Originally posted by gsx56
Hey - what are your reasons for choosing USC over UCLA? I hear of this decision occuring more often recently...
I've talked about this a little on the Keck thread, so you can check some of that out, but I'll summarize (or at least try to summarize--I can get kinda carried away; I enjoy talking about this because it helps me figure out which school I'd rather go to and I get helpful opinions from others in similar situations).
1.) The first and most important reason is because of LA County Hospital. I know that if I spend most of my clinical years at County I will leave medical school feeling VERY clinically competent. In addition, I really like the patient population that County serves, and I look forward to mastering espanol while I am there. And finally in regards to the clinical training at 'SC, it's not like they just have county--they have the University Hospital, Specialty Centers, and tons of outpatient clinics.
This is not to say that UCLA doesn't have AWESOME clinical environments, it does--I went there for undergrad and was exposed to a lot of them through volunteering. Although, it doesn't have county. From what I have been told from faculty and students at UCLA, the affiliated county hospitals do not play a large role in the education of the students. A lot of really important and cutting-edge procedures happen at UCLA, but from what I know, med students don't participate that much in cutting-edge procedures. Sure I want to see all of these types procedures, but I know that I can see them at the USC University Hospital. I want to spend the majority of my time in the thick of patient care, which I feel I will have a better chance with at LA County.
In thinking about the benefits of UCLA, I have told myself that I could just make an extra effort to spend a lot of time at Olive View and Harbor, the affiliated county hospitals. But I am worried this will fall through. My faculty interviewer said that most students stay at UCLA for clinicals because everyone wants to establish relatinships with faculty for LORs for residency. I figure that at USC, I could be killing two birds with one stone--playing a big role in patient care and establishing relationships with faculty at County.
Okay so maybe this isn't a summary at all, but oh well.
I've heard a couple people mention that they are worried about the potential scut work and lack of guidance at LA County. I figure it this way. Please let me know if you disagree. USC is a very reputable institution and I doubt they are just going to throw med students in to a procedure without teaching them how to do it. It's not like intubating for example is common knowledge. Maybe the doctors at County won't spend as much time with you showing you how to do it as at another med school because they are super busy (and I really don't know this--it's just an assumption), but I feel this will just make me more clinically competent by really making me learn through doing, which I feel is a better teaching technique. And, if I have to put more effort into tracking down physicians and convincing them how to show me something a couple of times, that's a sacrifice that I am more than willing to take to become better clinically trained.
Okay enough of that. (comments welcome)
2.) Another (much less important) reason, is that I feel I will be better taken care of at 'SC. Stronger alumni network. More contact with faculty. Nicer classrooms. Modules, etc.
3.) The curriculum is more established (UCLA just started their new curriculum this year). Also, they won't have to wing a completely new gross anatomy program because a court ordered them to close the willed body donation progarm because certain employees were making a profit off of people's body parts. And just in case I would like to take more dissection electives (for surgery), I know the option will be open to me.
Reasons for UCLA:
1.) On undergrad campus: tons of libraries, cafes, places to eat, right next to Westwood, which has everything, a gym, non-health students, chances to take other classes, an awesome film program, in a nicer area of LA
2.) Tons of different types of research going on (not to say that USC is shabby in that area). Awesome mental health facilities and research (esp. NPI). (the students at 'SC thought that their basic science years didn't cover psych so much, but I don't know the exact amount--I don't know about UCLA)
3.) It might be easier to get into a residency having gone to UCLA because right now it is considered a "better" med school, but USC does say it is on the rise. I think this is esp. important for people that might not want to stay in Cali for residency, but maybe not so much for people who want to stay in Cali; I think programs outside of Cali may be more willing to accept UCLA students, but I don't know.
Well that's all I can think of now. Sorry it's so long, but maybe it's helpful for you guys, it was helpful for me.