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Karabiner13 said:
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Manatee you don't have to pocket me with these gifs, I already love you
 
I would definitely like to hear more from VMH, feel like she's be skating by in the background too much.

Also want to look into coops sketch list due to reasons stated earlier.

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kcoughli said:
And yet...

Sent from my phone using the mobile app because I bought it and I'm stubborn
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Um. I expected it to be something else. Didn't realize people didn't know jboo came out with the dy info. I mean it is in the damn thread. Excuse me for thinking she had info that wasn't what I consider common known knowledge.
 
DVMDream said:
I'm going to roll my eyes so hard if it is some claim of being unconvertable.
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Oh FFS I'm not that bad of a player. I'm not going to continue this for the same reason I'm not sharing in the first place: I think sharing will hurt village. If you are so determined to have me publicly broadcast it I could very well be placing my lynch vote on you tomorrow since pushing it is sketchy as all hell.
 
DVMDream said:
Um. I expected it to be something else. Didn't realize people didn't know jboo came out with the dy info. I mean it is in the damn thread. Excuse me for thinking she had info that wasn't what I consider common known knowledge.
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Still think BBC must have some other info on jboo that she just is refusing to share because simply coming out with info on dy early in the game isn't enough to be strongly adamant to not voting that way.
 
TheGirlWithTheFernTattoo said:
Oh FFS I'm not that bad of a player. I'm not going to continue this for the same reason I'm not sharing in the first place: I think sharing will hurt village. If you are so determined to have me publicly broadcast it I could very well be placing my lynch vote on you tomorrow since pushing it is sketchy as all hell.
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Nope, don't care if you say it or not. I have no good reason to currently not vote jboo so I'm keeping my vote there until given a reason not to.

And go ahead and lynch me, I've got one person who can confirm I'm not a wolf.
 
Honestly, I kinda want to deal with this Canada thing...

But I don't like that kata pulled the claim that Coop was blocked. Did we ever settle on a feasible alternate theory for why the no-kill night could've happened?

lynch kata for now.
 
SportPonies said:
Honestly, I kinda want to deal with this Canada thing...

But I don't like that kata pulled the claim that Coop was blocked. Did we ever settle on a feasible alternate theory for why the no-kill night could've happened?

lynch kata for now.
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The other possibility is that kata’s blocking also works as protection.
 
Jilary said:
So what is your theory for the no kill? (Btw you are firmly village in my eyes)
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I came up with a few theories...

1. Somehow a dead player interaction. Could be protection or blocking. Could even be new. And if the wolf was really blocked they sure as hell aren't going to come out and say it.

2. The wolves just decided not to kill. In an attempt to frame coop.

3. Wolves converted. Which would suck a whole lot.

4. What you mentioned above about a more "jailer" like role occurring and coop was actually protected from kill.
 
Jilary said:
So what is your theory for the no kill? (Btw you are firmly village in my eyes)
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I'm not sure; I haven't been following the goings on in the last day very closely because my family Christmas was today. I was pretty convinced by the Coop-block being the reasoning, so now I need to reevaluate everything.

(I also don't keep a spreadsheet like some people 😛 So I'm usually flying by my coattails when I play WW)
 
DVMDream said:
I came up with a few theories...

1. Somehow a dead player interaction. Could be protection or blocking. Could even be new. And if the wolf was really blocked they sure as hell aren't going to come out and say it.

2. The wolves just decided not to kill. In an attempt to frame coop.

3. Wolves converted. Which would suck a whole lot.

4. What you mentioned above about a more "jailer" like role occurring and coop was actually protected from kill.
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1 and 2 seem most likely in this, to me. I can't see they got to convert again.... We've already had four kills, and there are two more wolves in play, according to the travel guide last night.
 
SportPonies said:
1 and 2 seem most likely in this, to me. I can't see they got to convert again.... We've already had four kills, and there are two more wolves in play, according to the travel guide last night.
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Was the travel guide including a conversion that happened overnight though? That is where things get into this odd "gray zone/weird zone". Which is why I specifically didn't include night when I was asking about it.
 

