StardeWW 2: Ginger Island - GAME THREAD

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Sounds like a toddler fight is brewing
Be warned, my kid watches a lot of Ninja Kidz, lol

Did he? Who the **** decided I was an easy misvote at endgame?
Names of old who are sometimes heard as whispers in the wind...LIS...STL...DrRojo...probably some other people too

I got taken to endgame a lot because I was a choker, not because I was an easy misyeet (that has only happened at endgame twice).
And it was totally this, but to add to this I have only heard the legends. I think the only game I actually remember you wolfing in was the Pokemon Redux and I was so salty about being a g**d*** fisherman that I couldn't read anyone, lol.
 
Fine, I can consistently identify you when you're not village. You want to keep twisting things that's fine, but you're an easy read for me and you had a tell.
I'm entirely confused what this "tell" is given you ended almost every game saying I'm in my wolfrange. Including the infamous RvB. I want to say broken clock, but it seems you don't pull the trigger on me when I'm wolfing unless you already have 100% confirmation.
But if you'd killed me you'd have prolonged the game and risked losing since all of the remaining village voted for you or Doggo (aka the wolves). It was literally me and the 2 wolves on Cubz to end the game, you're welcome.
I was only killing you if you made it harder for the wolves. Domesticated 3p get to live. Feral ones are too dangerous to have around the public.
Because you weren't already in my wolf reads...:
Yes, a POE of six was a bit of a stretch for me to assume those were all strong wolf reads.
From my role PM the night you killed me:
I have no idea what these means, but I'll assume it's a flavor based thing that makes sense if you've watched the show.
So you're only going to count reads when someone pushes you first over other wolves and if you're suspected, checked out mechanically, and confirmed wolf the read doesn't count. Got it. Bottom line is you being non-village doesn't worry me and in games we've played where you wolfed I've figured you out.
Yes, someone being an "easy wolf read" means you can get there "easily." Without having to ask the mods first.

If needed to seer Lawpy every time he played, I'd never even bring it up.
 
Be warned, my kid watches a lot of Ninja Kidz, lol


Names of old who are sometimes heard as whispers in the wind...LIS...STL...DrRojo


And it was totally this, but to add to this I have only heard the legends. I think the only game I actually remember you wolfing in was the Pokemon Redux and I was so salty about being a g**d*** fisherman that I couldn't read anyone, lol.
Mine has been watching ninjago lately 😹
 
I'm shocked mine hasn't gotten into that or other lego stuff more considering how many scars the bottoms of my feet have...
Oh god dude tell me about it, a couple weeks ago I stepped on a piece from a stupid wooden car toy thing we have that screws together...my foot still hurts
 
I'm entirely confused what this "tell" is given you ended almost every game saying I'm in my wolfrange. Including the infamous RvB. I want to say broken clock, but it seems you don't pull the trigger on me when I'm wolfing unless you already have 100% confirmation.
You're a very strong villager and an extremely difficult push. A lot of people defend you unless there is 100% confirmation, and even then people in that game were doubting me after the reveal. It took a Cubz semi-angle shoot (he confirmed that mods hadn't responded to his PMs for 5+ hours as well and that I was probably being truthful about them being absent) to make people flip to you (and he still contingency voted me that night). Idr your tell, it had to do with how you responded to certain interactions we had, but idk if it would even be valid anymore.

I have no idea what these means, but I'll assume it's a flavor based thing that makes sense if you've watched the show.
It was, it inferred you were Derek Morgan (one of the agents), which I actually wasn't aware of myself and took the read to mean you were village initially in my PM (after I was dead). I've watched the show since and now would have known I should have read you as wolf.

Yes, someone being an "easy wolf read" means you can get there "easily." Without having to ask the mods first.
Bottom line is that I was able to tell when you weren't village. Believing/knowing something and proving it to the court to get a conviction are two completely different things, and you often have diplomatic immunity by nature of being AM.
 
You're a very strong villager and an extremely difficult push. A lot of people defend you unless there is 100% confirmation, and even then people in that game were doubting me after the reveal. It took a Cubz semi-angle shoot (he confirmed that mods hadn't responded to his PMs for 5+ hours as well and that I was probably being truthful about them being absent) to make people flip to you (and he still contingency voted me that night). Idr your tell, it had to do with how you responded to certain interactions we had, but idk if it would even be valid anymore.


It was, it inferred you were Derek Morgan (one of the agents), which I actually wasn't aware of myself and took the read to mean you were village initially in my PM (after I was dead). I've watched the show since and now would have known I should have read you as wolf.


Bottom line is that I was able to tell when you weren't village. Believing/knowing something and proving it to the court to get a conviction are two completely different things, and you often have diplomatic immunity by nature of being AM.
Well, again with the Lawpy comparison, but he rarely plays games that have seers (thankfully we have mostly done away with those crutches post-2019) so I have to come to a conclusion and convince people with no evidence but his posts on the thread, more often than not as a vanillager myself.

