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kcoughli said:
Literally just went and opened all my old spreadsheets from when I was more motivated and only 2 games had redirectors and both were village (HP by k-dubs and Trilt's faves). So... :shrug:
Possible? Of course. Very often? I wouldn't say so. It feels like a sketch ability, which I think is why it's so often a village one.
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Seems unfair, too, since the wolves already know who the villagers and wolves are. The redirect role can be good for gathering intel and creating chaos, so it's almost too powerful in wolf hands. Not that you couldn't balance it.

I think the plan was to balance out the wolf double kill thing with vig items. Like, I wouldn't be surprised, if what Dy said about it being a more than one time only thing.
 
SkiOtter said:
LYNCH CLOSED

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Day 3 Lynch Tally
staff () -
SoFlo (3) - Lyra, kata, Fern
Mel (2) - Sporty, Jil
Cray (9) - Kara, Coop, Pippy, jboo, Paws, 3m, DVMD, Snowy, Cray
Pippy () -
genny (2) - kc, vmh
kc (1) - FTB
Coop (1) - SoFlo
FTB (2) - cowgirl, genny
Snowy (2) - Mel, AM

CHECK YO VOTEZ
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Did not realize it was already 9pm in the correct time zone of the world.
 
DVMDream said:
Meh, dy is being normal dy to me this far. But it has been a while since I've played with her.
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I said yesterday that I thought only 1 of Dy/DVMD would be a wolf so DVMD leans village to me now.

fromthebox said:
I was thinking maybe a modkill. No other theories yet.
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I can see this as being an early excuse for the second kill to direct away from Dy. Though he could have just not read the
Melchizedek said:
Wolf
DVMD
KC

Wolfish
Snowy
Dy
Gryff
Cowgirl
Jil

Villageish
Kara
AM
Crayola

Village
Pippy
BBC
Staff
SP

Everyone else is either null or I don't have enough info to form an opinion on.


Other thoughts

Snowy my case for snowy was built around her being hedgey, she’s made some decent analysis since my last comments on her and it makes me double check my read.

Dy - I’m back to thinking Dy is wolfy now that DVMD seems to be hard preaching her meta. Right after “putting the nail” in a villager’s coffin, turning around and vouching for someone that has been tunneling on a now confirmed villager?

Really want DVMD, Jil, and Coops talking because they all either voted or posted support confirm the Allieh lynch.

AM started out village to me based on her meta, but she’s been sheeping my vote the past two days now and its setting off alarms

SP is coming off the same way that she did last game. Asking questions, just a tad clueless, a little emotion tinged in her posts whenever all-hell-breaks-loose in the game

ETA: Michigan has beautiful views
I'm having a hard time with this post restriction.
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I can't remember why I quoted this.

SnowshoeDog143 said:
Okay I'm going with pippy here on the mel lynch. I don't know if I agree though that if he is a wolf, that cray isn't. Cray is still near the top of my list and looking at paws comments earlier on her also make me want to crack that craycray egg. Genny has had no useful comments so far, which makes me think she's either a vanillager or a wolf, when she has an ability she is usually more thoughtful and less jokey (I think). Gryff is hard to read beneath the noob. 3m is disappeared which is probably more villagey then wolfy and she is probably soon to be modkilled if she doesn't show up, but just noting that she wasn't around today. dy I'm reading as tunnelling village, I get where the votes for her are coming from though, but if she plays this way normally per others probably not voting there today. if mel is a wolf I would look at boo. dvmd has too many pages of posts I didn't feel like going through them today so no feels one way or another for her today. Everyone else is either neutral or village leaning and not top concern rn.
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Could be taken as a soft defense for Dy. Causing me some side-eye.

fromthebox said:
Dy reads like dy every time I play with her.
I feel like kcoughli is up to something but I don't know what. I had an item and used it but it didn't tell me anything (item limitations, not anything player specific/actually wolfy). I don't fully understand the original Mel issue but he feels odd to me. I feel cray is vanilla-y but don't have any strong backup for that. My PM partner is an absolute newbie and is generally real quiet. Which feels odd to me.

