeeting AM (could be coincidence, could be intentional stoking of vote movement).
Never in any wagon: myself, mkg
never voted: VSLIMPBIZKIT

TME (1) - AM
Bob (1) - samac
VSLIMPBIZKIT (1) - Alley
Alley (1) - Cray
Samac (1) - Cubs
Bob(0) -
Alley (2) - Cray, Samac
Mkg (1) - Vis
VSLIMPBIZKIT (0) -
Zenge (1) - Alley
Cray (1) - Bob
Mkg (0) -
Samac (2) - Cubs, Vis
Cray (2) - Bob, Mel
Samac (1) - Cubs
Genny (1) - Mkg
TME (2) - AM, Vis
Samac (2) - Cubs, genny
Mkg (1) - TME
Alley (1) - Cray
[8:35] Mel (1) - samac
[8:39] Mel (2) - samac, zenge
[9:03] VSLIMPBIZKIT (1) - Stagg
[9:18] Zenge (0) -
AM (1) - Alley
[9:56] Mel (1) - Zenge
Cray (3) - Bob, Mel, Samac
[9:56] VSLIMPBIZKIT (0) -
Alley (2) - Cray, Stagg
[9:58] Cray (2) - Bob, Mel
Alley (3) - Cray, Stagg, Samac

 

[Viscernable]

Anyone have a D2 tracker pretty please?

 

[cubsrule4e]

likely female, and someone who would try to insert themselves into the investigation."

Who does this sound like in general?

 

[Animal Midwife]

Anyone have a D2 tracker pretty please?

I'd have to work on one after class.

 

[cubsrule4e]

I feel good about feeling good about VSLIMPBIZKIT. I do not feel good anymore about my genny reading skills. I am starting to think my tinfoil about entirely independent killers is very possible.

Spoiler: ALL 3P????????

 

[cubsrule4e]

Day 3: Anyone who believes what a cat tells him deserves what he gets

None of you are feeling very murderous. Slow day? Can't move because a kitty is sleeping on your lap?

???/9

Has yet to vote: ALL OF YOU
Police hot on their tail: 🤔

Vote closes at 10pm EST, TOMORROW, 11/16 (a long time but pls entertain my need for blood)

I cant be thinking about murder while Im inside someone eyeball.

 

[cubsrule4e]

I said both of these things in my original tinfoils at the very start of the game. I think you repeated the independent killers ideas later too. If nothing else, I'm good at reading the mods minds?

First villager code and now angleshooting! 😱😱😱

 

[cubsrule4e]

Why is Vis empty?

The kids were distracting him.

Interesting though how I was a neutral read and now at the bottom because I voted him.

 

[cubsrule4e]

Weird to blame stagg voters when the vote didn’t go through on stagg and MKG was on the board anyway. This very well could’ve happened without the stagg wagon. And this statement sounds as if you already know that MKG is village before the reveal...

You seemed to have had a pretty good idea she was village also before the reveal, and very quickly came to that after being called out for having her "just in the background" with no real position on her a page or two earlier.

 

[cubsrule4e]

just disinterested villager (with vomit on them)?

Now there's the joke lessons Ive been paying for!

 

[cubsrule4e]

This game is biased against people who go to bed early!!! I have a much easier time being on during the day than I do at my bedtime. It makes me tired when I stay up until close and after trying to reply to posts.

Need to move to fantasyland Bob. Can yall imagine a 3am Bob/Cray dramatic monologue?

 

[kaydubs]

Day 3: Anyone who believes what a cat tells him deserves what he gets

TME (1) - mel
cubs (1) - Bob

2/9

Has yet to vote: (almost) ALL OF YOU
Police hot on their tail: 🤔

Vote closes at 10pm EST, TOMORROW, 11/16 (a long time but pls entertain my need for blood) (~28 hours)

 

[cubsrule4e]

Started out on samac. What are your current thoughts on her? Or do you still have her as POE? What is your POE?

I was kind of forced to look in other directions as far as a vote goes due simply to thread dialogue. I hadnt yet moved my position. Today I probably have her a tick more village side but shes moved to neutral at best. TME is intriguing, I dont know why she'd bring up specific tinfoils about certain players being wolves/3P if she was one herself and knew that was the case, so Im inclined to lean her village if we see more flips of the same.

Still not feeling great about you, everyone seems to have cray very village but Ive got her as low grade potential wolf back of my mind paranoia. I think it was Mel who said something about her posting being off and Im getting the same vibe. It seems shes much more point-to-point, interaction-oriented than free flowing on thread like when she blows up at samac or something like that. Very controlled and cool headed. Stagg I still have to village read at this point even thought his actions, results, and on thread mishaps all scream "thats just weird."

