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I have a feeling from now until the waitlist comes the adcom will send acceptances piecemeal as more spots present themselves.

I have to decide by a week from this Monday (March 9th) which campus to attend, so one of those spots will open then and hopefully one of you will get it 🙂 I've loved rooting for all of us in this thread. I'm going down to re-visit both next week before I make my decision, since I'm completely torn, 50/50.
 
Wow! Congratulations on what must be one of the best days of your life so far. Have you talked to Phoenix, or do you happen to know if they have now offered all of their seats?

Yesterday absolutely was surreal. When I read the e-mail I was sure it was a dream.

I called Phoenix last Monday and Tara told me that they will be sending out acceptances as seats open up. She wouldn't specifically tell me if all the seats were full, but it seems as though that status is on a day-to-day basis as people are choosing between the two campuses.
 
Congratulations to everyone that got in! This is really exciting especially since there's been sooooooooo much activity and the waitlist has not even been determined! I wish the best for all of us!

:prof::biglove::biglove::biglove::banana:
 
Unfortunately, all this activity will probably mean less wait list activity. Come on Phoenix, throw me a bone!
 
I guess they fill an entire alternate class, so the size will be 110. Man I'm gonna be neurotic as we get closer and closer to potential waitlist release day.
 
Yesterday absolutely was surreal. When I read the e-mail I was sure it was a dream.

I called Phoenix last Monday and Tara told me that they will be sending out acceptances as seats open up. She wouldn't specifically tell me if all the seats were full, but it seems as though that status is on a day-to-day basis as people are choosing between the two campuses.

Wow! Congrats MJ. Two in one day, that's incredible. I'm hoping that I get your seat in Phoenix.............
 
So what kind of action can we expect this week? I think I have officially reached the stage where I just need finality, whether or not I get in.
 
Me too. I've already blocked out 2009 UA admission. I'll be a lot more confident with a better app next year.
 
I remain confident in my app, and my chances to get a solid waitlist rank. I will give up only when I am either rejected, or the class starts.
 
I don't know about you guys but it is actually more nerve racking waiting for the waitlist. Essentially 50 people will get into medical school on the day it is released...they may have to wait but I think that if you are under 50, you are guaranteed to get in. This is exciting.:luck:
 
I don't know about you guys but it is actually more nerve racking waiting for the waitlist. Essentially 50 people will get into medical school on the day it is released...they may have to wait but I think that if you are under 50, you are guaranteed to get in. This is exciting.:luck:

It would be really really nice to know now so that maybe I wouldn't have to spend $$$ on a flight to New York to interview at NYCOM Next week. I do like their joint DO/MBA program which if I'm reading the website correctly can be done in the same 4 years?!?!?! But I spoke to my Dad who lives in NY today and they're getting 16" of snow..or 40.64cm for us lab geeks (2.54cm=1 inch) lol. And out here.....well everyone it seemed had some type of pool party or something going on today. Ahhh Arizona how I love thee!
 
I don't know about you guys but it is actually more nerve racking waiting for the waitlist. Essentially 50 people will get into medical school on the day it is released...they may have to wait but I think that if you are under 50, you are guaranteed to get in. This is exciting.:luck:

I'd be so, so nervous to get placed anywhere from 30-50 myself. I'd be thrilled, but just shaking in my boots from mid-March til late-May. My guess (which has no basis whatsoever) is that the waitlist will go up to about 40 this year.
 
to interview at NYCOM Next week.

If you get in there and don't get in at U of A, then maybe we can commiserate in Harlem together. I may be doing a Master's in Nutrition at Columbia Univ if I don't get in to medical school this round. 🙂
 
Did you get that ad for that nutrition program after taking the MCAT in your email? I thought it actually sounded quite interesting. You must tell me what it is like if you go....but I hope you go to UA.
 
Did you get that ad for that nutrition program after taking the MCAT in your email? I thought it actually sounded quite interesting. You must tell me what it is like if you go....but I hope you go to UA.

Yeah, I did get that ad and I was pretty excited about it since I've always loved visiting NY. It's tempting to go out there to get a Master's degree, but the cost of living is outrageous. They do some amazing work in nutrition in NY though, so that's what makes it especially attractive for me. A Master's degree here at ASU is probably a more likely option though if I don't get in...

What is everybody else planning to do in the interim year if they don't get in?
 