Some appropriate Motown for today

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Dead is @katashark, Mackinac Island, a villager with the ability to transport one person to her island via ferry each night, cutting them off from communication and blocking and protecting them from all actions during the night.

It is now Day 9. 11 Players remain. Lynch deadline is 10 pm EST.

Upper Peninsula “The Yoopers”
7. @mmmdreamerz
9. @vetmedhead
10. @johnnaboo
28. @LyraGardenia

Mackinac Bridge “Mighty Mac”
11. @DVMDream
14. @cowgirl92
16. @SportPonies

Lower Peninsula “The Trolls”
18. @Jilary
24. @kcoughli
26. @TheGirlWithTheFernTattoo

Out of Service
4. @MixedAnimals77

Hell, Michigan
17. greeneyegal92 - Buckeyes
22. allieh8607 - Lake Erie
5. Teepster87 - The Henry Ford
8. dyachei - Construction
15. Crayola227 - Bronner's Christmas Wonderland
1. genny - Tart Cherry
2. fromthebox - Lake Superior
20. Karabiner13 - American Robin
12. Melchizedek - Lake Ontario
25. staff_wielder - Motown
3. SoFloGryffindor - Presque Isle Park
13. PippyPony - North Manitou Island (formerly Lake Michigan)
19. Animal Midwife - Up North
23. SnowshoeDog143 - Michigan Wolverines
27. StayingPositive2017 - Michigan Left
6. Coopah - Apple Blossom
21. katashark - Mackinac Island
 
Well, that answers that question about the no kill night. Back to the drawing board then... has @vetmedhead been around at all the past couple days??
 
SportPonies said:
I'm not sure; I haven't been following the goings on in the last day very closely because my family Christmas was today. I was pretty convinced by the Coop-block being the reasoning, so now I need to reevaluate everything.

(I also don't keep a spreadsheet like some people 😛 So I'm usually flying by my coattails when I play WW)
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I only just started the spreadsheet because I keep forgetting why I had people cleared. I usually also fly by my coattails. Looks like kata was a jailer though.

Also, the reason I had VMH soft cleared was wrong, so she’s back to being a potential original.
 
*loudspeaker crackles*
MAY I HAVE YOUR ATTENTION, THIS IS YOUR TOUR GUIDE SPEAKING!!!
If there's interest, lynch close can be extended to Christmas Day at 10 pm est but will close early if things get real dead and everyone's checked in.
@finnickthedog @WildZoo

THAT IS ALL, WE WILL CONTINUE ON OUR TOUR.
 
Thinking VMH might be our convert. Jboo could be original.

Not sure why sporty spice is off people's list of potential originals or DVMD. Finally I could also see Jil being original.

I thought I caught something on Lyra's posts last night. Think I over interpreted it though. Shared with BBC so if she thinks it's something will share later. I'm not convinced at this point.

Sent from my phone using the mobile app because I bought it and I'm stubborn
 
Doing this bc I would really like to net a wolf today.

VMH told me about dy/Teep and about Paws/Coop. She was right about dy and the Paws/Coop thing. I misinterpreted the latter and that's my fault (other than the Paws part). Paws kinda dug her own grave towards the end of lynch, making it clear that VMH was right. I don't think VMH is a wolf. I don't know if this info is coming for her or from someone else, but it somehow made its way to me.
 
At this point pretty much everyone is on the possible lynch list. Am going back here in a few to reevaluate everyone. Who all has role revealed? Jboo, is that it? Also we know DVMD is from UP, KC is from LP (I used to pm with FTB and they had a suspicion on her so I used the hand map last night), and Lyra is apparently from Canada, is that it?
 
Okay:

For my first question, I tried to ask during which day/night the conversion took place. Wasn't answered.

My backup question was to clarify when the 2-wolf-left answer was effective through. My answer was that it didn't include that night cycle that I asked; it was effective through the previous day.
 
MixedAnimals77 said:
At this point pretty much everyone is on the possible lynch list. Am going back here in a few to reevaluate everyone. Who all has role revealed? Jboo, is that it? Also we know DVMD is from UP, KC is from LP (I used to pm with FTB and they had a suspicion on her so I used the hand map last night), and Lyra is apparently from Canada, is that it?
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FYI FTB had already used the hand map on me and discovered I was from the LP. I also resurrected you (well, LIS, but yanno).

