There's a WW in Michigan Game Thread

[vetmedhead]

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Well for instance pip basically led the charge against Dy and now you're saying she's a wolf? She might be but you have no evidence. Your play has been completely scattered and you sketchy af. How's that? Ferny is now Beautiful Bodacious Cutie

I always thought she was a big black broadcasting channel or something like that

 

[DVMDream]

Yes? If it annoys you that much then sure. Didn't realize it was a big deal.

But I'm going to need to hear something nice about Michigan.

Michigan has tits.

 

[KCgophervet]

Wait wasn't that EXACTLY what you pulled when Cray nailed us for wolves in Little Mermaid 🤣

I want to say yes. And I managed to live for at least a day beyond that. It was ridiculous, and also why I couldn't ignore it today.

 

[vetmedhead]

Michigan has tits.

In it, on it, or around it? Over it? Under it? In a bow nearby it?

 

[Crayola227]

It's going to be pretty sad for you guys to lynch me day 2, given what my ability is. It's nothing too special but it's a decent one for village. But go for it. I can't sit here and defend until 7 pm.

Listen to the rezz'd ex-seer, who I highly doubt came back with her ability or affiliation. Unless the wolves knew for sure she didn't come back a seer, they would kill her, even if they thought as a rezzed villager her sketchtasticness would be good cover. If we believe Cowgirl, there's only 2 left, not counting any possible converts. They couldn't afford to let her live just for cover. Not when you have me instead.

I would kill a rez over someone you guys find sketch mostly for noob mistakes.

Never mind all the quiet people. Chances are far higher that's where your wolves are.

 

[finnickthedog]

Michigan has tits.

😍 It's true, we do.

 

[Crayola227]

I want to say yes. And I managed to live for at least a day beyond that. It was ridiculous, and also why I couldn't ignore it today.

I tried to get them to lynch you, and they wouldn't. Nevermind I nailed 3/4, IIRC.

I'm actually better at this game than people think, besides not managing to come off so sketchy that I'm up for lynch almost on the daily, or my word counts making eyes bleed.

 

[Crayola227]

No that's basically what a wolf would do too. What happened to the vast amusement you got out of me trying to kill you before? 😀

Cheez =

It's still hilarious. It will be hilarious because it will be like the Allie lynch all over again. Just pure village stupidity.

 

[jaboo]

Leela wanted to play WW, too. She's obviously bored by it.

 

[vetmedhead]

It's going to be pretty sad for you guys to lynch me day 2, given what my ability is. It's nothing too special but it's a decent one for village. But go for it. I can't sit here and defend until 7 pm.

Listen to the rezz'd ex-seer, who I highly doubt came back with her ability or affiliation. Unless the wolves knew for sure she didn't come back a seer, they would kill her, even if they thought as a rezzed villager her sketchtasticness would be good cover. If we believe Cowgirl, there's only 2 left, not counting any possible converts. They couldn't afford to let her live just for cover. Not when you have me instead.

I would kill a rez over someone you guys find sketch mostly for noob mistakes.

Never mind all the quiet people. Chances are far higher that's where your wolves are.

Frankly when people try to play the guilt trip card for getting lynched it makes me want to lynch them more.

 

[JustPaws]

Feeling is mutual, friend. I'll stop tunneling on you. But really I was having pause about your lynch. I'm also skimming at work so I'm missing posts.

Exactly this. Just getting caught up and feeling confirmed with my suspicions. Still weary of FTB though...

Lynch Cray

 

[cowgirl92]

What is out of service? I thought it was for players that had a mod-confirmed reason to be absent the game.

Or, is this me being an idiot again? I didn't know it was a place in Michigan. How did Mel get there? Was he there in the last write up and I missed it??? I don't think so.

Why would this kill be accompanied by this change?

I asked about Out of Service because I wasn't sure either and its just another group according to the mods.

 

[Coopah]

Don't worry crayons I'm sure we'll all learn our lesson eventually it takes a few tries for it to sink in. But you still needs to be dead now.

 

[jaboo]

What is out of service? I thought it was for players that had a mod-confirmed reason to be absent the game.