I'd be so, so nervous to get placed anywhere from 30-50 myself. I'd be thrilled, but just shaking in my boots from mid-March til late-May. My guess (which has no basis whatsoever) is that the waitlist will go up to about 40 this year.

I'd guess its gonna be ~30. I think this rolling admissions process will result in less waitlist movement since people who were accepted earlier may have already declined. Thus they simply gave out an acceptance to make up for that last week as opposed to last year where they would have been required to give that acceptance to someone on the waitlist.

Although I sincerely hope they go to 80 😀
 
If you get in there and don't get in at U of A, then maybe we can commiserate in Harlem together. I may be doing a Master's in Nutrition at Columbia Univ if I don't get in to medical school this round. 🙂


Out of curiosity why did you not apply to NYCOM them? Their clinical curriculum is practically idential to most allopathic med schools (they actually do a 12 week surgery rotation and I didn't notice anything on their page about underserved community rotations like AZCOM has). They also have a joint DO/MS in nutrition....and if you're looking to do the whole clinical wellness nutrition thing a DO in many ways sets you up better for that. For some career options a DO is better (IMO at least...).
 
What is everybody else planning to do in the interim year if they don't get in?

Ideally I'd like to get a masters in Nutrion or Exercise Sciences, but with a baby on the way I'm gonna have to provide for my family, so I'll probably try to get a job as a PCT or something medically-related that will give me insurance. But ultimately I'm worried I'll have to get a job that is non-medical.

Any suggestions? What would be the best job to get for people who can't really go for a masters?
 
Out of curiosity why did you not apply to NYCOM them? Their clinical curriculum is practically idential to most allopathic med schools (they actually do a 12 week surgery rotation and I didn't notice anything on their page about underserved community rotations like AZCOM has). They also have a joint DO/MS in nutrition....and if you're looking to do the whole clinical wellness nutrition thing a DO in many ways sets you up better for that. For some career options a DO is better (IMO at least...).

Wow, I didn't even know they had a DO/MS in nutrition degree anywhere. However, I don't think I could stand NYC for more than a year to be completely honest. I could only take the beating of NYC's cost of living for a year.

And, just because someone is interested in nutrition doesn't mean they are into the "whole clinical wellness nutrition thing" you mentioned. I may have misread what you meant by this, but I had images of doctors giving dietary advice to eat plenty of fruits and vegetables to all of their patients. This isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it's not what all nutrition-oriented doctors do. My interviewer at U of A Tucson actually has done tons of research on trauma nutrition and has published some awesome material:

Amino Acids in Critically Ill and Cancer Patients. R.G. Landes Publishing Company, CRC Press, 1994.

Surgical Nutrition: Strategies in Critically Ill. Springer-Verlag, R.G. Landes, 1995

Current Surgical Nutrition. R.G. Landes and Chapman & Hall, 1996

Nutrition Support in Cancer and Transplant patients. Georgetown , Texas : RG Landes, 2001

The Biology and Practice of Current Nutrition Support. 2nd Edition. Georgetown , Texas : Landes Bioscience and Eurekah.com, 2003
 
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Any suggestions? What would be the best job to get for people who can't really go for a masters?

Do what you really want to do. I have a brother-in-law getting his PhD in math with three kids. He's poor as rocks, but he's making it work.

Do you have a bachelor's in nutrition?
 
Wow, I didn't even know they had a DO/MS in nutrition degree anywhere. However, I don't think I could stand NYC for more than a year to be completely honest. I could only take the beating of NYC's cost of living for a year.

And, just because someone is interested in nutrition doesn't mean they are into the "whole clinical wellness nutrition thing" you mentioned. I may have misread what you meant by this, but I had images of doctors giving dietary advice to eat plenty of fruits and vegetables to all of their patients. This isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it's not what all nutrition-oriented doctors do. My interviewer at U of A Tucson actually has done tons of research on trauma nutrition and has published some awesome material:

Amino Acids in Critically Ill and Cancer Patients. R.G. Landes Publishing Company, CRC Press, 1994.