I now have reason to think Jil is not original. Which leaves my original list down to DVMD (though if from the UP maybe less likely), SP, 3M, and BBC.

Lynch BBC

And if you all want to hear my theory about Lyra: Last night I was abruptly told to stop PMing. I later got the full ferry block message. I clarified with mods that I could still PM with them just not other people (was confirmed). I had a "eureka!" moment because I thought I'd remembered someone saying the block also blocked them from PMing the mods. My thought was a wolf would have to stop PMing mods because the other wolf players are in the same chat window. I went and looked for the post and it was Lyra saying she thinks it blocked her PM to the mods because her action didn't go through. Now of course we know it wouldn't have gone through because it was a full block/protect via katachomps. So my eureka moment was possibly not quite as exciting as I thought it was.

I PMed all of this to BBC after the night ended and haven't heard from her since.
 
SportPonies said:
Okay:

For my first question, I tried to ask during which day/night the conversion took place. Wasn't answered.

My backup question was to clarify when the 2-wolf-left answer was effective through. My answer was that it didn't include that night cycle that I asked; it was effective through the previous day.
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So when was the original 2 wolf question asked?

kcoughli said:
FYI FTB had already used the hand map on me and discovered I was from the LP. I also resurrected you (well, LIS, but yanno).

I now have reason to think Jil is not original. Which leaves my original list down to DVMD (though if from the UP maybe less likely), SP, 3M, and BBC.

Lynch BBC

And if you all want to hear my theory about Lyra: Last night I was abruptly told to stop PMing. I later got the full ferry block message. I clarified with mods that I could still PM with them just not other people (was confirmed). I had a "eureka!" moment because I thought I'd remembered someone saying the block also blocked them from PMing the mods. My thought was a wolf would have to stop PMing mods because the other wolf players are in the same chat window. I went and looked for the post and it was Lyra saying she thinks it blocked her PM to the mods because her action didn't go through. Now of course we know it wouldn't have gone through because it was a full block/protect via katachomps. So my eureka moment was possibly not quite as exciting as I thought it was.

I PMed all of this to BBC after the night ended and haven't heard from her since.
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Not sure if this helps at all, but kata told me this before she was killed “Also, in my mod PM it says that blocking brings them to Mackinac Island where they can't PM or do their action.”
 
@kcoughli Going back I see all that now. I was on mobile all day yesterday and when I used hand map so no real opportunity for me to go back without trudging through everything.
The following is from a wolf's perspective which might help someone...
Melchizedek said:
Wolf
DVMD-?
KC-village

Wolfish
Snowy-village
Dy-wolf
Gryff-village noob
Cowgirl-? inclined to think village based off Mel/Pippy/Cowgirl interaction
Jil-?

Villageish
Kara-village
AM-village
Crayola-village

Village
Pippy-village
BBC-?
Staff-village noob
SP-? inclined to believe village

Everyone else is either null or I don't have enough info to form an opinion on.
VMH
Mixy
Jboo
Coop-village
Lyra
3m
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So that leaves 2 of which are wolves, my reads currently
DVMD-gives lots of theories which is good, didn't lynch coop
KC-village claim inclined to believe
Cowgirl-village based on Mel/Pip/Cowgirl situation she stayed true to lynching Mel
Jil-not much here for me to decide one way or another
Fern- similar to VMH below, waffled off wolf votes previous in game
SP-village per previous game play and lynching
VMH- hasn't been around much, doesn't seem to out anyone
Jboo- lots of vague knowledge
Lyra-village because nobody hates Canada
3m-village, because of no lynch yesterday
Animal Midwife said:
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The Dead's Day 8 Lynch Tally
Jil (1) - DVMD
Coop (8) - jboo, kata, Fern, Lyra, cowgirl, Sporty, kc, Mixy
cowgirl () -
jboo (1) - Coop
vmh (1) - Jil