I must admit I didnt see the @genny thing coming at all. Maybe it was all the gabapentin I infused her with last night that made her lose her mind? (joke: reference documented page 21 or 22)

 

[cubsrule4e]

Secondly, I don't normally see myself as a pusher. I make jokes and bad reads/votes. I wish I was better at smoking out wolves and want to get there, but I really think the pushers is a different group of people. If you guys see me as a pusher then disregard. It just pings me when someone describes me a way that I think isn't true. It rings false.

Just because YOU see yourself that way doesnt mean others do. I see myself exactly the same, but catch sus for it every game and here you are voting me for such as well.

 

[Stagg737]

Who said something about main characters being bad guys? Bc this proved out with genny

This comment reads much differently after seeing how genny flipped. She seemed to be comfortable position. This sounds like her laying ground work for not role revealing when descriptions have been very different for villagers this game

I do think there's significant merit to solid characters being scum, but Genny's point that scum may be given cover roles should still be considered as it's just a basic concept of WW in general.

samac claimed to smell iocaine powder, which may or may not have been associated with genny

I would assume it was Genny at this point given the current info.

I got a result that I was investigating and that I didn’t notice the killer near me and that building alarms went off so he retreated. I could then smell iocaine powder.
I wonder if mkg blocked a wolf or genny and the alarm was the block. She wouldn’t have realized it was important because there was still a kill.
Anyway, guess it doesn’t matter much.

This is interesting to me because my results were somewhat similar. Sounds like MKG's blocks were unsuccessful, but you and I were both saved d/t some kind of electrical/structural issue. I'm wondering if the action may have been protection instead of a block. Also, even if mkg blocked Genny, that doesn't explain why the attempt on me didn't go through.

I mean I don’t think a villager blocked stagg, assuming he’s telling the truth

I'm starting to wonder if it wasn't a block at all and that it was either protection or cancel that prevents any actions to or from a player. Not sure how helpful this tunnel would be at this point, but so far confirmed info:

N1: Failed NK on Samac by Genny, Zenge successfully kills (by wolves?)
N2: Failed NK on Stagg by ?????, V-Pizzle killed by ?????

So far we've got 4 attempted NKs that are known and 2 which were successful. Not sure about the context of Genny's death, was that part of night actions too?

 

[Stagg737]

Minefield?

Wat?

 

[Crayola227]

Yes, that was what I was going to tell you day 2. Didn’t matter though. I wasn’t wolf reading you, but if you were wolf I was going to back you to make you love PMs.

Wait, do I have this right? You were village, but you were willing to collude with a wolf just to get them to PM with you?

 

[BobLoblaw78]

This was Saturday at 7am. Essentially catch up from Friday night.

That is me feeling good about MKG and bad about you. Way earlier than what it feels like you were implying.

MKG seemed to be different this game. In a good way. Making more sense.

Cubs was seeming as village as ever. And I know there is reasons, but I got really bad pings from 4 way death push. Sounded like a….(!) serial killer. Lol

Yesterday was busy day so it forced me to have two rushed reads separated by long periods which makes it difficult to keep everything together. Then catching up on close past my bedtime is never a good idea. I will likely have to go back through today and revisit everything.

more on Saturday

Cubs seemed village with really bad 4 way tie event.
I agree. This sounds like my kids trying to brush off something they truly meant as a joke.

Again. Cubs sounded village until 4 way tie. This type of defense is the second thing that doesn’t sound right

This is my first list from later on Saturday. This is just confirming most of the reads I already stated compiled on the list.

You were above cray and stagg who have both moved up the last several days

Visc-seems to be hunting. And maybe some tests, just guessing
MKG- sounds most village. Just would like more content to feel even better. Not sure why ppl seem to have lower
Genny- seems like village Genny
Mel- hard to read but seems to be hunting and testing as well. Would be higher but too dang wolfy. Will inch his way down if it doesn’t get better
Pleasy and TME- neither hasn’t stuck out to me. Probably more bc I can’t ever keep all players in my head. Maybe they should be lower bc flying under radar. At least mine
AM- diff read but nothing stands out that I look for as wolfAM
Samac- up and down. Don’t know what to think. All over the place. Throw in last day vote and maybe lower
Cubs- almost voted him out the gate D2. But now I’m wavering bc something feels wrong if he is wolfing.
Cray- just landed. And hasn’t really done anything to climb out of POE and lurkers yet. Will have to update this
Stagg- I guess this is norm for stagg? But I vowed to push these until trend has reversed. Seems to be comfortable with level of lurking.

