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I wasn't as stuck on jboo as you were on bryndi. C'mon now.
I mean, you were stuck enough to lead her lynch and helped her die.
I wasn't as stuck on jboo as you were on bryndi. C'mon now.
Looking back at the phrasing, it was more like not every capsule has good ****, not necessarily "omg you could die if you open it"
and all i got was food which did nothing
Dunno what the worst possibility is though, I don't think anyone besides me and DVMD have mentioned having it
Also, nobody else has been silenced, right? So that was probably the post restrictor?
Just in case we were not clear, that reference gets you
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Too lazy to quote but she said it was a capsule? Item? of some sort that when opened fudged up her speech. At least that is what I remember.
Also... so that bryndi flip huh?
Ye she said it was the capsule
Nope!@TheGirlWithTheFernTattoo you came on the thread before noon and said you were catching up. Have you?
Why are you eating them!???😱I'm just saying, they taste a little...rotten
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Just in case we were not clear, that reference gets you
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Bummer. That sounds like a rough day.Nope!
Got 5 pages in before I was interrupted by a phone call from my very pissed off boss because I apparently was supposed to be at work...
Home, doing what I can now but I'm not willing to stay up more than 45 minutes.
Throws sketch SAR's way right after OG Cray lynch votes SAR. Reads like sending sparks that way to see if they'd catch fire, because in the immediate next post:The noob vote bothers me, but the 'I might be back before close' when we have 21 freaking hours left really bothers me.
Votes OG mixy +village points to SARLynch Mixy
For her comment on DVMD's vote, and also a good number of fluff posts already.
more sketchy on OG MixyThis is a little odd, because Cray wasn't defending DVMD. She even said she had some feels about it (see bold). The snark about meta is interesting - usually that's when a question is posed to a player and someone jumps in to answer first. DVMD made a vote and told us her reasons, people jumped on her 'over explanation' and Cray responded with her reads on the situation. DVMD is experienced, but we still need people to share reads on her play . . . I'm not seeing what you're seeing here.
Thoughts so far:
Two sentences is totes village. But four? Four is suspicious. Noted for future.
Peebs calling out fluff on D1? A D1 that started late at night? Really?
It seems AM came prepared with extra doses of question marks.
I feel some energy crackalackin in here and I like it. My vote should surprise no one.
Lynch cheezit
+Village points to dubz because she mentions feels on PBC early in the day and then later on actually acts on it. This is before Coops starts bussing PBC so I doubt it was part of an elaborate wolf-plot that involved two wolves bussing a third.Lynch peebs
Feelers
Sheeping Pippy's logic. -Village points to Pippy.What makes me hesitant is that to clear her someone else has to vouch that they used an action, which makes them a target even if they don't reveal what ability they have.
My feels weren't very solid to begin with but I don't love the role reveal. I am leaning towards trusting it (or at least letting it be) for now, but I want to find a better candidate before I switch. I'll catch up more thoroughly and see if I feel the same.
You don't love the role reveal and it made your feels more solid, but at the same time you trust it and and are looking for someone else?
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Pippy calls her out on the inconsistency in logic. + Village points to Pippy.I didn't say I trust it, but I am willing to consider other people. I realize I didn't make the most sense there. If someone else is a real possibility I could be persuaded to move my vote.
She didn't bring up another candidate in her defense (unless I missed it on my phone?) which is another weird feel. I'm more inclined to go with role reveals if they're making a effort to contribute themselves rather than hoping their reveal will magically take the pressure off.
Eh, I'm talking myself around in circles. I don't see another player I want to lynch more than her, especially from the other slight leaders - I don't want to vote Moose for inactivity when so many people still haven't come in at all, and I need to look closer and see what the coffee? votes are for.
coops throwing PBC under the bus. This is where I started getting weird feels.This feels weird wishy washy. Like if you're a wolf you could be like hey I was against it if she's village but be like hey I wasn't vouching if she's a wolf. Basically it's sets off all the feels.
Coops continuing to bus PBC.This is weird, if you believe her you believe her don't rely on others to bring up candidates. Think for yourself
How many times is someone leading lynch and we ask them for their reads? There's a reason.
I stand by that. She's trying to save herself with a role reveal and not by contributing to discussion. Her role reveal made me hesitate when I saw it at first, but the more I look at her, the more things are off.
There a difference between asking for reads and saying she hasn't proposed someone in her stead so that's why you're voting for her. I dunno feels weird.
I'm saying she took a last ditch attempt (role reveal should always be dead last defense), commented on the people voting for her, role revealed, and that's it. I'm saying there was a lack of effort on her part and I don't like it.
PBC honestly, she's just so wishy-washy right now like she knows what's coming and is trying to prematurely build a defense. But I don't want to change my feels about mixy based on my feels for another person if that makes any sense. I'd be happy with either lynch rn.
That I completely agree with and was one of the reasons I didn't like that role reveal at all. But I do understand she thought she couldn't speak again for the rest of the day so what do you think about that?
The wolf-wolf BS that gave me more weird feels.I think that's convenient.
She posted her role reveal just after 4 my time and posted up until 4:50 ish. She had time to try other tactics before her reveal.