Surgical Nutrition: Strategies in Critically Ill. Springer-Verlag, R.G. Landes, 1995

Current Surgical Nutrition. R.G. Landes and Chapman & Hall, 1996

Nutrition Support in Cancer and Transplant patients. Georgetown , Texas : RG Landes, 2001

The Biology and Practice of Current Nutrition Support. 2nd Edition. Georgetown , Texas : Landes Bioscience and Eurekah.com, 2003


Now that is some cool stuff! When you said nutrition I didn't even think of it in that regard. There's so much to learn. I'm bored and can't sleep at the moment so I'm asking Dr. Google lots of questions. l just found out why I my jaw would hurt after taking down an energy drink (I asked a few cardiologists and was told I was crazy to think I was having an MI!)...caffeine increases tooth grinding. Oh btw is it just me but when I wrote increases back there it felt so odd to write it out instead of using an up arrow like I did when taking notes back in college....
And myself...I did not even know NYCOM had the program. It was on the same page as their MBA program which I was reading about so that's how that discovery came about.

And yes I was talking about docs reccomending fruits and veggies (and maybe a couple protein drinks???) to their patients. Oh turkey burgers too... yum 🙂
 
And yes I was talking about docs reccomending fruits and veggies (and maybe a couple protein drinks???) to their patients. Oh turkey burgers too... yum 🙂

Hahaha, sorry if my post was harsh at all. It just irks me when other majors feel that all nutrition majors do is cut carrots and make veggie soup all day. There's much more to nutrition than the food pyramid.

For example, my last test in one of my classes required us to know every substrate, product, and enzyme involved in glycolysis, the TCA cycle, and gluconeogenesis. And, we went over all of this in just a couple days worth of classes. We've got tons of hard sciences we have to learn, probably even more than some bio majors do.
 
Do what you really want to do. I have a brother-in-law getting his PhD in math with three kids. He's poor as rocks, but he's making it work.

Do you have a bachelor's in nutrition?

Yes I do. I dont really have any kind of medical training though, just the volunteer work I've done.
 
Yes I do. I dont really have any kind of medical training though, just the volunteer work I've done.

With a bachelor's in nutrition you could work as a diet tech. You could try starting out at a long-term care facility, which is one step up from a nursing home. Or, you could look for jobs as a diet tech at the hospital if that interests you more. I think you can make actually pretty good money.

Without a degree, I interviewed at a few places and was asking 13$ per hour. No one took the bait though, since I don't have a degree yet. I bet with a degree you could start out at about $15 per hour or so. So, not great money, but great experience while you make at least a little bit.
 
With a bachelor's in nutrition you could work as a diet tech. You could try starting out at a long-term care facility, which is one step up from a nursing home. Or, you could look for jobs as a diet tech at the hospital if that interests you more. I think you can make actually pretty good money.

Without a degree, I interviewed at a few places and was asking 13$ per hour. No one took the bait though, since I don't have a degree yet. I bet with a degree you could start out at about $15 per hour or so. So, not great money, but great experience while you make at least a little bit.

Hmmm...I have a degree in nutrition and interviewed for a diet tech job a few month ago and the salary was 11.80 per hour. Where do they pay $13?
 
I just got an "e-vite" for the second look day at Tucson and it says that a total of 120 people were sent the invitation. I wonder if that means 120 acceptances have gone out? Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but this seemed like the kind of info that would be useful for the thread 🙂
 
I just got an "e-vite" for the second look day at Tucson and it says that a total of 120 people were sent the invitation. I wonder if that means 120 acceptances have gone out? Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but this seemed like the kind of info that would be useful for the thread 🙂

I imagine it includes invites for people who have been accepted to tucson and phoenix but have indicated they will go to phoenix. That still doesnt make a whole bunch of sense though. Maybe they expanded the class size and didnt tell anyone? It doesnt make too much sense to try to invite more people to the school than they know they can accomodate. Unless they are just hedging their bets on people who may reject them.
 
I imagine it includes invites for people who have been accepted to tucson and phoenix but have indicated they will go to phoenix. That still doesnt make a whole bunch of sense though. Maybe they expanded the class size and didnt tell anyone? It doesnt make too much sense to try to invite more people to the school than they know they can accomodate.

I was just accepted on Friday so I'm sure a spot had opened up by then from one of the earlier rounds. And since I got the invitation so soon, they must send them to everyone before they choose a campus.
 
I was just accepted on Friday so I'm sure a spot had opened up by then from one of the earlier rounds. And since I got the invitation so soon, they must send them to everyone before they choose a campus.

The e-mail was sent to everyone today...people who were accepted before Friday also got first notice of 2nd look day today. I look forward to seeing everyone there in health and happiness!
 