I don't have immunity simply for being AM. I sweated for it from working on improving myself nonstop for seven years. Even now, I'm far from perfect and have many more experiences to learn from.
 
is there post cap


Comedy Central Drinking GIF by Drunk History
 
Well, again with the Lawpy comparison, but he rarely plays games that have seers (thankfully we have mostly done away with those crutches post-2019) so I have to come to a conclusion and convince people with no evidence but his posts on the thread, more often than not as a vanillager myself.

I don't have immunity simply for being AM. I sweated for it from working on improving myself nonstop for seven years. Even now, I'm far from perfect and have many more experiences to learn from.
Not sure what the Lawpy comparison is, but I'm specifically referencing your play. The rigidity in wolfing (aka 'I never bus') limits your range and part of what made Friends such a weird game was that you were on a team of bussers and had to go along with it, which I think threw a lot of people off knowing that aspect of your wolfing. But you being as strong of a villager as you are combined with not bussing makes it very difficult to push you unless the right conditions exist on thread, which almost always involves another wolf already being flipped.

That's not a shot at you at all, but certain aspects of how you play both make you a harder push outside of certain situations and limit the range of how you can play when you're scum. ETA: which is part of why generally I feel more comfortable with my reads on you than I do with other players.
 
Not sure what the Lawpy comparison is, but I'm specifically referencing your play. The rigidity in wolfing (aka 'I never bus') limits your range and part of what made Friends such a weird game was that you were on a team of bussers and had to go along with it, which I think threw a lot of people off knowing that aspect of your wolfing. But you being as strong of a villager as you are combined with not bussing makes it very difficult to push you unless the right conditions exist on thread, which almost always involves another wolf already being flipped.
It's not "I never bus," it's "I never deepwolf." It just so happens that most of the bussing on SDN skews towards deepwolfing though, blurring the lines between the two. My playstyle simply isn't compatible with this style of play.

You need to be comfortable enough to get me before even one wolf flips. It shows you're independently able to read me and aren't waiting for associations that may never happen and are getting more and more fabricated and more and more planned to clear partners the longer the game goes on.

The Lawpy comparison is I consider him an easy read. It's to the point where I get uncomfortable pressure to share my read ASAP (sometimes in less than one cycle) and then people sheep it with little to no questioning. He's the only player I feel like I can do this for.
 
@Animal Midwife what are your strengths as town
I don't actually know. I lack insight to my playstyle regardless of my affiliation and I think that's one of my biggest handicaps.

I've been told my late game is better than my early game. Others may be able to give more concrete descriptions though.
 
It's not "I never bus," it's "I never deepwolf." It just so happens that most of the bussing on SDN skews towards deepwolfing though, blurring the lines between the two. My playstyle simply isn't compatible with this style of play.

You need to be comfortable enough to get me before even one wolf flips. It shows you're independently able to read me and aren't waiting for associations that may never happen and are getting more and more fabricated and more and more planned to clear partners the longer the game goes on.

The Lawpy comparison is I consider him an easy read. It's to the point where I get uncomfortable pressure to share my read ASAP (sometimes in less than one cycle) and then people sheep it with little to no questioning. He's the only player I feel like I can do this for.
I'm not saying I have issues with this, I'm saying that because of how most view you here you're nearly impossible to push without either another wolf having flipped or getting to at least mid-game without a wolf flip as many expect you to have caught a wolf by then. Convincing village to vote you out without those conditions was near impossible unless certain people were playing. I didn't aggressively push you in those games, but in other games where you were 3P I did, you just don't seem to want to consider those games.
 
Clearly you have never played with wolf!Dubz. She is not easy to catch.

Totally fine.
See that totally fine is why I’m the most village.
Last time I wolfed with you you picked it up like post 3. Which is why under normal circumstance i won’t read the role pm before post but the gap between role to open I couldn’t resist
 
It’s a one time thing and if players had it for quite a bit of time I think it’s probably +ev to still believe in that rule.
Oh. I turned it in last game we wolfed together 100%
I realize now I have to lead a wolf wagon
 
So regardless of what I say, you have your mind made up, and you’re crowd sourcing to see who will support you pushing my misyeet?
Shush saying D0= hard but I dunno why I’m not the viagiest villager ever. PSV says I’m fine = I’m fine
 
I vibed very quickly with samac in my only other game here, and I think I see the seedlings of that sprouting here. I say so tentatively, because my previous game had no Day 0 and communal aggression was more immediate (including on samac's part, so this is a different situation). But I think her start is decent enough, and if last game is any indication I suspect she'd be a motivated mayor.
I would be motivated.
And also village.
Appreciate it jimmy.
 
Because being able to trust the mayor is one of the more important things when selecting one.

So if the mayor catches a wolf and has the no bussing meta, its one hell of an easy way to gain good trust on the mayor, methinks.
I won’t bus this game.
Cause I’m village.
 
If you had the choice to have a Village mayor or a Wolf mayor, who would you choose?

And like, do you think a Wolf!Psv would be scared of having more 'scrutiny' when fooling people by tone if one of their fortes?
See this is why I think I could be a good
Mayor. I’m village AF
 
Why would you block someone because they are just mayor ¿?