+Village points to Paws for same reason I gave WZ village points above.I still like a PBC lynch here so since people seem to say she's on there list I'll put it out again
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More sketch on OG Mixy lynch.She did, when she said Cray was jumping to defend DVMD.
And then has snark for people voting her:
I still say lack of effort before role reveal. Her reveal was 10 hours after her most recent post, and she had almost an hour free to be on the thread. I'm still saying it was a quick jump to revealing.
Tally? I'm really not feeling the coffee lynch. On the fence about MA. Could go with PBC as I can see those feels
Eh feck it
Unlynch bryndy
Lynch pbc
Wow. Missed it by thaaaaat much haha. My timing sucks
Dubz questioning PBC. +Village points to dubz for following up her "feelers"Reading through, really wish I hadn't been attempting to sleep. Could no one figure out that using literally any ability on Mixy would have sufficed? If someone got back results on her that didn't align with a commuter role, boom, lynch. If they got back results that seemed to fit with her claim, they could very well keep quiet unless it was necessary to reveal, just like a seer would if they seered someone village. It's not that hard.
Eh +.0001 village point for bringing up PBC but not following through with a lynch vote.PBC's giving me feels and some of the arguments she's making are confusing me.
My top choices right now are PBC and Cray because their logic seemed strange to me at some points, but for now
Contingency Lynch Elf because I'd like some actual game commentary. Likely won't be on until tomorrow afternoon since tomorrow will be our baptism by fire (me and another intern are running our floor, no seniors residents), but I'll try and get caught up well before lynch rolls around.
+1000000 village points to meOh I thought you were one of the people we tend to lynch early.
This is the reasoning why @PippyPony is now one of my top wolf candidates.
@CoffeeQuestionMark I want some actual gameplay and analysis from you now that we have a flip (or actually two if you don't respond by the night write-up)
@PrincessButterCup what did you learn from this flip?
@Coopah In the above, you were quoting Dubz unlyching Mixy, what conclusions or thoughts from the Mixy flip did you gain?
ETA: Very disappointed none of you called me out on the Soul Calibur profile picture; and I thought I was amongst fellow nerds 😛
Eh whole lotta null, just defending herself against my question. Brings up Coffee and MOOSE and not wanting to vote thereThat she didn't lie about her role and she was village . . . ? 😛
Looking at yesterday, I stand by that lynch. There was some weird feels from her posts about DVMD's hydra comments and Cray's reaction, and that's basically the only reads she gave all day, with some snarky comments about the people voting her when she role revealed. So I got weird feels from her only reads, along with a number of fluff posts (I know, D1, right after game opening - fluff can just be having fun, but coupled with the weird reads it felt off). She went to a role reveal as defense pretty quickly (didn't have any other post in ten hours, presumably sees she's up for lynch and has almost an hour to be on the thread and uses that time to reveal, then gone for rest of cycle). I really didn't like that there was no effort to not reveal. The role she claimed wasn't very convincing - yes, it would typically be village, but it's not seen much in the capacity she had it and would be easy to lie about. It can be proven, as Dubz was saying, but is that worth it when there's so much other sketch floating around? The cost of proving it means someone has to use their ability, which can't really be coordinated, and ends up in at least a few wasted actions. And 'proving' assumes mod results would be sufficient to confirm her claim, when results can sometimes be vague and subject to interpretation. Either way, her reveal alone was not compelling enough to make me choose Coffee? or Moose over her.
It went into a bandwagon, and maybe it wouldn't have if it hadn't been D1. I still think there was enough smoke to make her a valid choice.
Rez!Mixy reaction to PBC's last post. reads null to me. Could see where its RezWolf - Wolf interaction but have to really stretch it.I'm all fine and dandy with you not liking my dvmd, fluff, and going off feels. I know IRL stuff doesn't matter but it is annoying when someone basically uses that as a reason to lynch. I told you I was gonna be sleeping. Then I said I was going to work. In that hour I was up-I got dressed, ate breakfast and drove 30 minutes. So quite frankly annoyed and that was a reason that factored into your lynch vote on me. Told you I didn't have time to try and defend myself but yet you expected me to defend so yes I role revealed and hoped it was good enough. But I had village all figured out as soon as people were all suspicious of my dvmd comment. Got lynched. Figured. Under react would've been seen as Wolfy. Over react Wolfy. There was no winning with my time crunch. Wouldn't have played it any different. Revealing gave me my best chance given my situation.
I'll be back later today. I'll do my best to go back through from yesterday. If anyone has anything specific they want me to answer then please tag me.
Lynches JBoo out of the gate. Where the hell did this read come from?Lynch Jboo
He posted several times about wolves hiding behind the thread, which is easy to say when so many people hadn't checked in yet, but actually gives no info. He mentioned it at least three times. Some feels, so I'll start my vote here.
Jboo defends against PBC.Ahhhhh, yes, it's not WW without misgendering!
The hiding thing is just a hunch. I know I've done it as a wolf.
Also, to your point about "giving no info," I've said in previous games that I hate D1. I'm **** at reading people on D1. I'm better at reading people over a few days and seeing their interactions and voting patterns. So sue me for not writing up BS reads on D1 and misleading the village.