Or, is this me being an idiot again? I didn't know it was a place in Michigan. How did Mel get there? Was he there in the last write up and I missed it??? I don't think so.

Why would this kill be accompanied by this change?

Mel was there at the beginning of the day I think.

 

[jaboo]

Exactly this. Just getting caught up and feeling confirmed with my suspicions. Still weary of FTB though...

Lynch Cray

FTB is next on my list, too.

 

[fromthebox]

Hydrated. I remember that thread!


I’m in and out ‘cause it’s my dad’s birthday. Dy - you got me. Sneaky!!

The thread stuff I was alluding to earlier relates to whose posts Cray has to like. There’s a pattern and I don’t know what it means. She catches up on thread and likes the needed ones.


I don’t know how it scans Wolffy vs village but it’s def going on.


Greeny got un-silenced and has not said much since.


There are about 10 people playing this game, where is everyone else?

 

[Animal Midwife]

Greeny got un-silenced and has not said much since.

What?

 

[mmmdreamerz]

Mel is starting to make sense to me. I don't know why Pippy hasn't addressed what he said fully. The way I see it, one of them has to be a wolf.

I'm going to come off Mel and onto Pippy

unlynch Mel

lynch Pippy

Part of me hopes you aren’t a wolf, because this was a bad move if you are. Definitely doesn’t help your villager case when people were already suspicious.

 

[PippyPony]

Listen to the rezz'd ex-seer, who I highly doubt came back with her ability or affiliation. Unless the wolves knew for sure she didn't come back a seer, they would kill her, even if they thought as a rezzed villager her sketchtasticness would be good cover. If we believe Cowgirl, there's only 2 left, not counting any possible converts. They couldn't afford to let her live just for cover.

So, are you saying that I am guaranteed not village because otherwise the wolves would have killed me again? When would they have killed me, pray tell?

(Other than tonight, I mean, because I can virtually guarantee I am going to be re-dead tonight lol)

 

[mmmdreamerz]

It's going to be pretty sad for you guys to lynch me day 2, given what my ability is. It's nothing too special but it's a decent one for village. But go for it. I can't sit here and defend until 7 pm.

Do tell how it’s so helpful for village...

 

[Crayola227]

Frankly when people try to play the guilt trip card for getting lynched it makes me want to lynch them more.

Lol, that's the thing about my gameplay. As a villager I don't worry about trying not to sound like a wolf. I mean, I've tried because people get upset, but people find me sketch no matter what I try, so I gotta just be me.

I was much more conservative as a wolf, something which people used to tag me. I talked out of it, but ask @Jilary because she seemed the only one who was never really fooled in the slightest. Unless she's a wolf this game trying to mislynch me. Not that I think that's likely, but ya never know.

Could I, with only one more game under my belt (and I died D1) have figured out a new master wolf strategy that plays on being totally wolftastic in a new flavor? All while not seeming my usual villager self? By coming up with bizarre mistakes? Playing as a wolf cub dropped on her head, on purpose??

 

[jaboo]

The way Pippy is acting, and backing off of Mel, makes me wonder if she was rezz'd as something other than village. We'll see if the rezzer comes forward as the day goes on.

Just went back and re-read the comments at the beginning of the day. Curious how you didn't put pressure on Pippy until AFTER I made comments about dy (which were right as it turns out). Makes you look awfully wolfy now.

 

[PippyPony]

Do tell how it’s so helpful for village...

inb4 she is wolf redirector lol

 

[mmmdreamerz]

Lynch Cray

 

[Crayola227]

So, are you saying that I am guaranteed not village because otherwise the wolves would have killed me again? When would they have killed me, pray tell?

(Other than tonight, I mean, because I can virtually guarantee I am going to be re-dead tonight lol)

Didn't really finish that thought. Point is, until you are re-deaded, you can't be trusted. We can let you live, let you do evil tonight, and see that you're alive in the AM, and me (a villager) dead, then village has to lynch you tomorrow. Unless you talk yourself out of why the wolves let you live. Which is easy for a rez to do sometimes. The only way to trust you is if you are dead.

