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And not killing outed power roles seems super veteran to you? As far as I knew you came back powerless.

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Elaborating further -- curious that you would assume I came back powerless when someone was fishing for info about that.

Same someone who I told to get Mel lynched if I died.

Makes me wonder if there is actually a little communication loop going on
 
Interesting, how would you know that?

I did tell someone in PM that I came back powerless
In my role flair I bring back my two dead kids as islands. I have no idea if you'd come back with or without powers. I mostly was banking on you having results from the night you died (plus being the first villager that died and generally being active and a good player).

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Can someone tell me the order of operations for night actions?
 
Can you clarify the second half of this and why you think it is more realistic now? Because this whole post looks like it is designed to throw shade on the two rezzes. And I personally am of the opinion that KC was probably village up through the time she submitted the second rez.

I think its a legitimate point now that we know there is a convert. In the last 5 games I've played or watched, the rezzes are the convert, and I stated that several days ago, re: KC and Teep winning their games.
 
Continually? You were redirected last night, were there more redirections? Why not come out with that earlier?
How do you know for sure I was only redirected last night?

I didn't get results the night before, so I could very well have been redirected then and not notified.

Of course, unless you know who the redirector has been redirecting...
 
I think its a legitimate point now that we know there is a convert. In the last 5 games I've played or watched, the rezzes are the convert, and I stated that several days ago, re: KC and Teep winning their games.
And I have repeatedly encouraged you all to lynch us after dealing with originals. Don't even have to hunt for converts if you're so certain we are the droids you're looking for.

Why are you not looking for original wolves?
 
Elaborating further -- curious that you would assume I came back powerless when someone was fishing for info about that.

Same someone who I told to get Mel lynched if I died.

Makes me wonder if there is actually a little communication loop going on
Literally did not know or care if you came back with or without powers. I somewhat assumed based on mod flair and the fact I got two rezzes to mean you'd come back vanilla.

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And I have repeatedly encouraged you all to lynch us after dealing with originals. Don't even have to hunt for converts if you're so certain we are the droids you're looking for.

Why are you not looking for original wolves?
I know I'm new, but a wolf is a wolf. If I think you (which I already said I don't) or LIS replacement are wolves I should lynch there. Especially if I'm having trouble figuring out who else is a wolf. How many original wolves do we think are left anyways?
 
If this is true I'm more inclined to believe the redirector is wolfy rather than village.

Still find it weird that they would redirect on the same night as killing.

Was Kara voicing strong opinions about someone?

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I thought it was pretty obvious from d2 the redirector was a wolf.
Can someone tell me the order of operations for night actions?
Depends on the mod.
 
I know I'm new, but a wolf is a wolf. If I think you (which I already said I don't) or LIS replacement are wolves I should lynch there. Especially if I'm having trouble figuring out who else is a wolf. How many original wolves do we think are left anyways?
You should not lynch rezzes purely off of weak mechanics speculation at the expense of actually looking for wolves via solid wolf hunting tactics like post analysis. Super duper wolfy thing to do, actually. Congratulations, as of this morning you have shot up my sketch list after not even being on it.

I would imagine there are 3, although I'm not sure how much I trust cowgirls result at this current moment
 
Mmmk not sure I buy that
Hang on, so in your scenario I'm a wolf, who was told by another wolf that you're powerless, and together we decided to redirect you??

In what world does that logic even follow.

Pippy either you're tunneling harder than usual for you or you're wolfy trying to buy cred for yourself by getting me killed (confirming a village res).

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Well.....if I'd gotten back early probably would have ended up on the FTB vote because of the item weirdness. My reads have been crap apparently all game so idk where to go from here.
This feels so wolfy to me. Can we please Lynch mel now?
 
Hang on, so in your scenario I'm a wolf, who was told by another wolf that you're powerless, and together we decided to redirect you??

In what world does that logic even follow.

Pippy either you're tunneling harder than usual for you or you're wolfy trying to buy cred for yourself by getting me killed (confirming a village res).

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Definitely does not count as tunneling yet -- I've only been questioning you for about 30 minutes. Come back to me in 6 hours 😛
 
I didn't. And I explained why then as well. They were using the same tactics Crayola did in the game she took out or exposed basically the entire wolf pack.

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Redirecting people who you suspect of having a power role is kinda stupid imo. You are limiting the function of those roles. Which are, like, important roles. Hence why they are called power roles.

ETA: Crayola got lucky in that game. It happens. She is not a magic redirector who has suddenly discovered a breakthrough strategy for using the ability.
 
Redirecting people who you suspect of having a power role is kinda stupid imo. You are limiting the function of those roles. Which are, like, important roles. Hence why they are called power roles.
Trust me I 110% agree. But I've seen it used that way previously by non wolf noobs to insane effect so...

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Nope. I think from my voting pattern, it’s pretty obvious I’ve thought mel was a wolf from d2, just no one else seems to agree.

What exactly is it about Mel that's bothering you?
 
Nope. I think from my voting pattern, it’s pretty obvious I’ve thought mel was a wolf from d2, just no one else seems to agree.
There is something I am toying around with in my mind, which is that perhaps there is actually no redirector at all and it is just my role mechanic to kick back onto a villager when I seer a wolf.

The message I get is about bringing someone to my shore, but [always staff wielder, so cute] shows up instead. So my tinfoil hat idea is that that is my notification for wolf seering: auto redirect onto a villager as kind of a "wave" mechanic that would match with my role.

In that case, then yeah, lynching Mel would get us that info. And then we would also know another wolf because of who I tried to seer last night.