More sketch thrown at JbooIt was empty speculation, which made it weird for you to bring up several times. It's not inherently sketch to mention in passing. You seemed really intent on it, which was strange.
+Village points to Dubz.Lynch peebs
To see how it feels in the light of a new day
+1000000000 village points to me. - a few village points for not following through on a PBC lynch vote.I'm with Cray on this one, I saw Coop's opening vote and shrugged. It doesn't clear or condemn Elfabeth
I'm finding it a little odd that of all the things that went on between her first vote and this post (DVMD v.s. Mixy; SAR being called sketchy; etc.) BBC chose to comment on hydras.
Coops is referring to PBC. and leading up to this post Coops was sort of egging on Pippy's questioning of PBC. I'm just trying to figure out the wolf motivation to sit on a vote for Mixy that looked solid, and still push PBC. Smells a little like setting up early wolf-wolf interaction (between Coops and PBC)
Soooooooo about that spreadsheet?
+Village points for continued PBC suspicion. Willing to forgive hesitancy to vote due to being busy and wanting to read the thread.I think it's logical based on the game. Only so many characters can taste if the mods are going off of actual Smash abilities. Kirby and Yoshi are just the obvious choices imo.
I've only read part way through page 10, so I've got a ton to catch up on. I gave my thoughts earlier, so not much new since then. PBC and Cray were and still are near top of my list. JBoo and Dubz are also kind of off to me.
Like I said last game though, I don't like players that are dead weight or weak attempts to not seem like dead weight, which is why my vote is sitting with elf for now. May very well change my vote when I get caught up tonight, but just got a new admission, so may be closer to lynch than I'd like.
Hedges on AM, but still feels the need to mention her. Throws sketch towards Jboo and OG CrayOn the whole AM feels pretty village to me, but I found this noteworthy from yesterday. AM switches off Coop and onto Moose without giving any reasoning . . .
. . . except this later:
And then posts this is response to Genny's vote (which also had no discussion):
The consistency is weird. She sticks with it though:
Regarding Jboo's response to why she was so fixated on the 'wolves behind the thread' theory:
Jboo is basically saying "there might be wolves already posting, but there might also be wolves not posting!' - I don't see why this clarification was needed, except that she felt she needed to cover her butt. It's still a weird comment to have repeated/clarified so frequently.
This was posted 20 minutes before lynch closed yesterday. At that point, it's beyond putting pressure on someone. Mixy was going to be lynched unless a major change happened, and she wasn't expected back on the thread. It's really odd to justify wanting to put pressure on someone (rather than saying she wants to lynch her) at that point in the day.
Kinda sorta defending Allie/Red/Kara?If we didn't know that they were a hydra, I'd agree with you. But we know that Kara is in her head, and Red doesn't have that excuse. Being a hydra =/= being a wolf pack.
Elfabeth relaying BBC's reads pertaining to PBC/Coop.Here are BBC's reads:
PBC's reasoning for Mixy was a little weak, but again it is D1. Slightly suspicious.
Coop called out PBC. Would be a bit ballsy for a wolf-wolf interaction D1, which makes me a little less suspicious of PBC. She also called out Dolphin. Anyone know how willing Coop would be to call out another wolf right away?
Rez!Mixy feels on PBC. Null.When I get to my computer later tonight/tomorrow will do more reads, but briefly-DVMD seems villagey to me. PBC maybe I'm just salty but feels there. Elfa pingy but maybe just squirley noob. Do not like jboos stuff currently. Wz and pip are currently neutral along with mel. I feel like AM knows something more than she's letting on. Dolphin seems village. Still getting most feels from cray.
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Huge case on Paws, yet no lynch vote on her. Meanwhile Paws hasn't said a damn word about PBC up until this point on this day when the day before she was on the PBC lynch.I'm ISO'ing at the moment, and Paws stands way the hell out for being pretty intense on thread for people's reads, but hasn't posted many original comments herself.
In response to DVMD today, when she mentioned how many pages behind she was:
Overly caustic? And then she's looking for reads from Bryn but still hasn't been posting her own:
No reasoning:
Noob game flashbacks. Game stuff stays in the game - looking at when people are online, when they're in pm, etc, is more distracting than useful.
This gets sort of close to reads?
No specifics regarding why she's pinged by me:
This is in reply to Cheese, which is laughable because he gives way more specifics than she has:
Digging for reads:
In response to AM, again, hypocritical digging:
Why feels for me and cray? Why village lean for dolphin? We dunno
BUT WHY YOUR FEELS
Getting upset about Moose babysitting when she should be packing, because that consistency is super important:
Why aren't you ready to vote there? What about her response alleviated some (though not all) your suspicion?
Such snark:
I'm curious how other people read her, because this seems way over the top to me.
Paws responding to PBC's case against her.Why am I not allowed to ask questions? No one has asked me any questions that I haven't answered.
Alot of those posts you quoted were responses in the moment, in other words, original thought! I hope people go back and read context rather than take your word.