I think mayor has a more 'on the spotlight' time, but that doesnt mean being RB'ed for free.
For wolves that wamt to go Under The Radar it could be bad, but I dont think you fit that type of wolf. Like at all
She not wolfy so far thi
 
last 2 town games i've been mafia n1 factional because of accurate reads + town leader

in game of champions i got mafia d1 vigged over mac/illario and everyone else

i think i'm a good option for mayor but also i won't particularly try to get it, just don't rule me out for it
Ew
 
Honestly I’ve seen village mayors make horrific decisions and get away with it because they were lock village through confirmation. Decisions that wolves would have made better just to try and not get investigated by town. So… pregnant shrug emoji. It’s a real crap shoot either way.

I do think the logic of your argument against PSV basically means she’d never get to be mayor, which I don’t think is fair.

I think she’s a good player and I think she’d do a good job as mayor and deserves a chance at the role.

And I can read her well enough that I’m not overly concerned about her potentially getting the role as a wolf.
I accidentally saved a wolf as village as mayor I my FIFTH game ever. I feel like I’m better now hur I was so oh no rip
I trust your real life ****
NO MORE
 
All these expensive campaigns for mayoral vote...Imma just promise that if you vote for me I won't make anyone go looking for my purple "shorts" in anyone else's room...
Im trunk. I’m going to leave it at this, I’m villlage. And can keep myself a live.
10/10 good mayor cvoice.
 
You're a very strong villager and an extremely difficult push. A lot of people defend you unless there is 100% confirmation, and even then people in that game were doubting me after the reveal. It took a Cubz semi-angle shoot (he confirmed that mods hadn't responded to his PMs for 5+ hours as well and that I was probably being truthful about them being absent) to make people flip to you (and he still contingency voted me that night). Idr your tell, it had to do with how you responded to certain interactions we had, but idk if it would even be valid anymore.


It was, it inferred you were Derek Morgan (one of the agents), which I actually wasn't aware of myself and took the read to mean you were village initially in my PM (after I was dead). I've watched the show since and now would have known I should have read you as wolf.


Bottom line is that I was able to tell when you weren't village. Believing/knowing something and proving it to the court to get a conviction are two completely different things, and you often have diplomatic immunity by nature of being AM.
Rip criminal minds. Me: *push am*
Game: you’re stupid. Lol *lose to am*
 
It's not "I never bus," it's "I never deepwolf." It just so happens that most of the bussing on SDN skews towards deepwolfing though, blurring the lines between the two. My playstyle simply isn't compatible with this style of play.

You need to be comfortable enough to get me before even one wolf flips. It shows you're independently able to read me and aren't waiting for associations that may never happen and are getting more and more fabricated and more and more planned to clear partners the longer the game goes on.

The Lawpy comparison is I consider him an easy read. It's to the point where I get uncomfortable pressure to share my read ASAP (sometimes in less than one cycle) and then people sheep it with little to no questioning. He's the only player I feel like I can do this for.
I just wanna note my bussing was missing one wolf from closet and the one I bussed asking to only live through N1 and to take them out D2 also asking what to say to survive 2/10 hated it
 
I jus wanna note I’m super village. If you feel like you can read me I’m a good choice. Others who want to Mayor ate whatever but I am the villagiest option imo.
I also have protection mechanisms. Take that as you will. I accept any investigative attention
I am intoxicated.
I will village hard.
And create a parsnip empire in favor of village


There’s my argument. I poge
You all. Samac 2022. Seer me. Thnx

Edit: samac 2023. Not 2022. Cannot math.
 
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Nick: did you pick up your phone to start werewolfin again?
Me: … yeh. Don’t judge me
Nick: well okay. Finish your wine. Still judged tho.
Me: okay fine. Champs tho?
Nick: no I’ll laugh
Me: bring it on, suckha
 
Oh. I turned it in last game we wolfed together 100%
I realize now I have to lead a wolf wagon
I know this was mentioned during that game, but the stakes are higher for clearing, actually. Your first vote was the bus on D2. I need multi-wolf leading pushes now (because my alternative criteria is unfair even if it is AI).
 
I just wanna note my bussing was missing one wolf from closet and the one I bussed asking to only live through N1 and to take them out D2 also asking what to say to survive 2/10 hated it
I'm aware. Again, I'm not shaming for it, but me screaming "never bus" to prevent/dissipate a wagon becomes meaningless if I try to force it on any player rather than labelling a style that comes naturally to the player. You've grown and it's silly for me to treat you like noob!samac.
 
I jus wanna note I’m super village. If you feel like you can read me I’m a good choice. Others who want to Mayor ate whatever but I am the villagiest option imo.
I also have protection mechanisms. Take that as you will. I accept any investigative attention
I am intoxicated.
I will village hard.
And create a parsnip empire in favor of village


There’s my argument. I poge
You all. Samac 2022. Seer me. Thnx

Edit: samac 2023. Not 2022. Cannot math.
This may be a meme but, for the people who have never played with mayor, do not seer them. Ever. Only elect people you can read correctly without needing an investigative. The first time I was mayor, I specifically became seer immune which was horrific and lead to me being perma-POE before village just lost altogether.
 
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