Hmmm...I have a degree in nutrition and interviewed for a diet tech job a few month ago and the salary was 11.80 per hour. Where do they pay $13?

I interviewed at a skilled nursing facility, which is something between an old-folks home and a hospital. Even with a degree, the best salary you could find was 11.80? Or was that while in school working on your BSc?
 
So tonight I had an interesting experience. I had to return some videos to Blockbuster on Speedway and Campbell, and decided to go across the street and sit for a little bit and think while staring at the med school. Since I'm already a re-applicant and haven't heard anything yet, I've had a hard time staying positive lately. Right as I took out my phone to take a picture of the school to send to my wife with a message along the lines of 'this is the closest I'll ever come to getting into medical school,' the CD changed tracks and 'Won't Back Down' by Tom Petty came on. Wierd.
 
I don't know about you guys but I feel very crushed (for those who will have to reapply if no acceptance). I have a magna cum laude, 30 MCAT, 300+ volunteer hours, an original personal statement. I guess the worst part is is that I gave up an amazing opportunity to pursue applying. Everyone told me it was the stupidest wild card decision I could make. I said, oh, whatever, I can always go to the Caribbean if it doesn't pan out. But, I think that is incorrect. I don't want to struggle with a capital S for basic things such as clerkship locations, etc. when they are so easily granted here. I don't want the stigma. The hard part about reapplying is that even if I had a perfect app, there are no guarantees. Look at MerryJoulton, with a 34 MCAT. He got an acceptance so late. It's hard to explain....I want to build up 8-9 years of medical knowledge. Yes, there are other fields I could pursue, like law, etc, but I *want* to study medicine. I find it difficult to picture myself sitting down and becoming absorbed in a study that is my second choice. I mean, if it comes to that, I will study something else and be happy with that decision. And, the bottom line is that there are not enough medical seats for all the qualified applicants. There never will be. This board has definitely become invaluable...as I can see the profiles of those who are accepted and am able to get a better idea about UA and what it looks for. Oh well, thanks for letting me vent. It is also comforting to hear about the reapplicants out there and the people who have applied 4 times.
 
I love how this has become a great place to vent. My turn. So of course I didnt get my flu shot when they were giving them away at work months ago, and I of course got influenza A this Thursday..the weekend before my 5 exams I have this and next week..Fortunately my Dad was laid off just in time and my family and I became uninsured March 1 and not a day sooner...Dang economy. All of that talk in my interviews about healthcare policies and insurance for everyone..never actually thought I would be talking about myself in months to come. So the flu is probably the suckiest thing ever right now...Not to mention it still makes me sick thinking how much I put my heart into UA and it probably just wont happen. Man a nice small WL number would be great anytime now...
 
I don't know about you guys but I feel very crushed (for those who will have to reapply if no acceptance). I have a magna cum laude, 30 MCAT, 300+ volunteer hours, an original personal statement. I guess the worst part is is that I gave up an amazing opportunity to pursue applying. Everyone told me it was the stupidest wild card decision I could make. I said, oh, whatever, I can always go to the Caribbean if it doesn't pan out. But, I think that is incorrect. I don't want to struggle with a capital S for basic things such as clerkship locations, etc. when they are so easily granted here. I don't want the stigma. The hard part about reapplying is that even if I had a perfect app, there are no guarantees. Look at MerryJoulton, with a 34 MCAT. He got an acceptance so late. It's hard to explain....I want to build up 8-9 years of medical knowledge. Yes, there are other fields I could pursue, like law, etc, but I *want* to study medicine. I find it difficult to picture myself sitting down and becoming absorbed in a study that is my second choice. I mean, if it comes to that, I will study something else and be happy with that decision. And, the bottom line is that there are not enough medical seats for all the qualified applicants. There never will be. This board has definitely become invaluable...as I can see the profiles of those who are accepted and am able to get a better idea about UA and what it looks for. Oh well, thanks for letting me vent. It is also comforting to hear about the reapplicants out there and the people who have applied 4 times.