I'm not a noob like my game two where you can just throw shade and get me lynched. I thought you were wolfly yesterday and this feels retalitory. Sorry you don't like the snark
Dubz defending Paws against PBC. don't know what to make of it. Could mean slight + Village points to paws.Fwiw much of this feels like recent village paws to me, especially the questions
a null feeling post from Paws relating to PBC.Thank you. PBC hasn't played with me recently, and really only once I think when she was a wolf and I was a stupid noob trying not to hurt anyone's feelings in a game I didn't understand. I'm a different player now (I hope). I'm still not very good but I won't be going gently any longer
Unlynching PBC to lynch OG Crayola who turned out village. Not the best look, but at that point I think PBC wasn't a viable lynch candidate anyway. - .0001 Village points for dubz.Unlynch peebs Lynch cray
Feels like things are about to get interesting, and I want in!
More sketch on Paws.You can definitely ask questions. You can definitely be snarky. I want more though - I want you to tell us why you're voting beyond "she's on other people's lists so lynch PBC". It's the way you're probing so hard for other people's reads but not giving your own. In any of your lynch votes, do you say WHY you're getting feels (or not getting feels) on anyone? Your posts so far are very unbalanced.
Point out which posts I quoted that you say are original thought. I'm interested to see which you mean.
Sketch on Dolphin? Maybe? Joke? saying null for now.Weren't you just posting about not following what the veterans are doing? 😉
Paws defending against PBC again.The ping was just gut feel based on your tone in posts
again, d1 tone/feels. Dolphin leaning village was based off his response to something early d1 but im having trouble finding it, will look after posting this response.
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this and the above two are original thought. no one had given a feel on dolphin ahead of my comment, and this quote here was even quoted shortly after by pippy saying she thought something similar. show me where other people said these things first. I worked really hard yesterday to keep up and to put out thoughts as i had them.
The moose babysitting vs packing was looking for an inconsistency, i thought maybe she had lied and then forgot her excuse
calling out bryndi today was because she had not posted in the game for like 36 hours but i saw that she was online several times when i was isoing individual people via profiles. i was sort of satisfied enough to not vote there becuase she gave a couple reads and a village lean and i didn;t really know what more to ask to pressure there.
Doesn't lynch PBC, but instead Cray. Okay I'll admit at least there is consistency between her reads and knee-jerk reactions. +a couple village points to Paws.im behind on reading thread but i will put in a vote for
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since yesterday i felt she sounded wolfy and her comments about what she would do as a wolf always seem wolfy
Starting to back off of Paws after lynch close. don't know how to read but gut says - Village points to Paws because of her follow up post:I think we're having some communication errors about what I meant. Just saying you have feels (leaning either way, village or wolf) is not what I meant by original content. If you pointed to a specific post and told me my tone was off - that's what I'd consider specific or original. The posts I quoted from you (and even the two you requoted) don't give specific feels, just blanket feels. For you to then turn around and probe others for reads feels disingenuous when what you're posting is "I have feels for" and "I'm most pinged by." If that's village norm for you I'm less bothered by it.
It's not wrong to post that way, I just want something more substantial to evaluate you on.
Where's all the fire and "I'm not going down without a fight" Suddenly after lynch close they're kissing and making up. Do not likeI see your point. Definitely still trying to learn how to verbalize those feelings and know what it is about posts or setsof posts that make me feel a certain way still
quotes dolphin and Red/Kara posts. Third time Dolphin's name pops up in conjunction with two different wolves (Coopah and PBC)@PrincessButterCup
Fwiw, this was the post and reaction that had dolphin slightly lean village that I mentioned in my post
You annoy me.A compilation of random thoughts:
On reread, coop/Peebs interactions don't read wolf/wolf. I didn't get too much else from ISOing coop's posts...maybe a village point or two for AM and cheezit.
+1000000000000000 Village points to me1. Still MOOSE, her reads this morning have done nothing to assuage my feelings from yesterday.
2. PBC - Something has been making my hairs stand on end about her since D1. It might be the way she started on you [SAR] when it looked like you were picking up heat, and then flipped to Mixy and drove that lynch hard. She mentioned she "is willing to consider other people" but never came back to you and questioned you. Then yesterday she started out lynching JBoo for a semi-okay reason, then swings for the fences on Paws, but never votes Paws, and drops it without hesitation and sits comfortably on the Jboo wagon.
A very distant 3rd - Dubz - Its the middle of D2 and I'm still only reading her null with everything she's said, and our PM. That isn't outright enough a reason to start a lynch on her, but I could back one if people have strong reasons.
Starts picking up the PBC scent?Wouldn’t surprise me if they both flipped wolf. Other theories are that I’d like to hear from ny (has anyone heard from her today? Has anyone claimed silencing?) and that PBC said something in my catch-up read that weirded me out.
Original theory is still a possibility. I’m keeping tabs on people who have been pretty quiet, as per usual.
I called out those players because they hadn’t voted yet on D1 and it was close to lynch close.
What'd PBC say?
Do you have a rebuttal to Moose who pointed out that she had been active today, yet you only honed in on when she was defending herself?
+ Village points to both.Will have to look back to see what PBC said that irked me. I did catch up on 8 pgs earlier.