There are other patterns and details I can see but don't want to talk about as they don't give me a wolf/not wolf read and may give others more info by me talking bout it.
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Throwing some shade towards Mel when Dy was in the lead. Kinda feel like this could have been her trying to steer lynch away from Dy.

dyachei said:
Yes. Because I also think melch is a wolf
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This post was when she tried to get lynch to go towards Mel and not her; this is part of the reasons combined with the D1 stuff that I chose to switch my lynch vote today.

johnnaboo said:
Even before the question of Pippy's role after rez, I still think both Mel and dy are good options to go for today. Mel wasn't on my radar until the switch off of allie at the last minute. Twas weird. And dy I was always weirded out by.

Totally down for a tie between those two today as well.
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You are making a lot of sense for a brand new player... I think you are making good contributions but the paranoid part of me is wondering if you have some help behind-the-scenes for how you are playing.

Jilary said:
But if they are both wolves, does it really matter which one dies today? I'd like to lynch one today and the other tomorrow. Now if you are concerned neither will die in the lynch, that is pretty valid.
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When I quoted this I was sketching about Jil, but her more recent posts disregarded the thing that was bugging me. Disregard.

katashark said:
There could be an odd night vig, I've had even/odd power players for village before in games I've run. But, it could also be a way to limit the "unlimited" nights of shooting for balance?
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Could be construed as trying to help out Dy. Will be watching.

Crayola227 said:
I feel like Mel otherwise would know better than to sound that confident, using something as flimsy as villager code, especially when the mods said not to and he seems very aware of methods they have around it being any use.
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He never answer the question...

Coopah said:
Interesting snowypoo looks like the redirecter to me, I'm probs wrong but eh.
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If the redirector is village I don't think announcing this was a good move. However, I'm still not convinced the redirector is village because I don't buy the reasons behind redirector using their ability on Pip N1. So if you think Snowy is redirector I would be willing to test that lynch, or at least put some pressure on her tomorrow to see what is going on.

Crayola227 said:
wonder how you got it... an item that's getting passed around, maybe?

wonder how it plays into the Michigan mythos of the game
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Clearly Cray didn't get an items so far this game.
 
The tourists have spoken. They decided crayons was too craycraycrazy and tossed her out of the tour bus, saddening this mod.

You have lynched @Crayola227, Bronner's Christmas Wonderland (a.k.a Ski's personal Heaven), a villager who could survive one night kill attempt.


The tour must go on! It is now Night 3. 22 players remain. Deadline for night actions is 1 am EST, but we would appreciate it if they were in sooner.




Upper Peninsula “The Yoopers”
1. @genny
2. @fromthebox
3. @SoFloGryffindor
6. @Coopah
7. @mmmdreamerz
9. @vetmedhead
10. @johnnaboo

Mackinac Bridge “Mighty Mac”
11. @DVMDream
13. @PippyPony
14. @cowgirl92
16. @SportPonies

Lower Peninsula “The Trolls”
18. @Jilary
19. @Animal Midwife
20. @Karabiner13
21. @katashark
23. @SnowshoeDog143
24. @kcoughli
25. @staff_wielder
26. @TheGirlWithTheFernTattoo
27. @StayingPositive2017

Out of Service
12. @Melchizedek
28. @LyraGardenia

Hell, Michigan
17. greeneyegal92 - Buckeyes
22. allieh8607 - Lake Erie
4. LetItSnow - Sault Ste Marie, MI
5. Teepster87 - The Henry Ford
8. dyachei - Construction
15. Crayola227 - Bronner's Christmas Wonderland
 
Melchizedek said:
Oh well in that case :naughty:


It was a dumba** move because by your own logic of there has to be a wolf in cowgirl/me/Pippy and me being cleared, the logical vote would have been Cowgirl because Pippy is the one who practically drove the Dy lynch today. Highly doubtful that she came back rezzed as a wolf and then proceeded to bus a fellow wolf when she could have stuck to lynching me and driving that wagon based on how suspect I was.