You deserve to get in by all standards but who really understands the process? There is no black and white formula that says do x, y, and z and get guaranteed an acceptance. I know one person that got an interview at brown yet was put on hold for an interview at the state school. Go figure that one out. It's great that you have the passion and drive to make it through this! And applying sucks! I'm hoping for an answer from Midwestern this week so I don't have to spend any more money on this process and won't need to book flights for other interviews. I've done practically nothing in terms of advancing my career life for two years..but I've had a lot of fun in the process.
Well think of something; there is NOTHING wrong with taking an alternative route like DO or offshore. Take NYCOM for instance:
This is their third year curriculum:
•Family Medicine - 6 Weeks
•Medicine - 12 Weeks
•Ob/Gyn - 6 Weeks
•Pediatrics - 6 Weeks
•Psychiatry - 6 Weeks
•Surgery - 12 Weeks

That's pretty much identical to any allopathic school. What are you giving up in those 4 years? If you go an alternate route that's 4 years you could have spent as a doctor. It's like if you are that worried about it..well you could have completed an entire family medicine residency plus a fellowship in those four years and if you wanted something more special you could've stared all over in plastics, derm, or general surgery. Point being time is precious. How much better will you really doing come out of UA vs DO or Carib? Is how well you do really a function of your school or a function of you? There are so many people that have done well with alternate routes.
I'm a re-applicant and I'm not going to give up another year just trying to prove that I can be a doctor. Instead I'll go wherever I get in and get the highest board scores out of anyone and derive satisfaction from knowing that they lost out on one hell of an applicant. And in the same token I'll swallow a dose of humility and build up pride in the process knowing that I had to work for everything I have.

So yeah it sucks...lets say I had taken the fast track through college and gone offshore..I'd be getting my MD this year at 25. Instead of sitting at 25 wondering where I'll be living in a few months and unable to find work b/c noone wants to hire someone starting med school in a few months.

So that's my rant.

Anyone know when the WL is coming out?
 
Point being time is precious. How much better will you really doing come out of UA vs DO or Carib? Is how well you do really a function of your school or a function of you?

Couldn't have voiced my thoughts better.👍 As you can all tell I'm headed the DO route in the fall if I don't get into U of A. So take my opinion for what its worth.

I took an extra year to shore up my application and aside from my MCAT there isn't much else I feel I could really do. Maybe a bit more volunteering here or there but the amount I would be able to do in time for next June is minimal at best.

So I agree with Proteinpowda, what is your time worth? If you have holes in your application then ya wait a year, fix it and give it another shot. If your a somewhat well rounded applicant and there isn't a whole lot holding you back then perhaps you need to ask yourself what you really want here?

Is it to be a doctor? DO or Carib would do that...

Is it to have the initials MD next to your name? Carib would do that...

Or is it to save the 100K by going to U of A over a DO school? Ya, its true you would have less loans BUT you're also sacrificing a year of being a physician which you would earn MORE than 100K.

The reasons people tell you not to go DO are usually unfounded such as "oh then you can't go into plastics". Well yes you can. But lets be serious here, how many people actually go into the really competitive specialties through the MD route anyways. I know this issue has been debated to death EVERYWHERE. But I really feel that those who are rockstars will be that way no matter where they go b/c lets face it, YOUR LIFE IS YOUR OWN.

Sorry for the rant but really people, it's YOU who decide what type of physician you want to be, not the school.

Now if we can just all get our wishes for us SDN'ers to be numbers 1-15 on the waitlist 😉 (hint hint)
 
Or is it to save the 100K by going to U of A over a DO school? Ya, its true you would have less loans BUT you're also sacrificing a year of being a physician which you would earn MORE than 100K.