 

[mmmdreamerz]

inb4 she is wolf redirector lol

Totally missed it. That’s what I get for skimming on my phone lol. Apparently need to go back farther...

 

[PippyPony]

Didn't really finish that thought. Point is, until you are re-deaded, you can't be trusted. We can let you live, let you do evil tonight, and see that you're alive in the AM, and me (a villager) dead, then village has to lynch you tomorrow. Unless you talk yourself out of why the wolves let you live. Which is easy for a rez to do sometimes. The only way to trust you is if you are dead.

 

[Crayola227]

Just went back and re-read the comments at the beginning of the day. Curious how you didn't put pressure on Pippy until AFTER I made comments about dy (which were right as it turns out). Makes you look awfully wolfy now.

I don't even know what those comments were

I said from the start that Pippy was suspicious, and I didn't go into all the "rezzes are evil stuff" because I was convinced Mel was wolf. He's not exactly off my list, but Pippy's behavior has changed since she came back, and she's gone from calling for his blood to hardly even willing to answer a direct question that might clear him. I thought his defense was decent enough, and all of the above led me to Pippy.

 

[Crayola227]

Also people glossed over the part where Pippy was miscontruing what I was saying so much that it actually felt like she was lying. That was the giant wall o' quotes I posted.

 

[cowgirl92]

Now I'm really confused. Just went back and read Mel's D1 comments about dy and it certainly takes a lot of my suspicion off Mel. I'm not sure what to think anymore.

 

[vetmedhead]

Didn't really finish that thought. Point is, until you are re-deaded, you can't be trusted. We can let you live, let you do evil tonight, and see that you're alive in the AM, and me (a villager) dead, then village has to lynch you tomorrow. Unless you talk yourself out of why the wolves let you live. Which is easy for a rez to do sometimes. The only way to trust you is if you are dead.

The problem with logic like this is that it makes it easy for wolves to drive village lynches if your theory is wrong. All they have to do is not kill the person that someone else made a big stink about lynching the next day if they aren't killed overnight. It's why wolf teams commonly leave villagers that everyone thinks would be good targets around for a long time - makes em easy to lynch later because now it's suspicious they haven't died by now.

 

[Crayola227]

inb4 she is wolf redirector lol

Totally missed it. That’s what I get for skimming on my phone lol. Apparently need to go back farther...

More of the same from Pippy. Whenever she's being suspected, she turns to me. You can see it earlier in the thread.

In any case, I never said anything of the sort.

 

[PippyPony]

I don't even know what those comments were

I said from the start that Pippy was suspicious, and I didn't go into all the "rezzes are evil stuff" because I was convinced Mel was wolf. He's not exactly off my list, but Pippy's behavior has changed since she came back, and she's gone from calling for his blood to hardly even willing to answer a direct question that might clear him. I thought his defense was decent enough, and all of the above led me to Pippy.

Please read these bolded parts. They lead down opposite directions of a logic tree.

Plus the first one is still predicated on you thinking I was sketchy before I died as the village seer.

 

[fromthebox]

What?

Genny? Autocorrect/name confusion. The one with the MSU avatar that literally popped on to say “glad you figured out I couldn’t speak” and then did nada.


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[Crayola227]

The problem with logic like this is that it makes it easy for wolves to drive village lynches if your theory is wrong. All they have to do is not kill the person that someone else made a big stink about lynching the next day if they aren't killed overnight. It's why wolf teams commonly leave villagers that everyone thinks would be good targets around for a long time - makes em easy to lynch later because now it's suspicious they haven't died by now.

I totally agree. I like, I think it's STL's or LIS' or a veteran's rule, "If it doesn't die, kill it twice. If it comes back, kill it again."

I don't care how any of it looks on me. I know I'm villager, and all I can do is say what I think. I'm not going to back off of who I think is a wolf. I'm with Jonny that with Dy's death, Mel's defense, and Pippy's rez, that something is rotten in the state of Michigan and it isn't Mel.