Re: moose, I disagree is all. But that could also just be me freshly remembering how she defended a lot last game when she wolfed.
potential pocketing? Gut says subtract a couple village points from ELF/LotF for this one.I don't think Elf/LoTF is a wolf. Elf would have had a wolf pack giving her advice, and she never would have slid by with one post on D1 - and especially not that "I'm a noob so I'm bandwagoning" vote. If LoTF is a silencer I think it's a village ability.
Another explanation for the late restriction today: it's possible that the mods missed an action when doing write ups this morning and told DVMD a little late that she has a restriction. I'm not sure if it makes sense for LoTF to be able to submit a night action when she was added to the game this morning, but it's possible.
Giant case against MOOSE but still doesn't vote there.MOOSE seems to be the woman of the hour today, so here are my thoughts on her posts thus far.
There were 106 when I isolated them. Holy.
Her D1 vote was interesting because she votes for someone she doesn't actually want to see lynched. If she thought Mixy was village, why not put her vote somewhere where it might save Mixy? Voting for Elf accomplished nothing but checking that "congrats you voted!" box.
The following interaction between MOOSE and AM begins with MOOSE's reads, where she mentions SAR seems suspicious (which is vague) but she's voting for Elf.
She's backtracking on her initial feels for Elf now that's she's been called on it. Originally she said she was voting for Elf because she didn't think Elf would be lynched, and she needed to vote for someone. She literally said nothing about having feels for Elf (beyond saying it's a good strategy to play the noob card - which is funny, because most of the Elf votes stemmed from her doing just that). Once she identifies SAR as sketchy she has to justify her Elf vote, and suddenly her feels for Elf are stronger than for SAR.
And continuation of the "I'm getting feels" without articulating why.
So wishy-washy. SAR was suspicious but oh that was a misreading, but she's still suspicious, but I don't have enough info. What info are you waiting for to figure out your feels?
Her response to Coffee? was strange, where she almost defends Red but then tried to negate it with her second bold comment
I don't like how often she's used D1 as an excuse (?) for the reads she posted.
This is kind of adorable, actually:
Bold can kind of explain MOOSE, too. She's posting A LOT (over 100 messages so far) but most of it is conversational. Her reads and feels have all been pretty vague.
The second bold sentence above: what? The magical things about votes is that you can change them. You don't have to believe 100% that you're voting for a wolf. She has this noncommittal attitude when she shares feels and votes, and I'm not sure if it's more noob-MOOSE or wolf-MOOSE.
Moose's responseI originally voted for Elfy, and stated, that I didn't like the bandwagoning comment. It was a vote because that set of my sketchdar however, I was willing to acknowledge that noobs make mistakes and was not on board with the mixy vote or anyone else with more votes. I gave reads because I was trying to be honest, maybe a bit too much as it was D1 (sorry, had to say it again). I have a better read on SAR now and I'm leaning more village on her. Kara won't always be messaging her, sometimes Red will have to make statements on her own and it was a possibility that this was one of those times (I was simply acknowledging that). I'm not 100% on Jboo and I've ALWAYS gotten sketch feels from her in every game we've played so I'm starting to second guess myself on her a bit and was willing to give her a shot.
First person to vote PBC that day and in line with earlier reads. Whoever this axolotl is deserves village points.Unlynch MOOSE
Lynch PBC
says could be persuaded to vote PBC if I had a good reason. Null.Could be persuaded to go there. Particular reason for the switch?
mentions feels for PBC again +.0001 Village point.Re: my feels for PBC, her post about Paws kinda struck me because she posted it when no suspicion was being thrown her way and then that train of thought just kinda disappeared from hers and everyone else’s minds.
+ 100 Village points for actually doing it.Lynch pbc
Willing to keep jboo arou d after reveal, I'm reading moose as more villagery, and I'm neutral to slight village on dubz. Based on going back and rereading a little bit, I don't like how pbc has been really wishy washy and hedging on votes. Mostly feels, but I'm playing a terrible game and some feels are better than none
I'm willing to switch to PBC because I am village and there is a possibility that you are village as well. Are you willing to switch?
Others seem to think jboo not a good idea so I'm willing to budge for now. Still not seeing the moose lynch personally. PBC is still bugging me. Can't articulate my reasons why exactly. Seems to pick one person and then be stuck on them. Hmm. Will think more on this for now.
###unlynch jboo###
Slow to get there, but finally does it. This vote pushes PBC into viable lynch territory at the time.I'll go with it for now ###lynch pbc###
@johnnaboo I'm with skimble that it probably is more likely to be village than wolf part of reason I'm backing off for now. On other hand what about after WZ?
Also not sure I like moose asking jboo to switch with her. It gives me feels of when WM and I tied lynch vote with AMs help as a wolf...
lynch PBC
This gives me more feels. I like the pbc lynch better though so you're safe for now but my eyes be on you![]()
Swings for the fences on JBoo.I don't see where you've really made a case for this though. You've mentioned her a few times, sure.
Your laundry list:
1.) Dubz is being mean to me.
2.) Fluff (which she pointed out as well)
3.) Sass (which you agree is normal to some extent)
See following quotes for citations:
Jboo was pretty intent on calling out MOOSE's D1 reads. The following convo, we have MOOSE insisting her reads can be vague because it's D1. We have Jboo insisting it's too many read to have D1, even though they're vague and unsubstantiated in her post. We have Bryn thinking the whole thing is weird, and Jboo insisting it's sketchy.