That was the main reason I re-applied instead of taking my Ross acceptance in January. If I started at Ross in Jan. with their trimester thing I would have been able to make the match for 2012. So I pretty much gave up a year hoping to spend overall 90k in tuition vs the 140k they charge. Now I'll be paying closer to 200k if I get into Midwestern (43k a year now which I'm sure will go up).
And yeah in that year I could've made anywhere from 100-500k depending on what I do. Along the way I decided DO was better than Carib b/c I hate to say it but the economic climate is getting worse by the day for clinicians. While I think the amount of money you can earn as a doc is great...it really sucks when you compare it to what others make. PA's start at 90k a year...and you can do that in 5 or 6 years Post high school vs min of 11 for an MD or DO (and that's for family practice where you won't start at much more than the PA) and for a lot less hours worked. I really don't see the fairness in that.
And truth be told it's start to backlash b.c. a lot of people are now electing to not enter medicine b/c of it. I know quite a few myself that don't want to deal with the hours and how docs are treated by insurance companies, govt, and malpractice lawyers. They say why not go into pharmacy and get paid 60-70 an hour to count pills or be a nice and get 30-40 an hour or more plus shift differential and overtime.
People need to get real on their earnings potential.
I was on locumtenens the other day. The avg. locumtenens pay according to them for PEDS, FM and IM is 400-600/day for 8 hours. That's 50-75 an hour. Why in the world should docs be getting paid what a nurse pa or nurse practicioner can make and have to carry so much more liability. True other fields such as gas and ortho were getting paid 1000-1500/day...but in my mind that's not enough for what we have to give up to get there and how much a medical education costs.
FACT: A Medical education compared to another healthcare job (say nursing) costs $1,000,000. That's how much you're in the red in terms of oppurtunity cost by the time you're a doctor.
Here's my math:
Lets say person 1 gets their B.S.N
Person 2 likes wearing white coats (and even wears a stethoscope on first dates to see if he captured the other persons heart) and goes through 3 years of residency.
So by the time Person 2 is done Person 1 has worked for 7 years.
Lowball the figure and say person 1 made 60k a year as a nurse; that's 420k. Now say that person had the pre-med mentality and worked extra shifts to make it fair (since med school and residency take up more than 40 hours/week). Just one shift a week say 12 hours for 40/hour that pays 500 or so. Holiday pay and stuff too. So say person 1 made an extra 30k a year doing this (and you can make more than that once they start getting their overtime back). That's an extra 210k over seven years. That's also excluding benefits, 401k, roth, health insurance, and getting to raise a family (priceless).
Now person 2 went out of state or DO or Caribbean for med school and after all is said and done spent 200k between school, books, traveling, lab stuff. Etc.
So we're at 630k so far. Then factor in the 3 years of residency at avere of 45k..say 130k overall.
420+210+200-130 = 700k. Then factor in interest on student loans...the benefits...etc...and thats only for a three year residency. Now try that math for a five year one....
Kind of hard to recoup all that getting paid $60/visit right?
Oh and the time you lose from your life knowing that you made a mistake that could have killed someone or maybe did? It will most likely happen.
Even harder to swallow when you see lawyers coming out after 3 years and starting at 70-120k and by the time they would be done with residency they're making a lot more than that.

So why do we all do it? Do we think we'll look hot in scrubs and never succumb to latex allergies? Or do we get off on saying "scalpel?" and working 60-80 hours/week and missing out on so many other imporant things in our lives? Or maybe some people don't know what they're in for; or think medicine isn't like this? That you get to spend more than a few minutes with patients; insurance companies give you carte blanche, and that people think they should pay you more hourly than they pay their auto mechanic; or they're happy to give their hair stylist a tip yet hate paying you a copay, that patients don't judge you on how smart you are or how hard you work or how you stayed up for 3 days straight to get a good board score, but on the impression you give them (amongst other things and your reputation etc), or that you should be happy, smiling and compassionate about something stuck in their finger after you stayed up for 48 hours stooped over operating tables saving lives and later get a letter in the mail from an ambulance chaser attorney?

Yeah medicine can suck! I wonder why I enter it sometimes. It's not selfish to want to get back with interest for what you give. It is what makes people apply to med school. Charge 500k in tuition and pay 50k a year who will apply? Charge $1 for every prescription and what drug companies will hire chemists to create new molecules? Start paying less and less for surgery and what surgeons will innovate new techniques?

At the end of the day we all think it will change. We might feel it's going to get worse in our polls but in our hearts we have such a vested interest in the matter (like those of us currently holding onto back stocks we bought at $50 and now trade for $3) and have committed so much to this that we don't want to walk away from our investment. And we like helping people. We derive pleasure going home at night knowing we saved a life. We feel we can cure the worlds ill and stop death. Maybe we do it b/c we fear our own death and mortality. Who knows. But something drives each and every one of us to put the lives of others before our own happyness. Or maybe some of us just love the job. I know that every job I had I couldn't wait to go home. In college I wanted to sleep and the chairs in the library were so comfortable. Yet in the ICU I didn't want to leave or go home. I ran around with glee the first time I heard a wheeze through my stethoscope and eagerly ran to the doctor I was interning with to have him come listen so I could say "What was that? What's the underyling pathology!" Or the time a family member of mine called with a stomach pain and I told her to press on a certain point in her abdomen and then told her to go the hospital right away saying she likely had appedicitis (and was half correct and so excited that I was able to apply what I learned and be able to help another). It's being able to know what is going on when those important to you are sick; for some of us it's about being able to get rid of our neroticism and hypochondriasis and to know that every little itch or twitch of the head is not fatal. It's about not feeling powerless about one of the three most important aspects of our lives (health, wealth, and relationships) so that when something goes wrong with our health we don't feel claustrophobic about all the information and doctor speak. It's about the way patients say Doctor and look at you, how ten words you can say can mean more than a 1000 words spoken by another; how it has to be true b/c my doctor said it (well not always), and it's about being a confidante, a mentor and a role model for other people.
Really there is nothing quite like being a doctor.
 