 

[PippyPony]

Totally missed it. That’s what I get for skimming on my phone lol. Apparently need to go back farther...

(was joke. I have no idea if she is this, other than the fact that I thought dy's explanation of redirection was awfully specific lol)

 

[KCgophervet]

Didn't really finish that thought. Point is, until you are re-deaded, you can't be trusted. We can let you live, let you do evil tonight, and see that you're alive in the AM, and me (a villager) dead, then village has to lynch you tomorrow. Unless you talk yourself out of why the wolves let you live. Which is easy for a rez to do sometimes. The only way to trust you is if you are dead.

There's virtually zero chance wolves will kill you if village finds you sketchy.

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[mmmdreamerz]

(was joke. I have no idea if she is this, other than the fact that I thought dy's explanation of redirection was awfully specific lol)

Lol good because I couldn’t find any such info, even suggestion anywhere. God I must be tired lol

 

[mmmdreamerz]

Dy reads like dy every time I play with her.
I feel like kcoughli is up to something but I don't know what. I had an item and used it but it didn't tell me anything (item limitations, not anything player specific/actually wolfy). I don't fully understand the original Mel issue but he feels odd to me. I feel cray is vanilla-y but don't have any strong backup for that. My PM partner is an absolute newbie and is generally real quiet. Which feels odd to me.

There are other patterns and details I can see but don't want to talk about as they don't give me a wolf/not wolf read and may give others more info by me talking bout it.

Just reminding myself of this post if cray flips wolf

 

[Crayola227]

I have the sort of ability that can backfire for wolves. That's all I'll say, because honestly more info will not help villagers if they're set on lynching me anyway. If for some reason I live, then divulging exactly how this ability backfires for them will only help them to avoid that.

 

[KCgophervet]

Also wanted to pop in and say I could believe Dy was actually redirected. Teep would be a non-ideal wolf target as he hasn't been around much.

Another point to make me think the redirector is likely not a wolf.

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[mmmdreamerz]

I have the sort of ability that can backfire for wolves. That's all I'll say, because honestly more info will not help villagers if they're set on lynching me anyway. If for some reason I live, then divulging exactly how this ability backfires for them will only help them to avoid that.

Usually I’m all about not revealing too much, but this is oozing sketch

 

[Crayola227]

There's virtually zero chance wolves will kill you if village finds you sketchy.

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Yep, so the only way to be safe from a rez is to lynch them. Otherwise the village just turns in circles, or worse, lets evil walk among them unopposed.

 

[fromthebox]

I can’t believe none of you geniuses noticed I had a posting restriction yesterday.

One post and NO follow up.



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[vetmedhead]

I totally agree. I like, I think it's STL's or LIS' or a veteran's rule, "If it doesn't die, kill it twice. If it comes back, kill it again."

I don't care how any of it looks on me. I know I'm villager, and all I can do is say what I think. I'm not going to back off of who I think is a wolf. I'm with Jonny that with Dy's death, Mel's defense, and Pippy's rez, that something is rotten in the state of Michigan and it isn't Mel.

I... don't think you're actually agreeing with the point I made in my post. But I digress

 

[Crayola227]

Usually I’m all about not revealing too much, but this is oozing sketch

Only works if they don't know about it. You'll see why at my autopsy.

 

[KCgophervet]

Yep, so the only way to be safe from a rez is to lynch them. Otherwise the village just turns in circles, or worse, lets evil walk among them unopposed.

Don't get me wrong, I don't fully disagree with lynching zombies. However, typically resurrections are villagers and right now, I'd err on the side that pip came back village.

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[vetmedhead]

Only works if they don't know about it. You'll see why at my autopsy.

Seems like it won't work particularly well if you're dead either

 

[jaboo]

So do all lynches reset after dy's death? Or just ones that were directed at dy? Updated lynch tally would be much appreciated when someone gets a chance.

 

[vetmedhead]

Don't get me wrong, I don't fully disagree with lynching zombies. However, typically resurrections are villagers and right now, I'd err on the side that pip came back village.

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Yeah, this feels a bit like convert hunting even though we still have originals lurking about that we really should look for