If Cray DOES flip wolf I'd be strongly convinced that Cowgirl is worth lynching next because this could have been cray not thinking and reactively lynching Pippy because the other option was a wolf-buddy.

Also the gif was in reference to any game that you were a redirector regardless of alignment, you consistently made **** hit the fan and made me want to duck and cover haha

Michigan good
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Wait a second when and where were you "cleared"???? Legitimate question.
 
Crayola227 said:
No, my point is that wolves should not underestimate a redirector and let them live because they seem sketch and kick up chaos. My point was look how much damage a neutral redirector did to wolves.

So message to wolves: kill the redirector. I think it's Snowy.
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What the heck?! Seriously if I had seen this before close I would have switched to you. If you are actually village that is a pretty horrible attitude to play with.
 
TheGirlWithTheFernTattoo said:
You are making a lot of sense for a brand new player... I think you are making good contributions but the paranoid part of me is wondering if you have some help behind-the-scenes for how you are playing.
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LOL. You're the second person to tell me that today. It's certainly an ego boost! Not getting any behind-the-scenes help other than the gracious VMH who answered some embarrassing noob questions for me on D1.
 
I appreciate that my nicknames have lived on! I'm gonna contingency lynch SoFlo because I asked for info in PM (after I shot DY and explained I was cleared) and instead they lynched me. I'd love to hear more from FTB but I doubt it'll happen, then I'd love more reasoning from AM so she can't just hide behind questioning everybody to look village.
 
contingency lynch paws

iso'ing posts I've seen very little in the way of thoughts on other players. Only ones I can think of were FTB and cray. Lot of posts that look like they are contributing by being helpful
 
DVMDream said:
Wait a second when and where were you "cleared"???? Legitimate question.
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Strong wording I guess, but I meant that there's a good reason to believe I'm not wolfy seeing the way Dy flipped

ETA: Michigan good

I also wanted to say that my earlier comment about you getting under my skin was about WW. Our other interactions online have been pretty fun.
 
TheGirlWithTheFernTattoo said:
I said yesterday that I thought only 1 of Dy/DVMD would be a wolf so DVMD leans village to me now.


I can see this as being an early excuse for the second kill to direct away from Dy. Though he could have just not read the

I can't remember why I quoted this.


Could be taken as a soft defense for Dy. Causing me some side-eye.


Throwing some shade towards Mel when Dy was in the lead. Kinda feel like this could have been her trying to steer lynch away from Dy.


This post was when she tried to get lynch to go towards Mel and not her; this is part of the reasons combined with the D1 stuff that I chose to switch my lynch vote today.


You are making a lot of sense for a brand new player... I think you are making good contributions but the paranoid part of me is wondering if you have some help behind-the-scenes for how you are playing.


When I quoted this I was sketching about Jil, but her more recent posts disregarded the thing that was bugging me. Disregard.


Could be construed as trying to help out Dy. Will be watching.


He never answer the question...


If the redirector is village I don't think announcing this was a good move. However, I'm still not convinced the redirector is village because I don't buy the reasons behind redirector using their ability on Pip N1. So if you think Snowy is redirector I would be willing to test that lynch, or at least put some pressure on her tomorrow to see what is going on.


Clearly Cray didn't get an items so far this game.
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I have nothing firm on Snowy, just gut feels. We have so many options for lynches lol I love the bolded in particular
 
Sorry I missed pretty much all of today, guys. I was driving home and then went to see Star Wars (which was awesome btw!). I'll do an actual catch-up tomorrow, but I'm genuinely surprised to see dy was a wolf, she had me fooled. (Again, keep in mind I haven't read most of today, so if she made an obvious slip-up that led to her getting vig'd, I missed it).