I didn't have a problem with the number of people MOOSE commented on, I had a problem with the wishy-washy disclaimers she seems to tack on to everything.
This interaction:
MOOSE has over 100 posts in this game so far. Jboo's claim that she only pops in to defend herself is laughably unfounded.
@Animal Midwife what do you feel about the pbc lynch
- a buncha Village points from AMI mean, I guess it's okay since it was an egg to be cracked anyway, but I have bigger Magikarp to fry.
more Jboo sketchThis isn't inherently village. MJ and I have both had this ability as wolves.
I don't like giving Pippy village points so I'm not gonna.What's your point here, Peebs
More sketch on Jboo and tries to defend her line of inquiry on Paws.Excuse me, are we not allowed to examine people unless others are already talking about them?
I had ISO'd Paws and found her posts to be worth looking at and getting opinions on. In bold: I'm obviously attempting to start a dialogue about my findings.
Paws replied, and we had a brief back and forth:
Dubz chimed in and suggested Paws has been playing pretty village:
So yes, the train of thought disappeared, but not without discussion.
I think you're trying really hard to find something sketchy to talk about, but this complaint is pretty odd.
Finally votes Jboo. Defends Paws LOI even more.Lynch Jboo
I've talked about my feels for her before, starting with the "wolves hiding behind the thread" comments. I think her insistence that Dubz is sketch is interesting, considering all of her complaints are vague and she even contradicts herself re: Dubz's snark. I don't see a case being made that Dubz is playing "drastically different" than normal.
But if Dubz is so sketch, why is my Paws conversation so much worse? Why is
1.) Bringing attention to a player with an inconsistent posting history (digging for reads and not posting many herself)
2.) Compiling the posts I found odd in order to present my reads and look for other opinions
3.) Continuing to discuss these posts with Paws
so sketch?
I hadn't looked at Jboo's more recent play since my last vote for her, so that's what I did. I thought her claims about Dubz are pretty soft and her calling out MOOSE for having "too many" D1 reads was really strange.
I have no problem with examining people. It’s the name of the game. The timing of it though made it stick out more. It was posted close to 9pm last night.
I posted it at 5:54 pm my time, which was over a full hour before lynch closed (7 pm my time). Why was that odd?
Because Paws wasn’t gaining traction as a viable lynch vote. So why bring it up so close to lynch close? To try to deter people off of a wolf (Moose)?
If I wanted to try and push a Paws lynch I would have voted for her in my post. That's not what I was doing. I noticed something that felt off; I looked closer and posted my thoughts, asking for other opinions on her play. Paws defended herself. I clarified what I meant by her lack of original content. Dubz replied that she was reading Paws as village. I'm now reading her as village leaning, as well. It was a worthwhile post in that regard.
Should I have waited until this morning? Should I have held my tongue and not voiced those thoughts? Is an hour before lynch not enough time to examine anyone not currently on the lynch tally? Do you need a breakdown of my day yesterday to decide if I'm allowed to post at 5:54 pm?
Why are people mis-repping this. I don't know how I feel about PBC, but she dropped it once I responded and no one really even voted for me
That was my fault, I took forever to respond cuz ive been too busy this weekend
Maybe wolf hedging her bets on getting ready to bus another wolf? Maybe villager truly behind? gonna go with null on this one until you combine it with this:PBCs defense feels off, but I don't know if that is just because it is still tentative.
Now it feels like she hedged her bets on whether she should bus PBC or not, waited for village to consolidate one way or the other, saw her chance to save a fellow wolf and voted Jboo.I don't want to vote for moose with the genny couch and her responses have seemed pretty villager today.
I don't feel like the responses from jboo are reading village and I have a lot more experience with that ability as wolf over village so I am jumping there.
I am holding off on milking goats in case someone convinces me elsewhere.
Unlynch Meeses
Lynch jboo
You annoy me.Where tf are these PBC votes suddenly coming from, when nobody even wanted to discuss her as an option yesterday? 😵
What bothers me here is that Cray doesn't get why PBC is a contender but has a grasp on the AM/Bryndy situation.Not sure why PBC is a contender today.
Don't know why AM voted BJ, which I would like to know, since AM's been high in my suspicions. In the absence of understanding all of the above, I dunno if she's the best choice or I'm missing something.
I always like to revisit those I've been suspicious of previously, such as SAR. As I said, I'm behind. Anyone want to share thoughts on her? Not trying to follow others' logic, but regardless what's said, I take it all as data.
Village point to genny.unlynch jboo
lynch pbc
No village points for you.Unlynch MOOSE
Lynch PBC
self prez
I want to take village points from you, but I know this was because you were looking to break the tie. I think? Maybe?Unlynch WZ lynch jboo
YOU ON THE OTHER HAND WERE TRYING TO SAVE YOUR WOLF-BUDDY WERENCHYA?###lynxh jboo
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I don't really like any of these
Something made you so tired last night and now you are too sleepy to post during D2. You may begin posting again on N2. You can post a lynch vote here.