Could be a chance that dy was lying about being redirected, particularly if redirector does exist and is wolfy.
 
What exactly is it about Mel that's bothering you?
That he knew pips role and she was hit with two wolf abilities, seems like excess considering on thread it was just known she had an ability. The next day when cowgirl outed that info, he made a big fanfare about not knowing pips ability, it wasn’t until after pip came back that he clarified that he didn’t know her ability until after he posted on thread that she shouldn’t be lynched. And now that last post, the last line about his reads being crap this game just doesn’t feel genuine to me. It feels like a wolf going “golly jeepers guys, I just haven’t been finding wolves well this game.”
 
There is something I am toying around with in my mind, which is that perhaps there is actually no redirector at all and it is just my role mechanic to kick back onto a villager when I seer a wolf.

The message I get is about bringing someone to my shore, but [always staff wielder, so cute] shows up instead. So my tinfoil hat idea is that that is my notification for wolf seering: auto redirect onto a villager as kind of a "wave" mechanic that would match with my role.

In that case, then yeah, lynching Mel would get us that info. And then we would also know another wolf because of who I tried to seer last night.

Could be a chance that dy was lying about being redirected, particularly if redirector does exist and is wolfy.
I definitely think dy was lying about being redirected.
 
Which is fair, but that's why I would suggest looking at people who actually made that decision quickly.
Here is that info in case anyone can translate it:
1:36A Pippy Lynch FTB
12:34P AM Lynch FTB
2:17P Pippy Unlynch FTB
Then Lyra seems cleared and griff in lead
7:10P Paws Lynch FTB
8:04P JBoo Lynch FTB (possibly the second time this game she has jumped on my lynch vote, will go back and look)
8:08P AM Unlynch FTB
8:49P KC Lynch FTB
8:57P Cowgirl Lynch FTB
8:59P Pip Relynch FTB
9:05P VMH Lynch FTB
Tie
9:56P Coop Lynch FTB
9:59P DVMD Lynch FTB
 
For those who have played Finn games before: how reliable do things like seer results typically end up being? Like, would you say she leans more towards STL or Trilt on that front?
 
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For those who have played Finn games before: how reliable do things like seer results typically end up being? Like, would you say she leans more towards STL, or Trilt on that front?
Is there a scale of reliability on this?? That seems kind of ridiculous. Whats the point of these roles if you can't even trust that they work
 
Is there a scale of reliability on this?? That seems kind of ridiculous. Whats the point of these roles if you can't even trust that they work
Lol

I am of the mindset that it is annoying af, but it definitely varies.

Take that argument up with the mods who like to mess with things because it keeps things interesting 😉
 
Super.

Lovely that they were able to convert + kill. My money is on KC or Mel. But that is a problem for tomoooorrow. Goodnight folks

This feels so wolfy to me. Can we please Lynch mel now?

What exactly is it about Mel that's bothering you?
For all of you, I have a strong suspicion to boot Mel today also after item use yesterday in which results could not be found for Mel. So unless there is strong evidence against....
Lynch Mel
 
For all of you, I have a strong suspicion to boot Mel today also after item use yesterday in which results could not be found for Mel. So unless there is strong evidence against....
Lynch Mel
Could you tell us more about this item? I mean I’m certainly ready to lynch him, but I’d like a little more explanation too.
 
Could you tell us more about this item? I mean I’m certainly ready to lynch him, but I’d like a little more explanation too.
Sure, the handmap could not detect his location. Per the 2 previous wolves dy was construction which is not a location while greeny was buckeyes which although represents Ohio is not a location.
 
Sure, the handmap could not detect his location. Per the 2 previous wolves dy was construction which is not a location while greeny was buckeyes which although represents Ohio is not a location.
Didn't like what was going on with Pippy earlier; seemed like tunneling and her insistence on not chasing conversions has started to put me off and make me worried.

but this is good enough reason to lynch Mel until I hear otherwise.

That being said, what would have happened if someone used the handmap on Kara?
 
Kara and genny weren't locations either.

Didn't like what was going on with Pippy earlier; seemed like tunneling and her insistence on not chasing conversions has started to put me off and make me worried.

but this is good enough reason to lynch Mel until I hear otherwise.

That being said, what would have happened if someone used the handmap on Kara?
True, I forgot they were not locations either. However, Mel was very interested in who had the hand map yesterday for some reason. Somethings are sketch about everything that went on with pippy and such, but FTB before death seemed to think Mel was worth more investigating leaning toward lynching.
 
True, I forgot they were not locations either. However, Mel was very interested in who had the hand map yesterday for some reason. Somethings are sketch about everything that went on with pippy and such, but FTB before death seemed to think Mel was worth more investigating leaning toward lynching.

FTB was also convinced dy was village and Pippy was a wolf prior to her death.
 
Unofficial Day 5 Lynch Tally
Paws (1) - AM
SoFlo (3) - jboo, Jil, Fern
Mel (2) - Mixed, Sporty

6/20
lynch close in 12 hours
 
Interesting, how would you know that?

I did tell someone in PM that I came back powerless

Elaborating further -- curious that you would assume I came back powerless when someone was fishing for info about that.

Same someone who I told to get Mel lynched if I died.

Makes me wonder if there is actually a little communication loop going on
I'm not sure if this is even still an issue, but I'm not sure why this was such a red flag for you. FWIW, I actually took how you worded that message to mean you were rezzed with powers (although possibly not the same ones). And yes, I realize that's easy to say now in my defense, but its true nevertheless. And my offer to role reveal in our PM still stands, if you have serious concerns about me being a wolf.
 
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