11/13
lynch close in 10 minutes
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Is the mod killing of slacking players still a thing? VMH has been MIA for a few days eventhough they've been on, knew they had a headache at one point...
3m didn't lynch, but was on and backed off Coop, not saying should be mod killed but didn't lynch which is interesting (more inclined to think village though with this).

johnnaboo said:
Doing this bc I would really like to net a wolf today.
VMH told me about dy/Teep and about Paws/Coop. She was right about dy and the Paws/Coop thing. I misinterpreted the latter and that's my fault (other than the Paws part). Paws kinda dug her own grave towards the end of lynch, making it clear that VMH was right. I don't think VMH is a wolf. I don't know if this info is coming for her or from someone else, but it somehow made its way to me.
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What all did they say and when did VMH speak to this dy/Teep and Paws/Coop stuff?
Will be taking into consideration the rest of today's discussion as I need more info before lynching.
 
MixedAnimals77 said:
@kcoughli Going back I see all that now. I was on mobile all day yesterday and when I used hand map so no real opportunity for me to go back without trudging through everything.
The following is from a wolf's perspective which might help someone...

So that leaves 2 of which are wolves, my reads currently
DVMD-gives lots of theories which is good, didn't lynch coop
KC-village claim inclined to believe
Cowgirl-village based on Mel/Pip/Cowgirl situation she stayed true to lynching Mel
Jil-not much here for me to decide one way or another
Fern- similar to VMH below, waffled off wolf votes previous in game
SP-village per previous game play and lynching
VMH- hasn't been around much, doesn't seem to out anyone
Jboo- lots of vague knowledge
Lyra-village because nobody hates Canada
3m-village, because of no lynch yesterday

Is the mod killing of slacking players still a thing? VMH has been MIA for a few days eventhough they've been on, knew they had a headache at one point...
3m didn't lynch, but was on and backed off Coop, not saying should be mod killed but didn't lynch which is interesting (more inclined to think village though with this).


What all did they say and when did VMH speak to this dy/Teep and Paws/Coop stuff?
Will be taking into consideration the rest of today's discussion as I need more info before lynching.
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You put 3m as village because she didn’t vote yesterday, but you don’t have enough on me to make any kind of read? 3m not voting definitely doesn’t make her village. I didn’t lynch coop yesterday either, but I don’t think that makes me a strong villager. Wolves often don’t vote for villagers during bandwagons like that because they KNOW that person is village and is going down anyway. Just look what mel did during the allieh lynch.
 
MixedAnimals77 said:
@kcoughli Going back I see all that now. I was on mobile all day yesterday and when I used hand map so no real opportunity for me to go back without trudging through everything.
The following is from a wolf's perspective which might help someone...

So that leaves 2 of which are wolves, my reads currently
DVMD-gives lots of theories which is good, didn't lynch coop
KC-village claim inclined to believe
Cowgirl-village based on Mel/Pip/Cowgirl situation she stayed true to lynching Mel
Jil-not much here for me to decide one way or another
Fern- similar to VMH below, waffled off wolf votes previous in game
SP-village per previous game play and lynching
VMH- hasn't been around much, doesn't seem to out anyone
Jboo- lots of vague knowledge
Lyra-village because nobody hates Canada
3m-village, because of no lynch yesterday

Is the mod killing of slacking players still a thing? VMH has been MIA for a few days eventhough they've been on, knew they had a headache at one point...
3m didn't lynch, but was on and backed off Coop, not saying should be mod killed but didn't lynch which is interesting (more inclined to think village though with this).


What all did they say and when did VMH speak to this dy/Teep and Paws/Coop stuff?
Will be taking into consideration the rest of today's discussion as I need more info before lynching.
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AM's tally missed my lynch vote...which was on jboo at close
 
Jilary said:
You put 3m as village because she didn’t vote yesterday, but you don’t have enough on me to make any kind of read? 3m not voting definitely doesn’t make her village. I didn’t lynch coop yesterday either, but I don’t think that makes me a strong villager. Wolves often don’t vote for villagers during bandwagons like that because they KNOW that person is village and is going down anyway. Just look what mel did during the allieh lynch.
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I did vote. I was on Coop at the beginning of the day based on kata's info, but was pretty uneasy about the vote by close, so I switched to jboo.
 
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