Eh, only asking about affiliation because as I said above, something seems off about balance.@Miranda Senft and whoever else:
I have no indication that the people I rezzed came back as villagers. However, I'm pretty sure I got seered last night, and my role is literally described as "benevolent" and "pure-hearted," and I would therefore be mildly pissed if the rezzes came back as anything other than village. I also only had 2 of them; it is not at all out of the ordinary for kaydubs to have a 2 shot village rezzer in her games.
And regardless, the more people ask about the rezzes' affiliation this early, the more I'm inclined to lynch them for pointless convert hunting. Deal with them later.
That puts it mildly.Bummer. That sounds like a rough day.
I need to ask for a swap out, actually. I'm too busy to play. I thought I could find a few minutes but that has proven impossible with my hours and readings. Sorry mods, I really tried
But y
Allie definitely does not need adult supervision lol
I appreciate your attempt to play. 😍I need to ask for a swap out, actually. I'm too busy to play. I thought I could find a few minutes but that has proven impossible with my hours and readings. Sorry mods, I really tried
I need to ask for a swap out, actually. I'm too busy to play. I thought I could find a few minutes but that has proven impossible with my hours and readings. Sorry mods, I really tried
This. But that remains to be seen, I suppose.****
Or maybe we have more people than usual playing?
*****
Uh yeah...this. When given the option to sub for a single player or the hydra I jumped on the hydra because I just can't keep up by myself.*****
Boy, love you too pippy
Maybe it's because I requested to play as a Hydra in sign-ups and still want to. Definitely wouldn't be able to fully play with the amount of posting this game
*****
Nope, I said cray was my second choice, never said I didn't agree with the voteWZ did you say you jumped to Cray because you would rather do a vote you didn’t agree with than avoid the potential of a wafflefest? That makes 0 sense.
It varies. This is pretty normal for a summer game with almost 30 people, especially when the rate of death is slow****
Is the quantity of postings in this particular game normal?
Trying to gauge what to expect if I try again one day. Man, I really underestimated you all.
Or maybe we have more people than usual playing?
*****
To add onto this though, you don't have to thoroughly read and analyze every single post to play. That's what I do when I have time but I definitely skim when I don't and just participate as much as I can. A game like this, there are enough active villagers around to support the busy ones. And once the active ones get killed off (as inevitably happens), there is less to read lolIt varies. This is pretty normal for a summer game with almost 30 people, especially when the rate of death is slow
In hindsight it is clear I should have stayed on the gut feelings I had for PBC. I was too worried that I was feeling emotions from a noob game that she wolfed and I was lynched and projecting them on to this gamr. That's why my defense was so hot, and that's why I backed off so much when she did. I thought I had overreacted emotionally not logically. I didn't have thread proof to give you all, just a feeling of deja Vu that I didn't trust.lol I actually had to split it into two posts because it was too long for SDN to handle
PT 2!
+1000000000000000 Village points to me
- a few for not voting PBC.
Starts picking up the PBC scent?
and then Coffee responds:
+ Village points to both.
potential pocketing? Gut says subtract a couple village points from ELF/LotF for this one.
Giant case against MOOSE but still doesn't vote there.
Moose's response
Its possible there would have been more of a back and forth here to evaluate, but genny soft-vouches for MOOSE at this point so its believable that PBC drops the topic of MOOSE to avoid looking sketchy. This makes me give MOOSE + village points for that interaction.
First person to vote PBC that day and in line with earlier reads. Whoever this axolotl is deserves village points.
says could be persuaded to vote PBC if I had a good reason. Null.
mentions feels for PBC again +.0001 Village point.
+ 100 Village points for actually doing it.
Slow to get there, but finally does it. This vote pushes PBC into viable lynch territory at the time.
Swings for the fences on JBoo.
- a buncha Village points from AM
more Jboo sketch
I don't like giving Pippy village points so I'm not gonna.
More sketch on Jboo and tries to defend her line of inquiry on Paws.
- Village points from Paws.
Finally votes Jboo. Defends Paws LOI even more.
More Jboo - PBC back and forth, with a weird timed defense of PBC from Paws....
I don't know if Paws has any Village points left for me to take from her...
Maybe wolf hedging her bets on getting ready to bus another wolf? Maybe villager truly behind? gonna go with null on this one until you combine it with this:
Now it feels like she hedged her bets on whether she should bus PBC or not, waited for village to consolidate one way or the other, saw her chance to save a fellow wolf and voted Jboo.
- a lotta village points.
You annoy me.
- Village points
What bothers me here is that Cray doesn't get why PBC is a contender but has a grasp on the AM/Bryndy situation.
Village point to genny.
No village points for you.
This vote came right at lynch close and broke the tie between PBC and Jboo
I want to take village points from you, but I know this was because you were looking to break the tie. I think? Maybe?
this one came after lynch close
YOU ON THE OTHER HAND WERE TRYING TO SAVE YOUR WOLF-BUDDY WERENCHYA?
Didn't N3 and D4 because those weren't too long ago and y'all can read them if you're interested. (and I've been working on this for 4 hours already because I wanted to get it on thread before night close).