Coopah said:
Lyra is now liar 😉 cause I think she's wolfy
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Based on what?? My reads haven't been great so far, but I'll get back to making an effort tomorrow. Also, you're welcome for the posting restriction. 😉
 
Just realized 3M is playing, and don't really remember anything about him (?) this game. Gonna iso that.
Still don't like FTB. Will do reads in the morning.
 
Karabiner13 said:
contingency lynch paws

iso'ing posts I've seen very little in the way of thoughts on other players. Only ones I can think of were FTB and cray. Lot of posts that look like they are contributing by being helpful
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ouch. i thought i did a big reads on sunday and then i worked today and things were so crazy with dy and mel that i got lost in the thread. as stated I will do reads tomorrow
 
LyraGardenia said:
Sorry I missed pretty much all of today, guys. I was driving home and then went to see Star Wars (which was awesome btw!). I'll do an actual catch-up tomorrow, but I'm genuinely surprised to see dy was a wolf, she had me fooled. (Again, keep in mind I haven't read most of today, so if she made an obvious slip-up that led to her getting vig'd, I missed it).


Based on what?? My reads haven't been great so far, but I'll get back to making an effort tomorrow. Also, you're welcome for the posting restriction. 😉
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Ah that was you? I thought it might've been the item I had that killed Dy. Interdasting....
 
genny said:
Are you also responsible for mine? I'd like to know what made you pick that one, if you are.
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Yup, it was based off my role name. I was disappointed it was too subtle for anyone else to pick up on. :laugh:

TheGirlWithTheFernTattoo said:
Lyra why did you choose Coop for the posting restriction?
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I don't get to choose who they go to, it's random.
 
Melchizedek said:
I also wanted to say that my earlier comment about you getting under my skin was about WW. Our other interactions online have been pretty fun.
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Oh, I know, that's why I said "my friend"... I don't take things personally in ww it is a game.

Also aren't we free of being nice to Michigan??
 
DVMDream said:
Oh, I know, that's why I said "my friend"... I don't take things personally in ww it is a game.

Also aren't we free of being nice to Michigan??
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LOL thanks for reminding me. That was a gorram PITA.
 
Coopah said:
So you just choose what post restriction to send out? That's all?
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Yup. Hence why I've been trying to make them just amusing and not limiting to actual discussion, since I can't choose to send them to people I think are sketchy. Genny's restriction was that she had to apologize for something in every post.
 
StayingPositive2017 said:
Except that we've established the possibility that wolves might have cover roles ala previous Finn games, so unless Finn gave them cover roles that aren't real cover roles, then what good does this do?
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Considering there hasn't been anything mentioned in write-ups about the dead wolves having cover roles, I think it is probably only going to be one or two that does (if any, but with the role names so far it makes sense that at least 1 does). In all the games I've played the cover roles are posted when they die.

I need to book it out of here now since I'm going out tonight. However I want to look into whoever pushed Pippy today. Also would like to hear more from Gryff and FTB.
 
@Animal Midwife if you want to chat feel free. I know you opened the chat, but you haven’t said anything past the initial message, and well, it was on a day that I had zero time. I think @StayingPositive2017 can confirm she has sent significantly more messages than I have.
 
Jilary said:
@Animal Midwife if you want to chat feel free. I know you opened the chat, but you haven’t said anything past the initial message, and well, it was on a day that I had zero time. I think @StayingPositive2017 can confirm she has sent significantly more messages than I have.
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I sent 7 messages, Jil sent 6, my messages were longer usually in content but not all the time. Not really sure how this info helps or hurts either of us, but there you go AM. You've pmed with me before so I imagine you know what I'm like. No idea what Jil is like but she did state she is less of a pm'er
 
Melchizedek said:
That was a gorram PITA.
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GOOD. THATS WHAT YOU GET FOR BREAKING DA RULES.

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