This is even later Saturday where you say I had no reads on her then suddenly change later. That is just blatantly false if you read my above posts which were all much earlier. But even in this one I state she is giving me warm village feeling

PS- in the background means someone who doesn’t stick out personality-wise

Not a lot of posts but makes great sense and puts it into words that really struck me as village. It was feels as I have went through. MKG has always been in the background for me (kinda like TME and pleasy this time). Sticking out as logical this game gives me warm village feeling.

I will try to iso

The kids were distracting him.

Interesting though how I was a neutral read and now at the bottom because I voted him.

You were not a neutral read. See above. I usually give you slack bc of your great jokes. You have obviously had a great, great teacher!!!

You seemed to have had a pretty good idea she was village also before the reveal, and very quickly came to that after being called out for having her "just in the background" with no real position on her a page or two earlier.

I had been village reading her for awhile. I didn’t quickly come to that after being called out. See the above post series. They are in chronological order from Saturday 7am to Saturday evening.


Your statements continue to not reflect reality which is troubling.

 

[BobLoblaw78]

Need to move to fantasyland Bob. Can yall imagine a 3am Bob/Cray dramatic monologue?

I think I would need to move east. I’m a very early riser like most young ‘uns. Lol

 

[Melchizedek]

I don't understand this response in that context. The tinfoil was "I'm being framed by wolves." Which part shouldn't be taken into consideration?

Any of it. It’s a tin-foil theory and my tin-foul theories are never part of my game analysis, more for a “it’s be crazy if this thing I’m paranoid about is true”

Why are you acting like this is a new concept? Ask better questions that are actually gamesolving

 

[BobLoblaw78]

I was kind of forced to look in other directions as far as a vote goes due simply to thread dialogue. I hadnt yet moved my position. Today I probably have her a tick more village side but shes moved to neutral at best. TME is intriguing, I dont know why she'd bring up specific tinfoils about certain players being wolves/3P if she was one herself and knew that was the case, so Im inclined to lean her village if we see more flips of the same.

Still not feeling great about you, everyone seems to have cray very village but Ive got her as low grade potential wolf back of my mind paranoia. I think it was Mel who said something about her posting being off and Im getting the same vibe. It seems shes much more point-to-point, interaction-oriented than free flowing on thread like when she blows up at samac or something like that. Very controlled and cool headed. Stagg I still have to village read at this point even thought his actions, results, and on thread mishaps all scream "thats just weird."

I must admit I didnt see the @genny thing coming at all. Maybe it was all the gabapentin I infused her with last night that made her lose her mind? (joke: reference documented page 21 or 22)

Good point about not bringing up 3p if she was one. She may have been trying to contribute and wasn’t thinking a tinfoil like that would give away subconscious knowledge she had (regarding her being 3p)

 

[BobLoblaw78]

I was kind of forced to look in other directions as far as a vote goes due simply to thread dialogue. I hadnt yet moved my position. Today I probably have her a tick more village side but shes moved to neutral at best. TME is intriguing, I dont know why she'd bring up specific tinfoils about certain players being wolves/3P if she was one herself and knew that was the case, so Im inclined to lean her village if we see more flips of the same.

Still not feeling great about you, everyone seems to have cray very village but Ive got her as low grade potential wolf back of my mind paranoia. I think it was Mel who said something about her posting being off and Im getting the same vibe. It seems shes much more point-to-point, interaction-oriented than free flowing on thread like when she blows up at samac or something like that. Very controlled and cool headed. Stagg I still have to village read at this point even thought his actions, results, and on thread mishaps all scream "thats just weird."

I must admit I didnt see the @genny thing coming at all. Maybe it was all the gabapentin I infused her with last night that made her lose her mind? (joke: reference documented page 21 or 22)

I agree about stagg and Genny analysis.

 

[Crayola227]

this one's on the stagg voters. and maybe cray. If he's truly village/seer they get big frowny faces from me

I don't see how it's on me. I kept saying I wasn't really feeling the Stagg vote and I tried for some time to get people to vote so I wouldn't be on a tie and he wouldn't be in the lead. And he made a mistake necessitating a reveal as well.

Sorry, I'm also extra pissy because I feel the nesting stress.

Spoiler

I have like 90% of the actual stuff I need for baby, but we still have these undone projects which I can't do on my own (Cessna, I'm looking at you!) and I got stuff to do. We still have like 3 out of 4 names to pick for surprise baby (first and middle for both sexes), and besides that birth planning feels like it takes up all my time (learning Hypnobirthing, creating a birth plan, healthcare POA, etc). I can play but I can't camp the thread or make up for people dropping their own balls.