TL;DR
Contingency Lynch Paws
For forced back and forth with PBC, and then defending her the next day culminating in what looks like a failed attempt to save her from lynch by last second voting for Jboo to break the tie between them.
Unless there's a damn good reason not to and I mean DAMN good reason.
Next on the dockett would be Dubz if we think she's an unseerable wolf, AM, Coffee, and then to a minor extent ELF/LotF, then Cray, BBC, and then A/R/K in that order.
I in no way "lead" her lynch. I was the middle of the voting and then the people who voted her before me switched. Stop misconstruing what happened.I mean, you were stuck enough to lead her lynch and helped her die.
Paw’s quick progression of being on her lynch, to fighting and backing down, to trying to pull people off of her lynch, and trying to last second swing a tie to save PBC doesn’t bother you?@Melchizedek Paws has been telling me since the beginning of the game to kill PBC especially if she ever was to die. I don't think she does that as a wolf.
So you had no evidence proof or logic to saying it. Just feeling like it was a previous game? This is thin explanation. Not one I’m sure I buy.This is one of the of the things I told AM, that it reminded me of that game and to kill PBC if I got lynched due to PBC's big post.
I in no way "lead" her lynch. I was the middle of the voting and then the people who voted her before me switched. Stop misconstruing what happened.
Paw’s quick progression of being on her lynch, to fighting and backing down, to trying to pull people off of her lynch, and trying to last second swing a tie to save PBC doesn’t bother you?
And how many other people also voted for cray and jboo? Enough to get them both lynched. Villagers vote for villagers, and from my quick ISO the only people you've voted for were one-offs in no danger of actually being lynched.The last few jumping on the Cray lynch sketches me out. WZ, dolph, genny, Pippy. Would not be surprised if 1 flipped wolf.
WZ did you say you jumped to Cray because you would rather do a vote you didn’t agree with than avoid the potential of a wafflefest? That makes 0 sense.
I have Elf and as such LoTF leaning village based on the reaction to my PMs. I suspect wolf pack would have coached her through it without her posting on thread like she did if she was in the wolf chat.
WTF with the posting restrictions. I do not understand any of that, or DVMD’s vote switching. Is there any game players that would be indecisive as part of their role?
In regards to my silencing: I got silenced overnight, so I could talk up until night results came out. It WAS NOT an item on my end, and it DID NOT happen mid day. I haven’t had so much of a sniff of an item.
I then asked about PMing and liking posts, and was told I could PM but not like posts. If you want those quotes I can give them to you, but not really sure why they would be helpful.
Silencer can be village or wolf, I just find the way I was silenced and the timing suspicious, so in this game I’m thinking it is a wolfy role.
Something about game balance seems off. If we had protector, bodyguard, as well as 2 village rezzes*, and the bomber role that is awfully stacked against the wolves.
I don’t know why tf Coffee would claim protector early as a wolf, unless it is the 1 in a million game where the wolf is a protector. It’s dumb, because village basically always has a protector.
I don’t like that kcough was on the Cray lynch one day and the Jboo the next. I also reaalllyy don’t like that she voted for Jboo when it saved PBC the next day.
I also don’t think I’ve ever played Smash, maybe once at a party? You aren’t alone Paws!
Bryn, did you just announce you were vig on thread when you still had your shot left?!
Still suspicious of Ny, still suspicious of Stagg, now much more suspicious of kcough.
Eh, only asking about affiliation because as I said above, something seems off about balance.
"Leading" the vote = encouraging others to vote that way, building an argument why that person should be lynched, even starting a lynchwagon on someone.According to the final tally, you were leading the vote on her. That's just the facts ma'am.
"Leading" the vote = encouraging others to vote that way, building an argument why that person should be lynched, even starting a lynchwagon on someone.
Leading the vote does not equal at the final tally happening to be the first name on the list. Come-freaking-on.
I mentioned at the time I didnt like how inorganic the pbc bandwagon was and Jboo was one of my targets. Not knowing how ties operate, I assumed was doing everyone a favor.Paw’s quick progression of being on her lynch, to fighting and backing down, to trying to pull people off of her lynch, and trying to last second swing a tie to save PBC doesn’t bother you?
So you had no evidence proof or logic to saying it. Just feeling like it was a previous game? This is thin explanation. Not one I’m sure I buy.
@CoffeeQuestionMark speaking of swinging the tie away from PBC, wanna explain why I shouldn’t lynch you? (Woah I feel like I’ve said this before!)
No it's you saying things that aren't true in order to make other people look sketchy. And I'm looking at you.Why are you fixating on this so much? It is what it is. Who are you looking at today?
Also Bryn is dead (she got lynched, AFTER LITERALLY SHOOTING A WOLF ON THREAD AND YET NO ONE ON HER LYNCH FEELS SUSPICIOUS TO YOU?? - the logic here does not make sense)
No it's you saying things that aren't true in order to make other people look sketchy. And I'm looking at you.
I literally said why in the post you quoted. And in the previous post where I voted for you.And you're looking at me because...? If it for why I think it is, it's super hypocritical given what you're saying today.
I literally said why in the post you quoted. And in the previous post where I voted for you.