ProteinPowda, your posts just keep getting longer and longer. I love it. 🙂
 
ProteinPowda, your posts just keep getting longer and longer. I love it. 🙂

Poor ProteinPowda took down an energy drink aka No-XPlode at 7pm and went to the gym. I had two sets of keys in my pocket and left one in the car so that I wouldn't have two sets dragging down my workout pants so that one second I'd be doing squats and the next second my pants would be around my ankles making everyone in the gym whistle at my cute little gluteus maximus and minimus. Next thing you know I'm doing some incline abs and my keys and membership card fall out of my pocket. Guess which key set fell out? The wrong one! So apparently my keys and stuff are in the car. Along with my cell phone.
Luckily my friends live next door to the gym (which I joined b/c I too used to live across the street with them) and I borrowed a car to go and get the spare set...only to discover that my sister has the spare at her place.
So after trying to use a clothes hanger to get in and discovering that robotic surgery is not my calling...I'm back at home writing long posts on SDN.
We'll all have to post some pictures on here someday. Who knows...we might actually know each other.
 
Really there is nothing quite like being a doctor.

I posted before reading because the length was daunting. But honestly, great post... you'll be a great, caring doctor. You should go through all of your posts on here and start a blog.
 
I posted before reading because the length was daunting. But honestly, great post... you'll be a great, caring doctor. You should go through all of your posts on here and start a blog.

Thank you! Please forward that to the adcom 🙂
 
Person 2 likes wearing white coats (and even wears a stethoscope on first dates to see if he captured the other persons heart)

Hahahaha I love it!

And DAAAMMMMNNN man you captured some passion in that last post. If you put half of that into your personal statement and interviews I dunno why you don't have a nice little email in your inbox right now.

But alas there is not formula for this...

So I just thought about it and realized something.... Our odds are SOOOO much better than CA residents odds. I mean really 150 out of 550 or so who applied. And yet we get so frustrated... Haha the grass is always greener.
 
So it's March 3rd...one year ago today was the day UA released their acceptances. It was much less painful a year ago than it has been for the last three months.

That doesn't mean that we can't have hope. I still think the waitlist will go 40 or 50 deep this year, as it went over 50 two years ago under a similar rolling admissions process. I just wish the adcom would hurry up and get their stuff sent out. Waiting is almost as bad as the rejection itself.
 
Math - did you get a WL number last year? If not, did UA send the rejection letters at the same time as the WL letters or was there a delay in time?
 
No, I didn't even get waitlisted last year. I'm not surprised, as my application was very weak (practically no volunteering). The acceptances for both campuses came out on March 3rd, and the rejections and waitlists for both campuses came out March 12th.

I'm thinking maybe the waitlists will come out this Friday? Or at least maybe Tucson's will, as we know they have already been going over some alternates. I just wish Phoenix wasn't being so darn mysterious about everything.
 
I really hope it comes out this week. Next week is my spring break, and I'm going to be working at some clinics in the Dominican Republic, without data service on my phone... which means checking my email at internet cafes only. I really can't imagine only being able to check my email and SDN once or twice a day!

Besides, this wait has gone on long enough. I feel that I am a strong applicant and that I'll get a good waitlist rank, but this is med school admissions, and nothing is certain. If getting rejected this round is in my cards, I'd rather start strengthening my app ASAP.
 
UofA only considers people from Arizona, they are very strict about this (I had to appeal my domicile decision there, as did a lot of us.)

How did the appeals process work for you? How long did it take to hear back after the appeal? Were you accepted before your status was clarified? Would love some clarity on this issue.
 
i wonder how ua selects students, cus it is not numbers or exp/service... do the interviews matter a lot?
 
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