 

[Crayola227]

And now I feel like an idiot for realizing I never self-prezzed

Mama's gonna give you the whip.

 

[BobLoblaw78]

I do think there's significant merit to solid characters being scum, but Genny's point that scum may be given cover roles should still be considered as it's just a basic concept of WW in general.




I would assume it was Genny at this point given the current info.




This is interesting to me because my results were somewhat similar. Sounds like MKG's blocks were unsuccessful, but you and I were both saved d/t some kind of electrical/structural issue. I'm wondering if the action may have been protection instead of a block. Also, even if mkg blocked Genny, that doesn't explain why the attempt on me didn't go through.




I'm starting to wonder if it wasn't a block at all and that it was either protection or cancel that prevents any actions to or from a player. Not sure how helpful this tunnel would be at this point, but so far confirmed info:

N1: Failed NK on Samac by Genny, Zenge successfully kills (by wolves?)
N2: Failed NK on Stagg by ?????, V-Pizzle killed by ?????

So far we've got 4 attempted NKs that are known and 2 which were successful. Not sure about the context of Genny's death, was that part of night actions too?

You’re killing me staggs! (Sandlot ref)

 

[TelemarketingEnigma]

I do think there's significant merit to solid characters being scum, but Genny's point that scum may be given cover roles should still be considered as it's just a basic concept of WW in general.




I would assume it was Genny at this point given the current info.




This is interesting to me because my results were somewhat similar. Sounds like MKG's blocks were unsuccessful, but you and I were both saved d/t some kind of electrical/structural issue. I'm wondering if the action may have been protection instead of a block. Also, even if mkg blocked Genny, that doesn't explain why the attempt on me didn't go through.




I'm starting to wonder if it wasn't a block at all and that it was either protection or cancel that prevents any actions to or from a player. Not sure how helpful this tunnel would be at this point, but so far confirmed info:

N1: Failed NK on Samac by Genny, Zenge successfully kills (by wolves?)
N2: Failed NK on Stagg by ?????, V-Pizzle killed by ?????

So far we've got 4 attempted NKs that are known and 2 which were successful. Not sure about the context of Genny's death, was that part of night actions too?

you left genny out of the kills - does that mean you know what caused her death? i need to recheck writeups but considering she was 3P she could have been a wolf kill (or another 3P kill if my tinfoil actually panned out)

 

[Crayola227]

i missed this happen, interesting

i don't recall if i've seen an AM waffle like this

This gives me pings. First you blame me for what happened, and now you call this totally reasonable and expected move from AM I've seen her do a thousand times in reaction to a self resolving claim, a "waffle."

Feels like mischaracterization. Which unless it's a misunderstanding or something, is almost always a wolfy thing to do.

 

[Crayola227]

ok back to this
there's this killer in the series who like TORMENTS the bau, he's kinda one of the only main characters/bad guys (he name Mr.Scratch)
I'm not sure that anyone on the BAU would be a wolf, but i would be a bit surprised if Mr.Scratch wasn't in the game as a wolf

Getting the vibe maybe that the wolves killed Please because she seemed like she knew the source material and might be good at mechanics solving. Then you have to ask yourself, which wolves would be most likely to think this way and feel threatened and kill on this basis.

 

[Crayola227]

I'm surprised you moved a deciding vote that easily, especially knowing what has happened to me in the last 2 games I made verifiable claims...

I don't remember what happened. Were you wolf? I thought in one of them you were village.

 

[samac]

Wait, do I have this right? You were village, but you were willing to collude with a wolf just to get them to PM with you?

I was 3P survivor

 

[Crayola227]

A seer who somehow didnt think to self-prez? Seems a little...irresponsible?

Also didn't submit seer someone. Is he indicating he was blocked last night? Not sure.

Wondering if cubs is making a valid point vs he's wolfily heaping some sus where the opportunity presents itself

 

[Crayola227]

There’s a difference between hypocritical reads and possible slip ups, though. I don’t have a problem with any and all hypocritical reads because you can realize that something you’re doing is something wolves are more likely to do (e.g. ghosting and giving little to no reasoning), but have your own reasons for doing it (e.g. cleaning up toddler vomit), and obviously know that you’re a villager so not be suspicious of yourself but be suspicious of others who are doing it

Yes, oh God, thank you. This is what I'm saying. Defending saying "how can you fault me for doing the same thing you are" is like the crappiest defense ever. You can obviously say "well I find your ghosting sus as well" and that's fine. One is offensive and makes sense. The defense doesn't. Obviously anyone ghosting can try to say it's NAI for them or AI for someone else, but saying it's wolfy for someone to not give someone a pass for something they themselves are doing? No. The game doesn't work like that.